LP Weekly Performers

[dpconnoisseur1]

I have been thinking of a way to phrase this to convey my thoughts but always wrap myself in circles but I will attempt again.

I fully understand that a constant influx of new models is the lifeblood of any porn studio but what is more important to paying porn consumers I always ask myself. If we could put a quantity on what we prefer as porn consumers would we rather have the revolving door of new faces or try and hold onto maybe not all but around some undefined quantity of performers that represent the studio to the fullest. These performers would be shown to us more than the revolving door of new faces. I've noticed that my porn consumption is slowing on LP not because LP is not the greatest umbrella porn company in the business but often because the constant new faces presented to us I'm not instantly attracted too and know it will probably be the only scene with her so I don't get attached the model so I don't buy. I would have no problem purchasing 3 scenes a day if it was performers and fetishes that I wanted but I digress.

Is it more important to have a ton of new faces constantly thrown at you or more proven special model and can you quantify your conviction to this viewpoint?

I'm not going to name current LP Models but I would define a proven special performer as someone like (Arwen Gold, Timea Bella, Linda Sweet, Cayenne Klein, Tina Hott, Goldie, Sandra Luberc, Lucie Wild, Lita Phoenix). These are models that love them or hate them at least one of them has left an lasting imprint in your mind. We all know that there are models that currently illicit the same reactions from us currently but they are so sparingly used. If we get to see a scene by them once a month I would say that fans of that model thought they were fortunate.

So the point of the poll and comments is to see what do we really prefer as paying customers, more of the revolving door of new unproven faces or more of proven special performers weekly. I know there is always that choice of I don't care I just want to buy porn scenes but I tend to think these are more casual customers that LP success means nothing to them.

[laura.]

Great topic DPC and something that o have been thinking a lot about lately. I have quite a bit to say on this but haven't got the time to write a full response now. In the meantime, I'll give you my answer.

3 special performers a week with 4 days of either brand new talent or newish performers eager to learn what it takes to become a special performer. I do have some reservations over the strength and depth of potential future special performers currently, an observation I have alluded to in the past. I'll expand when I get the chance.

Let's hear your thoughts guys xx

[widercvr77]

Interesting question. I rarely check out the newcomers, so went for option 5. I've got favourite performers who I always purchase.

But there obviously has to be a pathway for new talent - after all, the top performers of today were debutantes at one time. I rely on reviews from people whose opinions I respect (DPC, Laura, dap-addict) when it comes to checking new talent.

BTW, the latest addition to my favourites is Luca Bella - amazing debut for GG. IMHO, possibly the scene of the year. Must see!

[dpconnoisseur1]

Thanks for comments @Laura and widercvr77.

I chose the 5th option also my main reason is because I'm hoping to see those special performers at least twice a month instead of every lunar eclipse. The other reason is because I just have not been able to fall in lust over most of the new models. Don't get me wrong there has been new faces like Katrin Tequila, Crystal Greenvelle, Kristy Black and Kira Thorn that are stunning IMO but they don't appear frequent enough to get me out my funk. It is like I'm in a malaise waiting for more scenes with special performers to get me happy and interested in giving a new face a chance. Lately, If I don't consider the new face stunning or breathtaking IMO I have been skipping scenes and re-watching older scenes. I know everyone has different taste so LP will never be able to appease but there majority were the universally majority agreed upon special performers like Arwen, Timea and Linda that we all rallied behind. Also there are several one and done models that I don't understand why they have not been back. Prime example is Latoya Devi, beautiful face killer body and enjoyed a full Giorgio scene including balls deep anal, DP, DAP, DPP and TP yet we were only treated to one scene with her. I thought she would be a potential LP regular.

[avanfurwet]

Assuming 3 updates on most days = 21 updates per week, then option 5 is the only realistic choice IMO. And in reality a higher proportion of established girls would be needed.

I think we need a balance of fresh newbies and also developing talent and established stars. Like any good football club.

If established talent aren't called back for enough scenes, why would they even enter the biz as a newbie and why then develop their abilities and fan base and push their limits to get better?

I'm all for new girls coming in and getting a chance, but they need to be encouraged to learn and grow alongside established girls, and given chances for call-backs too.

And if all that LP did was showcase new girls, even if there are enough applicants, how many will be anywhere near good?
Not every pretty girl is a natural porn talent in front of a camera. I guess not too many Kira Thorns out there.

Would the directors even invest in teaching the newbies if they never saw them again because always tomorrow they must shoot yet another newbie?
I think shoots would degenerate into poor assembly-line castings scenes with none of the edge which makes LP special.

