Piss is dead

[trueEroskaven]

Finally the piss content is dead in this site, it was one of it's special features, now it is slowly becoming just like a another generic porn site. I will totally miss Giorgio and Gonzo studios, thanks for all your hard work on this. And Yummy seems like the only real piss studio right now, but even them have slowdown the releases of piss scenes lately.

Anyone knows another site that produce something similar to the golder piss era of analvids/legalporno, for now its seems like GGGJOHNTHOMPSON Bestfans site is the only who has similar content and also some JAV porn movies as well.

[Chimpy.677]

It was the piss that killed LP/AV. Now if they make another hardcore porn site with new young and beautiful girls and no piss, prolapses and vomit, the site will be reborn again, I'm sure, but if they keep doing the same thing it will be the end for good.

[trueEroskaven]

It was the piss that killed LP/AV. Now if they make another hardcore porn site with new young and beautiful girls and no piss, prolapses and vomit, the site will be reborn again, I'm sure, but if they keep doing the same thing it will be the end for good.

Nah, it was the repetitive scripts, and the transformation of this site in almost a tube site, in which you see like 1000 of scenes daily. Actually after this BS, piss scenes were constantly in the top sellers even now it is like that with Erika Korti studio, so no, your statement is not backed in nothing more than your personal taste.

[Chimpy.677]

It was the piss that killed LP/AV. Now if they make another hardcore porn site with new young and beautiful girls and no piss, prolapses and vomit, the site will be reborn again, I'm sure, but if they keep doing the same thing it will be the end for good.

Nah, it was the repetitive scripts, and the transformation of this site in almost a tube site, in which you see like 1000 of scenes daily. Actually after this BS, piss scenes were constantly in the top sellers even now it is like that with Erika Korti studio, so no, your statement is not backed in nothing more than your personal taste.

Obviously it's going to be at the top of sales, if that's the only thing there is to buy, after that it's all amateur scenes and scenes re-uploaded from other sites.

If you look closely, LP/AV started its downfall since they started putting pissing, prolapses and vomit in almost all their scenes, after that since there are only a couple of actresses willing to do that, they started doing the same repetitive scenes with the same actresses, and this was not only because they were the only ones willing to do that, but because there were certain users obsessed with bringing the same actresses doing the same thing over and over and over again.

That obviously fed up the average user and they left. In the end only the guys who only like to see men piss and guys who want to see the same model a million times doing the same scene on a loop for the rest of eternity remained.

[trueEroskaven]

It was the piss that killed LP/AV. Now if they make another hardcore porn site with new young and beautiful girls and no piss, prolapses and vomit, the site will be reborn again, I'm sure, but if they keep doing the same thing it will be the end for good.

Nah, it was the repetitive scripts, and the transformation of this site in almost a tube site, in which you see like 1000 of scenes daily. Actually after this BS, piss scenes were constantly in the top sellers even now it is like that with Erika Korti studio, so no, your statement is not backed in nothing more than your personal taste.

Obviously it's going to be at the top of sales, if that's the only thing there is to buy, after that it's all amateur scenes and scenes re-uploaded from other sites.

If you look closely, LP/AV started its downfall since they started putting pissing, prolapses and vomit in almost all their scenes, after that since there are only a couple of actresses willing to do that, they started doing the same repetitive scenes with the same actresses, and this was not only because they were the only ones willing to do that, but because there were certain users obsessed with bringing the same actresses doing the same thing over and over and over again.

That obviously fed up the average user and they left. In the end only the guys who only like to see men piss and guys who want to see the same model a million times doing the same scene on a loop for the rest of eternity remained.

This site started like a decade ago, or at least they started the piss scenes with the classic "Piss My Ass Off" series with Sineplex studio, so the piss component, and the piss inside component actually, which is something very of a niche site, it was along since the beginning, so to say that started the downfall would mean that the downfall started 10 years ago?. Look this site was the only "mainstream" porn site that produced this kind of content, with no competition and that was naturally a good move in economic terms, even with credit card companies trying to ban this kind of content (i still remember those years between in which the piss was actually banned because of this). Now, with the only fans type of approach that is a lot more profitable for porn actresses in general, and it is true that latest scenes were incredible repetitive but not because of the piss content, but more because you were watching exactly the same scene, the same script and action over and over again but only with different girls, of course you have some notable exceptions and the first Giorgio scenes with piss action were a lot better as he actually mixed the sex and the piss action instead of having portions of piss action and portion of "normal" sex just to sell the dry and the wet version, something that all the studios started to do in the end, and finally the addition of any porn studios was actually the fall, because it started to attract fans like you who don't like piss but hey, like 95% of porn already do not have piss content, but of course for some reason if they don't like it then nobody should like it as well. This site should have maintained the way it was instead of trying to accommodate all tastes.

