IndyPleco wrote:Some people may need protection from self-exploitation (which is kind of the vibe I get from these girls)
What self-exploitation?
They get payed really nice rates, especially performing both on same set.
IndyPleco wrote:Some people may need protection from self-exploitation (which is kind of the vibe I get from these girls)
Jimbo8012395 wrote:steverino1969 wrote:The Zee twins have already been filmed eating each others' pussies, sucking cocks straight from each others' pussies and asses, and have swapped sperm from mouth to mouth. I don't see what the big deal is.
Where?!?! Performing cunnilingus on your sister is illegal in many countries and you'll both be sent to prison. Doesn't matter that it's consenting. Filming that act is also illegal in many countries. Anyone who hosts this is fucking crazy.
The rest you talk about is a grey area.
dap-addict wrote:IndyPleco wrote:Some people may need protection from self-exploitation (which is kind of the vibe I get from these girls)
What self-exploitation?
They get payed really nice rates, especially performing both on same set.
grey00owl wrote:Have a look at some of Dellai's sisters or Chelsy Sun's and her mother's scenes and you'll see that LEGALPORNO has already offered this kind of contents that seem to appeal not few of consumers.
And all of them look like having fun.
I think this is the point: if adult peoples are willing to do it and also have fun, why not.
I think a porn forum is not the right place for moral lessons.
Jimbo8012395 wrote:
This is not a moral issue. It's a legal issue. Incest is illegal in many countries. In certain states in the US and in the Republic of Ireland, you can be jailed for life for it. The punishment is a custodial sentence in many developed countries.
To my knowledge, Legal Porno have never filmed 2 sisters performing oral on each other. If they have, they're insane and it's asking for trouble i.e. court orders, IP blocks in many countries etc.
Jimbo8012395 wrote:steverino1969 wrote:The Zee twins have already been filmed eating each others' pussies, sucking cocks straight from each others' pussies and asses, and have swapped sperm from mouth to mouth. I don't see what the big deal is.
Where?!?! Performing cunnilingus on your sister is illegal in many countries and you'll both be sent to prison. Doesn't matter that it's consenting. Filming that act is also illegal in many countries. Anyone who hosts this is fucking crazy.
The rest you talk about is a grey area.
steverino1969 wrote:They've done it for Woodman, and there didn't seem to be any problem. It was pretty hot, and that's the whole point of filming twins together.
Jimbo8012395 wrote:Giorgio, obviously some of these morons don't realise that incest and incest porn is illegal in most countries particularly in Europe. Anyone with a brain knows that Legalporno would be utterly insane to host incest on their servers.
Even if it wasn't illegal, it's fucked up. I have to say I'm not comfortable with watching anything with 2 family members in a scene even if there's no interaction.
Jimbo8012395 wrote:steverino1969 wrote:The Zee twins have already been filmed eating each others' pussies, sucking cocks straight from each others' pussies and asses, and have swapped sperm from mouth to mouth. I don't see what the big deal is.
Where?!?! Performing cunnilingus on your sister is illegal in many countries and you'll both be sent to prison. Doesn't matter that it's consenting. Filming that act is also illegal in many countries. Anyone who hosts this is fucking crazy.
The rest you talk about is a grey area.
Jimbo8012395 wrote:grey00owl wrote:Have a look at some of Dellai's sisters or Chelsy Sun's and her mother's scenes and you'll see that LEGALPORNO has already offered this kind of contents that seem to appeal not few of consumers.
And all of them look like having fun.
I think this is the point: if adult peoples are willing to do it and also have fun, why not.
I think a porn forum is not the right place for moral lessons.
This is not a moral issue. It's a legal issue. Incest is illegal in many countries. In certain states in the US and in the Republic of Ireland, you can be jailed for life for it. The punishment is a custodial sentence in many developed countries.
To my knowledge, Legal Porno have never filmed 2 sisters performing oral on each other. If they have, they're insane and it's asking for trouble i.e. court orders, IP blocks in many countries etc.
