Effects of Trump victory on porn

[hyapet]

I wouldn't want people to have the absolutely valid mental justification for thinking I'm a whore just because of my gender.

OF has about 2 million creators, the vast majority are US women between 18-45, of which there are 1.4m creators. If you're thinking of all women as whores based on 2% of 18-45 women having an OF, then that is very much a you problem.

Your absolutes destroy any argument you may have had. Most likely because you don't have one. Let me explain.

To assume every woman I meet is a whore because of the actions of a small subset of the population would be absolutely fucking retarded.

Nothing is clear-cut. But! If you see a girl with rings through her nose, three different colors in her hair, and has tattoos all over her body - these days - are you telling me the thought, "She probably has an OF account," wouldn't pass through your mind?

Really ?

And why would that be? Because you've seen more girls who look exactly like that on OF who celebrate the lifestyle and make it seem synonymous with "the brand." Where between the shops to the hair salon and Hot Topic the girl is just going to drop by the sex-shop for the 12 inch black dildo that will end up paying for it all. I know people like this.

Usually when something becomes a stereotype - there's a bit of truth to it. And what allows the stereotype to form in the first place is witnessing something enough times that your mind starts making the prediction.

So, no. Not all girls everywhere are whores. Fucking obviously. But - when meeting certain personality types - when meeting people who dress in a certain fashion - and espouse certain ideologies - the lines all start to point to something which, while it very well may not exist for said person, one really wouldn't be surprised if it did.

And it's this entrance into the field of "the ordinary" that such a huge fucking portion of the population going into the OF business presented, that the very basis of girls everywhere cannot escape the very real mathematical probability that they very well could be doing OF work. It's not whether or not they actually do do it - it's whether or not the perception of them doing it can logically exist.

And with two percent of the population - it absolutely fucking can.

"Oh, 2%, that's nothing big," you might think. Wrong.

Look at it this way.

When you go onto the subway train during a busy time of day, there can be up to 100 girls inside a single car alone. That means you're in the presence of 2 OF girls just on the subway car. If you walk into a University that has an enrollment of 5,000 people, that's 100 OF workers located on the premise. When you go to a lecture hall, any lecture hall, and see 200 students sitting there, 100 of them female ... that's two OF workers you're looking at.

By those metrics - and just the number of people you pass on the street in a busy city every day - you can very well pass by 100 OF workers in a given day. That's if the numbers are being consistent. Pass by a group of girls who are all dressed slutty, but have extremely expensive phones and purses, and somebody points to a photo on one of them, and they all start giggling?

It could be anything. But - when you normalize what used to be an absolute fringe profession - and get 2% of the female population engaging in it - that just becomes a part of the collective female's experience at that point.

Put another way - can you name any other industry where two percent of a gender's population works in it?

Put that way - it's a huge portion of the population now, right?

And, let's say there was such a profession for guys, let's say ... IT professionals, could you then say that people wouldn't pick up on the signs that somebody might be working in IT? The dress casual shirt, the laptop in the briefcase, the thin rimmed glasses. All stereotypes - sure - but when you would approach such a person and ask - a fair number might actually confirm that, yes, they work in IT.

That's what's going on here.

[hyapet]

i accept that you stated at the top of your post that you felt contricted in your views on the subject of OF v AVLP, but i really don't think you can separate out OF models from AVLP models as you are trying to do (presenting one as a destructive force in society and the other as a benign force). they both exist and function on exactly the same moral scale (to different extents). this continuum evidenced by the fact that many AVLP models use both platforms

fwiw (like you) i think OF is by and large a junk xxx platform, and it's obvious that it has had a profoundly negative effect on the abilty of large scale xxx production companies to function. but trying to turn that personal preference and business reality into grounds for a moral crusade falls flat, and also risks wandering into casually (if accidentally) insulting performers on this site who use the site. which i think most members here will agree is negative behaviour

You're missing some pretty obvious stuff here. For the sake of clarification - let me really lay out the argument.

No one is ever going to convince any non-degenerate that sex work is anything but extremely harmful for the people who engage in it. Believe it or not - humanity (with survival) has largely developed so that cohabiting with a single partner brings the greatest chance of survival with it. With that in mind, what that translates to, is that the way most people are programmed, the stability, assurance, and compatibility of having a single partner brings a sense of safety, progress, and completion to life.

This isn't me standing on some conservative soapbox - this is both basic genetics and chemical reactions. When people "bond" with one another (it typically happens over the course of three sleeps together) - those bodies begin to chemically talk to one another, releasing hormones and pheromones and all that stuff when they're near one another, typically allowing the bodies to communicate directly to one another. This transcends the purely physical and goes into the emotional and spiritual afterwards, when the two people begin to learn more about one another, and begin to create a framework around their existences that specifically tailor themselves to the other.

This is everything you don't get when you're on an endless cock carousel. Thing is - the body still craves it. Unfortunately - the body then gets taught that the act of sex is no longer a gateway to these feelings - so the act of sex in and of itself loses a lot of it's power. What it was originally meant to do - to connect two people intimately - has been lost. It's like replacing a highly nutritious meal with a bag of Doritos. Will those Doritos taste great at the moment? Yes. But - you're going to be feeling empty afterwards - and, as is typically the case, hungry as well.