[Chimpy.677]

This site started like a decade ago, or at least they started the piss scenes with the classic "Piss My Ass Off" series with Sineplex studio...

Obviously you didn't read it right. I said that the debacle started when MOST of the scenes started to have piss scenes.

When the series you're talking about came out, the number of scenes that had piss scenes was a total minority, then as the years went by, practically all of the scenes had piss, except for a few particular cases.

[trueEroskaven]

This site started like a decade ago, or at least they started the piss scenes with the classic "Piss My Ass Off" series with Sineplex studio...

Obviously you didn't read it right. I said that the debacle started when MOST of the scenes started to have piss scenes.

When the series you're talking about came out, the number of scenes that had piss scenes was a total minority, then as the years went by, practically all of the scenes had piss, except for a few particular cases.

Yeah i know, that's why I criticized this wet and dry methodology to produce scenes and said that everything was better in the past, in which of course maybe we didn't have as much piss scenes as the later years, but they were a lot better than today. That is why i pointed out that the real fall was to try to accommodate scenes to be sold to all kind of tastes, it should have been a lot better for example if we got like 10 scenes in a day, half normal and half with piss, but not this BS of dry and wet, in the end nobody was enjoying this and with the passing days, months and years, i would say that this was almost unbearable for everyone.

[Chimpy.677]

This site started like a decade ago, or at least they started the piss scenes with the classic "Piss My Ass Off" series with Sineplex studio...

Obviously you didn't read it right. I said that the debacle started when MOST of the scenes started to have piss scenes.

When the series you're talking about came out, the number of scenes that had piss scenes was a total minority, then as the years went by, practically all of the scenes had piss, except for a few particular cases.

Yeah i know, that's why I criticized this wet and dry methodology to produce scenes and said that everything was better in the past, in which of course maybe we didn't have as much piss scenes as the later years, but they were a lot better than today. That is why i pointed out that the real fall was to try to accommodate scenes to be sold to all kind of tastes, it should have been a lot better for example if we got like 10 scenes in a day, half normal and half with piss, but not this BS of dry and wet, in the end nobody was enjoying this and with the passing days, months and years, i would say that this was almost unbearable for everyone.

Note that back in the day, there wasn't a single person who complained about the pee scenes, because they were well balanced on a market basis, i.e. a minority wanted pee, so a minority got pee. What happened next? All the scenes started to have pee, and not only that, then they added prolapses and vomiting, eventually the site went from being a global hardcore porn marketplace to just a small niche market.

[trueEroskaven]

i don't agree with you about the complaining, i've been here since the beginning of Sineplex and there were always people who complained about piss scenes but i totally agree about the balance, as i said before those year were actually better in general but the difference of opinion with you is this small detail of having scenes sold as dry and wet, the demise of wet content was precisely because this wet content was always done in a way that can be sold also as normal porn with it's dry version. I think a return to the balance on a market basis is a good idea (which i don't know if that was a minority, i don't believe that too much, because precisely in the end the piss content was more and more, and that is not something that should have happened if we were speaking about a minority in term of a business).

Now my bet is that AI will eventually destroy the incomes of porn actresses that are relying too much on "Only Fans" type of business and maybe they will have to come back to shoot porn and now that Giorgio and Gonzo are out of business, of course that will leave a hole in that niche that as i said before it has almost no competition. Maybe Disciples of Desire are the best ones to take that space or maybe another new studio, that doesn't end doing the same mistakes of the the dry/wet version studios.