Caveman39 wrote:Grandi is right.
It is a choice (morally and legally) to choose what the director wants shoots. Here the discussion ends.
Aside from this,
Grey00owl is also right.
A porn forum is not the place to discuss peoples likings and certainly not the place to try to dominate/coerce/convince people in a supercilious manner that their fetishes/linking/wishes are wrong and that they are being "morons".
Caveman39 wrote:Jimbo8012395 wrote:Giorgio, obviously some of these morons don't realise that incest and incest porn is illegal in most countries particularly in Europe. Anyone with a brain knows that Legalporno would be utterly insane to host incest on their servers.
Even if it wasn't illegal, it's fucked up. I have to say I'm not comfortable with watching anything with 2 family members in a scene even if there's no interaction.Jimbo8012395 wrote:steverino1969 wrote:The Zee twins have already been filmed eating each others' pussies, sucking cocks straight from each others' pussies and asses, and have swapped sperm from mouth to mouth. I don't see what the big deal is.
Where?!?! Performing cunnilingus on your sister is illegal in many countries and you'll both be sent to prison. Doesn't matter that it's consenting. Filming that act is also illegal in many countries. Anyone who hosts this is fucking crazy.
The rest you talk about is a grey area.Jimbo8012395 wrote:grey00owl wrote:Have a look at some of Dellai's sisters or Chelsy Sun's and her mother's scenes and you'll see that LEGALPORNO has already offered this kind of contents that seem to appeal not few of consumers.
And all of them look like having fun.
I think this is the point: if adult peoples are willing to do it and also have fun, why not.
I think a porn forum is not the right place for moral lessons.
This is not a moral issue. It's a legal issue. Incest is illegal in many countries. In certain states in the US and in the Republic of Ireland, you can be jailed for life for it. The punishment is a custodial sentence in many developed countries.
To my knowledge, Legal Porno have never filmed 2 sisters performing oral on each other. If they have, they're insane and it's asking for trouble i.e. court orders, IP blocks in many countries etc.
Grandi is right.
It is a choice (morally and legally) to choose what the director wants shoots. Here the discussion ends.
Aside from this,
Grey00owl is also right.
A porn forum is not the place to discuss peoples likings and certainly not the place to try to dominate/coerce/convince people in a supercilious manner that their fetishes/linking/wishes are wrong and that they are being "morons".
About one thing you can give Woodman the props.
He knows that it is a fantasy of a lot (I would say the majority of men) to have sex with (twin) sisters or with a mom/daughter tag team.
He knows. He shoots. He uploads. People spend tickets.
There have been so many sister tag teams in the past, recently, the Dellai twins who just love each other's pussy juice and urine (as evidenced on cam a couple of times).
Nobody has been arrested.
Jimbo8012395,
get of your fucking horse, you butt-kissing guy.
If you care so much you are morally obligated to act (and not only bitch about it on a forum that only few will read: NOTHING will change).
Don't you feel you have a goddamn moral duty and make a citizen's arrest or alert the authorities to report an incest crime?
Here's the proof.
Report or shut the fuck up.
Also to those people who don't find them that attractive and bitch about it or complain that they are not in the Dellai league in terms of looks. What the fuck are you doing in this thread?
If you have a Volkswagen, do you also go to the showroom of Toyota or Opel only to say/complain to the sales person that the cars they sell do not look that attractive as the ones of Volkswagen? Get the fuck out of here.
I can only say.
BRAVO ZEE TWINS. I think they are a cute fresh 18 y/o sis team.
IndyPleco wrote:steverino1969 wrote:They've done it for Woodman, and there didn't seem to be any problem. It was pretty hot, and that's the whole point of filming twins together.
That was a different country though (although illegal in both). Chances are any litigator is much more likely to go after a bigger fish like LP, and the giant attached to it, than a small independent producer like PW. I don’t disagree with the kink but they have to weigh the risk.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:I say it once and for all:
- I wont shoot interaction between sisters, twins, mother/daughter or whatever interaction with people related to each other by direct family bond.