And LP isn't a castings site. There are enough of those. And very lame they are too.

[dpconnoisseur1]

^I agree with everything you said that is why I chose the daily option, option 5. I just think there are special performers that have come through LP revolving door that I want to see a lot more of. I don't want LP to become so obsessed by trying to find new faces that we don't continue promoting special performers.

[magizi877]

I voted for the fifth option. I prefer seeing familiar faces.
Which I hope is obvious to people who read what I usually post. (lol)

It's all about habits, I think.

In romantic relationships, something that helps you get together with that special someone
is being around her life on a daily basis. Create an expectation on her that involves you.
That will make you a familiar face to her, and that will help you immensely when you ask her out.

Honestly when you start exploiting how the brain works, it's almost like playing videogames with the mind of other people.

It's a similar story with porn.
I like gangbangs, and a website like hardcoregangbangs sound almost custom made for me, because that's all they do, I also like roughs sex so that's a plus.
But if somebody ask me, are you a recurring member there?
My answer is no, because they almost never have familiar faces, pornstars that I follow. Actually I rarely go there.

When you sell a product or service, you need to create habits in your costumers so they want to buy your product repeatedly.
2016 started really good for me, but around june I was struggling to spend my tkt. lol. STRUGGLING.
I was thinking, what the hell is happening... then came august and saved me. (haha)
When I thought of Gonzo studio 12 months ago, images of some of the best looking girls in porn sprung to mind, but now, it all seems too random.
No one girl seems to be the "gonzo girl" atm.
When I think Giorgio studio, Belle Claire comes to mind.
When I think Brazzers, Peta Jensen appears on my head.
Sineplex, I just have no idea what the fuck is happening to them.

But in the other hand, websites that always get different girls. are completely off my radar.
PerfectGonzo is the most tragic IMO. They used to be one of my favorites /sigh

ALSO, I think removing the coming soon section was a mistake.
Previews create hype. There is a reason why Hollywood movies, the video game industry, etc etc release trailers to keep people hooked.
Time and money is spend to great lengths, to keep people interested.
All you did accomplish by removing it, was that instead of getting high quality, official previews, we get amateurish pictures ruined by [spam]
([spam] ruins the quality of the pictures with the compression they do to all media content, to make it smaller.)
For the most part, we still know whats coming anyway. Give us high quality previews please.

[gongobyte]

Chose option 5. Especially for gonzo studio. This studio used to have the best lineup of girls in the industry. Now I find hardly any of their "new" girls to be attractive, massive drop in quality. Women like Susana melo I could see once per week and not get bored (as long as the scenes aren't all the same).

[avanfurwet]

^I agree with everything you said that is why I chose the daily option, option 5. I just think there are special performers that have come through LP revolving door that I want to see a lot more of. I don't want LP to become so obsessed by trying to find new faces that we don't continue promoting special performers.

^ Agree.

[avanfurwet]

I voted for the fifth option. I prefer seeing familiar faces.
Which I hope is obvious to people who read what I usually post. (lol)

It's all about habits, I think.

In romantic relationships, something that helps you get together with that special someone
is being around her life on a daily basis. Create an expectation on her that involves you.
That will make you a familiar face to her, and that will help you immensely when you ask her out.

Honestly when you start exploiting how the brain works, it's almost like playing videogames with the mind of other people.

It's a similar story with porn.
I like gangbangs, and a website like hardcoregangbangs sound almost custom made for me, because that's all they do, I also like roughs sex so that's a plus.
But if somebody ask me, are you a recurring member there?
My answer is no, because they almost never have familiar faces, pornstars that I follow. Actually I rarely go there.

When you sell a product or service, you need to create habits in your costumers so they want to buy your product repeatedly.
2016 started really good for me, but around june I was struggling to spend my tkt. lol. STRUGGLING.
I was thinking, what the hell is happening... then came august and saved me. (haha)
When I thought of Gonzo studio 12 months ago, images of some of the best looking girls in porn sprung to mind, but now, it all seems too random.
No one girl seems to be the "gonzo girl" atm.
When I think Giorgio studio, Belle Claire comes to mind.
When I think Brazzers, Peta Jensen appears on my head.
Sineplex, I just have no idea what the fuck is happening to them.

