Jon Jon

[Tastes Like Ass]

I don't think that penis size should be the main factor when choosing male performers. It obviously matters, but there are other factors that are much more important, such as the ability to easily get and maintain erections, and paying proper attention to body positioning and camera angles. Also, a good male performer should fuck the girls in an aggressive and nasty style, and should avoid calling unnecessary attention to himself, in order to keep the focus on the girls and the sex.

All these things are more important than penis size. If a guy can do all these things and also has a huge cock, that's a bonus. But the idea that having a huge cock is either necessary or sufficient is how we got stuck with guys like Charlie Mac.

[WorldComingDown]

Prince Yahshua against Sandra Luberc and Linda Sweet.What do you think?

[wason]

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[wason]

I don't think that penis size should be the main factor when choosing male performers. It obviously matters, but there are other factors that are much more important, such as the ability to easily get and maintain erections, and paying proper attention to body positioning and camera angles. Also, a good male performer should fuck the girls in an aggressive and nasty style, and should avoid calling unnecessary attention to himself, in order to keep the focus on the girls and the sex.

All these things are more important than penis size. If a guy can do all these things and also has a huge cock, that's a bonus. But the idea that having a huge cock is either necessary or sufficient is how we got stuck with guys like Charlie Mac.

You obviously misunderstand key points: No one ever stated that size was the only main factor (in fact previously, I was the one who originally commented on Jon Jon's lack of performing ability, despite his size). However, if you don't believe size is an absolutely necessary factor, in a high quality Sineplex production, you are sorely mistaken.

To re-iterate: There is no question that size is one of the main factors, and just as important as performance. If your goal is to produce mediocre or slightly above average scenes (or if you don't have the ability to hire better talent), of course feel free to prioritize one over the other. However, again as I mentioned, Sineplex already has the best girls, there is no reason to bring back guys like Vinny or Angelo, who are mediocre in either the size or performance department, when there are guys who are better, in both categories(eg: Jamaica, Ed Junior, Nacho, Clay, Bazuca, Joss, Eric, and perhaps some other new guys)

[Tastes Like Ass]

To re-iterate: There is no question that size is one of the main factors, and just as important as performance. If your goal is to produce mediocre or slightly above average scenes (or if you don't have the ability to hire better talent), of course feel free to prioritize one over the other. However, again as I mentioned, Sineplex already has the best girls, there is no reason to bring back guys like Vinny or Angelo, who are mediocre in either the size or performance department, when there are guys who are better, in both categories(eg: Jamaica, Ed Junior, Nacho, Clay, Bazuca, Joss, Eric, and perhaps some other new guys)

No, I disagree. Size is definitely not as important as performance. I have seen plenty of great scenes with guys who have fairly small cocks (at least by porn standards). However, I have never seen a great scene where the guy kept going limp, or where the guy kept trying to make himself the center of attention, etc.

Furthermore, not all the guys you name are consistently good performers. The last two guys (Joss and Eric) both have a reputation for wood problems, while Nacho is about as bad a performer as I can think of, as he usually ruins the scene with goofy stunts and often fucks the girls in positions that are not camera-friendly (it doesn't matter how big your cock is or how hard you fuck the girls; if the camera can't see it, it might as well not be happening).

The fact is that it's very tough to find guys who have huge cocks and are capable of delivering consistently great performances. Of course, LP should use those rare guys as often as possible, but if they aren't available, and it comes down to a choice between size and performance, they should go with performance. Period.

[wason]

To re-iterate: There is no question that size is one of the main factors, and just as important as performance. If your goal is to produce mediocre or slightly above average scenes (or if you don't have the ability to hire better talent), of course feel free to prioritize one over the other. However, again as I mentioned, Sineplex already has the best girls, there is no reason to bring back guys like Vinny or Angelo, who are mediocre in either the size or performance department, when there are guys who are better, in both categories(eg: Jamaica, Ed Junior, Nacho, Clay, Bazuca, Joss, Eric, and perhaps some other new guys)

No, I disagree. Size is definitely not as important as performance. I have seen plenty of great scenes with guys who have fairly small cocks (at least by porn standards). However, I have never seen a great scene where the guy kept going limp, or where the guy kept trying to make himself the center of attention, etc.

