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M_sicas_Candido wrote:Giorgio, I noticed that besides me, several users have practically begged you to launch subscription plans (monthly and annual) with full access to the collection of scenes from the Giorgio Grandi studio. I guarantee you that anyone who obviously has a normal life will take several months to enjoy all the scenes you have released and will release. Imagine an affordable price, say US$29 per month: you could raise an excellent amount to profit and reinvest in the production of new scenes and discovering new talent.
As it stands today, your oldest scenes - the classic ones - have fallen into oblivion, because I imagine few (or no one) would spend their tickets on them (do new users know Sindy Rose, Jessy Jey, Moona Snake, Selvaggia, May Thai...?). You can resurface with strength by doing this. You will have nothing to lose.
The model through which AV/PB sells its scenes is completely outdated.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:I’m going probably to re-release the scenes I’m going to add to the membership.
M_sicas_Candido wrote:Giorgio Grandi wrote:I’m going probably to re-release the scenes I’m going to add to the membership.
I think this model of selecting only a few scenes to the membership has not been pleasing users (just my opinion).
davebowman wrote:I get that you don't want people to pay a monthly membership fee, download everything in a week, then cancel - but as you can limit the amount of downloads people are allowed each month
xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I am still hopeful that there is a way to save him from collapse...it really is just a sign of the tougher financial times, and the pressures of the porn industry.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:WE will re-release randomly old scenes and they will be added to the membership. Probably like 10 scenes/month + interview + backstages and probably some other stuff.
Price will not change, 10$/month + tax
dap-addict wrote:xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I am still hopeful that there is a way to save him from collapse...it really is just a sign of the tougher financial times, and the pressures of the porn industry.
I think an investment into good PR on more social media channels and re-viving the forum for the most loyal heavy consuming users combined with intelligent and fair import options from Colombia and Brazil could be a way out. Girls would stay 2mt and shoot a whole program of fetish and story based scenes, maybe even up to 30, and take a guaranteed attractive sum back home at the end. Girls would basically work for local COL/BRA rates, but perform much more and thus earn more money per time. Scenes and more diverse styling and storylines would have to be planned carefully and advertisement on social media and Pornbox forum needs to work.
xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I am still hopeful that there is a way to save him from collapse...it really is just a sign of the tougher financial times, and the pressures of the porn industry.
M_sicas_Candido wrote:Giorgio's filmmaking style also needs to remain. Some of the last scenes included in the collection have even worse quality than those from AGO. Follow the traditional recipe which has been worked.
justinwarren41 wrote:Giorgio Grandi wrote:WE will re-release randomly old scenes and they will be added to the membership. Probably like 10 scenes/month + interview + backstages and probably some other stuff.
Price will not change, 10$/month + tax
Awesome idea! How do we know which 10 we'd get for the 10$? Curious before I sign up
justinwarren41 wrote:How do we know which 10 we'd get for the 10$?
xxxVIPERxxx wrote:Without having to fork out tens of thousands of US dollars, very much like I did...
I guess-estimate that in about 10 years, the majority of Giorgio Grandi's scenes (up to this point) will be part of his monthly membership.
Personally, I would have preferred to pay for the premium porn at the point and time of release, if anything as a way of supporting the girls, the studios etc.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:WE will re-release randomly old scenes and they will be added to the membership. Probably like 10 scenes/month...
And there is nothing bad in that. As they always give worst scenes to the best girl, they dont deserve to run anymore, from long time ago.lightrider wrote:Now I'm sure, this plattform will vanish within the next 12 twelve months.
dap-addict wrote:1mt later: Re-release, but delete the same scenes for those who have bought them before! What a shitty thieve practice!Giorgio Grandi wrote:WE will re-release randomly old scenes and they will be added to the membership. Probably like 10 scenes/month...
