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Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 11:19 am
by dap-addict
LTP (Latin Teen) hasnt released anything since 20 days. :(
Did this ever happen before?

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 11:24 am
by dap-addict
LTP started as an off-spring after a rift with Natasha Teen, but seemed to coop closer again recently. They had always the better more woodproof studs, although mainly white ones. Option would be that NTP takes them over and doubles production. Maybe even with director David Ram, who has a complete other filming style.
But does Natasha Teen have the capacity?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 4:00 pm
by misangrenegra2
As i can remember, yes, they stopped once the releases for a while, not too much but almost a month if i'm not wrong.. will see.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 7:55 pm
by xxxVIPERxxx
There are all sorts of reasons why they might not be releasing. I do my best to contribute and post on the forums every day, but even for me...there have been a few periods where I have not posted much for 1-2 weeks.

Sometimes, it is just life matters, personal problems, or plainly extreme busyness that stops things temporarily.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 11:59 pm
by justinwarren41
Rouse Black scene released yesterday. It was a long gap but not overly worried. So many Colombian (and Venezuelan) hotties that are ready to do hardcore. No issues on the supply side

NT takes larges breaks too and then will release a bunch (recently released 6 videos within 8 days!)

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:56 am
by justinwarren41
And 1 minute after I posted this, 2 more LTP releases. Crisis over!

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:17 am
by dap-addict
Nothing new, no new production: The Lunita Galactica scene is a fraudulent re-release of LTP431! :mad:

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:59 pm
by justinwarren41
LTP478 and LTP479 are new. The "new" Lunatica one is longer by 4 minutes, weird though

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:05 am
by dap-addict
justinwarren41 wrote:LTP478 and LTP479 are new. The "new" Lunatica one is longer by 4 minutes, weird though

LTP478 is the same as LTP325.
But strange enough they managed to kill their original BDSM DAP with Rousse Black not only from their sales list but also from my Library. :mad: I always bought all new Rousse Black DAPs, I had it 100% but now its missing. :mad:
Lunatica scene is another cut, thats all.
I dont see them producing new scenes.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:17 am
by dap-addict
Also today's LTP482 with Emily White has been already released as LTP414 a dozen weeks ago. They even put a "new" tag on it, but real fans dont get fooled.
Such a blantant fraud, while they dont release new scenes! :mad:

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:18 pm
by feltrough
sad day, we get less and less new scenes lately. recycling old stuff and compilations etc.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:26 pm
by xxxVIPERxxx
dap-addict wrote:Also today's LTP482 with Emily White has been already released as LTP414 a dozen weeks ago. They even put a "new" tag on it, but real fans dont get fooled.
Such a blantant fraud, while they dont release new scenes! :mad:


Re-releasing old scenes, and rebranding them as new is extremely poor practice.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:39 pm
by RedBaron
feltrough wrote:sad day, we get less and less new scenes lately. recycling old stuff and compilations etc.

I have the same feelings. It's like years ago when Gonzo was runing out of stock. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 4:57 pm
by jzabel19571964
NatashaTeenFilms is doing the same thing. The latest release featuring Hannah Hayek was originally released over 2 months ago and subsequently removed from the website and re-released 2 days ago. When the original release was removed from the website it also apparently wiped out previous purchases of the scene because I purchased this scene when it originally came out and now it is missing from my purchased library of scenes. Be careful, it looks like they are trying to fool people into purchasing a scene twice.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:34 pm
by ExtremePornFan
It seems to me there are many better ways they could have gone about increasing their profit margin. They have the lowset prices of all the studios.

They could try a price increase.

If they made a good offer on a subscription like 20-downloads a month and put hundreds of catalog titles in their member area, I bet they would instantly have 1000+ members.

Instead of trying to find some reasonable legitimate way to make extra money off the same product, they just make an attempt to deceive their customer base. I suspect they have already done irreversible damage. Porn Box is not far behind for allowing it.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:54 pm
by YuriyProneBone
I only hope Lancelot starts releasing longer videos. Those 22 minutes shorts are not enough to properly fuck a girl in the butt.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 12:23 am
by jzabel19571964
LTP has not released an actual new scene for almost a month, just re-releases, and now NatashaTeenFilms has slowed down production considerably as well with no new gangbang scenes since June 1 (the Hannah Hayek scene released on June 13 was released previously over 2 months ago). This all seems quite alarming. If these 2 studios are lost it doesn't bode well for the future.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 11:47 am
by surbhigurgaon
The Colombian adult film industry is facing a crisis primarily due to changes in legal regulations, economic challenges, and the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. The Colombian government has introduced stricter regulations on adult content production, aiming to address issues such as exploitation and illegal activities within the industry. These new regulations include more stringent licensing requirements and increased oversight, which have made it more difficult for producers to operate.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:56 am
by visigoth2020260
hello everyone.