[House MD]

Piss annihilated what LegalPorno took so long to build
These were placeholders filling the void of Analpiss content and cutting short any rough intense sex momentum
This is one of the main reasons Giorgio Grandi is next to Dorcel and his plastic sex one of the worst porn directors in History
Today, the absolute mediocrity of this website is no surprise

[trueEroskaven]

Piss annihilated what LegalPorno took so long to build
These were placeholders filling the void of Analpiss content and cutting short any rough intense sex momentum
This is one of the main reasons Giorgio Grandi is next to Dorcel and his plastic sex one of the worst porn directors in History
Today, the absolute mediocrity of this website is no surprise

I would say that LegalPorno was built thanks to piss and their niche addition to their mainstream way of doing porn, something that nobody in the industry was doing, and in every business, when you don't have competition and if you handle that correctly, it's going to be a boom. Now in the latest years this was not handled properly in my opinions, precisely because the studios that produced piss content were also trying to sold this content to people like you, that was the real mistake and they basically betrayed the people who supported this content for so many years and yes that turned Giorgio Scenes into plastic ones as you said and a total mediocre site.

[Chimpy.677]

I would say that LegalPorno was built thanks to piss and their niche addition to their mainstream way of doing porn...

It’s the exact opposite of that, you said it yourself, at first they did very few pissing scenes and the site became ultra popular worldwide, and that popularity was due to the fact that they brought in a lot of young and beautiful girls and made them have traditional hardcore sex. And as I said, that eventually changed, they started putting piss, prolapses and vomit in all the videos, and very few girls were willing to do that, so the amount of girls decreased enormously and it was just the same models repeating the same scenes, which is where we are today.

[jjwhite1985]

It's got nothing to do with piss/non-piss, anal-only/DP, or whatever individuals' personal preference for porn is. The nature of the industry has simply changed massively since the introduction of OF and other similar platforms, giving performers 100% control of their content and work environments, plus a shit ton more money for safer, more enjoyable work. It's very, very difficult for any studio to not only get the girls, but also pay them what they're asking for in the new market. There are obviously exceptions to this but when you apply this factor to the whole industry then it's not a surprises to see lots of "mainstream" studios struggling.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Well said to the above poster.
It is O F, and the rising costs of making porn...plus many girls not willing to do those things for the current going rates which has led to this situation.
It is the same in porn on a global scale. Porn worldwide has taken a big hit in recent years, even top American porn studios are struggling.

[dap-addict]

It is O F, and the rising costs of making porn...plus many girls not willing to do those things for the current going rates which has led to this situation.

Exactly!
Porn is actually turning into a luxury product from affordable commodity - or the remaining studios are able to shift production to lower income places like Brasil and Colombia. There the few still existing LP studios have been shooting dry content (NTP, Mambo) and wet content (Yummy). All of them sell fine in general. But all 3 of them base their content on demanding anal hardcore porn.

[SuperImp]

It's got nothing to do with piss/non-piss, anal-only/DP, or whatever individuals' personal preference for porn is. The nature of the industry has simply changed massively since the introduction of OF and other similar platforms, giving performers 100% control of their content and work environments, plus a shit ton more money for safer, more enjoyable work. It's very, very difficult for any studio to not only get the girls, but also pay them what they're asking for in the new market. There are obviously exceptions to this but when you apply this factor to the whole industry then it's not a surprises to see lots of "mainstream" studios struggling.

Well said to the above poster.
It is O F, and the rising costs of making porn...plus many girls not willing to do those things for the current going rates which has led to this situation.
It is the same in porn on a global scale. Porn worldwide has taken a big hit in recent years, even top American porn studios are struggling.

These were good posts and I agree pretty much, although it being safer/enjoyable is debatable as there have been issues seen already with the "Content Trading" that has resulted in folks getting cancelled or causing drama with accusations (STD tests, etc.). I think ultimately, these platforms allow them to get the majority of the money (including (re)selling the content directly for its lifetime) and working on their own terms. It will be extremely hard for a studio to compete with that platform. This, for better or worse, is causing the porn industry to evolve yet again. This is happening in the USA [and other countries] as well.

While the USA does have a few sites (including platforms like MV, OF, Cam sites, etc.) that do piss, it's still quite a niche thing. Most of your popular models, including the men, have gone exclusively to OF or one of its iterations. At this point, the usual studios are just used for advertising/promotions. Fans will eventually follow them to OF. From there, a parasocial relationship is likely to form between the model and fan.

