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[Christopher_Williams1]

I heard the news. I had too much to say to reply to that thread in the general forum. I will do that later.

Out of curiosity, I have a few questions.

1.) Giorgio, how much money in profit do you consider would be worth your time in creating porn content? $100K, $200K, $500K, or $1M annually?
2.) Giorgio, would even the lower figure above be enough, if you only had to produce 4 scenes a month, 48 scenes a year?
3.) Community, how much are you willing to pledge a month in order for Giorgio to reach his profit target? For me, I can do $200 to $300 a month.

I once said that while it is freakin fantastic for us to get 2 scenes released during a particular day, it is bad for GIO's business. I would even expand on that further by saying that releasing daily is bad for his business. The average revenue per scene would get spread out between like 35 scenes for that month. Ouch!

And boy, as much as I love wet scenes, I can do without them. While I personally find those scenes very hot, I do understand that women might not enjoy them. And I'm the biggest cheerleader of women. Back during this studio's peak in 2022, when I was buying 12 scenes a month, I have to admit that I knew a really hot wet scene was going to come out any day now, so I spent all my money on those. I could have easily spent that money on dry scenes too. Nicole Black and Jessy have the hottest dry scenes and they are an instant buy to me. So yes, if expectations are lowered, we can buy dry scenes. Another thing I would like to add: watching a chick get pissed on, doesn't increase my odds of buying. Watching a cocktail scene where the chick finish the cup with a dry chin, that's when I buy. So basically, go all the way dry. Anything in between, doesn't move the needle much.

So, let's do some math. If you do 4 scenes a month, you can possibly expect this much revenue:

$10 x 1,000(volume) = $10,000 weekly
Release 4 scenes monthly = $40,000
There are 12 months in a year = $480,000

As a bonus, you could actually be looking at $520,000 (because there 52 weeks in a given year)

I believe after paying the stars and Pornbox, you can still have around $150K in profit. As a big seller and a big reason for Pornbox's success, I don't see why they wouldn't lower the costs they charge on your revenue. I believe Giorgio can also do well of having his own site, so that he has more control on how he promotes his content.

I used very, very conservative number for weekly volume. If you're not doing at least 1,000 in volume, then you might have a serious piracy problem and I might be willing to spend some of my time in helping you combat that. With 8B people on this planet, I'm sure you can have over 100,000 people very interested in the content and if we can just get 10% of them to buy at a very reasonable price of $10 in ticket value, you should well exceed your profit target.

Nevertheless, $150K a year and only having to do filming's every 3 months, I wouldn't consider that as too bad.

[nspriggs]

Assuming this is in response to Giorgio's retirement he's already gone on record saying that his site will continue to publish scenes even if he himself isn't filming them.

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[Christopher_Williams1]

Assuming this is in response to Giorgio's retirement he's already gone on record saying that his site will continue to publish scenes even if he himself isn't filming them.

viewtopic.php?f=96&t=88995&p=1311773#p1311773

Didn't have the time to read the entire thread, but wanted to reply back in a somewhat timely manner. I'm glad that the studio will continue, at least, in some capacity.

I did see the post about the Russians. For me, I rate the Russians up there with Czech and Italian women. They are amazing. I can name a few of my top favorites from Russia, though Russia being extremely populated like it is, does help. I don't understand why the sales would be bad, unless it's something more to it (like geopolitical tension).

[dap-addict]

I don't understand why the sales would be bad, unless it's something more to it (like geopolitical tension).

It's a very complicated matter discussed in many threads after Giorgios surprising post.
And for sure it's multiple reasons, one of them being geopolitical as well. Important for sure are also the price rises not only for TKS here but fees, electricity, rents etc. And OF and content sharing agreements by performers etc. You may also add Giorgio Grandi getting tired of all the logistic hassles and turning 50yo soon.

If you find time, please read back some of the threads, especially those where Giorgio posted recently.

As for Russian girls they sure are still some of the most beautiful, but GIO's Serbia move has shown work ethic problems with that new generation of Russian girls. Looks like this and bad sales of these scenes was the last drop which made Giorgio take a full stop he must have considered for a longer time already.

Now what have seen in last 2-3 weeks as possible GIO studio continuity is John Price, Nero & Maly shooting their own stuff in studio like here with KK:
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1722764
These 3 actors and cameraman could maybe build a new studio from the ashes of GIO/GLab etc. All 3 have become more active in last year, most notably Nero.

A side-option would be keeping that studio in Serbia because of easy, visa free Russian imports. Not sure how feasible that is as personal relations with a resident knowing Prague, Russia and Serbia would have to be really good. I see it as a chance still!

[Anselm_Weinberg]

. Now what have seen in last 2-3 weeks as possible GIO studio continuity is John Price, Nero & Maly shooting their own stuff in studio like here with KK:
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1722764
These 3 actors and cameraman could maybe build a new studio from the ashes of GIO/GLab etc. All 3 have become more active in last year, most notably Nero.

Been wondering whether this Rebel Rhyder scene hasn't also come to be as part of a similar arrangement.

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1563745

[Christopher_Williams1]

Thanks dap-addict for the reply.

I did FINALLY got around to reading the 3 pages. Unless I missed it, who would take over the studio remains unclear.

But anyhow, GIO was the guy that got me more interested in porn in my 30s than I was as a teenager. With all the good work he did, I hope he has a very financially-comfortable retirement and just maybe, somebody can take over with some of the same energy that GIO once had and also bring the studio back to its glory days. I do understand the market will dictate that more than anything else. Getting the women that are open for those types of scenes and then on the demand side, tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of customers on standby to compensate the studio for its great work.