And this plays out with statistics. Not political statistics - but actual statistics amongst the generations(s) (now) of girls and women who have "spent time to discover themselves" by rocking every cock they could get their hands on. They're fucking miserable. They're not happy in life. And by the time they come to terms with how they've acted and what they've done - the process has already been completed.

They've accumulated all the baggage that having multiple partners (many of whom, by following the same lifestyle, will likewise have mental issues, and thereby possess a greater tendency to be abusive) brings - and are now in a spot where they fundamentally cannot trust the opposite gender outside of doing a bodily transaction for the most basic and fundamental reasons they can. They're hungry. And the emptiness brought by all the Doritos they've eaten only makes them hungrier. So, when they hook up their next Dorito hit, they'll hate the Doritos, they'll hate themselves for eating them, and they'll hate the fact that they've gotten so fat. But - they're still going to eat them. Because that's all they know what to do at that point.

So - as should make absolute fucking sense - sex work is harmful to the individuals who partake in it. No matter the form. There's a reason why the women who performed such actions in the past were looked down on by society as a whole - because society as a whole back then recognized what the person had lost by making such a decision. Something the "liberal free-love" movement eradicated.

So - no - this isn't some evangelical - or conservative - or whatever tight-knit term you have to barrel all the people who don't fit into the progressive left-leaning world view that has taken over - this is just basic fucking reality talking.

My point then - came purely from a number's perspective.

If there are going to be people engaging in such acts - and there are going to be people who likewise consume it - if, for argument's purpose, every single person that engages in the sex act gets destroyed, but, simultaneously, a single person could (theoretically) satisfy the entire audience that consumes the product, then what would be the best scenario for everybody?

For 4,000 people to take that hit?

Or for 2,000,000 people to take that hit?

That's why OF is such a genuinely destructive cancer.

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And dude - I don't know what to tell you - sometimes people change their minds.

If the Donald Trump of today says he doesn't believe in the same things he did two fucking years ago - then I would suggest that's evidence, not of a sociopath, but of somebody who's got the flexibility to change their perception, often based on the circumstances they're presented with. When Trump's team came to him and said, "Hey Boss, people on all sides of the isle really aren't taking well to this Project 2025 stuff," he then probably said, "Well, it would probably make sense if we dropped it and focused more on the things people actually are concerned with."

I don't know - maybe he's doing all of this just so he can enact his Project 2025 - and then laugh as support of his party begins to erode, he loses the institutions he's acquired, and his mandate gets lost in the weeds while he focuses on shit that should absolutely be third priority. Who knows - maybe he is.

But, if you're seriously suggesting that that is the case, then ... I don't know what to tell you.

Other than to rid yourself of all the (left-leaning) non-thinking shortcuts you may have unwittingly adopted on your travels. You're both smarter - and better - than that. You've got an actual brain, latina_girls_yes.

Don't betray it.

[jjwhite1985]

Nothing is clear-cut. But! If you see a girl with rings through her nose, three different colors in her hair, and has tattoos all over her body - these days - are you telling me the thought, "She probably has an OF account," wouldn't pass through your mind?

Jesus christ dude, you just can't stop can you?

[xxxVIPERxxx]

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[Anselm_Weinberg]

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[Songxx1]

Trump is actually good for porn and for all other inustrues like movies, tv shows video games etc. everything is poisoned now by left side , be political correct for all the cost and push Woke culture everywhere...

[misangrenegra2]

I cannot say the reasons (i don't know them) but in the last 6 days the prices are rising little by little.

[dap-addict]

Ticket prices are the same, but 120 TKT re-load option is a bit more expensive due to USD gaining value against Euro and other currencies it seems.

Just realized that 120TKT re-charge option price has risen by 1,37% during last 24h.
It's a minor price rise, but still.


Disclaimer: No politics here please, just effects on porn, only porn!

It's 1,44% more expensive then right before Trump election for me now.

[dap-addict]

i.e. TKT price is growing slowly.
Luckily I managed to re-charge just 2 days after US election results became clear!

[maxalkire]

i.e. TKT price is growing slowly.
Luckily I managed to re-charge just 2 days after US election results became clear!

DAP Addict, I just bought some tickets yesterday, and they were exactly the same price.I actually bought the tickets because of your original post. The new Francys Belle Gags Girl scene was worth it!

[xxxVIPERxxx]

I think Trump will be too busy enacting his agenda, resolving the conflicts/wars around the world in Ukraine, in the Middle East etc.
There will be no noticeable effects on porn.

[dap-addict]

i.e. TKT price is growing slowly.
Luckily I managed to re-charge just 2 days after US election results became clear!

DAP Addict, I just bought some tickets yesterday, and they were exactly the same price.I actually bought the tickets because of your original post. The new Francys Belle Gags Girl scene was worth it!

Maybe you buy your tickets in $.
I pay in Euro and price rises, but not sharply. I just run out of TKT again and may have to recharge to buy more DAP tonight. It would cost me 2,4% more than on Nov 4th just before US-elections.

[misangrenegra2]

This is who it looks for me, i started to get the data since 7 november. I think is very intuitive

[Sergio8317]

and finally, to head off any Trump fans who think my above comments are the views of a democrat supporter just trying to score tribal points...

i would NEVER vote for the Democrats either, and i consider the whole lot ('Genocide Joe') Biden/Harris (Obama, Clinton and all the rest) every bit as dishonest, manipulative and generally untrustworthy as Trump

by way of a disclaimer, if i could have voted in the US election i would have voted Jill Stein, purely for her stance on Palestine. but i'm not going to discuss my stance on that here (and niether should anyone else, seriously) because it has literally nothing to do with the topic of the thread

the only reason i mention Trump and the policy statements as expressed by The Heritage Foundation are because they relate 100% to the topic as stated by the OP. beyond that i'm not interested in discussing US party politics here

you're just a leftist schizophrenic.
all leftist schizophrenics hate Trump, but love Palestinian terrorists.