But in the other hand, websites that always get different girls. are completely off my radar.
PerfectGonzo is the most tragic IMO. They used to be one of my favorites /sigh

ALSO, I think removing the coming soon section was a mistake.
Previews create hype. There is a reason why Hollywood movies, the video game industry, etc etc release trailers to keep people hooked.
Time and money is spend to great lengths, to keep people interested.
All you did accomplish by removing it, was that instead of getting high quality, official previews, we get amateurish pictures ruined by [spam]
([spam] ruins the quality of the pictures with the compression they do to all media content, to make it smaller.)
For the most part, we still know whats coming anyway. Give us high quality previews please.

I have no problem with low quality previes on [spam]. Whets the appetite.

But I'm too lazy to create a [spam] avatar to stalk the girls automatically. Always seems a bit creepy to me.

And some like Ginger and Kira protect their tweets so clowns like me are left outside

I guess they want to increase their follower count and ban the worst stalkers, so more power to them

[Pimp84]

I have been thinking of a way to phrase this to convey my thoughts but always wrap myself in circles but I will attempt again.

I fully understand that a constant influx of new models is the lifeblood of any porn studio but what is more important to paying porn consumers I always ask myself. If we could put a quantity on what we prefer as porn consumers would we rather have the revolving door of new faces or try and hold onto maybe not all but around some undefined quantity of performers that represent the studio to the fullest. These performers would be shown to us more than the revolving door of new faces. I've noticed that my porn consumption is slowing on LP not because LP is not the greatest umbrella porn company in the business but often because the constant new faces presented to us I'm not instantly attracted too and know it will probably be the only scene with her so I don't get attached the model so I don't buy. I would have no problem purchasing 3 scenes a day if it was performers and fetishes that I wanted but I digress.

Is it more important to have a ton of new faces constantly thrown at you or more proven special model and can you quantify your conviction to this viewpoint?

I'm not going to name current LP Models but I would define a proven special performer as someone like (Arwen Gold, Timea Bella, Linda Sweet, Cayenne Klein, Tina Hott, Goldie, Sandra Luberc, Lucie Wild, Lita Phoenix). These are models that love them or hate them at least one of them has left an lasting imprint in your mind. We all know that there are models that currently illicit the same reactions from us currently but they are so sparingly used. If we get to see a scene by them once a month I would say that fans of that model thought they were fortunate.

So the point of the poll and comments is to see what do we really prefer as paying customers, more of the revolving door of new unproven faces or more of proven special performers weekly. I know there is always that choice of I don't care I just want to buy porn scenes but I tend to think these are more casual customers that LP success means nothing to them.

Top Topic DPC!

[Ass2Die4464]

Assuming 3 updates on most days = 21 updates per week, then option 5 is the only realistic choice IMO. And in reality a higher proportion of established girls would be needed.

Agree, I like some new girls too but a better balance needs to be found. I want to see more proven established girls showing there talents on LP (Isabella Clark, Blanche Bradburry, Nathalie Cherry)

When you sell a product or service, you need to create habits in your costumers so they want to buy your product repeatedly.

Agree, the new girls passing through LP are never seen again so why should customers care. These newbies are temporary distractions. This is directed more at Gonzo because Giorgio has Belle Claire, Gonzo needs another Timea Belle (cutesy hardcore) and Linda Sweet (animalistic hardcore). That was a such a potent combination.

[laura.]

^
Agree on finding the next Timea.

This specifically relates to Gonzo.

To add to what I previously wrote on this topic, my concerns surround the diminished pool of performers I would personally class as special. How many of these performers are currently around? With the number of retirements, career reassignments and AWOLs over the 12 months who is left? This is obviously all subjective but I can probably count on one hand those 'veteran' and proven performers we have at our disposal. Is there enough of these performers reliable enough and local enough to allow LP to film regular scenes? With the competitive nature of porn any performers who want to be pinned down to a certain studio (Gonzo) then the rewards need to be lucrative. What I'd personally love to see is the special performers to be offered contracts, similar in style to the deal Timea was offered (purportedly). Whether or not this is viable depends on the appetite of LP and the performers. For me this solution does the following:

1) Attracts new customers and revenue to LP and guarantees sales from us members

2) Creates a competitive environment that will raise the performance levels and inspire others

3) Provides a sustained income for the models.

All positives imho.

The 'veteran' girls I currently consider to be special performers are:

1) Susan
2) Olivia
3) Gina
4) Ria (hardly a veteran but 12 months plus)
5) Rebecca (as per Ria)

In addition to that there are a small number of more recent performers who are knocking at the door of being special:

1) Rebecca Volpetti
2) Anna De Ville
3)Kristy Black
4)Nicole Love

These choices are purely subjective.

Beyond that I can't really see anyone else out there who is at this level for me hence my reservations that even if it tried, LP just might not have that quality of performers to rely on week in and week out..