Furthermore, not all the guys you name are consistently good performers. The last two guys (Joss and Eric) both have a reputation for wood problems, while Nacho is about as bad a performer as I can think of, as he usually ruins the scene with goofy stunts and often fucks the girls in positions that are not camera-friendly (it doesn't matter how big your cock is or how hard you fuck the girls; if the camera can't see it, it might as well not be happening).

The fact is that it's very tough to find guys who have huge cocks and are capable of delivering consistently great performances. Of course, LP should use those rare guys as often as possible, but if they aren't available, and it comes down to a choice between size and performance, they should go with performance. Period.

Sineplex is one of the premier companies now. It should not be a problem to find sufficient number guys who are have both size and performance. In the 2011 era, essentially every scene featured top male(essentially Junior, Jamaica, Carlos,)/female performers, and the scenes were the best ever. The current scenes will not be even close to that level, if Sineplex does not feature guys with size and performance. Again, this is in no way a logistic impossibility for Sineplex. (in fact they are getting closer with the current group of guys, getting back guys like e.g. Junior/Jamaica/Bazuca, would be optimal, and getting rid of mediocre guys like Vinny and Angelo)

I have never seen a "great" scene with a guy lacking in size- it will be mediocre/slightly above average, at best. If they have to compromise either size or performance, the scene quality will suffer hugely in either case. The goal of Sineplex is not to compromise and produce mediocre scenes, the goal is to produce the best scenes (imminently possible)(best girls, best guys, best action/direction). Period.

The guys mentioned have generally been very good performers, with both attributes, and they should do well with Sineplex. Of course if there are sufficient issues with any performer, changes can be always be made. (Also, The search for better performers is apparently ongoing. Best would be getting back the Brazilians though.)

Nacho is one of the best possible hires Sineplex could have made - he has good size, and overall performance ability has been consistently very good - all aspects considered. Excellent choice.

[gousselle]

Is Jon Jon finally done working for LP or is he still doing scenes?

One more question I have: why did LP hire Jon Jon in the first place? He doesn't even live in Europe (he's from U.S.) and there is nothing great about him as a performer so why would LP hire him and put him in so many fucking scenes?

he worked with Private so he probably has industry connections.

[realtip]

Just when we thought that we were rid of this guy, he starts showing up again in the latest scenes. I'm really hoping that these are old scenes that they're just now releasing, and that they haven't gone and brought this guy back again.

[utopiaa]

Have you watched the newest scenes? He has improved imo and is not scared to touch the girls anymore and he goes balls deep.

[realtip]

Have you watched the newest scenes? He has improved imo and is not scared to touch the girls anymore and he goes balls deep.

But is he qualified to be LP material? Absolutely not. I like all the rest of the guys that LP uses. But Jon Jon just does not belong on this site. He is nowhere close to the being on the same level as the rest of the LP guys.

[Pineapples Studio]

Have you actually watched the new scenes or are you just saying that?

[random!]

Prince would probably break his dick again if he joins LP.

[realtip]

Have you actually watched the new scenes or are you just saying that?

No, I have not. I'll probably get around to seeing them eventually, but these scenes aren't free, and I don't see why I should waste tickets on scenes that I know I probably won't like. That wouldn't make sense, just as it doesn't make sense to keep bringing this one guy all the way from the U.S. when there are plenty of other much better guys right there that they can use.

Speaking of which, does anyone find it strange that he's the only American male performer on LP? Of all the American male performers that they could import, they choose him? Why!? I would think that if they were going to fly someone all the way over from the U.S., then it would at least be someone better than Jon Jon. And No, not Prince either.

[Slippery Pete]

^ I know how you feel. There's a scene with Blanche Bradburry & Billie Starr that I still haven't been able to convince myself of buying simply because both Jon Jon AND Charlie Mac are in it. Double whammy.