[blackandwhite97]

I think it's all about girls getting their shitholes distroyed - not about politics. You can choose who can best sell their lies to the people, that's all.

[maxalkire]

This is who it looks for me, i started to get the data since 7 november. I think is very intuitive

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i.e. TKT price is growing slowly.
Luckily I managed to re-charge just 2 days after US election results became clear!

DAP Addict, I just bought some tickets yesterday, and they were exactly the same price.I actually bought the tickets because of your original post. The new Francys Belle Gags Girl scene was worth it!

Maybe you buy your tickets in $.
I pay in Euro and price rises, but not sharply. I just run out of TKT again and may have to recharge to buy more DAP tonight. It would cost me 2,4% more than on Nov 4th just before US-elections.

Indeed I do buy tickets in dollars plus I live in a state with no sales tax. The posted spreadsheet illustrates that the EU powers that be are adding tax to tickets in Europe.I don't believe Trump's election is at the root of this rise though.

[latina-girls-yes]

and finally, to head off any Trump fans who think my above comments are the views of a democrat supporter just trying to score tribal points...

i would NEVER vote for the Democrats either, and i consider the whole lot ('Genocide Joe') Biden/Harris (Obama, Clinton and all the rest) every bit as dishonest, manipulative and generally untrustworthy as Trump

by way of a disclaimer, if i could have voted in the US election i would have voted Jill Stein, purely for her stance on Palestine. but i'm not going to discuss my stance on that here (and niether should anyone else, seriously) because it has literally nothing to do with the topic of the thread

the only reason i mention Trump and the policy statements as expressed by The Heritage Foundation are because they relate 100% to the topic as stated by the OP. beyond that i'm not interested in discussing US party politics here

you're just a leftist schizophrenic.
all leftist schizophrenics hate Trump, but love Palestinian terrorists.

save it for your mother, Sergio. maybe she has time for your incel bullshit, but i don't

the topic of the thread is to discuss how the election of Trump might negatively or positively affect the xxx industry

if you have an informed/evidenced opinion on that (you clearly don't on the situation in the levant) then state your position. if you don't, then leave

note: 'informed/evidenced' does not mean more of your Trump-Bro tribal nonsense

[Sergio8317]

and finally, to head off any Trump fans who think my above comments are the views of a democrat supporter just trying to score tribal points...

i would NEVER vote for the Democrats either, and i consider the whole lot ('Genocide Joe') Biden/Harris (Obama, Clinton and all the rest) every bit as dishonest, manipulative and generally untrustworthy as Trump

by way of a disclaimer, if i could have voted in the US election i would have voted Jill Stein, purely for her stance on Palestine. but i'm not going to discuss my stance on that here (and niether should anyone else, seriously) because it has literally nothing to do with the topic of the thread

the only reason i mention Trump and the policy statements as expressed by The Heritage Foundation are because they relate 100% to the topic as stated by the OP. beyond that i'm not interested in discussing US party politics here

you're just a leftist schizophrenic.
all leftist schizophrenics hate Trump, but love Palestinian terrorists.

save it for your mother, Sergio. maybe she has time for your incel bullshit, but i don't

the topic of the thread is to discuss how the election of Trump might negatively or positively affect the xxx industry

if you have an informed/evidenced opinion on that (you clearly don't on the situation in the levant) then state your position. if you don't, then leave

note: 'informed/evidenced' does not mean more of your Trump-Bro tribal nonsense

I already said that you have schizophrenia like all leftists.
You are talking conspiracy bullshit. You see conspiracies everywhere. Everywhere one sees the machinations of the "evil" Trump.
In fact, the biggest threat from pornography comes from the left.They will probably soon ban sex altogether.
And I clearly understand the situation in the Middle East better than you.
You're like a zombified cultist.

[latina-girls-yes]

you're just a leftist schizophrenic.
all leftist schizophrenics hate Trump, but love Palestinian terrorists.

save it for your mother, Sergio. maybe she has time for your incel bullshit, but i don't

the topic of the thread is to discuss how the election of Trump might negatively or positively affect the xxx industry

if you have an informed/evidenced opinion on that (you clearly don't on the situation in the levant) then state your position. if you don't, then leave

note: 'informed/evidenced' does not mean more of your Trump-Bro tribal nonsense

I already said that you have schizophrenia like all leftists.
You are talking conspiracy bullshit. You see conspiracies everywhere. Everywhere one sees the machinations of the "evil" Trump.
In fact, the biggest threat from pornography comes from the left.They will probably soon ban sex altogether.
And I clearly understand the situation in the Middle East better than you.
You're like a zombified cultist.

