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I think these are good girls. Nothing wrong with being sexually active and sexually open.

Of course she can!
If she does it in porn it's just a job assignment as an actress.
If she does it in private she's sexually active, adventurous and sometimes just has bigger needs than one guy only can meet.

She’s a slut for life. The feeling of getting multiple dicks stuffed in her holes at the same time is not something she’s going to forget, and might be something she craves again in her personal life.

xxxEVOxxx wrote:I think these are good girls. Nothing wrong with being sexually active and sexually open.

I loved, I'm impressed by these girls. Anal talent and self confidence to walk into a room of strangers and just rock it. I admire them, no name calling

I think that it's often not about sex at all, but about making a living. So for me they are not whores, but women who often make the best of bad circumstances.

dap-addict wrote:Of course she can!
If she does it in porn it's just a job assignment as an actress.
If she does it in private she's sexually active, adventurous and sometimes just has bigger needs than one guy only can meet.

Veronica Avluv said she has been gangbanged by 7 men in private life, not sure if it's real but she must be a whore in real life.

i was gonna reply to this and to ajjustiniano in timea bella's thread

but timea bella's thread got deleted so na

No. They're whores for life. Period.

ajjustiniano wrote:Is there any instance in which a woman can be gangbanged and do a legalporno scene without being marked a whore by society for life?
Does the decision at 18 years old for some of them define them for the rest of their life?

Being honest, no.

In the current society still existing the stigma about a sex worker (women). Reverse opinion about the male studs, they are like heroes and lucky men for have the opportunity to fuck a lot of women.

Every one can collect or read a thousand of opinions outside from a porn forum/porn environment, the majority of them have a negative opinion or view about the pornstars. A lot of these people are quite hypocrit, they have bad opinions but are the first who watch porn.

Sadly they only have the respect of those who work in porn and, of course, of the porn customers who pay and watch their works.

These women have "balls of steel" for do what they do, knowing the consequences that can carry be sex workers.

For me they are like super heroines: The girls know that they have an extraordinary passion and skill for sex and, one day, they choosed a cool name, and always that their presence is required, they are dressed super sexy with hot outfits that don't let too much imagination for the viewer, even that, they always show an extraordinary selfconfident, being brave and decided, and, throught their power (sex), they accomplish make happy and feel pleasure to the viewer with their amazing performance that they worked a lot.

Thanks to ladies like them, sexually active and open minded that find a make a living in this bussiness diserve my hole respect and grateful.

ajjustiniano wrote:Is there any instance in which a woman can be gangbanged and do a legalporno scene without being marked a whore by society for life?
Does the decision at 18 years old for some of them define them for the rest of their life?
ajjustiniano

Depends on what you mean. Realistically, assuming the girl is just a regular person and doesn't go on to become a celebrity where someone would publicize her past, then 99.99% of society aren't going to have any idea that she's done one or more gangbangs for LP.

If you're talking about a situation where everyone magically knew this chick had shot gangbangs, then that's probably a reputation that would be hard to shift. Although, I think a lot of people still wouldn't care.

If a man slept with thousands of sexy women in his lifetime, and was regularly involved in 3somes, 4somes with other ladies...he would be worshiped as a handsome stud...

Therefore, NO...absolutely not. A woman can do a gangbang and is not a whore.
From a personal perspective, I would have no issues with having a relationship/a partner who has had sex with multiple partners before, and done gangbangs.

Good point of the double standard. I can't really answer this question since I admire the girls for having the ability get gangbanged in front of camera. So I see it a great personal trait to do this stuff not a negative

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:If a man slept with thousands of sexy women in his lifetime, and was regularly involved in 3somes, 4somes with other ladies...he would be worshiped as a handsome stud...

I think the main difference I see is that it is easy for a woman. Before they hit the wall, a woman can enter a bar and get out with 3 guys in 5 min if she wants. For a man, unless you're to top 0.000000001%, it is impossible. I think it is the main point. It is easy for women, and people don't like when it is easy (that's why people don't feel it is coureagous for a 2 meters 120kg guy to hit a 1m60 45 kg man). If a man can sleep with thousands of amazing women in his life he must be exceptional (porn actors don't count).

Also I heard a theory that SDTs are way more vicious for women than men, that explain guys prefer "clean".

Now I don't say those reasons are good, but I think they could explain why there is that difference in judgment

I think if men were more selective and not ready to fuck anything that says yes to them, I think the double standard will probably vanish

Prostitution is the selling of sexual favors to someone. If it is sex for sake of sex only, regardless of what the act is, it can be considered lust but not prostitution.

justinwarren41 wrote:Good point of the double standard. I can't really answer this question since I admire the girls for having the ability get gangbanged in front of camera. So I see it a great personal trait to do this stuff not a negative

ryukenmaster666 wrote:I think the main difference I see is that it is easy for a woman. Before they hit the wall, a woman can enter a bar and get out with 3 guys in 5 min if she wants. For a man, unless you're to top 0.000000001%, it is impossible. I think it is the main point. It is easy for women, and people don't like when it is easy (that's why people don't feel it is coureagous for a 2 meters 120kg guy to hit a 1m60 45 kg man). If a man can sleep with thousands of amazing women in his life he must be exceptional (porn actors don't count).