[magizi877]

if Blanche Bradburry alone can't convince you to buy it, go to a hospital immediately because there is something wrong with you :P

[Pineapples Studio]

Speaking of which, does anyone find it strange that he's the only American male performer on LP? Of all the American male performers that they could import, they choose him? Why!? I would think that if they were going to fly someone all the way over from the U.S., then it would at least be someone better than Jon Jon. And No, not Prince either.

No. I don't find that strange. I still don't understand your obsession with the performers' nationalities. It's really not that important where they're from.

[realtip]

There are some male performers that are so bad (this includes Jon Jon unfortunately) even if the girl is super-hot I can't enjoy the scene.

I agree 100%. This is what irritates me so much about casting Jon Jon. It's not just the fact that he's in so many scenes, but he's in so many scenes with the girls I like the most, which really pisses me off. Sure, I download some of them anyway if it's a girl I really want to see. But even then, I still have to tolerate seeing this annoying guy in the scene.

For example, take the new Mya Diamond scene. This girl is absolutely hot. Before this new scene came out, she only had two scenes on the site. One is a lesbian scene, so that doesn't count. The other is an old scene which, while good, was not shot in the new LP hardcore style. So when LP finally released a new scene with her, I was excited. That was until I saw that Jon Jon is in it, and just ruined the whole thing for me. Now I can't even watch it because I know I won't enjoy it. Another scene with a hot girl wasted.

Of all the guys on LP that they can put in these scenes, why would they choose the worst one on here? They could have put Clay in the scene. They could have put Mike in the scene. They could have put Vinny, or Neo, or Ian, or Markus, or Chris, or Tony, or Lance in the scene. But out of all these guys, they choose Jon Jon. WTF!? I just want to know who this casting person is at LP that says, "Hey, let's take the worst male performer on the site, and put him in tons of scenes with the hottest girls." Whoever that person is making those decisions, I just want to say, Please Stop It! You have a lot of good male performers on here that most of us like. Stop ruining scenes with hot girls by putting Jon Jon in them.

Speaking of which, does anyone find it strange that he's the only American male performer on LP? Of all the American male performers that they could import, they choose him? Why!? I would think that if they were going to fly someone all the way over from the U.S., then it would at least be someone better than Jon Jon. And No, not Prince either.

No. I don't find that strange. I still don't understand your obsession with the performers' nationalities. It's really not that important where they're from.

Nobody said it was important. I said it was strange. This is a company that shoots in Europe, and where pretty much all of the performers are European (or non-American). Yet, there is this one American male performer who is cast to be in a large number of scenes, and an unpopular performer at that. If this was a site that regularly brings over a lot of American male performers to shoot them, then it would not be strange. If this was a site that shot in the U.S., then it would not be strange. But for a site based in Europe with non-American performers to go through the trouble of flying over one, and only one, male performer to be in so many scenes is indeed strange. It wouldn't even be strange if he were at least a good or popular performer. At least then I could understand because his talent would explain it. But to import one bad, unpopular performer all the way from the U.S. for no reason is strange, especially when all the other guys that are already there are much better. That's not being obsessed. That's just normal curiosity. I think you're just oblivious.

[magizi877]

Maybe you haters can elaborate what you don't like about Jon Jon or other performers?

"because I don't"

Its not good enough.

[realtip]

Maybe you haters can elaborate what you don't like about Jon Jon or other performers?

One thing I do hate is the way people now throw words around so senselessly that they lose their meaning. So in that sense, maybe I am a "hater."

[eknbb2]

Maybe you haters can elaborate what you don't like about Jon Jon or other performers?

"because I don't"

Its not good enough.

The main points of criticism used to be:

His 'tender lovemaking', his gentle way of touching the chicks, his apparent insecurity/shyness or whatever you'd call it, the fact that he's seemingly worried that he might do anything the girls could possibly be uncomfortable with....the guys should try to deliver the best possible performance with maximum camera awareness instead of worrying about eventually hurting the girls feelings. Mike Angelo is the perfect example of a male performer that knows how to touch the ladies and push their boundaries.