you don't get it Sergio, because you didn't read what i said (or you did read it but are incapable of processing it).
i don't respect or support either political pole in the US, because there is *no point*. and there is no point because there is literally no such thing as US democracy. the concept of US democracy is just disneyland with voting machines

any 'shallow semblance' of US democracy (shallow because even at inception it was was built on excluding native americans and blacks from ever having any influence) was killed off and replaced with the current system long ago.
what passes for democracy today is just bread and circuses psyop created to distract the public, while the real business of running the US remains in the hands of those who hold real power. and those forces can never be voted out or held accountable by the US public, because they operate beyond the reach of party politics

those forces being the security state (domestic and outward facing), the military industrial complex (exactly as Eisenhower warned in January 1961), the power of international capital (the international banking system, global hedge funds, mega corporations, etc), and powerful domestic and foreign lobby groups (big pharma, AIPAC, etc)

they decide if the US goes to war or doesn't. they decide if a foreign country is to be couped or not. they decide if digital currency is to be forced upon the public or not. their decisions are forwarded to the president, and that president is expected to implement that, or they get the JFK treatment (they tried to do this to Trump this summer. it failed, but Trump now fully understands his place within the system as a consequence)

remember when Trump promised to make the JFK files public as an election pledge for his first term, and then when he won he didn't?
why do you think that was? he's was the president, right? he could make all the decisions and give all the orders?
he didn't release the files because those forces that really control the US wouldn't let him (because it would have exposed the system, and that would have caused a civil war in the US). so he shut up and did as he was told

and these forces control popular opinion through their medias, forever playing one side against the other (which you are still caught up in, cheering for this or hating that, thinking that your opinion and your vote matter) to maintain an illusion of a democracy, so the US public can continue to believe in their fake disneyland democracy and never have to face the (terrifiying) reality that that they now live in a corporate authoritarian state over which they can never have any real influence or control, and which they can never hold to account

if those non-democratic and non-accountable forces decide it serves their interests to go to war with China, Iran, DPRK or Russia, it will happen. and if Trump tries to stand in the way of that he will be removed from power, one way or another (as he was warned this summer and now understands, even if he still pretends to stand against 'the deep state')

the US election was a choice between two turds (red and blue). last time the blue turd won, this time the red turd won. but because you are still totally invested in (and so a victim of) the divisive blue/red media psyop that the powerful forces control still, you can't see the turd for the red and are missing the bigger picture

your black pill duly delivered, now go back to enjoying all the multitude of xxx joys this site has to offer, and stop with this pointless and infantile tribal leftist/rightist political nonsense. it's meaningless beyond words

this is a porn forum for the discussion of all things porn. if you don't want to talk about that, join another forum

[jjwhite1985]

your black pill duly delivered, now go back to enjoying all the multitude of xxx joys this site has to offer, and stop with this pointless and infantile tribal leftist/rightist political nonsense. it's meaningless beyond words

this is a porn forum for the discussion of all things porn. if you don't want to talk about that, join another forum

Sorry to say it but it's only you, hyapet, and anselm_weinberg who keep posting tedious political screeds on the thread; that said at least the other two aren't pretending they're above it. If you'd all give it a rest I'm sure all the other users of the forum, minus the trolls, would be grateful for the small act of mercy.

[dap-addict]

Guys, no politics, please!
Just: Do we get more girls for porn again? Do we get censorship in US? How could peace in Ukraine affect EU porn pool? etc.
And mainly what is already now happening in that porn field? - i.e. paying in Euros my 120TKT recharge price has stabilized during last 2 days. Generally prize went up 2,4% for me, which isnt a drama for my porn hobby budget.

[dap-addict]

edit: Guys, no politics, please!
And hopefully some porn girl forum talkers, too: No politics here!

[hyapet]

latina-girls-yes kind of misses the bigger picture, though.

The Deep State isn't infallible. It really only came into full force after the Second World War - when it had finally achieved its aims of acquiring a military force that could, effectively, control the World. Which it then started using at record pace to destabilize any country from the outside or from within to get what it hungered for the most; resources. Money. Control.

Yet, all these things being what they are, the Deep State is prone like any other system to failures, weaknesses, and an eventual bogging down or aging of the systems it uses to maintain that control.

You seem so certain that Trump now kow-tows to the Deep State - but, you don't seem to be picking up on the clues as to what's really going on. In the 80's or 90's - Trump wanted, more than anything, to become a part of that system. Yet, that system snubbed it's nose at him. You could see it on his face when Obama told him he would never be President, he had aims much higher than "just being another cog in the Deep State machine," and you can see that reality starting to unfold right now.

First of all - he named the Deep State. Something no other candidate before has ever done. He pretty much told everybody, "Hey - these guys? Public enemy number one." It moved the "conspiracy theory" nature of it over the line into the openly recognized and discussable. Suddenly now - everybody knows the Deep State actually exists. Furthermore - they know that all of their inward held beliefs of a deep rooted power structure in the United States working against them was true all along. You know what they say - knowing is half the battle.

The other half is exposing the tendrils and tentacles that the Deep State holds and the manner in which it keeps the population under control. All of the "trans and gay and rad lib" issues will simmer down and become irrelevant the minute people can talk about it openly again. This tension all this time was built from having an opinion and not being able to express it. This was also the Deep State's methodology to weaken and eliminate the freedom of speech within America. Seems that plan just got knocked out.

Next up - the pharmaceutical industry - the manner in which Americans were kept fat, drugged, and addicted. Seems like RFK Jr. is going to be doing his best to dismantle that bad-boy.

Another thing - the justice system - which was rigged especially so that all the willing judges that gave favorable rulings to all the corporations - now they won't be able to be hired by the companies they judged or ruled over afterwards. Meaning, the paybacks and payments that the Deep State could issue towards judges who would be willing to toe the line just got dismantled as well. Same goes for all the "frivolous spending" that Elon Musk is about to target with his waste management program.

