There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

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There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby Chimpy.677 » Fri Dec 06, 2024 3:02 am

I don't know if you've noticed, but nowadays it seems like there are no new BWC and BBC actors anymore, most of them are already veteran actors and the new famous or relatively famous actors are, I would say, average actors.
Before you had dozens of male BWC and BBC actors who made the scenes great, for example:


Ian Scott.
Steve Holmes.
Omar Galanti.
Mandingo.
Kid Jamaica.
Christian Clay.
Chris Diamond.
etc.


I say this, because the male actors are as important as the female model in the scenes, especially when we're talking about scenes that we all like here.

Still, I don't know why it is, but there are almost no iconic and charismatic male actors left who are BWC or BBC.

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Re: There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby isis666xxx » Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:55 pm

Chimpy.677 wrote:I say this, because the male actors are as important as the female model in the scenes


you are dellusional

male actors as important as the female actress???? HAHAHAH

dont make me laugh

you probably have bisexual urges thats why you care so much about male actors
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Re: There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby Chimpy.677 » Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:25 am

isis666xxx wrote:
Chimpy.677 wrote:I say this, because the male actors are as important as the female model in the scenes


you are dellusional

male actors as important as the female actress???? HAHAHAH

dont make me laugh

you probably have bisexual urges thats why you care so much about male actors


I'm 100% heterosexual, if I were bisexual or homosexual I would say so, I wouldn't have a problem.
The thing is that at first I never gave importance to male actors, then with time I realized that for a scene to be good, it was necessary for the actors to be well endowed and have a lot of energy, because I got tired of seeing scenes with beautiful female models with actors with average penises and practically no desire to fuck, they literally destroyed the scene.
That's why I say what I said in the post, you can have a beautiful woman but if she's not well accompanied by high quality male actors, the scene is going to be bad.

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Re: There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby Oscar Batty » Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:55 am

isis666xxx wrote:you are dellusional

male actors as important as the female actress???? HAHAHAH


I think you do not know what you are talking about. Have you ever been in a professional porn set. Without professional male actors you won't have any scene like you have on this site period.
Good male actors are VERY important.

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Re: There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby isis666xxx » Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:23 am

Oscar Batty wrote:
isis666xxx wrote:you are dellusional

male actors as important as the female actress???? HAHAHAH


I think you do not know what you are talking about. Have you ever been in a professional porn set. Without professional male actors you won't have any scene like you have on this site period.
Good male actors are VERY important.


ive seen several tens of thousands of porn videos across 20 years, so i have a lot of experience watching porn

dont make me laugh if you think the males are as important as the females seriously

the most important part of a porn video is how hot the girl is and what she does

the male actors are quite secondary

you think you as a porn actor can compare yourself in importance to the female actress???? HAHAH
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Re: There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby isis666xxx » Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:40 am

also im personally bisexual and i dont care much about the male actor, as long as he fucks good and he has a nice cock is enough
the most important is how hot the girl is and what she does

these male actors who think they can be as important as the girl, dont make me laugh, shes the base and the core of the scene

a bukkake for example is extremely high quality porn and can be done with peasant-male actors without experience
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Re: There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby isis666xxx » Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:09 am

Chimpy.677 wrote:I'm 100% heterosexual


i was 100% heterosexual too years ago and i was in denial

caring so much about the male actor and about their penises is suspicious


you put a ugly fat girl getting fucked by a perfect male actor with a giant cock, and the porn video is gonna be shit

you put a very hot girl getting fucked by a old fat guy with a normal size cock and the porn video is gonna be great
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Re: There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby dap-addict » Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:44 am

isis666xxx wrote:
Chimpy.677 wrote:I say this, because the male actors are as important as the female model in the scenes


you are dellusional

male actors as important as the female actress???? HAHAHAH

Why quarrel instead of answering OP?
Also why we dont try to find new male actors our fave LP studios scouted?