....Jon Jon has improved though....I think

[crema]

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By the looks of the recent Maria Fiori trailer at least he's gotten rid of the red bandana around his thigh.

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[Pineapples Studio]

It's pretty easy to do this yourself. Just check the SZ number of the scenes.

In this case, they brought him back for new scenes.

[realtip]

In this case, they brought him back for new scenes.

I have no idea why in the world they would do that. Terrible decision.

[realtip]

New Bella Diamond scene RUINED by Jon Jon, I can't download it now. Couldn't LP have used Tony Brooklyn or someone else? Nope they used Jon Jon

Yes, and add the new Julie Skyhigh scene to the list of ruined scenes too.

I have been wanting LP to produce more scenes with girls that I actually find attractive. And when they finally do, they go make them unwatchable for me by shooting these girls with the one guy on here that I just can't stand. The only reason for this that I can think of is that Jon Jon must have friends at LP who are determined to shoot him no matter how many of the members complain about him. If he does, that's fine. But I don't see why they have to let their friendship with this guy get in the way of producing quality scenes.

They finally get some girls on here that I like, and I still can't enjoy them because, out of all the other guys they could use, they just HAVE to keep throwing Jon Jon in the scenes. I don't know who's making these decisions at LP, but it's really fucking irritating!

[Symbalar]

Yeah I don´t like Jon Jon, but if he coud make his poundings a little faster, with more intensity,should be okey.

[eknbb2]

Yeah I don´t like Jon Jon, but if he coud make his poundings a little faster, with more intensity,should be okey.

-> http://legalporno.com/watch/28477/jilie_skyhigh_3_on_1_dp_gapes/screenshots#screenshots decent performance....

[realtip]

Yeah I don´t like Jon Jon, but if he coud make his poundings a little faster, with more intensity,should be okey.

But he's not "OK," and he shouldn't keep getting chances to be "OK" when he's not. Even if he were "OK," that's still not good enough when there are guys on here who are way better than just "OK."

LP has outstanding male performers. In fact, mostly all of them are. The only one I can think of who sucks is Jon Jon. Yet, for some reason, they keep bringing this guy back for more and more scenes when they could easily be using any of their other better male talent. In the process, they are making the scenes unwatchable for me and, going by this thread, a lot of other viewers.

Why the fuck doesn't LP just get rid of this guy and let his stay gone? Why the fuck do they keep bringing him back? I also feel like the more we complain about him, the more LP is determined to use him, which just agitates the shit out of me and makes me not even want to deal with this site anymore. After all, between using girls that I find unattractive, and using Jon Jon in most of the scenes with girls that I do find attractive, the scenes have lately been a waste for me anyway.

[SEMU]

Yeah I don´t like Jon Jon, but if he coud make his poundings a little faster, with more intensity,should be okey.

+10000

[realtip]

And now he's in the new Nomi Melone scene. I'm in such a huge fit of rage with LP right now.

LP, you have Clay. You have Mike Angelo. You have Ian, and Marcus, and Tony Brooklyn, and Vinny, and Neo, and that new guy named Juan. All of these guys are good performers. So can someone at LP just please answer me this one question: WHY THE FUCK DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO KEEP USING JON JON?

I just want someone to please explain this, because it makes absolutely no fucking sense to me, and I am convinced that you just don't give a fuck that a lot of us would prefer not to keep seeing this guy.

[magizi877]

This guy complaining about Jon Jon is getting irritating. IMO Jon is doing good. Besides LP needs to get more black dudes instead of getting rid of them.

[realtip]

Agree with all the guys you mention except for Marcus. His dick is way too small to be fucking girls up the ass in hardcore LP scenes.

LP should get rid of Marcus just as quickly as Jon Jon.

I disagree. You don't need to have a humongous dick to be a good performer. Marcus may not be as big down below as the other guys, but he's still a good hardcore performer. Case in point, Jon Jon is bigger than Marcus, but he still sucks.