A fan being able to directly interact with the model they like? This is something that a studio is likely never able to compete with. You may be able to chat with a model if she is starting out or relatively unknown. However, what most folks don't seem to realize is they eventually have a group of people that eventually help manage chats/DMs once they get to a point they can't realistically do it because there are so many people hitting them up. You even have some using AI chat bots. It gets even more fucked up since OF and the related platforms don't have a clean or manageable way to buy/sell content. You can't even tell if you are buying something in good faith (old/previously bought content or is the content truly as described?) as most of them don't have trailers or previews. I did always wonder why folks don't just use MV over OF (Doesn't necessarily allow piss content either), at least their stuff is more organized and open. I'm assuming OF gives more of the cut to the content makers.

The quality and diversity (sexual acts, kinks, and fetishes) of the content on those types of platforms are typically pale in comparison to a legit studio. However, you do have some that are catching up in terms of production value with that of a studio. You even see some studios collaborate for a joint effort with model(s) on those platforms.

I think overall, the usual porn we love will still be there - it just won't be dominating the output we have gotten used to. It's just going to have to compete with more platforms which means the market share will continue to be a battleground. It likely means studios that can fund these scenes or can take hits on diverse risks will stick around, but it'll be harder for the smaller scale studios to have a healthy cash flow. Unfortunately, I think models that are active for more than a few scenes doing studio work will be problematic and will be fewer in comparison to previous years. Let's not forget Porn, OF, etc. is just one of the many forms of sex work. I just have a feeling things will eventually become more private, exclusive, and/or locked behind platforms.

This forum unfortunately attracts a few types of users and is nowhere indicative of what is selling or not. Plus, you typically see users just annoyed/mad their fetish/kink isn't being met - then scapegoating (including conspiracies) on other shit.

[House MD]

Only Fans has absolutely NOTHING to do with Analpiss
There is almost ZERO double anal in OF so cut the crap and don't use Only fan as a pretense to hide your own incompetence and lameness it's shameful

Your business is zeroing to crap because of the mediocre quality of your production. Your content is filled boring retarded stupidities like drinking pee in a shot glass or a pint. Nobody jerks on such rubbish coz it's pathetic

I owe all the best Legalporno videos before 2010: almost a collection of 500 videos and they have ZERO Pissing nonsense

So quit the bullshit

[Anselm_Weinberg]

Nobody jerks on such rubbish coz it's pathetic

Obviously someone does or it wouldn't get produced for years on end. if anything, OF may have contributed to a further marginalisation and consequently consolidation of various "niche" things such as piss, hard anal gangbangs etc, increasingly meshing them together to create as big of a "niche" audience as possible. Obviously not everyone is going to be happy about the result and each would rather enjoy their own selective uncontaminated fetishes. But that may not be as much of a viable option nowadays as going for the current wet/dry version compromise.

[jjwhite1985]

Only Fans has absolutely NOTHING to do with Analpiss
There is almost ZERO double anal in OF so cut the crap and don't use Only fan as a pretense to hide your own incompetence and lameness it's shameful

Your business is zeroing to crap because of the mediocre quality of your production. Your content is filled boring retarded stupidities like drinking pee in a shot glass or a pint. Nobody jerks on such rubbish coz it's pathetic

I owe all the best Legalporno videos before 2010: almost a collection of 500 videos and they have ZERO Pissing nonsense

So quit the bullshit

You're exactly the type of forum poster SuperImp is talking about, you're just annoyed because you've got an obsessive dislike for piss content and have convinced yourself that if they got rid of it things would go back to how they were years ago. (I don't like piss either for what it's worth, I have wet scenes filtered out, but it's completely irrelevant to why LP is struggling.)

I don't like OF, never use it, I don't like the business model and it doesn't work for me as a consumer, but it has basically everything on it, depending on who you sub to, with the exception of the more extreme/niche stuff which is banned, like pee, fisting and prolapse, and that's where platforms like f@nsly, JFF, MV or a multitude of others come in. In fact, some pornstars have even made their first DP/DAP scenes exclusive to their OF. You'll also find most of the top LP girls also have their own platforms, whether it's OF or one or more of the others. It's something that's changed the ENTIRE industry, not just LP, so how you've managed to convince yourself it's got nothing to do with 3rd party platforms and it's all just because LP are making scenes that you, personally, don't like is beyond me.