For instance there is that local Romanian stud EKS employs in Bukarest Gabe Delight. He starred in about 30 films so far standing around and sometimes getting sucked, but most recently he started to fuck also: https://pornbox.com/application/model/241031

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Re: There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby hyapet » Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:31 am

Oscar Batty wrote: I think you do not know what you are talking about. Have you ever been in a professional porn set. Without professional male actors you won't have any scene like you have on this site period.
Good male actors are VERY important.


The truth goes beyond even this.

It goes to the actual chemistry between everyone on set. The more people you have - the harder it is to correlate a feeling amongst everyone - the harder it is to give the scene a sense of narration.

There's a reason everyone in a gangbang acts like small children. There's an Alpha male (usually Mike Chapman) and then everyone else just dutifully follows right behind and does what they're told. But, even so ...

It's difficult for everyone to sync into the same feeling the scene has - to know the exact moment when it's right to step in - and for everyone to come together to naturally convey the energy needed to make the scene work. Remember, just like in watching ordinary television or movies, people subconsciously replace the main actors with themselves. In porn, this is incredibly difficult to pull off, because all five guys are the protagonist of the scene at the same time, alpha male or not. They're all doing what the viewer themselves wants to accomplish - fucking the girl. So, coordination between them is key.

It's not just getting hard or being big that's key for the male actors, it's their timing, their positioning, their energy, and the mood they convey when fucking the girl. There are a handful of scenes in the history of porn that are beyond any and everything else. Some shot in basements, others in parking lots, some where ...

The energy in the air itself was something everyone present latched onto - and all performers - male and female - coordinated and synchronized with themselves in a manner that no one could ever direct them to. They just had this feeling - this energy - and that razor sharp edge which was created and maintained from the first second of the video to the last is something that no other medium can even come close to recreating.

But it happens like in one out of every hundred thousand videos.

Everyone else, everywhere else, are thinking about their performance as they perform. Which ruins ... everything, pretty much.

There are like a tiny, incredibly small amount of porn videos that truly ever have been shot.

Everything else has just been pretending.

For the person who you replied to to say that the male actors don't matter or don't count is an act of not understanding the medium itself.

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Re: There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby rakdobi » Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:29 pm

If the girl looks good but she doesn't know how to suck? A male actor is more important to a scene, can make a scene from bad to great, if you don't have a good actor, no matter how good the girl looks and how energetic, you're going to have a bad scene.

Good actor+girl who can't function better than Good girl+actor who can't function

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Re: There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby isis666xxx » Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:00 pm

these entitled male actors thinking they can be as important as the girl

imagine a planet trying to compete with the SUN

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Re: There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby isis666xxx » Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:12 pm

isis666xxx wrote:you put a ugly fat girl getting fucked by a perfect male actor with a giant cock, and the porn video is gonna be shit

you put a very hot girl getting fucked by a old fat guy with a normal size cock and the porn video is gonna be great


and with the camera work, lighting, studio etc is the same

those things are secondary as compared to the girl

you put a fat ugly girl in a professional studio with high quality lighting, high quality camera, high quality male actors = the porn is gonna be shit and not hot

while you put a very hot girl doing crazy anal stuff in her room with normal lighting, normal camera and alone/with a old fat guy = the porn is gonna be high quality and very hot


male actors, lighting, camera, etc are important but whats really important and the base is how hot the girl is and what she does
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Re: There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby hyapet » Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:34 pm

It's a false equivalency that you're selling there, Isis666xxx.

No one ever said that the female actress wasn't important - just that the male actors are important. And they really, really, really fucking are.

Your analogy that a hot girl with any male actor is automatically great is so wrong.

The number of small penis'd men I've seen where the girl has to pretend she's getting an orgasm. The number awkward dudes who look like they just woke up two minutes ago. The number of "studs" who have a problem lifting the girl up, or getting her to move, acting instead like they're trying to move out from under some immoveable force. The ones who gently start fucking the girl as if it's just an afternoon shag with the ugliest girl in the dorm. The guys who awkwardly stand there and miss their cue - and then bumble about trying to get in the right spot. The guys who try to use humor and make the whole thing just fucking awkward. The guys who fumble around with their dicks for forty seconds trying to get it in for the DAP - where you can just literally fucking feel the breath leaving the scene.