For "just another red or blue turd" would have been true in the past. But Trump is bigger than to be anybody else's patsy. He seems to actually want to dismantle the system actually controlling the States from behind the scene - so that, once that's done - who's left to rule it for the next while? The party he pretty much reinvented from the ground up.

That isn't to say that this dismantling will happen in an instant - or that the actors in those institutions won't do everything in their power to hold onto their control - but the dynamics of the entire playing field has changed with this one piece moving differently than predicted. As often happens in chess.

Typically, elections are predictable, and all candidates act the same afterwards. Trump is different. Whether or not he gets everything done - well, that's yet to be seen. But, the most clever thing he's done this time around is build an entire party of super stars behind him. Folks who will carry on his legacy, and are acquiring the popularity necessary to do so, once he's gone. So, an assassination attempt will only embolden the next person in charge to drive even harder to the same net that Trump was going towards, if for no other reason than everyone at that point will really want it. You know - the voter. Who, surprisingly, still seems to matter somewhat.

Don't worry - the Deep State will never disappear. They've got too much super advanced technology and military might to fade. But, with the whole world actually knowing who they are, their ability to dictate and change the circumstances by which everyone else lives by will begin to fade somewhat. Hopefully forever, but at least for now. They still control all the corporations - which are the real muscle behind everything that happens on this planet. But - if they don't directly control the consumer - then they've lost a lot of emphasis and control on that chess board.

Trump plays for keeps. You think he made this whole thing just to follow orders from somebody else? The very people who looked down on him and snubbed him? You think he's afraid of dying? Of becoming a martyr that will forever be remembered in the American psyche as one of the most epic dudes to ever live in the most epic country on the planet until he had to be taken down by force? He wouldn't pass that up.

Your rhetoric would have made sense eight years ago. But now ... things seem to be changing somewhat from the status quo. A new dynamic, a new paradigm might be taking shape. We'll see how the next four years goes.

And, don't worry dap_addict, the rest of the entire forum is dedicated to double anal topics. We can have one politics discussion. It's okay.

Even if small minds like jjwhite can't handle being unable to contribute anything meaningful to it.

[jjwhite1985]

You'll be unsurprised to know that not contributing anything meaningful to this "politics" discussion is something you and I have in common

[latina-girls-yes]

latina-girls-yes kind of misses the bigger picture, though.

The Deep State isn't infallible. It really only came into full force after the Second World War - when it had finally achieved its aims of acquiring a military force that could, effectively, control the World. Which it then started using at record pace to destabilize any country from the outside or from within to get what it hungered for the most; resources. Money. Control.

Yet, all these things being what they are, the Deep State is prone like any other system to failures, weaknesses, and an eventual bogging down or aging of the systems it uses to maintain that control.

You seem so certain that Trump now kow-tows to the Deep State - but, you don't seem to be picking up on the clues as to what's really going on. In the 80's or 90's - Trump wanted, more than anything, to become a part of that system. Yet, that system snubbed it's nose at him. You could see it on his face when Obama told him he would never be President, he had aims much higher than "just being another cog in the Deep State machine," and you can see that reality starting to unfold right now.

(edit)

Your rhetoric would have made sense eight years ago. But now ... things seem to be changing somewhat from the status quo. A new dynamic, a new paradigm might be taking shape. We'll see how the next four years goes.

And, don't worry dap_addict, the rest of the entire forum is dedicated to double anal topics. We can have one politics discussion. It's okay.

Even if small minds like jjwhite can't handle being unable to contribute anything meaningful to it.

i respect your interest in political debate (even if i don't agree with many of your positions). but not wanting to rain on anyone's parade, this is a dedicated and designated porn forum. there are lots of dedicated politics forums and social medias out there for that kind of a debate, and when i want to talk politics i go there. but i come here to get away from that.

i think (and not the first time i've said it here) this thread should try to stay focused purely on those aspects of the Trump thing that may effect xxx creators and producers under his administration/regime (choose your flavour!). ideally that would be things he (or those within his camp) are on record as saying on the subject, such as my quoting the Heritage Foundation's 2025 policy. something more substantial than 'well i like the guy so i think he will be good for xxx'

as a closing comment (before i abandon this thread to its fate) my general and abiding opinion on Trump remains as i outlined in my comment about him being a sociopath. he's a textbook case, if you know how the term applies.
another term that i think equally applies, is that he is a 'shapeshifter'. by which i mean his sociopathy manifests in his ability to present himself before people in the form they most want and need to see him as, in order for him to be able to take from them what he needs to increase his wealth and power

in an election context, this means votes and vocal public support. and in general, this explains the cultish quasi-religious faith people that place in him
in essence, he feeds and thrives on a real desperation and hoplessness that many americans feel, which is a consequence of them recognising (at some level - conscious or semi-conscious) what i said above with regard to US democracy having died, and having been replaced with a corporate-run order which exists beyond the reach of party politics

that symptom is real enough, but (in my view) rather than breaking that model and replacing it with a fairer system for all, Trump is ultimately only interested in replacing one shade of that hegemonic corporate order with another more aligned to his business interests. so 'business as usual' will continue, just red not blue

the forever wars, occupations, coups, will continue, and the US military industrial complex will profit from that.
the inexorable shifting of wealth from the poorest demographic (non-asset holders) to the wealthiest (asset holders, which Trump is above all) will continue, and the global hedge funds and banks will profit from that.
and so on

if people want to understand what he stands for and what he will do over the next five years, stop listening to his chaotic and constantly contradictory statements, and just read down through the list of his biggest financial backers. that is his policy right there. they scratched his back and now he will scratch theirs
his backers will be rewarded, his wealth will increase. anything beyond that will just be summary and random improvised adhoc policies to please the gallery and tick culture wars boxes, but nothing will change

again it comes back to sociopathy. Trump is purely transactional. he believes in nothing and stands for nothing, beyond increasing his wealth and power. if people want to believe otherwise they are welcome to that blind faith, but the evidence to date (his previous term) doesn't support that.

