What's up with retired stars?

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Not here to reveal real names or social, just curious to know what retired stars are up to once they are done with porn.

Alexa Wild



is Croatian former pornstar, erotic model and wannabe politician. After retiring from porn business she joined the newly formed Party called Živi zid (ENG Live Wall) which started as movement to help people who were evicted by banks when loosing their houses to one of moderately successful Parliamentary Party. She has some initial success until the medias find out what she did before politics, forcing the Party to kick her out.

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Barbara Costa



She ended up being a nurse in Portugal.

[Anselm_Weinberg]

Interesting trivia about that Croatian pornstar whom I wasn't even aware of. That party seems to have been a bunch of wackjobs anyway.

[latina-girls-yes]

my all-time favourite 'what do xxx models do once they leave the business?' story

Ilona Anna Staller (born 26 November 1951), known by her stage name Cicciolina, is a Hungarian-Italian former porn star, politician, and singer

In 1964, at age 12, she began working as a model for the Hungarian news agency Magyar Távirati Iroda.
In her memoirs and in a 1999 TV interview, she claimed that she had provided the Hungarian authorities with information on American diplomats staying at a Budapest luxury hotel where she worked as a maid in the 1960s

In 1979, Staller was presented as a female candidate to the Italian Parliament by the Lista del Sole, Italy's first Green party.
In 1985, she switched to the Radical Party, campaigning on a libertarian platform against NATO membership and nuclear energy, and for human rights

She was elected to the Italian Parliament in 1987, with approximately 20,000 votes.
While in office and before the outset of the Gulf War, she offered to have sex with Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein in return for peace in the region

In September 2011, it was revealed that Staller was eligible for and would be receiving a yearly pension of €39,000 from the Italian state as a result of her five years in the country's parliament.
Reacting to the controversy raised by the news, Staller, who started receiving the pension in November 2011, when she turned 60, stated: "I earned it and I'm proud of it."

In 2012, Staller founded the Democracy, Nature, Love party. Its objectives included the reopening of former brothels, support for same-sex partnerships, a guaranteed minimum wage for young people, improvements to the judiciary, and the elimination of the privileges of the rich political caste

Staller has recorded several songs, mostly from live performances, with explicit lyrics being sung to a children's melody.
Her most famous song is "Muscolo rosso", a song entirely dedicated to il cazzo, which means "the dick" in Italian. Because of its extensive use of profanity, the song could not be released in Italy, but became a hit in other countries, especially in France

Cicciolina's single 'Political Woman' 1987 (in which Ilona celebrates her election to Italian Parliament)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8TVLpg8257c

Staller married American artist Jeff Koons, with whom she collaborated on a series of sculptures and photographs of them having sex in many positions, settings, and costumes, which were exhibited under the title 'Made in Heaven' at the 1990 Venice Biennale. In 1992 they separated, partly because Staller refused to stop making porn

Staller is an accomplished chess player, having learned from her father while growing up in Hungary. In July 2021, it was announced she would demonstrate her ability in an exhibition match, taking on four top players simultaneously

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilona_Staller

the thing i think i love most about Ilona and her life story, is that if you were to approach a film company with a script of her life story, they would all reject it out of hand saying "no, we couldn't possibly make a film based on a story like that, because no one would ever believe it!"

to have lived an utterly extraordinary life: isn't that everyone's dream (openly or secretly)?

'Living Legend' is an overused turn of phrase, but in Ilona's case i think it's more than well-deserved

(as a side thought, i wonder if Giorgio - who i'm guessing would have been a teenager at the height or her xxx career - was ever a fan?)

[fister2]

Cicciolina made quite controversial stuff back in her porno years.

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Barbara Costa
She ended up being a nurse in Portugal.

nursing is an extremely noble profession. anyone who has ever had to spend any time as a hospital inpatient can only admire their compassion, thoughtfulness and patience. when you can't do anything for yourself due to being incapacitated through illness or injury, they are there for you. often the first people you ever see in your life and the last. cherish them

my maximum respect goes out to Barbara and her new career

[latina-girls-yes]

Cicciolina made quite controversial stuff back in her porno years.

a bit before my xxx time, so i only know of her through her legend. but extremely beautiful.

she actually reminds me a lot of another model called Wiska (Ukrainian) who was one of my absolute favourite models circa 2010-2015 (for 21st Sextury and other studios). She and Ilona have very much the same face and physique

Wiska also got involoved in politics:

"Anastasia Hagen looks just like any other mother. She whisks her giggling 1-year-old son around the room on a toy car, only stopping to gently break up a scuffle between her two older boys, aged 10 and 4.

But Hagen is no ordinary mom. The young woman, a frail 27-year-old with pale blue eyes, is famous in her native Ukraine for starring in dozens of pornographic films. She has since made headlines by reportedly becoming the first porn actress to ask -- so far unsuccessfully -- for political asylum in the European Union.