[Mordecai35]

Piss is NOT the reason GG and Gonzo have either quit for the time being, or whatever. PIss content was ALWAYS in the best seller listings.

It's OF+ Pandemic + Russia fucking everything up.

The industry has been reset - PISS, if anything is finally almost considered normal porn - showing up in even Western porn again (HookUP hotshot), Facial abuse.

All I know is, I already miss GG's content.

[trueEroskaven]

I would say that LegalPorno was built thanks to piss and their niche addition to their mainstream way of doing porn...

It’s the exact opposite of that, you said it yourself, at first they did very few pissing scenes and the site became ultra popular worldwide, and that popularity was due to the fact that they brought in a lot of young and beautiful girls and made them have [b]traditional hardcore sex.[/b]

Nah i didn't say that, don't change my words, and it never was traditional hardcore sex, they started to add piss scenes with those same beautiful girls, i've been around here long enough to notice this, i was a piss sex fan long time ago, and piss scenes were never mainstream, maybe only on small german productions and max hardcore back then, and of course John Thompson, but legalporno and specifically Sineplex changed that, then Giorgio Grandi included piss action in his productions as well, he had a lot of experience as he came from Rocco Siffredi productions, he even did a piss enema to Ice Di, which was received by Annete Schwartz in the face in one of his Rocco movies (it was one Animal Trainer but i don't remember), and with plenty of hardcore porn productions around, LegalPorno put a step forward and added a differentiating element and that was piss action, and that was the boom of this site. But hey you can believe anything you want but the data is out there, just compare the years 2015 to 2018 top sellers, the piss ban ocurred between 2016 and 2017, so you won't find too much piss action there, now if you see 2015 (the last piss year before the ban) and 2018 (when the ban was lifted) you will notice how quick the piss action went to the top sellers, and for those 2 years you can't use the argument of "because almost all scenes had piss in it back then" because that simply is not true, maybe for the later years.

[trueEroskaven]

...he came from Rocco Siffredi productions, he even did a piss enema to Ice Di, which was received by Annete Schwartz in the face in one of his Rocco movies (it was one Animal Trainer but i don't remember)

Sorry just to clarify, it wasn't Ice Di (it was a movie from 2007, probably Ice Di was totally underage at that point, my bad), it was Isabel Ice and the movie was Animal Trainer 23, now the piss action was cut out from the movie, and there was like an European Release that had this.

[House MD]

Piss is the only reason this website is running down the crapper
You cannot have intense rough sex with piss interruptions every 10 fucking minutes
One has to be dimwitted to pretend not to understand that mere fact
There was no piss in the times of Linda Sweet, Simony Diamond, Alex Black and the actual FUCKING scenes were brutal, intense and rough
Now it's all retarded lil glass, slide and play, wet lingerie drips and other typical Giorgio retarded garbage like so
Can't wait to get this crooked and lame studio over with

[Anselm_Weinberg]

There was no piss in the times of Linda Sweet, Simony Diamond, Alex Black and the actual FUCKING scenes were brutal, intense and rough

Blatant lies. There are literally scenes containing piss mosf of these all while they were at the height of their popularity, in the fabled golden era of LP.

Just two out of many examples.
Linda Sweet
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/29049

Alex Black
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/29654

[number1s]

Indeed. Both Linda and Alex appeared in multiple piss scenes (as a moment checking their profiles would have shown). No doubt they would have appeared in more had it not been for the temporary ban.

If you can’t get your facts straight then it somewhat undermines your argument.

[Jocke]

Lovely!

[trueEroskaven]

Piss is the only reason this website is running down the crapper
You cannot have intense rough sex with piss interruptions every 10 fucking minutes
One has to be dimwitted to pretend not to understand that mere fact
There was no piss in the times of Linda Sweet, Simony Diamond, Alex Black and the actual FUCKING scenes were brutal, intense and rough
Now it's all retarded lil glass, slide and play, wet lingerie drips and other typical Giorgio retarded garbage like so
Can't wait to get this crooked and lame studio over with

It's really fine if you don´t like it, you already have the 90% of the porn industry producing the porn that you like, so i really don't understand your obsession with pointing everyone who likes piss porn and what it looks pathetic is to see how you bring lies to accommodate your arguments. Live and let live.