Me personally, I've been enjoying the past couple of weeks. I was also lucky enough to grab Daruma Rai's BBC scene before it disappeared from the suggestions. I'm sure GIO is aware, but if not, that scene might not have done as well as expected because it literally disappeared after a few minutes. Many people unaware about that scene.

[Alan2008]

Thanks dap-addict for the reply.

I did FINALLY got around to reading the 3 pages. Unless I missed it, who would take over the studio remains unclear.

But anyhow, GIO was the guy that got me more interested in porn in my 30s than I was as a teenager. With all the good work he did, I hope he has a very financially-comfortable retirement and just maybe, somebody can take over with some of the same energy that GIO once had and also bring the studio back to its glory days. I do understand the market will dictate that more than anything else. Getting the women that are open for those types of scenes and then on the demand side, tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of customers on standby to compensate the studio for its great work.

Me personally, I've been enjoying the past couple of weeks. I was also lucky enough to grab Daruma Rai's BBC scene before it disappeared from the suggestions. I'm sure GIO is aware, but if not, that scene might not have done as well as expected because it literally disappeared after a few minutes. Many people unaware about that scene.

Do you mean this scene ? https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1762116 Who disappears in that scene ?

[Christopher_Williams1]

Thanks dap-addict for the reply.

I did FINALLY got around to reading the 3 pages. Unless I missed it, who would take over the studio remains unclear.

But anyhow, GIO was the guy that got me more interested in porn in my 30s than I was as a teenager. With all the good work he did, I hope he has a very financially-comfortable retirement and just maybe, somebody can take over with some of the same energy that GIO once had and also bring the studio back to its glory days. I do understand the market will dictate that more than anything else. Getting the women that are open for those types of scenes and then on the demand side, tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of customers on standby to compensate the studio for its great work.

Me personally, I've been enjoying the past couple of weeks. I was also lucky enough to grab Daruma Rai's BBC scene before it disappeared from the suggestions. I'm sure GIO is aware, but if not, that scene might not have done as well as expected because it literally disappeared after a few minutes. Many people unaware about that scene.

Do you mean this scene ? https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/1762116 Who disappears in that scene ?

That's the scene. I was trying to say that the scene went ghost mode after like the first hour, possibly impacting the sales by A LOT. Now, it's possible that after I purchased the scene, I am no longer able to see it in the store. That wasn't always the case, though.

[Anselm_Weinberg]

You have to keep in mind that due to the way the algorithm works every user gets to see different suggestions/top sellers etc.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

I would much rather that this community support GIO studios by asking and checking in to see if everything is okay?
They used to release 1 to 2 scenes a day.

Nowadays, we do not get any scenes at all on some days.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

You have to keep in mind that due to the way the algorithm works every user gets to see different suggestions/top sellers etc.

The algorithm must be a bit broken on mine...I used to see GIO and Gonzo studios as the suggestions/top sellers...but nowadays it is always coming up with EKS studios...even though I have purchased no more than 10 scenes from there, whereas I have probably accrued close to 10,000 purchased scenes from GIO/Gonzo (yes, I know Gonzo is now gone, and GIO is under new management).

I like the GIO and YUMMY studio style the best, then it is South American studios like Mambo Perv, and Lancelot/NTP/LTP (when they were doing things properly). I quite like Toby Dick too, but often feel he could have styled/glammed up the girls better.

[Christopher_Williams1]

I would much rather that this community support GIO studios by asking and checking in to see if everything is okay?
They used to release 1 to 2 scenes a day.

Nowadays, we do not get any scenes at all on some days.

Brother, those good ole days are GONE. If Giorgio can find a buyer, I'm leaning more toward new management decreasing the volume by A LOT. That's the most risk-free route. If only 6 scenes are released for a given month, all 6 scenes would likely be super profitable. And new management is getting a bigger bang for the effort placed.

As a customer who purchased around 12 scenes a month in 2022, I had to be very picky because so many good scenes came out. I wanted to be responsible financially, so because 12 scenes were kind of my max, I only grabbed the most intense scenes, like cocktail scenes with dry chins.

I could've also gotten satisfaction even if I didn't have so many cocktail scenes to buy. The new owner would have to lower expectations by volume output and what is asked of these beautiful women. Once the community understands, I'm sure dry scenes profitability would go up and the women can also be paid less, but the scenes don't put on the heavy mileage on them.

Also, I kind of pledged $200-$300 to help the new potential buyer stay afloat, but it doesn't look like anyone else is making that pledge. The community is important here. However, if I'm pledging that much money a month, I do expect at least 4 great scenes a month though.

[Christopher_Williams1]

You have to keep in mind that due to the way the algorithm works every user gets to see different suggestions/top sellers etc.

I wasn't talking about suggestions. I was talking about after I purchased Daruma's scene, I should have seen the scene on the Store tab, but instead, I had to go to the library. No big deal, but it had me wondering if it disappeared from other people's store view, which would have hurt her sales.

[Christopher_Williams1]

I would much rather that this community support GIO studios by asking and checking in to see if everything is okay?
They used to release 1 to 2 scenes a day.

Nowadays, we do not get any scenes at all on some days.

Another thing I would like to add is because GIO has a very finite number of scenes to release, it makes sense he releases them slowly. The studio would be worth more if it released just last week with an engaged customer base vs. a studio that hasn't released in months with an inactive customer base.

Also, as a bonus, we might not have to see the following depressing email right now (hopefully, a new buyer comes, so that we don't have ever to see it):