A hot girl is like a motorcycle on the show room floor. Looks great and all - and it's fun imagining driving it - but there's no entry point for you - the viewer. You cannot become part of the scene. That's where the stud comes in.

When you've got a batch of good studs surrounding that girl - that's when the motorcycle is on the highway going 160 mph. That's when you are actually driving the thing - and the whole experience reaches a new dimension.

A batch of good studs is beyond valuable for a good director/producer/studio.

If you're trying to tell me that the batch of Nikki Hill BBC DAP scenes (a couple in particular) would have been just as good if there was a couple of old dudes fucking her - or if she was sitting on the couch by herself for an hour with a couple of dildos - you're smoking too much crack. Lay off the pipe, my man. Go out and get some help.

I can usually see where you have a point in the stuff you say - but for the most part, Isis666xxx, on this one, you are just dead wrong.

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Re: There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby TheVulture » Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:54 pm

hyapet wrote:It's a false equivalency that you're selling there, Isis666xxx.

No one ever said that the female actress wasn't important - just that the male actors are important. And they really, really, really fucking are.

Your analogy that a hot girl with any male actor is automatically great is so wrong.

The number of small penis'd men I've seen where the girl has to pretend she's getting an orgasm. The number awkward dudes who look like they just woke up two minutes ago. The number of "studs" who have a problem lifting the girl up, or getting her to move, acting instead like they're trying to move out from under some immoveable force. The ones who gently start fucking the girl as if it's just an afternoon shag with the ugliest girl in the dorm. The guys who awkwardly stand there and miss their cue - and then bumble about trying to get in the right spot. The guys who try to use humor and make the whole thing just fucking awkward. The guys who fumble around with their dicks for forty seconds trying to get it in for the DAP - where you can just literally fucking feel the breath leaving the scene.

A hot girl is like a motorcycle on the show room floor. Looks great and all - and it's fun imagining driving it - but there's no entry point for you - the viewer. You cannot become part of the scene. That's where the stud comes in.

When you've got a batch of good studs surrounding that girl - that's when the motorcycle is on the highway going 160 mph. That's when you are actually driving the thing - and the whole experience reaches a new dimension.

A batch of good studs is beyond valuable for a good director/producer/studio.

If you're trying to tell me that the batch of Nikki Hill BBC DAP scenes (a couple in particular) would have been just as good if there was a couple of old dudes fucking her - or if she was sitting on the couch by herself for an hour with a couple of dildos - you're smoking too much crack. Lay off the pipe, my man. Go out and get some help.

I can usually see where you have a point in the stuff you say - but for the most part, Isis666xxx, on this one, you are just dead wrong.


Great post.

Another thing is that too many scenes are ruined by guys imposing their egos on the scene. Their hands are all over the girl's neck or face when she's giving off heat, which is like pushing cooling rods into a nuclear reactor. That's kind of a personal thing but I think it's hard to argue against. Someone like Mark Dozer who can't spend a second out of the action without putting his hands somewhere in the frame and with him inevitably as the physically dominant factor. It's too staged, too "porn"....spoils any natural flow. It's a big problem with AV/LP and I think it will only be erased kicking and screaming into the endless void of the internet.
More non-manhandle scenes please. Hands away from face/neck/shoulders. Keep the girls loose, free and expressive. Don't overpower them - let them sizzle! Keep the heels on. More panties pulled to one side. More skirts/tight dresses. More 0% pussy scenes.

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Re: There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby hyapet » Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:41 pm

TheVulture wrote:Another thing is that too many scenes are ruined by guys imposing their egos on the scene. Their hands are all over the girl's neck or face when she's giving off heat, which is like pushing cooling rods into a nuclear reactor. That's kind of a personal thing but I think it's hard to argue against. Someone like Mark Dozer who can't spend a second out of the action without putting his hands somewhere in the frame and with him inevitably as the physically dominant factor. It's too staged, too "porn"....spoils any natural flow. It's a big problem with AV/LP and I think it will only be erased kicking and screaming into the endless void of the internet.