[isis666xxx]

is not about the piss

is about sadism and masochism

pissing on a girl is a sadistic fun thing

people that are afraid of sadism & masochism are snowflakes in denial

sadism & masochism is primal

[zaisafi]

Piss Drinking is Reality in Porn Industry, Many Studios Starting a Soft & Dry Scenes. But now 90% studio doing Wet & Puck Scenes. Facial Abuse, HookupHotshot, Tobi Dick, Erika Korti, BlackPayback, Yummy Estudio, GG, Ets....... Top Models Kristy Black, Anna De Ville, Jolee Love, Veronica Leal, Mina K, Nicole Black, Alexxa Vice, Ria Sunn,& many Other Starting With Dry Scenes But Now They Are Top Piss Drinker.

[House MD]

There was no piss in the times of Linda Sweet, Simony Diamond, Alex Black and the actual FUCKING scenes were brutal, intense and rough

Blatant lies. There are literally scenes containing piss mosf of these all while they were at the height of their popularity, in the fabled golden era of LP.

Just two out of many examples.
Linda Sweet
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/29049

Alex Black
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/29654

I repeat for retards that during Linda Sweet, Alex Black, Mira Sunset, Simony Diamond, Like Blackberry there were no pissing garbage such as Black pee matter, Beer festival, and dunno what other moronic Giorgio rubbish we see today killing any sex intensity

[House MD]

Piss is the only reason this website is running down the crapper
You cannot have intense rough sex with piss interruptions every 10 fucking minutes
One has to be dimwitted to pretend not to understand that mere fact
There was no piss in the times of Linda Sweet, Simony Diamond, Alex Black and the actual FUCKING scenes were brutal, intense and rough
Now it's all retarded lil glass, slide and play, wet lingerie drips and other typical Giorgio retarded garbage like so
Can't wait to get this crooked and lame studio over with

It's really fine if you don´t like it, you already have the 90% of the porn industry producing the porn that you like, so i really don't understand your obsession with pointing everyone who likes piss porn and what it looks pathetic is to see how you bring lies to accommodate your arguments. Live and let live.

Pee scenes for
Linda Sweet: 10 piss scenes out of 100 (10%)

Alex Black: 3 piss scenes out of 25 (12%)

and these piss scenes were mainly 2018 the period when GIO started obliterating Legalporno
The old sineplex SOS production that made the brand Legalporno had 10 pee scenes out of 300 scenes
It was a time when Legalporno was all about ball slapping noises on Sperma party, sperm overflowing assholes, ball slapping on buttcheeks noises, pussy and ass gapes, amazing standing DAPs, powerful DPs.. the glorious old were gold days
In some way, it's very satisfactory to see the new Giorgio, Gonzo, EKS production being trashed by market forces... it's just common sense that piss-promoted tip fucking led to poor sales figures

[Chimpy.677]

Piss is the only reason this website is running down the crapper
You cannot have intense rough sex with piss interruptions every 10 fucking minutes
One has to be dimwitted to pretend not to understand that mere fact
There was no piss in the times of Linda Sweet, Simony Diamond, Alex Black and the actual FUCKING scenes were brutal, intense and rough
Now it's all retarded lil glass, slide and play, wet lingerie drips and other typical Giorgio retarded garbage like so
Can't wait to get this crooked and lame studio over with

It's really fine if you don´t like it, you already have the 90% of the porn industry producing the porn that you like, so i really don't understand your obsession with pointing everyone who likes piss porn and what it looks pathetic is to see how you bring lies to accommodate your arguments. Live and let live.