LTP and its washed out environment, no colors and its reappearing models. That alone can kill anyone.



Now NTF and Lancelot opted to fix their cameraman situation by employing the fish eye lens, a very smart move that will help in their dismay.

Also using some not so amusing studs leaving the best out, as i have-not seen that very promising stud
joseph brown in a wile, https://pornbox.com/application/model/103131 is he on a sick leave cause he is the best at NTF.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:07 am
by visigoth2020260
Come and Watch my fan version trailers @ https://t.me/+qtkKbhEQb-03MTk5

Xvideos ghosted my top upload, them fuckers. I guest they did not needed me.
I can no longuer trust them. So come and visit me on telegram.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:34 pm
by jzabel19571964
At least it looks like LTP has stopped releasing scenes labeled as new when they are actually re-releases. Unfortunately they have haven't released any new scenes for several weeks and NatashaTeenFilms has also slowed down production considerably as well with any one new gangbang scene since June 1. Are the Colombian/Latin porn sites dying too? This is all very unfortunate especially after losing Gonzo and NRX. In the past I typically purchased 1-2 scenes per day, now I am down to 1-2 scenes per week with the lack of quality new scenes down considerably. All so very disappointing.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:52 pm
by hyapet
I almost feel like I cursed it.

The whole time NRX is melting down and EKS is disappearing, I'm like, "Well, even though the girl's aren't Russian, the South American studios are really saving the day for PB-AV.

Just like with Sasha Paige/Eva Barbie/Lina Shisuta for NRX studio, Natasha, Yummy, and Latin had some absolutely incredible girls doing some pretty insane stuff size wise. The Hayek sisters were a phenomenon, and Jenny Pretinha is one of the prettiest black girls in porn - ever!

So ... of course it would go down like this.

When I really think about it - I don't think it's any small coincidence that the OF boom and governments world wide beginning to crack down on the traditional studios are happening at the same time.

I think that, outside of America, the rest of the World might actually give a shit about how they look. When you're the Emporer, if you decide to have no clothes on, there's nothing anyone can really do about it. But, other places where business might be trickier to secure, image matters a lot more. Especially when crime might be an issue people have with investing.

When you've got professional studios running through the still-in-high-school crowd and making them perform some (let's be honest here) really disgusting sexual acts - the whole thing comes off as - "Does ... no one care?"

And while it's a stretch to land that directly in the lap of the politicians of a country - the image of being a greasy, sexually deprived, and morally vacant people who, even at a tremendously young age, have no problem doing these things with a smile for a (relatively small) handful of dollars ... and ... yeah ...

Put another way - "What benefits is this bringing us?"

So - now that everyone is distracted with OF - what better time for the places who don't want this to be a part of their image to crack down on these businesses? You know - the could-be criminal organizations taking almost-underage girls into posh apartments most people couldn't afford so seven black guys who weigh 20 times what the girl does can put the equivalent of a meter of cock into her at the same time.

Why would the government, especially in countries where some people might be conservative (re: everywhere), not want this? I wonder ...

So ... it was nice while it lasted. Maybe Natasha, Yummy, and Latin are just figuring out the new rules so they can still abide by them and produce content. But, considering what they were paying the actresses themselves, chances the wiggle room to make it worthwhile might not exist. And, if the government is indeed serious about cracking down on this, targeting the wallet is the easiest way to make sure the problem eliminates itself (re: the studios just close up shop) rather than making a lot of noise about it and drawing attention to it.

Man ... the South American studios were pulling a tremendous amount of weight for the site. That's not to say everything else is horrible or anything like that - absolutely not.

But, like NRX and EKS before them, this will be definitely felt.

Anybody remember what a producer said, like ... six or seven months ago?

That 2024 will be the best year ever for Analvids?

Man ...