and as for acolytes saying 'but that was then, this is now!'. well that's just another way of saying 'inspite of all the evidence to date...'.
people can 'believe' whatever they want, but betting against all known evidence is to abandon reality for blind faith. it's cult behaviour

anyway, enough said. i'm here for the xxx and deep dives on poltics are for another time and place entirely

Even if small minds like jjwhite can't handle being unable to contribute anything meaningful to it.

sometimes i agree with JJ, and sometimes i disagree, but i think it would be fairer (less mean) to accept that they almost certaintly have political views, while accepting that they don't want to discuss them here, which is entirely reasonable bearing in mind that it's an xxx forum not a political one

[latina-girls-yes]

edit: Guys, no politics, please!

haha, this whole shitshow thread is on you DAPaddict. don't try to run away from it now!

seriously, starting a thread about what members think the most powerful politicianon earth will do, and then adding 'BUT NO POLITICS!'

it's like saying 'hey let's have a discussion about fish... BUT DON'T MENTION WATER!'

no disrespect, but own your mess and learn from it

[latina-girls-yes]

And hopefully some porn girl forum talkers, too: No politics here!

a fun fact for you which i only found out about this week.

Morganita (aka Morgana Moranguinho), the brazilian model i was raving about here last weekend (because she's absolutely gorgeous, my use of 'cute' in the thread title is an understatement), and who has just begun her career with NatashaTeenProductions/LancelotStyles with a gorgeous looking scene released earlier this month, has already shot a DAP for HardBrazil

obviously i can't link to it here, but if you are not already subscribed to the site, you need to be thinking about doing so if you are serious about scouting latin-american models for your DAP project.

yes, it's a brazilian site (and you've been talking everywhere but, Argentina etc), but it recruits models from all over the region, and as we see with Morganita (i love her name, so cute) models from there then move to the studios represented here

anyway, personally i prefer her scene here (for NTP/Lancelot) to the DAP, because i love Natasha's sense of style and her direction (Morganita's debut for her is gorgeous glamour max), plus her studs are the best in the business imo, most of all the indomitable Lancelot himself

but i know you are ultra anally fixated on the DAP act, so you may prefer the other one (at least until NTP releases a similar themed scene)

anyway, i think Morganita is one to watch (get over to her thread and show some enthusiasm!), because based on her experience with HardBrazil, she has already proven herself more than capable of ticking everyone's boxes and fulfilling everyone's fantasies

she's here:

Morganita aka Morgana Moranguinho supercute brazilian model
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=90661&p=1339122&hilit=morganita#p1339069

[Anselm_Weinberg]

Democracy hasn't died, it's working as intended, as a mediator between antagonistic interests, i.e. classes, there's no holistic pure form that is distorted or corrupted. Trump won in these thoroughly democratic elections.

This personal pathologisation of politicians (remotely diagnosing them with sociopathy or whatever) misses the picture insofar that people like Trump are figureheads, personifications of movements, and undoubtedly in his case, whatever one thinks of him, it's a movement firmly grounded within the fringes of bourgeois democracy.

As such, he is also an embodiment a social deadlock and the discontent resulting therefrom and if it weren't him it would be another similar person in his stead, essentially fulfilling the same role. Which is also why superficial moralising about his personal health or behaviour in no way helps in addressing the underlying causes that produced Trump in the first place.

In my view, this talk of "corporate-run whatever having replaced genuine democracy" is somewhat tiresome. The nation state was always first and foremost in existence to ensure conditions favourable for capital accumulation and thereby the growth and success of the nation.

This is a practical constraint any politician will have to abide by for systemic coherence, regardless of which noble ideals they may subscribe to, they may be nominal socialists or even fascists, liberals, it doesn't matter.

Democracy is perfectly compatible and even beneficial in this arrangement, for it provides an outlet for competing ideas in how this capitalist state should ideally be managed, ensuring various inputs and stimuli that may be required at different stages and is as such one of the motors and equivalences of capital's neverending innovative and transformative potentials in the economic field.

Essentially capitalism in any shape or form, including the mirage of "corporate run somesuch", at least in times of no social upheaval, thrives to no end free competition also within the field of politics and has no interest in abolishing nor is it in any shape or form in contradiction to democracy.

Even if at times this rule may tend to favour one faction of capital over another and this may get reflected in government, it's still a no brainer and net benefit for everyone of these groups involved at the end of the day.

The modern US is as pure as democracy will ever be.

[jjwhite1985]

The modern US is as pure as democracy will ever be.

Well, we could be Switzerland...