Pee scenes for
Linda Sweet: 10 piss scenes out of 100 (10%)

Alex Black: 3 piss scenes out of 25 (12%)

and these piss scenes were mainly 2018 the period when GIO started obliterating Legalporno
The old sineplex SOS production that made the brand Legalporno had 10 pee scenes out of 300 scenes
It was a time when Legalporno was all about ball slapping noises on Sperma party, sperm overflowing assholes, ball slapping on buttcheeks noises, pussy and ass gapes, amazing standing DAPs, powerful DPs.. the glorious old were gold days
In some way, it's very satisfactory to see the new Giorgio, Gonzo, EKS production being trashed by market forces... it's just common sense that piss-promoted tip fucking led to poor sales figures

That's exactly what I'm telling them, these guys are so blinded by their fanaticism that they don't even notice the percentage of piss scenes they did and when they did it, which are precisely the two variables we're analyzing here.

AND EVERYTHING COINCIDES, THAT THE LP/AV DEBACLE OCCURS WHEN THEY STARTED MAKING ALL THOSE URINE SCENES CONSTANTLY, I'M NOT SAYING IT, IT'S THE INFORMATION THAT'S HERE ON THE PAGE ITSELF.

But they will never accept it, because as I already said, they care more about seeing naked men pissing than women, because you can put the most beautiful woman in a DP/DAP scene and all they're going to do is complain that they didn't piss on her or that the girl didn't stick her stomach out of her ass...

[Jocke]

Actually, pee scenes are the only survivors. Everything else sold less. This is market dynamics. LP is also getting competition. Disciples of Desire, Hotshot Hookup, even BZ has some. I am sorry but piss scenes are here to stay.

[Chimpy.677]

Actually, pee scenes are the only survivors. Everything else sold less. This is market dynamics. LP is also getting competition. Disciples of Desire, Hotshot Hookup, even BZ has some. I am sorry but piss scenes are here to stay.

"They are here to stay" and literally all the studios have already closed.

[Anselm_Weinberg]

Pee scenes for
Linda Sweet: 10 piss scenes out of 100 (10%)

Alex Black: 3 piss scenes out of 25 (12%)

and these piss scenes were mainly 2018 the period when GIO started obliterating Legalporno
The old sineplex SOS production that made the brand Legalporno had 10 pee scenes out of 300 scenes
It was a time when Legalporno was all about ball slapping noises on Sperma party, sperm overflowing assholes, ball slapping on buttcheeks noises, pussy and ass gapes, amazing standing DAPs, powerful DPs.. the glorious old were gold days
In some way, it's very satisfactory to see the new Giorgio, Gonzo, EKS production being trashed by market forces... it's just common sense that piss-promoted tip fucking led to poor sales figures

You just just fail to be objective and think everything has to be measured against the backdrop of your personal tastes. How ridiculous is the assertion that GIO would keep churning out piss scenes which cost slightly extra at a loss when according to you sales would have been much better without the piss component. Who in their right mind would spend more in production to return less of a profit? From all the information that's been shared there's nothing even indicating that GG quitting is due to sales figures being bad. You're clearly not interested in a measured and matter-of-fact assessment of the situation or getting to the truth, it's all about pushing your agenda.

[Chimpy.677]

Pee scenes for
Linda Sweet: 10 piss scenes out of 100 (10%)

Alex Black: 3 piss scenes out of 25 (12%)

and these piss scenes were mainly 2018 the period when GIO started obliterating Legalporno
The old sineplex SOS production that made the brand Legalporno had 10 pee scenes out of 300 scenes
It was a time when Legalporno was all about ball slapping noises on Sperma party, sperm overflowing assholes, ball slapping on buttcheeks noises, pussy and ass gapes, amazing standing DAPs, powerful DPs.. the glorious old were gold days
In some way, it's very satisfactory to see the new Giorgio, Gonzo, EKS production being trashed by market forces... it's just common sense that piss-promoted tip fucking led to poor sales figures

You just just fail to be objective and think everything has to be measured against the backdrop of your personal tastes. How ridiculous is the assertion that GIO would keep churning out piss scenes which cost slightly extra at a loss when according to you sales would have been much better without the piss component. Who in their right mind would spend more in production to return less of a profit? From all the information that's been shared there's nothing even indicating that GG quitting is due to sales figures being bad. You're clearly not interested in a measured and matter-of-fact assessment of the situation or getting to the truth, it's all about pushing your agenda.