Also I heard a theory that SDTs are way more vicious for women than men, that explain guys prefer "clean".

Now I don't say those reasons are good, but I think they could explain why there is that difference in judgment

I think if men were more selective and not ready to fuck anything that says yes to them, I think the double standard will probably vanish

Answering both of you.

RyuKen, the situation that you explained is something obvious.

A man is less selective and say "yes" if see something that take him attention.

Definetly an average woman well dressed and with a good make up can make magic in a bar or in a disco, this have been always in this way.

But i don't think that this is a part of the reasons about the main discussion.

Justin and Ryuken, the bad perception of a lust woman and of a sex worker is something ingrained in our culture.

I will try to make a summary but the first instances where the society considered these things bad behaviours come from the origin of the religions, even before.

A man could have several wifes and concubines, this wasn't considered something bad but if a woman was a prostitute, had an affair, sex before marriage, divorced..was considered blasphemious, even with several punishments, repudiated, mutilated or even worst.

We must think that all these acts, for luckyly, quite diluited in time are gone in the majority of the societies but the bad perception of do these things by a woman still remain, don't forget that until the 80s, even a little more, the society was more conservative yet, is crazy but it's hasn't been long yet to remove that perception.

A lot of men haven't good opinion of woman that had a lot of sex with different men, still remain the idea of a "pure" woman.

As i said, this can be more explained but i think can be useful to understand why, outside of the industry, the majority will think that a lady that make this content or even is a lust woman that has a lot of sex out of a relationship still being considered whores or devaluated women.

I believe it is very complex, and since it is like that in all (or almost all, surely it exists culture where it is totally ok, just like there are flying fishes) there is maybe some biological stuff at play too.

Now I am for some kind of middle path. If a women had 1000 guys before me, sure I wouldn't be interrested. But I don't ask her to have 0 body count neither.

Ideally, no woman should be considered any less for indulging in however much sexual activity she sees fit and as someone else has pointed out, there are some serious double standards at play when it comes to a man acting the same way and society is still at large hypocritical about this even in supposedly "emancipated" areas of the world.

Now aside from the cultural and historical causes, I think envy also plays a serious role on an individual level in some cases, particularly with insecure men wanting to have a guaranteed "supply" of women without the risk of falling short of the perceived competition in other men. Usually these types don't own their insecurities and justify their behaviour by appealing to some sort of higher authority, such as tradition, nature etc. (as opposed to "true believers" in these things, which undoubtedly exist, too)

Anselm_Weinberg wrote:Ideally, no woman should be considered any less for indulging in however much sexual activity she sees fit and as someone else has pointed out, there are some serious double standards at play when it comes to a man acting the same way and society is still at large hypocritical about this even in supposedly "emancipated" areas of the world.

Now aside from the cultural and historical causes, I think envy also plays a serious role on an individual level in some cases, particularly with insecure men wanting to have a guaranteed "supply" of women without the risk of falling short of the perceived competition in other men. Usually these types don't own their insecurities and justify their behaviour by appealing to some sort of higher authority, such as tradition, nature etc. (as opposed to "true believers" in these things, which undoubtedly exist, too)

I agree. I think the sheer honesty of the public nature of the act means she is an actress. I think the honesty level is crucial here. Probably far more honest than if you were seeing someone & she was off with someone else behind your back, in secret. I think that would be more hurtful. Just an opinion. At least you know where you stand.

These are the best girls. Maximum respect and admiration for them.

DAP_LOVER wrote:Veronica Avluv said she has been gangbanged by 7 men in private life, not sure if it's real but she must be a whore in real life.

I have read in another forum that Veronica Avluv left her porn agent and switched to the prostitute world. The reason is her severe drug addiction.
Her son complains a lot about it

Sergio8317 wrote:These are the best girls. Maximum respect and admiration for them.

Agree 100%

I admire them and it turns me on that they do filthy stuff with the whole world watching

i admire these kinds of women too...I consider them to be good girls

At least in my experience, women are more open to anal sex, double penetration, and group sex with multiple men now than they were 15 years ago. Three of my male friends and I have had a couple of 4on1 encounters with different girls. They were all willing to do DP (and one did DV). None wanted double anals yet, though, LOL.

Maybe just coincidence but the ones we did gangbangs with had zero interest in other women/orgy type situations. We brought up maybe adding more girls because we thought they might be nervous being the only woman with 4 guys, but that's what they wanted.

Can a woman can do a gangbang DP and not be called a whore?

yeah, really easily. just stop calling women who enjoy their sex 'whores'. that's it. be the change you want to see.

ajjustiniano wrote:Is there any instance in which a woman can be gangbanged and do a legalporno scene without being marked a whore by society for life?
Does the decision at 18 years old for some of them define them for the rest of their life?