But yes, democracy hasn't died. People misunderstand it's purpose. Democracy is not a mechanism for choosing the best leaders, or even good leaders. It's a mechanism for deciding how a country is governed without having to resort to violence; with the new government legitimized through the will of the people, without the need for a civil war. Whatever you think of Trump and however agreeable or disagreeable you find the outcome, democracy is functioning as intended. And I still stand by my original post, I don't think he'll make any difference to the porn world.

[thornegareth34]

I don't think he'll make any difference to the porn world.

In some ways what Trump, MAGA or Republicans more generally do or don't do won't be the full story. What might have a larger impact, especially in the early period of his term, is what people think he might do. This can lead to self-censoring with some scenes delayed or not shot, business decisions about investment deferred or scenes pre-emptively removed as was seen a little in his first term.

[dap-addict]

And hopefully some porn girl forum talkers, too: No politics here!

a fun fact for you which i only found out about this week.

Morganita (aka Morgana Moranguinho), the brazilian model i was raving about here last weekend (because she's absolutely gorgeous (...)
obviously i can't link to it here, but if you are not already subscribed to the site, you need to be thinking about doing so if you are serious about scouting latin-american models for your DAP project.
(...)
Anyway, personally i prefer her scene here (for NTP/Lancelot) to the DAP, because i love Natasha's sense of style and her direction...

Thanks, LGY!
Look, this Morganita is a good example of no-politics-please! actually:
Only question is how is her chance to immigrate to USA and start a porn career there after Trump won elections? Or how much chance porn producers have to continue shooting her for much lower fees locally because she cant enter USA now Trump has won?

No politics needed, just facts and economic forecasts!



Btw, as to Hardbrazil, ofc I have already been subscribed there in my fact finding mission and I checked out a lot of Binho Teds models - not yet Morganita, though. Anyway, problem with that local Brasilian hero is he is selling his models far too expensive to us Gringos!
Finally, but thats really just a margin: I detest Hardbrazils esthetics and prefer NTP as well. And ofc NTP will soon publish a much better DAP with Morganita than Hardbrazil did!

[misangrenegra2]

Balance of prices since 7 november until today.

[dap-addict]

For me the 120TKT re-fill option price went down a bit again - but I am paying in Euro. This said generally Trumps election lead of an overall so far small price rise of about 1%.

[misangrenegra2]

For me the 120TKT re-fill option price went down a bit again - but I am paying in Euro. This said generally Trumps election lead of an overall so far small price rise of about 1%.

How can be that your 120 TKT prices re-fill option went down? As i know, the european base prices should be the same except for the taxes applied (VAT), so the prices at the left should be the same in each european country. (I pay in Euro too)

If you check my spreadsheet since 7 of November, including today, the prices rised, except for 2 days on the prices were the same as the day before, and 2 days where the price were a little bit that the day before but the trend is clear that is rising little by little.

[dap-addict]

How can be that your 120 TKT prices re-fill option went down?

I guess it's due to Dollar to Euro and vice versa conversion rates.

[latina-girls-yes]

Thanks, LGY!
Look, this Morganita is a good example of no-politics-please! actually:
Only question is how is her chance to immigrate to USA and start a porn career there after Trump won elections?

as far as i'm aware latina models i follow prefer to work at home (more and more these days, maybe as a consequence of Gio - and maybe others - changing pricing for overseas models). so i don't think your assumption that Morganita is/was planning to work in the US (let alone emigrate to the US, that's a bizarre idea) are a factor in anything

brazil is brazil. the country is beautiful (unspeakably beautiful), the people are beautiful, the culture is beautiful. and if you have lived there all your life, it's your home, your people, your culture. you know what it is
you instinctively know the good people from the people to avoid, where to be and not to be to have fun and avoid problems. and you have rights as a citizen to govt support to protect your welfare, healthcare, and legal protections

a model who tries to work or stay in the US loses all of that immediately. agencies won't support you to protect your welfare if you have major problems, healthcare is inaccessible and unaffordable, the police may be indifferent to your problems because they consider you an outsider, or worse they may treat you as a criminal (a common prejudice held against the latino community in the US, as with the black community)

plus the US is an impossible place to live unless you have a decent US level income. as an immigrant you could earn more than you can at home, but you have to spend vastly more than at home just to survive to do that. so the expenses cancel out the profit. plus the US is notorious for exploiting and mistreating latinos/latinas workers, because employers know you have no recourse to law or rights

i remember Queen Kimi repeatedly baffled her x followers who kept saying she had to come to euroland to shoot, when she replied that she preferred to stay at home and shoot with brazilian producers.
when she did finally make a trip to europe, i don't think it was because she was in any way enamoured with the prospect of shooting xxx in europe, but because she really wanted to see 'Transylvania' (she's an alt girl remember) and to generate a little nest egg to take back to brazil to enable her to live happily ever after at home with her son (the reason she recently announced her imminent retirement)

so i think the reflex western assumption many hold that all latina models dream of working and living in europe is false and out-of-date, and behind it may even rest a little subconscious prejudice along the lines of 'we in the west are so great, everyone must want to come to live and work here!'.
hence xxx fans constant surprise if and when latina models reply to requests about working in europe with the same answer Queen Kimi gave

Btw, as to Hardbrazil, ofc I have already been subscribed there in my fact finding mission and I checked out a lot of Binho Teds models - not yet Morganita, though. Anyway, problem with that local Brasilian hero is he is selling his models far too expensive to us Gringos!