I don't know if you noticed, but serial pissing fans destroyed GIO's career, since he started doing almost all the scenes with piss, his career as a director went to shit, that's the reality.
And this was instigated by a minority that lobbied for that to happen, in the end the only thing they achieved was that he ended up closing his studio and we were all left with nothing. And what I say is totally tangible, because before the arrival of those people, GIO had another way of making porn, he became known worldwide for traditional hardcore porn scenes and for bringing different young and new girls to porn.
Then with the arrival of certain people who through money encouraged him to change the way of making porn, everything went to shit, there GIO absolutely changed his way of making porn, since he ended up filming 1000 identical scenes with the same 3 or 4 models and focusing on pee, prolapses and vomiting.
What I say is totally objective, since we can see the change I say over time and we end up in today's debacle.

[dap-addict]

Then with the arrival of certain people who through money encouraged him to change the way of making porn, everything went to shit, there GIO absolutely changed his way of making porn, since he ended up filming 1000 identical scenes with the same 3 or 4 models and focusing on pee, prolapses and vomiting.

This is your conspiraton theory.
Fact is piss version outsold dry version with 99% of his girls in the good pre-OF times. So he started to shoot more piss naturally, than pandemia and OF came, girls started to shoot their own content, got independent of studios and worked seldom with them. Scouting new girls became difficult and needed a lot of investment GIO didnt want to make, also because experience had shown that his models got stolen. So his stable got smaller and smaller. And in the end - also tired of all the running a studio that had tuned into a porn factory - GIO decided to life a quieter life and re-sell his large back footage of 10 years instead.

[Chimpy.677]

Then with the arrival of certain people who through money encouraged him to change the way of making porn, everything went to shit, there GIO absolutely changed his way of making porn, since he ended up filming 1000 identical scenes with the same 3 or 4 models and focusing on pee, prolapses and vomiting.

This is your conspiraton theory.
Fact is piss version outsold dry version with 99% of his girls in the good pre-OF times. So he started to shoot more piss naturally, than pandemia and OF came, girls started to shoot their own content, got independent of studios and worked seldom with them. Scouting new girls became difficult and needed a lot of investment GIO didnt want to make, also because experience had shown that his models got stolen. So his stable got smaller and smaller. And in the end - also tired of all the running a studio that had tuned into a porn factory - GIO decided to life a quieter life and re-sell his large back footage of 10 years instead.

That is totally false, because smaller studios like VK, EKS or VG in the last years released a lot of new girls, the reason why GIO didn't bring new girls is for the simple fact that their biggest clients ALWAYS BOUGHT THE SAME THING REGARDLESS OF THE CONTENT, so why are you going to make an effort to bring new girls or improve the scenes if they are always going to buy them from you by always bringing the same girls and always doing the same thing... that's why the studio eventually had to close.

[Anselm_Weinberg]

You're comparing apples with oranges. I think that interesting quote below speaks for itself in a concise manner. Not to mention many GG customers are expecting girls to perform at a higher level when it comes to certain acts so from that perspective it may also make sense to rely on tried and tested models rather than inexperienced and awkward performers.

NRX was based in Russia, you dont need a genius to find new hot girls in russia when the money your offer represent high purchasing power and in average russian girls are much hotter than anywhere else. I know what I am talking about, I was there for years.

We dont have such girls in europe, period (and not even in usa, fuck nowhere)

All the rest are rotten and vulgar rants from someone that doesnt have 1/2 clue regarding what he is talking about.

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[Chimpy.677]

You're comparing apples with oranges. I think that interesting quote below speaks for itself in a concise manner. Not to mention many GG customers are expecting girls to perform at a higher level when it comes to certain acts so from that perspective it may also make sense to rely on tried and tested models rather than inexperienced and awkward performers.

NRX was based in Russia, you dont need a genius to find new hot girls in russia when the money your offer represent high purchasing power and in average russian girls are much hotter than anywhere else. I know what I am talking about, I was there for years.

We dont have such girls in europe, period (and not even in usa, fuck nowhere)

All the rest are rotten and vulgar rants from someone that doesnt have 1/2 clue regarding what he is talking about.

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You guys don't understand anything at all, people just want new girls and those new girls are obviously going to be inexperienced, that's literally what most people who watch porn want to see.

People got bored of always seeing the same models doing the same thing. LP became famous all over the world by bringing in a totally unknown new girl every week and giving her a hardcore DP/DAP treatment, that's just what people want.