This guy complaining about Jon Jon is getting irritating. IMO Jon is doing good. Besides LP needs to get more black dudes instead of getting rid of them.

I see. So you think LP should keep Jon Jon around just because he's black?

Also, in case you haven't been paying attention, I am not at all the only person complaining about him. There were quite a few people here complaining about him before I even posted. So you must be irritated with a whole lot of other people too. And no matter how irritated you are, your irritation cannot possibly compare to my irritation at not being able to watch scenes with girls I like because LP wants to keep putting this guy in all the damn scenes.

I have no idea what the guys at LP see in this guy that the rest of us don't other than, as you said, he's black. Now that you mention it, could that possibly be the only reason that they keep using him? It's certainly not because of his performances.

[utopiaa]

He is better than when he first started on LP and the girls seem to like him, so why not keep him around?

[Shotgun00]

I honestly laughed at the get rid of him because he's ugly. Personally I don't give a shit what the guy looks like if he's got his cock up the girls ass since I don't spend too much time looking at his face, but getting rid of all the ugly male pornstars kind of gets rid of half of them.

[kuyo123]

I agree as well, I really dislike Jon Jon as a performer. There are better BBC out there to use than Jon Jon, how about getting Ed Junior back like promised? Only saw him in a few first gape scenes but never back in any of the LP made vids.

[crema]

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Just a few points...

(1) Jon Jon is much better than when he started.
(2) There is a significant shortage of dark black guys on the site. I don't even think of Ed Junior as "light black", so he's no real substitute. Even Jamaica wouldn't be.
(3) The girls do seem to like him, and that always makes for better scenes.
(4) He's gotten rid of the stupid leg bandanas.

So, keep him until you get some high-energy dark BBC (which is rare). And if he improves even more, keep him either way.

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[cyberhog59]

You can debate this all you want. I am not going to buy any scenes with this guy in them. Sandra Luberc and Olga Barz could be in them and I would not be in the least bit tempted. Okay, maybe.

[Pineapples Studio]

Um... Maybe because they're great performers?

Sigh.

[dpconnoisseur1]

Besides Jon Jon being a crappy performer he is also very ugly, don't forget about that. His face looks like a rat or something, lol.

Wow, I disagree that he is a crappy performer and dude your watching these scenes for a different reason than I watch them if one of the reason is because the male performer is ugly! Here is my reason:
(1) No wood issues -- PASS
(2) large cock (so that it is easier to see the model being fucked) -- PASS
(3) fucks with intensity -- PASS
*** all other stuff (lighting, angles, positioning, etc) its up to the director, unless we think even a caveman can direct!!! ***

I THINK if we ask Jessyka Swan in this scene if Jon Jon did a good job railing her ass she would say "Hell yeah, I though he was going to break me!" There are many more instances of this if the guys complaining that he is not a good performer and will never buy a scene with him actually watched them and not the trailer! Also by instances I mean by the model giving him a mean look to slow down, digging her hand into his ankle, pushing him away or someone signaling him with gesture or voice to slow down!

Opinions are like assholes, we all have one! Here is mine, IMHO there are about 3 or 4 excellent male performers on LP roster Ian Scott, Jon Jon, Tony Brooklyn and Cristian Clay in no particular order and I think Jon Jon is within the TOP 3 at worst case!

[wason]

Jon Jon always had good size, however his initial problem(with LP and otherwise) was that he had essentially zero intensity, and just did shallow tip fucking. At this point I thought he was one of the worst ever, and unwatchable (and based on how long he had been performing already, I did not see this changing).

That being said, based on his most recent trailers, he has drastically improved both his intensity and method, to the point that he is one of the best current male performers on LP(although not as good as guys like Jamaica, Junior, Bazuca). If he keeps this level of performance or improves even more, put him in more scenes.

edit: on the other hand, Vinny still doesn't really cut it. He is mediocre in both size and performance. Boring performer. Doesn't fit to the Sineplex standard.