I will continue to support the studio because as someone said before all performers have to start somewhere, even a idol like Timea started out as a shy, awkward and technically poor performer. Every girl on here is a thousand times better than. I can ever be and I don't want this to be seen as a criticism of anyone's looks, desirability or performance but for me the recent crop pf performers is not as good as last year's or the year before.

There, I said it:(x

[avanfurwet]

^
Agree on finding the next Timea.

This specifically relates to Gonzo.

To add to what I previously wrote on this topic, my concerns surround the diminished pool of performers I would personally class as special. How many of these performers are currently around? With the number of retirements, career reassignments and AWOLs over the 12 months who is left? This is obviously all subjective but I can probably count on one hand those 'veteran' and proven performers we have at our disposal. Is there enough of these performers reliable enough and local enough to allow LP to film regular scenes? With the competitive nature of porn any performers who want to be pinned down to a certain studio (Gonzo) then the rewards need to be lucrative. What I'd personally love to see is the special performers to be offered contracts, similar in style to the deal Timea was offered (purportedly). Whether or not this is viable depends on the appetite of LP and the performers. For me this solution does the following:

1) Attracts new customers and revenue to LP and guarantees sales from us members

2) Creates a competitive environment that will raise the performance levels and inspire others

3) Provides a sustained income for the models.

All positives imho.

The 'veteran' girls I currently consider to be special performers are:

1) Susan
2) Olivia
3) Gina
4) Ria (hardly a veteran but 12 months plus)
5) Rebecca (as per Ria)

In addition to that there are a small number of more recent performers who are knocking at the door of being special:

1) Rebecca Volpetti
2) Anna De Ville
3)Kristy Black
4)Nicole Love

These choices are purely subjective.

Beyond that I can't really see anyone else out there who is at this level for me hence my reservations that even if it tried, LP just might not have that quality of performers to rely on week in and week out..

I will continue to support the studio because as someone said before all performers have to start somewhere, even a idol like Timea started out as a shy, awkward and technically poor performer. Every girl on here is a thousand times better than. I can ever be and I don't want this to be seen as a criticism of anyone's looks, desirability or performance but for me the recent crop pf performers is not as good as last year's or the year before.

There, I said it:(x

^ Respect for your expert opinions as always Laura.

But, no mention for Belle?

And FWIW IMO Crystal Greenvelle, Francesca Di Caprio and Kira Thorn are all outstanding prospects and can only get better. I hope they get offered more scenes too.

[laura.]

^
Gonzo only

Giorgio is inundated with talent, Belle, Kira and loads more

[avanfurwet]

^
Gonzo only

Giorgio is inundated with talent, Belle, Kira and loads more

^ Sorry Laura. That would be the line where you said "This specifically relates to Gonzo."

[hjohjole]

Overall i tend to be more in to new girls myself. It is very rare that i fall in "porn love" with a girl although it happens some times.
I very much like it the way things are right now with a lot of new faces coming through the door. And i don't really see it as a problem that many of them leaves after only a handful of scenes. Thats how it has always been in porn for as long as i can remember.

But that's not how thing used to be here on LP only a few years ago. And i think a big reason why they used to shoot a few girls so very frequently back then was not only because of their popularity but also more out of necessity. With a very demanding release schedule they simply did not have access to a big enough talent pool of hardcore models at the time. I mean come on.. can you mention another website out there that have the same model featured in 67(!) different scenes?
It took a long time and a lot of hard work for for LP to establish themselves, building a reputation, changing attitudes and developing cooperation with agencies etc to get where they are today.

Right now we are seeing the results with a greater model variety than ever before. The new girls we are seeing are not just compleat newbies, we are seeing many different types of girls at different levels of experience from all over Europe and even the US.

I personally think all of this is really great. And i think that if you are skipping out on a scene with a girl only because you feel that you don't ave enough of an emotional attachment to her then that is really your own problem. You are the one limiting yourself and you are the one that is missing out on some great porn.

[dpconnoisseur1]

Thanks for your list @laura, I have similar models on my list. To me the root of the problem is so many new passable models and by new I mean, new to LP not necessarily new to porn or young.

[hjohjole]

To me the root of the problem is so many new passable models and by new I mean, new to LP not necessarily new to porn or young.

Myself im not really experiencing any problem at all. So why are thees new models passable to you then? It is one thing to pass over a model for some specific subjective reason but another thing entirely to pass over a model just because she is new.