Hagen, formerly Gryshai, fled to the Czech Republic in February 2011 after Ukraine opened a criminal case against her on charges of producing and distributing pornography.
She faces up to seven years in jail under tough new laws on pornography that came into force in 2009.

Ukrainian social services have also threatened to take her sons into care on the grounds that her connection with the pornography industry makes her unworthy to raise children."

December 21, 2012 https://www.rferl.org/a/anastasia-hagen ... 05298.html

hopefully Anastasia got her Czech citizenship in the end, and she and her family are living happily ever after

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hopefully Anastasia got her Czech citizenship in the end, and she and her family are living happily ever after

Not sure about her Czech citizenship, but Anastasia formerly Wiska works it seems quite successfully as a personal trainer in Prague. She sure has a right to stay in Czech, maybe based on political grounds, also for her activities against Putin visit some years ago as Femen activist, if I dont remember wrongly.
Anyway, she doenst hide at all!

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Per her IG, Mia Manarote still lives in Pilsen, CZ with her son. She apparently has a sugardaddy/BF taking her on many vacations the last couple years - China, Greece, Cyprus, Turkey, Paris, Rome, Austria, Barbados, St. Lucia.

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I have no problems with girls who used to do hardcore/extreme porn.
There is nothing wrong with a previous career.

I remember Taylor Rain, a famous American porn star becoming a successful real estate agent after her porn career finished.

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Speaking about success...

Savanna Samson quietly left porn to pursue her interest in Wine and now runs her own winery- La Fiorita . Still looks good.

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Aleska Diamond

Published a book about herself. Appears regularly as a guest and presenter on TV chatshows in Hungary under her real name. Has appeared in Hungary's version of Fear Factor, and in a recent endurance type gameshow called Exatlon. Runs a successful business training performers with body flexibility and in Aerial Acrobatics and has represented her Country in Aeriel Acrobatic competitions winning a silver medal in their championships in 2016. Has her own athetics clothing line...

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More evidence and examples to show that there is a great life once people decide to retire from their porn career...

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some retires. Golden age

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Barbara Costa
She ended up being a nurse in Portugal.

nursing is an extremely noble profession. anyone who has ever had to spend any time as a hospital inpatient can only admire their compassion, thoughtfulness and patience. when you can't do anything for yourself due to being incapacitated through illness or injury, they are there for you. often the first people you ever see in your life and the last. cherish them

my maximum respect goes out to Barbara and her new career

Thanks for posting this…1000% true. I would add anyone who’s worked with nurses shares this regard completely.

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That picture has the best looking girls of all time in porn. You have Suzie Diamond and Lucy Lee and Bambi.

Then you have Angel Dark and Jane Darling.

What in the world is Lucy Lee up to? Someone had posted a photo of her a while back where is like drinking some beer at a backyard or something like that and she looked good.

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Bella Baby

She has a steady BF and had a baby son. She works as a hair stylist in Prague.

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If someone was to ask me, would I date and then marry, and have a family with someone who used to work in porn...
My response would be absolutely, as long as they are a good person, are good to the family, etc.

Lots of great examples of people who have a good life once they choose to retire from porn.

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I got to wonder. Are there porn fans where if they found out their favorite pornstar is now working as a hair stylist, they go there and ask to get their hair done even though they are a guy? I just read that these salons where it's mostly women that work and have female clients, males are allowed to go to a woman's salon. I got to imagine there would be guys that do that to get close to a retired pornstar? I mean, the ex pornstar is literally touching your hair and everything. I know that doesn't sound good in a way but go to assume some guys might do that?


Now obviously they would get in big trouble if they touched the woman inappropriately and I could imagine some guy doing that while fantasizing while getting their hair done? But if they just think of it all In their mind, they could just get those thoughts in their mind?

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Foxy Di


She is a DJ in Russia and travels Europe with her show.

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I got to wonder. Are there porn fans where if they found out their favorite pornstar is now working as a hair stylist, they go there and ask to get their hair done even though they are a guy? I just read that these salons where it's mostly women that work and have female clients, males are allowed to go to a woman's salon. I got to imagine there would be guys that do that to get close to a retired pornstar? I mean, the ex pornstar is literally touching your hair and everything. I know that doesn't sound good in a way but go to assume some guys might do that?


Now obviously they would get in big trouble if they touched the woman inappropriately and I could imagine some guy doing that while fantasizing while getting their hair done? But if they just think of it all In their mind, they could just get those thoughts in their mind?

As long as you are professional and respect the hairdresser-customer relationship. Sure, you can go to a hair salon run by women (maybe an ex-porn star), and have your hair cut by them...

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Now obviously they would get in big trouble if they touched the woman inappropriately and I could imagine some guy doing that while fantasizing while getting their hair done?

No, normal guys with a sense of self-awareness obviously wouldn't do that. What the fuck am I reading LOL.

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Dina Jewel today works a model performer.

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Well I mean imagine a guy with a fantasy and then touches the girl because he was in a dream.

