Giorgio Grandi wrote:no, we are not getting anywhere
what move 95% of the girls are the money.
I repeat: the money.
in the past years DAP or DAP with pee would provide a good paycheck, totally worth for the model
with time passing, that paycheck increased, to a point that in most of the case is was not worth for the producer to pay it... (but this is not the point).
in the meantime, models have started generating money on their own to a point that.. that paycheck, even the most disproportionate, has become les and less interesting. It's not a problem with the sexual act, but with how much it is paid for.
If a producer could pay 4000-8000$ for a DAP with pee, and offer 3 scenes in a week, he would get models that you cant believe.
the issue is that to pay that prices it's not sustainable
if tomorrow all models would lose their own incoming because it became illegal to do self production or so (just an absurd example), you will have a the queue of girls available to do what they have always did, for a reasonable price.
the change (shift) is in the porn market, not in whats models are willing to do.
the 2 year with covid, with almost no one shooting (except me and a few others) forced the members of the industry to create a different market... so models shifted and created a real parallel industry. covid sure that a process that would have taken 10 years took place in two
I hear what you're saying - but if you dig into the basis of your argument a bit more - you'll recognize you're actually backing up everything I'm saying.
Okay - so, supposedly, $4,000 to $8,000 would bring in models we couldn't believe. That's what you said. So, in order to just cover "the model costs" - if you charge, say, $20 for that scene, you would need 400 people or so to purchase it to break even. That's ... not a fantastically high number by any means. For the health of the brand - you'd think that any producer would pay this gladly at least twice a month. If not ... like, all the time.
So - okay - we'll accept that $6,000 is the benchmark to get "models we couldn't believe."
But ...
As you pointed out, on OF, the girls can make
considerably more. Now - I know this by definition isn't
every performer - but there are
more than a handful that can make seven figures, if not eight, per year. If not seven per month.
That's where all the models went. They have it in their mind, thanks to the West's inability to be even slightly honest with women in general, that they are the true 11/10's out there. Almost
every girl thinks this. And if, yes, some of them might realize deep down, maybe they're only a 7.5 or an 8, there has been enough of a trade off of their living standards (respect in society (what one is recognized for), prospects to marry, ability to hold an opinion on anything that doesn't involve people immediately thinking "butthole girl has an opinion" (perfect example: Mia Khalifa)) that "making it big" is too attractive of a lure.
It's a lot easier to go into Death Valley with high hopes for finding a ship when the boat your rode in on has already sunk.
So, the ego prospect of being recognized as this great beauty, and then having the funds available afterwards to pretty much live a life of luxury,
is the very reason girls join OF to begin with.What essentially happens is that this creates a cut-off, more or less, for 99.99% of the
truly gorgeous and hot 8/10's and higher. They have just enough to be able to dupe themselves into thinking that they can make it big. And, to be absolutely fair, many 8 out of 10's actually have. The road isn't just littered with stories of failure (even though they are the most abundant) but of just enough success stories to make it seem like
yes, I can achieve this too.Offering $6,000 to someone who considers themselves capable of generating hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars is the same as trying to convince a CEO to stand behind a counter at a McDonalds for $15 an hour.However - where things balance out a bit on the scales - is that these millions of 8 and 9 out of 10's, and yes, even some 10's themselves - struggle to find an audience in an oversaturated market place. Try to honestly stick out when you're competing against
millions of different stores, all selling, more or less, the exact same (albeit customizable) goods. So often, they in turn, will head to the more traditional porn network knowing that, if not entirely made of an older generation (therefore richer) of men, there are great audiences to be found at each and every one of the porn houses still in existence.
Okay - great! So - they're now willing to shoot porn.
It's here though, where the model, acting as both her own agent and publicist, starts to take things into consideration. Namely: ladder rung breaks.So, a super hot model might be willing to a DP, if their beauty won't exactly bring in huge amounts of people with just regular sex or anal alone. But again,
it is absolutely here that she will ===NOT=== be willing to do DAP. And why?
Because that act now belongs to the freaks and mentally-precipiced that don't mind drinking huge jugs of piss and throwing up into each other's mouths and winking at the camera when the guy who's asshole they're eating out left a little surprise nugget with the chicken tenders.
They won't have a career anymore capable of generating tons of cash when they've essentially chain-sawed through their entire ladder and now, sitting in front of a camera will generate next to no interest.Do I want to see a chick that already has a video where she's glugging piss and taking a DAP sit in front of a camera and play with her clit for a bit? Chances are - most likely not. And that's not just me.
The ship's sailed too far at that point. A girl who's done DAP can still be hot on camera just doing normal stuff. If I'm used to seeing someone glug piss - I'll show up to that stream with a jug emoji - just for the laughs.
So - yeah - I don't think absolutely incredible models would be willing to do it for $6,000 anymore, or even $20,000, thanks to mental image most of their audience now has of DAP automatically belonging with wet hair and people throwing up everywhere.
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:14 pm
EKS Bukarest resolved to a minimum of 4 DAP booking, with a desired workload of up to 10 scenes for the best talent. These 5+k Euro to be gained make a trip worthwhile, but 2 DAP only attract still some big names like Nuria or Betty, but cant be sustainable on the long run.