[dpconnoisseur1]

^No personality, chemistry and/or confidence with all that missing it leads to looking deeper at models. This when the flaws start appearing like if a spotlight is being shined on them. I'm not into just throwing a new piece of meat to the wolves mentality. Sure if I'm starving I'm going to eat it and not complain but when I've eaten better and I'm not starving I'll let you know I'm passing on this piece of meat. I'm glad you feel nothing is wrong but XXX said it himself that sales don't justify there current output. We are just left to wonder why that it is? I'm not any poorer or richer than 6 months ago and definitely not hurting for money but find my consumption way down. I assume because of the direction to have more passable revolving door models than the special performers we were spoiled with either because they are either hard to get or too expensive. I'm a Filet Mignon man myself but if I was starving I would eat the heck out of Sirloin steak.

I hope that answers your question and I'm happy you are content. To each his own.

[laura.]

^No personality, chemistry and/or confidence with all that missing it leads to looking deeper at models. This when the flaws start appearing like if a spotlight is being shined on them. I'm not into just throwing a new piece of meat to the wolves mentality. Sure if I'm starving I'm going to eat it and not complain but when I've eaten better and I'm not starving I'll let you know I'm passing on this piece of meat. I'm glad you feel nothing is wrong but XXX said it himself that sales don't justify there current output. We are just left to wonder why that it is? I'm not any poorer or richer than 6 months ago and definitely not hurting for money but find my consumption way down. I assume because of the direction to have more passable revolving door models than the special performers we were spoiled with either because they are either hard to get or too expensive. I'm a Filet Mignon man myself but if I was starving I would eat the heck out of Sirloin steak.

I hope that answers your question and I'm happy you are content. To each his own.

Nah, give me Sirloin or rump over overrated Filet any day of the week, much more taste. That's not a metaphor btw x

[hjohjole]

I'm glad you feel nothing is wrong but XXX said it himself that sales don't justify there current output. We are just left to wonder why that it is?

Thats no mystery at all. There have already been multiple of threads on the forum discussing it in great detail. The problem is that Gonzo studio dont really know how to make good scenes with new girls. They can make a decent enough job with veterans, but as soon there is a newbie in the studio they keep producing underwhelming results.
I can assure you that the average porn consumer are not skipping out on thees scenes because they feel that they need to have an obsession with the girl featured in order to buy. Most people are just looking for some good quality porn no matter if its with a seasoned veteran or a brand new girl. And Gonzo studio just seem unable to deliver this quality when it comes to new girls.

But notice that Giorgio do not have this problem. His #1 best selling scene on LP, the Sperma Party with Ria Sunn, he did when she was brand new. And just this week he released a scene with new girl Gabriella making her first (or maybe second) porno appearance. That scene is now rapidly climbing the list of best selling scenes of all time. And Gabriella herself is currently ranked the #15 most popular girl on the site, very shortly after the scenes release.
http://www.legalporno.com/model/list

Hopefully Gonzo will consider some good advice that has already been given to them about how they can improve their product, before throwing away everything they have achieved so far in terms of great model variety.

[avanfurwet]

Nah, give me Sirloin or rump over overrated Filet any day of the week, much more taste. That's not a metaphor btw x

^ I like rump too

[laura.]

It's the best and cheap also. 3 mins either side and it's good to go

[laura.]

And I love that kind of rump also mmmmmm

[dpconnoisseur1]

I can assure you that the average porn consumer are not skipping out on thees scenes because they feel that they need to have an obsession with the girl featured in order to buy. Most people are just looking for some good quality porn no matter if its with a seasoned veteran or a brand new girl. And Gonzo studio just seem unable to deliver this quality when it comes to new girls.

It has nothing to do with obsession but wanting a full performance scene like Mea Melone just released scene. A beautiful confident model, teasing, flirting and performing while showing chemistry with the males. I don't consider the tough task of talking a model into just being adjusted into one sex position after another great porn but for does who do to each his own. I fall more into this camp conveyed perfectly by Belle Clare.

Also, the ones who know me, know that Ive always been more into creative work. Nothing against bang bang girls, but lp is full of that :-)

I can watch the bang bang girls too but I'm not willing to pay a premium for it all the time. I need more than a model just laying there to be fucked and if it is indistinguishable model with nothing special but willingness to be fucked in a marathon session I'll simply pass.

Nah, give me Sirloin or rump over overrated Filet any day of the week, much more taste. That's not a metaphor btw x

Or maybe it is an inferior palate (or tongue). So maybe we should leave it as, "To each his/her own."

[avanfurwet]

It's the best and cheap also. 3 mins either side and it's good to go

That's a bit insulting. I can take longer than 3 minutes with a nice rump.