However, what about a guy that goes to a hair salon just so the ex pornstar would touch their hair and them? I mean I know that doesn't sound good but a guy would easily be aroused by that. Of course they have no not show it. Like imagine getting an erection during it.

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However, what about a guy that goes to a hair salon (...)Of course they have no not show it. Like imagine getting an erection during it.

There is Gina Sweet aka Candi Peach who was active 2011-15 with basically little scenes, about 1 per month, and suddenly retired after working about half a year @ Gonzo contributing 4 DAP than. If memory doenst fail she worked as a hairdresser for some time after porn retirement. Its a usual option for getting some money without much training needed or at least was than in Czech Rep before all that Barber Shop craze.

They usually concentrate on clients hear and head and dont see all happening in their trousers from the position they work in.
Sure also Gina!

Gina Sweet fotoshot @ sz648 DAPbreakin' released in Nov'14.

[paulyshoresituation]

Okay so she works as a hairdresser. What if some guy who knows she is a retired pornstar go there to get their hair done by her? Like when she is touching his hair and all that, he could be imagining so many things in his mind and would get aroused. Of course that person can't let her know. Do you think there are guys who do that such as go to the hair salon just for that?

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Okay so she works as a hairdresser. What if some guy who knows she is a retired pornstar go there to get their hair done by her? Like when she is touching his hair and all that, he could be imagining so many things in his mind and would get aroused. Of course that person can't let her know. Do you think there are guys who do that such as go to the hair salon just for that?

probably. it seems a bit desperate and even a bit creepy (which is why i think you are getting pushback on this line of comment Paul, though if it's something you are curious about then you have a right to raise it here)

personally i wouldn't do what your are proposing the hypothetical porn fan in your example might do. i might think and even fantasize about the idea, fantasies are cool and we all have them (probably why we come here, to see our fantasies acted out on screen).

but the public sphere is not the xxx sphere and no one should confuse the role an xxx performer performs in a scene with who she is in her private life (private means private! eg none of anyone else's business beyond what a model chooses to make public), and therefore not to allow any fantasies they have about performers to affect how they interact with a performer (should they ever meet one in real life).

unsolicited physical contact with any woman (no matter what her history) is wandering into the world of sexual offending, and i doubt any judge or jury will give much consideration to a defence of 'but she appeared in an xxx film or films'.

self-respect and self-control maketh the man, amigos

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Yes that is what I mean. If you go to an ex pornstar who is a hairdresser just so she could touch your hair and that, it seems creepy. The thing is if they have no idea that you know they were a pornstar, it kind of makes it even more arousing.

The thing is if you meet that ex pornstar who is a retired pornstar, she would be touching your hair and all that. You could fantasize porn movies she did but you have to maintain your composure though since if you get hard, it would be noticeable. You have to make sure to not touch her as well and I think it would be hard to do this if you start fantasizing. Do most agree on that?

So I'm curious if there are guys that do something like this but make sure they don't do anything inappropriate.

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You could fantasize porn movies she did but you have to maintain your composure though since if you get hard, it would be noticeable.

I dont think she would notice really. Anyway it happens with all kind of hairdressers all the time. Its not a great think, just a natural reaction But doing it because you know she's an ex-porn star would be very creepy imho.
A friend of mine goes to a dog hair dresser with his pet to an ex-porn girl, but she's just really good with pets and thats all. I told him she's an ex-porn girl, he didnt even know and he sais he doenst care at all.

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Could you mention the name of the ex pornstar?

Well your friend probably isn't into porn that much so that is maybe why? I assume she isn't that hot most likely?

Yea I know if you go to a hairdresser because you know she was an ex pornstar, it does sound creepy. But I got to assume people have done that? The thing is you have to not let them know you know they are a pornstar. But if they are doing your hair, I can imagine someone who likes the retired pornstar would get aroused easily.

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Well your friend probably isn't into porn that much so that is maybe why? I assume she isn't that hot most likely?

He actually liked her scenes. She's hot, no question either. She just retired very fast and is forgotten by most users.

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Aria Giovanni was huge in the first few years of the 2000's, and was even a minor celebrity marrying the guitarist of Marilyn Manson-John 5.





She continued to focus on her site and softcore material, and later divorced. However, she got back on her feet, quit the industry, went back and finished school, had a child and got her doctorate in Entomology. Works full time as an Entomologist in California for the government. Good luck to her!

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Anyone knows what Anna Lacey or Lucy Lee up to?

Someone mentions Anna Lacey is a travel agent years ago and when I checked LinkedIn, there seems to be someone with her name and her picture? Shows a lot of connections she has on LinkedIn but not sure if that is her or not?

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Sex is just sex. For some people it is also a form of work.
Should the girl decide to leave the sex industry, there are still many options available...as you can see many examples of this from above.

Leave the girls be, and let them enjoy their porn retirement to focus on whatever avenues they wish to choose, that makes them happy.

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Evelyn Lin



has a pretty respectable "normie" job working in tech now.