[realtip]

He is better than when he first started on LP and the girls seem to like him, so why not keep him around?

Saying that he was "better than when he first started" doesn't mean that he's good. If a student in school used to fail all his classes, but is now getting all C and D grades, that's an improvement, but still not as good students who are getting all A and B grades. LP has guys on here that are all grade-A guys. Yet, they keep throwing this D-grade guy in all the scenes, and he's making the scenes worse than they would be without him. That's why they shouldn't keep him around.

Personally I don't give a shit what the guy looks like if he's got his cock up the girls ass since I don't spend too much time looking at his face, but getting rid of all the ugly male pornstars kind of gets rid of half of them.

This whole attitude that the guy is not important is a big reason why so much porn sucks now. The guys in the scene are just as important as the girls. Part of the reason I like LP is because they do have quality guys who can deliver hard scenes. Jon Jon is the one exception. If they would just stop using him, that would be a huge improvement for the site.

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Just a few points...

(1) Jon Jon is much better than when he started.
(2) There is a significant shortage of dark black guys on the site. I don't even think of Ed Junior as "light black", so he's no real substitute. Even Jamaica wouldn't be.
(3) The girls do seem to like him, and that always makes for better scenes.
(4) He's gotten rid of the stupid leg bandanas.

So, keep him until you get some high-energy dark BBC (which is rare). And if he improves even more, keep him either way.

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(1) Again, being better than before doesn't mean he's good. He still sucks compared to the other guys LP could be using in those scenes.
(2) What the fuck does race have to do with this? Who gives a fuck what color he is? The guy sucks. The whole idea that he should be allowed to keep ruining scenes just because he's black is not only idiotic, but also racist.
(3) The girls will perform with whoever they're hired to performed with. They work with him because LP keeps booking him for the scenes, not because they like him.
(4) The bandanas were stupid, but that was only part of the problem with him. The main problem is that he just doesn't belong on LP because he's not a good enough performer for the site. It pisses me off that LP keeps using him.

And again, you're saying that LP should keep him just because he's black, not because he's good. What is this fetish that some white guys have for watching black guys? Do the guys making these decisions at LP share this same fetish? That's the only explanantion I can think of for why they keep using this guy. I'm tired of not being able to watch scenes with girls I like just because some of you guys can't let go of your racist Mandingo fantasies.

You can debate this all you want. I am not going to buy any scenes with this guy in them. Sandra Luberc and Olga Barz could be in them and I would not be in the least bit tempted. Okay, maybe.

I agree. I don't buy any scenes with him in them either. Unfortunately, this means that I'm missing a lot of scenes that I would otherwise watch. For example, I really like Mya Diamond. But I haven't downloaded either of her last two new scenes because Jon Jon is in both of them. I have absolutely no fucking idea why LP felt the need to put him in either of the scenes, let alone both. But it really irrritates me that she's a girl I like, but LP decided to fuck up both her scenes by booking the worst guy on here to be in them.

I could never understand why porn companies like LP and others use light-skinned "black" guys like Jamaica (who really isn't that black).

Aren't there enough genuine dark-skinned BLACK performers out there to do the job like Joachim Kessef or Wesley Nike or Michael Chapman?

I could never understand why anybody gives a fuck about complexion. I like guys like Jamaica, Joachim, Wesley, and Tony Brooklyn because they're great performers, not because they're black. I dislike Jon Jon as a performer because he sucks, not because he's black. If a guy is good, then he's good. If he sucks, then he sucks. Anyone who thinks that a guy should keep a job just because of his complexion really needs to join the 21st-century with the rest of us.

being said, based on his most recent trailers, he has drastically improved both his intensity and method, to the point that he is one of the best current male performers on LP(although not as good as guys like Jamaica, Junior, Bazuca). If he keeps this level of performance or improves even more, put him in more scenes.

Did you just call Jon Jon "one of the best current male performers on LP?" Really? You just said that? That just has to be a joke, as you can't possibly be serious. This guy is the worst male performer on the site, not just currently, but ever.