- My decision It is not going to change
Jimbo8012395 wrote:IndyPleco wrote:steverino1969 wrote:They've done it for Woodman, and there didn't seem to be any problem. It was pretty hot, and that's the whole point of filming twins together.
That was a different country though (although illegal in both). Chances are any litigator is much more likely to go after a bigger fish like LP, and the giant attached to it, than a small independent producer like PW. I don’t disagree with the kink but they have to weigh the risk.
Finally someone with a functioning brain in this thread. I guarantee that it's a matter of time before there are court orders to block Woodman's site in multiple jurisdictions if he keeps this up. It's an inevitability. That's why Legal Porno and Grandi would never have related people perform fellatio on each other.
If I was Woodman, I also wouldn't travel to the United States now that he's filmed incestuous scenes especially if they're available for stream/download in the US.
sputnik2000 wrote:Giorgio Grandi wrote:I say it once and for all:
- I wont shoot interaction between sisters, twins, mother/daughter or whatever interaction with people related to each other by direct family bond.
- My decision It is not going to change
I guess this explains why the Vera Delight / Chelsy Sun scene has been deleted. For those that didn't buy it at the time, it featured a mother (Vera) and her daughter in a gangbang scene with DAP etc. The women interacted throughout: fucking each other with dildos, sucking cocks directly from each other's assholes, licking the same cock together etc. Also, the male talent encouraged the incest scenario saying things like "Put it in the mother's mouth".
At the time, I wondered if it was fake incest as some porn companies promote two-girl scenes as being 'sisters' when they are not. I guess it was genuine after all.
This is Chelsy and Vera from before the action started:
[...]
Jimbo8012395 wrote:Caveman39 - You wouldn't dare speak to me in such an aggressive manner if you weren't behind a computer screen. You're a pathetic internet tough guy/keyboard warrior.
Jimbo8012395 wrote:With regards to being a butt kissing guy, I'm not. I'm merely pointing out that incest is ILLEGAL in many countries. It is ILLEGAL to participate in and it's ILLEGAL to film it.
Jimbo8012395 wrote:I work in the legal profession so know a billion times more about this than you. Now if a porn producer/studio wants to film this content, it's up to them. However, it's a legal risk, will result in their sites being blocked in many countries and they'll likely lose a lot of their payment processors. It'd utterly kill their revenue stream and Woodman is crazy to be doing this. Really crazy.
Jimbo8012395 wrote:As for the morality of it, I've no issues with other people watching it if that's their kink but I've no interest in watching 2 related people perform sex acts on each other. It's depraved.
Jimbo8012395 wrote:Caveman39 - Oh my god, you are by far the most pathetic, puerile, deranged person I've ever encountered on the internet.
Seriously, don't you have anything better to do with your time?! You really need help.
You keep cry wanking yourself to sleep watching 2 teenage sisters (at least half your age) licking each other out, both utterly repulsed by what they're doing. I'd rather not watch that tbh.
I know that if Woodman keeps doing this, he's going to be in a lot of trouble some day. You would if you had a brain...any brain at all. Pornographers have been jailed for far less.
Caveman39 wrote:First he dreams of being an important lawyer who knows a billion more stuff about the law, now he dreams of being a renowned psychologist. You seem to know so much about strangers, it's just mind-boggling. Cut it with all of your dumb assumptions. PICK UP THE PHONE AND REPORT THE ILLEGAL CRIME OF INCEST AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN OR SHUT THE FUCK UP you pathetic morally superior prick.
IndyPleco wrote:sputnik2000 wrote:Giorgio Grandi wrote:I say it once and for all:
- I wont shoot interaction between sisters, twins, mother/daughter or whatever interaction with people related to each other by direct family bond.