Is there any instance in which a man can rob a bank without being marked a thief by society for life?
Does the decision at 18 years old for some of them define them for the rest of their life?

Simply, why to judge to anyone about what they like? No matter are they males or females. So, those females are not whores.

Competitor3241 wrote:None wanted double anals yet, though, LOL.

DAP isnt really for private life, it's a porn fantasy!

justinwarren41 wrote:

Sergio8317 wrote:These are the best girls. Maximum respect and admiration for them.

Agree 100%

I admire them and it turns me on that they do filthy stuff with the whole world watching

As a porn viewer during all these years, of course I respect and admire the women who work as pornstars.

Thanks to them I and you can enjoy this magnificent discipline that is the adult movies, including the different genres available.

I've been showing my fully respect and gratefull for those women who decide to be pornstars and make a living with it, showing with this way their sex talent with an incredible attitude, confident and passion.

There aren't nothing better that enjoy the sex without taboos with professionals of sex that are an open mind about perform a lot of different perveted and hardcore sex acts in a studio to satisfy the pervert desires of their audience.

Happy and proud to support them.

I like watching porn, especially when it's my favorite actresses, but I would never want to start a family or be in a relationship with a girl who fucked in a gangbang in real life, off camera, and even more so I would not want to have anything in common or serious with a porn actress, except maybe to fuck her when I have money and I want it

porn actresses are the same whores, only a different name, so that society reacts more softly, but a whore is a whore and nothing else, in our time there are different vacancies to earn money and not lose respect and female pride, this is especially painful in Eastern Europe, you can work in a factory, as a saleswoman, do nails and eyelashes in the beauty industry, but if you are a whore or a porn actress, this is a stigma, not everyone will want to be with you, and after 30-35 years, not everyone will want to start a family with you knowing what you did before

you have to be a fucking cuckold to live with a whore, a cuckold man is a loser who doesn't respect himself, I feel sorry for them, especially when cuckolds are proud that their wives/girlfriends are fucked by others

That stigma isn't some God-given thing that shouldn't be questioned, though. Even if you may be correctly describing reality in society the way it is today it doesn't necessarily follow that it's rational or the way it ought to be. What makes a woman inherently worse just because she at some point in her life let some guys put a penis inside her? I don't think you'll be able to answer this without resorting to moralising or some such. There's really nothing particularly more honourable in doing any of these other jobs, in the end it's all about earning a living. If you don't want to be in a relationship with a woman who's still doing sex work at that time that's a opinion that can be respected, but acting as though they're tainted for the remainder of their lives what they have done in the past is really just petty bourgeois moralising. It's the old idealisation of female purity nonsense.

I do not impose my opinion, I just say, but since I myself come from Eastern Europe, I am from Ukraine, I am 27, I know what kind of youth there is now and I know my social circle and communicate with older people, yes, everyone has a different opinion on this matter, but I am absolutely sure that 7 out of 10 men will not want to be with a whore, create a family, but will only want to fuck her, only if he likes her, her figure and face, because there are such porn actresses that it is better to jerk off than to fuck some ugly woman

there are cases when guys/men fall in love with prostitutes, but this is of course strange, yes, she is the same person, but the understanding that many guys fuck her every day and cum wherever they want for money, for me personally this is disgusting, maybe this is my thinking and upbringing, but there are many like me in Ukraine, Russia and Belarus

maybe in Western Europe the values ​​are different, LGBT and other bullshit, equality, etc., but in our countries it works a little differently, although in theory we strive for this, but not everyone likes “Western values”, especially when children at school are told that you, a guy, can feel like a girl, it’s fuck up

Sure, I wasn't doubting that this is the majority view. I just kind of want to get to the root of things and ask why these are the predominant views and whether they're really all that rational at the core. But having grown up in society as it really exists, we can't change what we like or may feel repulsed by. I just don't think there's anything natural about it.

I am neither a liberal nor a conservative and don't advocate for these type of identity politics you mentioned, I find them extremely silly, divisive and counter-productive. As for Western or Eastern values, I think deep down they're a false dichotomy and I don't pick sides in the culture wars. For me personally it's like choosing between two equally bad options. I also don't moralise in either direction so I respect your opinion on this matter.

isis111 wrote:you have to be a fucking cuckold to live with a whore, a cuckold man is a loser who doesn't respect himself, I feel sorry for them, especially when cuckolds are proud that their wives/girlfriends are fucked by others

nacho vidal's wife was franceska jaimes

and it turned him on to see her fucked and doing nasty things

i think he said that if i remember

Anselm_Weinberg wrote:What makes a woman inherently worse just because she at some point in her life let some guys put a penis inside her?

worse just by stupid society that is afraid of even stupid nipples

being a whore is a masochistic gangsta thing

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