Yeah - and with all the pitfalls and traps that studs can fall into - it's actually incredibly difficult to properly pull off a good scene. Where the energy of two people go "hunh - hunh - hunh" for an hour actually encompasses a journey, with moments, energy shifts, and an unspoken conversation between the male and female talent that, when it hits that sweet spot, can be absolutely magical.

The actual brilliance it takes to properly understand and be fully present as a stud during a scene, whilst also having the non-thinking, pure-animal-brained energy required to turn the act from "it's another porno scene" into something where you lose track of the time on the timeline ... is incredibly rare.

Even the legends could only hit it some of the time. I think Mike Chapman is the fucking man - who doesn't - and he's been responsible for some of the best porn ever shot, bar none. But even he has a huge litany of scenes where he just gets too cute with it - or talks for too long - or finds himself going too far over to the conversation/acting/clowning around side of things where it isn't in direct service of the fucking.

The South American actors that shoot for Yummy and Natasha Teen and Mambo - like, I have nothing against them, and I understand that with the actual size of their cocks, they have to be more careful than most with how they approach the girl and how the fuck her. They don't want to actually hurt them, right? But then, the energy they bring to the scene itself has them approaching the girl with the same energy a city worker does a busted sewer pipe on a cold winter's day. I've seen British grandfathers approach a cup of tea with more energy than these studs approach the girl's with. Do anything for long enough - and it becomes routine. Even fucking outrageously hot new girls every day of every week of every month of every year. I mean - I could do it - but even then, when do you, as an actor, just run out of ideas yourself ... right?

Which brings this all around to, again, just how important the male talent is in a scene. Believe it or not, Isis666xxx, the world didn't get to where it is today by a whole bunch of girl's fucking themselves with a dildo on a couch. Meaning, the actual magic that can be shared between a girl and guy who are in the zone together, even in a non-private setting (like in front of another dude holding a camera) is, indeed, magical.

Saying that the dude isn't required has the same weight here as all those angry, woke, feminists do when they say the same shit regarding men in the Western world. And guess what - that opinion is getting thrown out into the trash over there too.

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Re: There are no new male actors in the world anymore (BWC, BBC)

Postby TheVulture » Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:22 pm

hyapet wrote:The South American actors that shoot for Yummy and Natasha Teen and Mambo - like, I have nothing against them, and I understand that with the actual size of their cocks, they have to be more careful than most with how they approach the girl and how the fuck her. They don't want to actually hurt them, right? But then, the energy they bring to the scene itself has them approaching the girl with the same energy a city worker does a busted sewer pipe on a cold winter's day.


Ha ha ha that's brilliantly put. I think that applies to a lot of the Euro LP/AV guys as well though. It's really a direct result of the increased demands of modern porn. Scenes that rarely dip below an hour and with guys filming multiple scenes per day. They're obviously artificially stimulated and that obviously is going to have an effect on their performance. It tends to explain why they develop bad habits with their hands as well. They need to find new ways to express themselves or perhaps are even entirely bored by the experience.

I wouldn't change the longer, harder scenes than back in the Private/Christoph Clark etc. era but when you watch those old clips, it's obvious how much more the guys are enjoying themselves. They could just go hard without worrying too much about time limits and they were more naturally juiced up. I do miss the concept of edited porn where you just splice together the explosive bits. I'd much rather take a 15 minute scene of only volcanic action than an hour long scene with lethargy and stop/start mechanics throughout. Hmm so maybe I would like to see change then. Somewhere there's a sweet spot where you marry both and mostly I don't think it's the male performers fault but rather the directors for not creating a sexier climate for their male guys to perform in. There's too much of a reliance on the girls to drive the scenes and for male aggression to substitute for the missing heat. The guys are just box-ticking studs for hire now, rather than being genuinely skilled and lustful performers like back in the day. Reversing that trend won't be easy, perhaps it's impossible but I live in hope.
More non-manhandle scenes please. Hands away from face/neck/shoulders. Keep the girls loose, free and expressive. Don't overpower them - let them sizzle! Keep the heels on. More panties pulled to one side. More skirts/tight dresses. More 0% pussy scenes.


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