Giorgio Grandi wrote:dap-addict wrote:1mt later: Re-release, but delete the same scenes for those who have bought them before! What a shitty thieve practice!Giorgio Grandi wrote:WE will re-release randomly old scenes and they will be added to the membership. Probably like 10 scenes/month...
Why you have to write so stupid nonsense?
I dont understand
All content in the platform are going through a review (ID, cast, tags ecc). So a content maybe disappear for some time during this period of time. Its something needed to be done, but the amount of content is massive
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Why you have to write so stupid nonsense?
I dont understand
dap-addict wrote:Giorgio Grandi wrote:Why you have to write so stupid nonsense?
I dont understand
This comment is about another post by me, and unfortunately Giorgio is right since it wasnt needed so many months later. Anyway, I was misinformed by local contacts, now I know better. Sorry again!
Just generally: Look Giorgio, as long as I feel treated fair as a loyal user and as long as I get impression girls are treated fair as well, I shall support your business.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:dap-addict wrote:1mt later: Re-release, but delete the same scenes for those who have bought them before! What a shitty thieve practice!Giorgio Grandi wrote:WE will re-release randomly old scenes and they will be added to the membership. Probably like 10 scenes/month...
Why you have to write so stupid nonsense?
I dont understand
All content in the platform are going through a review (ID, cast, tags ecc). So a content maybe disappear for some time during this period of time. Its something needed to be done, but the amount of content is massive
dap-addict wrote:they want us EU/US to pay more for the same that others get much cheaper.
dap-addict wrote:I'm talking about DAP fees for (imported) Latina girls, not scenes TKT prices.
dap-addict wrote:We'd better discuss this in private.
I can only add it was a typical gringo scheme, they want us EU/US to pay more for the same that others get much cheaper. Price they offer is cheaper than in Prague ofc, but it's not realistic as I learned too late. Anyway, I should have been quiet and sure not have suggested a coop tagged with a sum. Again I am sorry!
dap-addict wrote:liko19, you got that wrong really, and you'd have to read the original tread: Anyway, I suggested a global price for a 10 DAP booking of a Brasilian girl but my financial suggestion was based on wrong, much too high going fees for Sao Paulo. The girl read that original tread and some discontent started from her side it seems. I wasnt familiar with Brasilian porn prices than, meanwhile I know much better. I wont discuss Brazilian porn act fees here because it simply doenst belong here.
General problem is some users know bits from inside, but usually dont have full picture. Here my inside info was wrong on top, because it was the fee they locally dream about Gringos to accept, while local porn producers get the same much cheaper. Fees are really a very delicate matter! Its not about not being critical or creeping in ones ass, but fairness. Studios need fairness, girls need fairness and users as well. It was a mistake to put a figure based on a wrong São Paulo going rate, thats all I said.
Anselm_Weinberg wrote:xxxVIPERxxx wrote:Without having to fork out tens of thousands of US dollars, very much like I did...
I guess-estimate that in about 10 years, the majority of Giorgio Grandi's scenes (up to this point) will be part of his monthly membership.
Personally, I would have preferred to pay for the premium porn at the point and time of release, if anything as a way of supporting the girls, the studios etc.
But it has its perks to own the scenes indefinitely rather than renting them, so in the long run that investment will have been worth it.
lightrider wrote:Anselm_Weinberg wrote:xxxVIPERxxx wrote:Without having to fork out tens of thousands of US dollars, very much like I did...
I guess-estimate that in about 10 years, the majority of Giorgio Grandi's scenes (up to this point) will be part of his monthly membership.
Personally, I would have preferred to pay for the premium porn at the point and time of release, if anything as a way of supporting the girls, the studios etc.
But it has its perks to own the scenes indefinitely rather than renting them, so in the long run that investment will have been worth it.
That's what I thought too. But after Giorgio Grandi himself or Pornbox employees simply deleted hundreds of his videos, which I paid for dearly, from my and all other libraries in August 2024, I think differently. And with so much "customer orientation", who would even think of taking out a subscription?
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