well this is the situation i described above but from the other side (and why you haven't emmigrated). at home you know who to talk to, where to go, how things work in order to make things happen.
but when you go away you have to live like a fish out of water. eveything is far more expensive to you as an outsider, you have no connections or foundations, and thriving takes second place to surviving

I detest Hardbrazils esthetics and prefer NTP as well. And ofc NTP will soon publish a much better DAP with Morganita than Hardbrazil did!

of course, though HardBrazil performs an important function in scouting beautiful models and teaching them how to perfom to camera. all the latin american studios have their place and their purpose
btw don't forget to visit Morganita's thread sometime to show your support. she's new so her thread is barely started and all positive comments and support help to build up the kind of momentum that will make more producers want to shoot with her

[latina-girls-yes]

No politics needed, just facts and economic forecasts!

you say you want to know how a Trump presidency may affect the latin american xxx situation (and situation in general, since xxx doesn't exist in a vaccuum) but you don't want politics (and imo the two are inseperable since xxx doesn't happen in a vaccuum), so i will give a single point update based on a recent important development

if you know who Marco 'Narco' Rubio is, his past words and actions, and what he stands for with regard to his ugly stances on latin america, then Trump now making him his Secretary of State should be a great cause for concern for you, and likely the cause of increased unrest and upheaval in the region in coming years

he has long held fascistic 'Reagan-ite' US colonialist-interventionist attitude to the region (remember the Contras?), essentially holding that these territories are not independent and sovereign entities that have the right to govern themselves and manage their own resources as they see fit (the democracy thing US politicians love to pretend they care about?), but instead are mere pools of labour and resources in the 'US backyard' to be exploited an controlled (by US led coups and interventions) as the US sees fit

so countries rich in labour and natural resources that currently refuse to play a subservient role to the US are likely to become the targets to be destablised, either internatlly (coups) or from outside by crippling sanctions, sooner rather than later

Rubio and his MAGA media cronies will always try to dress this up as 'bringing to freedom to people' (as the Democrats say the same when they do the same, the parties are interchangeable in a fake democracy).
but the reality is that clowns like Rubio exist purely to serve the role of a compliant political interface between US banks/companies/hedgefunds that demand ever cheaper labour, land and resources, and the US security services and military that will attempt to take that by force when given the order by the politicans

and i will post this again, on the subject of MAGA meda cronies (and clowns)

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so a much as you may not want to think about the political top-down forces affecting the place you choose to set up busniess, you are going to have to think about it a bit more now

[hyapet]

Everything latina-girls-yes just said, and ...

You have to remember that the centuries of this happening at this point has had a direct affect on the people who live there. I said this before, and it was completely ignored, but, to summarize:

You think there are police there? You think there are courts there? You think, even if there were, that they would protect you?

The minute you walk into that place - any of them - with your pocket full of change (re: less than needed to pay off local gangs, police, and whoever else would want to mess with you alongside paying those same people for protection), they're going to wait the exact amount of time needed for you to be set up and already invested, and then will come the knock on the door. If you're lucky.

They might just wrap a bag around your head when you're walking down the street, drag you into a corner of theirs, break a couple of your ribs, and then tell you that the same will happen next month unless you pay X amount of dollars, US currency, of course, you fucking foreigner. Coming here to fuck our girls, huh? We fuck you instead, Gringo.

Life is incredibly fucking cheap in these places. All of them. "Stability" only lasts as long as those foreign investments can squeeze what they need out of the land - in other words - long as they pay a "security force" to present enough of a threat to the same underhanded elements that exist fucking everywhere there.

This is the nature of any country that's been destabilized for a decade or more, nevermind for a century plus. Just like latina-girls-yes stated - U.S corporations have made it their entire existences history to take advantage of these places. Do you know where the term "banana republic" comes from? Look it up. U.S. fruit companies that overthrew governments to instill fake regimes that would be allowed to steal whatever they wanted from the people while selling those same people as slave labor to said fruit companies.

Holy fuck, dap_addixt, you are willingly throwing your life away by going to any of these places, nevermind one who's a literal crossroads between two or three different countries, all of whom go from crises to crises on a regular basis.

I think you've got dreams of beautiful beaches while lining up the most beautiful local talent to perform at super cheap rates. I think the reality that exists there is far different - or else many more people located within the porn industry would have done what you're trying to do.

I sincerely hope you realize you're flirting with prospects that will get killed. And not in the nicest of manners, either. In fact, the irony of it all, is that may be the final "porn" video you'll be a part of.

Fuck with fire, dap_addict, get fucking burned.

[hyapet]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/19/americas ... index.html

Six people caught planning to kill the Brazilian president.

Connected to the former President.

Just another day in stable South America.

[dap-addict]

Holy fuck, dap_addixt, you are willingly throwing your life away by going to any of these places, nevermind one who's a literal crossroads between two or three different countries, all of whom go from crises to crises on a regular basis.

I think you've got dreams of beautiful beaches while lining up the most beautiful local talent to perform at super cheap rates. I think the reality that exists there is far different - or else many more people located within the porn industry would have done what you're trying to do.

I sincerely hope you realize you're flirting with prospects that will get killed.

So far Argentina was ok and that girl scouted seems like good asset.
But ofc I need many more girls and good working conditions in a safe set.
I'll give it another try early 2025 and than I will decide. Staying home in Europe and just flying in the girls I need is sure easier, but it's a costly alternative.