- My decision It is not going to change
I guess this explains why the Vera Delight / Chelsy Sun scene has been deleted. For those that didn't buy it at the time, it featured a mother (Vera) and her daughter in a gangbang scene with DAP etc. The women interacted throughout: fucking each other with dildos, sucking cocks directly from each other's assholes, licking the same cock together etc. Also, the male talent encouraged the incest scenario saying things like "Put it in the mother's mouth".
At the time, I wondered if it was fake incest as some porn companies promote two-girl scenes as being 'sisters' when they are not. I guess it was genuine after all.
This is Chelsy and Vera from before the action started:
[...]
It's still there but it's hidden from the models pages. Maybe the ability to see it also depends on where you're located (it's legal where I am), like how Americans can't see piss scenes.
sputnik2000 wrote:That's very interesting. I'm in the UK and I can't see it. I can see Vera Delight's model page and it says 0 scenes.
Jimbo8012395 wrote:Caveman39 - You wouldn't dare speak to me in such an aggressive manner if you weren't behind a computer screen. You're a pathetic internet tough guy/keyboard warrior.
With regards to being a butt kissing guy, I'm not. I'm merely pointing out that incest is ILLEGAL in many countries. It is ILLEGAL to participate in and it's ILLEGAL to film it.
I work in the legal profession so know a billion times more about this than you. Now if a porn producer/studio wants to film this content, it's up to them. However, it's a legal risk, will result in their sites being blocked in many countries and they'll likely lose a lot of their payment processors. It'd utterly kill their revenue stream and Woodman is crazy to be doing this. Really crazy.
As for the morality of it, I've no issues with other people watching it if that's their kink but I've no interest in watching 2 related people perform sex acts on each other. It's depraved.
grey00owl wrote:Jimbo8012395 wrote:Caveman39 - You wouldn't dare speak to me in such an aggressive manner if you weren't behind a computer screen. You're a pathetic internet tough guy/keyboard warrior.
With regards to being a butt kissing guy, I'm not. I'm merely pointing out that incest is ILLEGAL in many countries. It is ILLEGAL to participate in and it's ILLEGAL to film it.
I work in the legal profession so know a billion times more about this than you. Now if a porn producer/studio wants to film this content, it's up to them. However, it's a legal risk, will result in their sites being blocked in many countries and they'll likely lose a lot of their payment processors. It'd utterly kill their revenue stream and Woodman is crazy to be doing this. Really crazy.
As for the morality of it, I've no issues with other people watching it if that's their kink but I've no interest in watching 2 related people perform sex acts on each other. It's depraved.
You first offend other members calling them morons and then you feel hurt and wonder why someone reacts like Caveman39. Reflect about it and think twice before writing something offesive!
IndyPleco wrote:sputnik2000 wrote:That's very interesting. I'm in the UK and I can't see it. I can see Vera Delight's model page and it says 0 scenes.
It does for me too but can you see the direct link?
https://pornbox.com/application#watch-page/29100
dap-addict wrote:Minority here, I know:
Can sb having bought both parts already please comment in their DAP-ability?!
I gather both DAPs are pretty short.
Sir Noel wrote:This thread has gotten a bit out of hand.
Bottom line: Giorgio has very strong black and white views about what is acceptable and what is not. Some things, like anal that isn't 100% clean (as it often isn't in everyday life) he not only dislikes but condemns anyone who does whilst other things, like a woman pushing her bowels put of her asshole or drinking a whole glass of urine he has no issue with and films every week. It may make no sense to you (or me) but that is how it is. It seems that adult sisters consenting to mild sexual interaction pushes his moral distaste buttons and so you may as well accept it and move on. Count yourself lucky Giorgio isn't disgusted at the idea of a woman watching her sister fuck otherwise he would have put a privacy blind down the middle of the set!
I never even watched these trailers until I read the discussion here because I knew what to expect, namely a two girl scene but without any of the things that are good about two girl scenes.
If you want to watch sisters with more interaction (or as here, ANY interaction) watch Woodman, Private (Dellai twins), 21 Sextury (Foxx twins) but this is one of those areas where LP is actually one of the softest sites.
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