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:24 pm
by M_sicas_Candido
Ok... Could anyone with more information explain what the Colombian and Russian governments are really fighting against? Traffic of women or just pornography for some other reason? If they want to combat human trafficking by imposing sanctions on traditional studios, forgive me, this seems like a very lazy way of handling the situation and not at all effective. This is an authoritarian action. Otherwise, they should present concrete evidence to the judiciary that there is some relationship between traditional studios and human trafficking.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:27 pm
by jzabel19571964
I appreciate your insight and agree completely. The incredible young hot talent that these studios were able to find including the I agree, phenomenal Hayek sisters, as well as Camila Cooper, Elina Sansd, Katherin Moore, Ruby Walker, Megan Petite, and others over the past 1-2 years is almost unmatched with possible exception of NRX with one of my all time favorites Sasha Paige and others. I wonder whether we are seeing the slow demise of AnalVids.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:24 pm
by maxymax
As for re-releases and fraudulent practices, N F Studio is the worst! They stopped production long back and even to this day they are re-releasing the same old scenes multiple times with different pricing each time. Though, we the veteran members familiar with such practices notice it right away, it is still annoying and misleading waste of time and feed on the home page!

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:41 pm
by maxymax
dap-addict wrote:Also today's LTP482 with Emily White has been already released as LTP414 a dozen weeks ago. They even put a "new" tag on it, but real fans dont get fooled.
Such a blantant fraud, while they dont release new scenes! :mad:


LTP482 is from Anal Teens, which is basically a fradulent spinoff of LTP. Almost all of their scenes are re-releases from LTP. Most times they are shortened and some of the scenes are even flipped! They also have re-releases some of NTF older scenes. I would never ever give them my business though they have mostly lower pricing for the same scenes from LTP or NTF

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 6:22 am
by hyapet
jzabel19571964 wrote:I appreciate your insight and agree completely. The incredible young hot talent that these studios were able to find including the I agree, phenomenal Hayek sisters, as well as Camila Cooper, Elina Sansd, Katherin Moore, Ruby Walker, Megan Petite, and others over the past 1-2 years is almost unmatched with possible exception of NRX with one of my all time favorites Sasha Paige and others. I wonder whether we are seeing the slow demise of AnalVids.


You're absolutely right - Ruby Walker is/was amazing! Such a ... just ... wow!

Actually - when you look at things - Analvids has been trying absolutely everything they can to stay relevant and keep their heads above water. They find the talent they can - and they're shooting some of the best porn they've ever shot with the stable of talent they have built over the years. They are doing everything they can.

The problem is within the industry as a whole. If you would've gathered all the porn producers together a few years ago and told them, "Guess what guys! You're all gonna run out of girls to shoot porn with!" They would've thought you were smoking crack.

But, just this past week, after literally six weeks of releasing nothing, CastingCouch HD (a site that has new teens shooting with BBC) released an episode with what can be best described as ... a 6 out of 10 ... who already shot for a sister site of theirs a few months ago. That's how the video literally starts off, you can hear the guy (dishearteningly) saying, "Well, we've shot with her a few months ago ..."

OF has changed the game to that degree. And ... to be fair ... give the girls credit. If you gave me the option, in a business, between working individual jobs that would get me a quick up-front payment, or releasing stuff on my own that I would forever carry the residuals for, get all future money from, and be able to use to build my own brand ... then, yeah. I would be choosing that avenue of revenue creation as well.

One pay-pig - one single one - will give you way more than ten shoots over your lifetime. You have the equivalent of one loser out there in the world willing to pay what ten studios would. Do you ... do you know how many losers there are in this world?

The girls went from surviving paycheck to paycheck in this industry to buying a BMW and retiring at 25. Not all of them, mind you, but enough of them that everyone else figured, "Fuck the 9 - 5, shooting my ass getting rammed by two crowbars, thank you for the couple grand," and said, "Welcome to my shot to "make it big.""

And I mean, literally, everyone else. When the girl you're seeing shooting on a professional site has got janky tits, tons of hip fat, and a crooked face, then, it's like ... yeah.

I mean - consider someone like Bea York. She's featured on a few in-house related productions. She has a very pretty face, absolutely gigantic tits, and ... kind of looks like a mini-elephant. She is beyond hot. But - she actually produces her own material as well. She's got her OF and everything else - and it's like - back in the day - a few years ago - there probably wouldn't have been as many AV related studios that would've shot with her. Like, I find her amazing, but she's an absolutely acquired taste.

Thing is - these aren't the old days anymore. The girl's have, by withholding their presence, significantly increased their market-value. And the truth is - why go out there and shoot absolutely degrading porn - when you can maybe, and I mean maybe play with a dildo, show your tits, and have the potential to walk away with over a thousand times what you would've earned by jeopardizing your ability to ever take a normal shit again.

I know that OF doesn't disrupt the South American countries and the rest of the world like it does the Western ones. But, nevertheless, the minute governments saw a weakness, or, rather, a distraction from people's need to consume highly degrading porn, they all simultaneously swooped in to crush their respective markets.

And - honestly - I can understand why. We might be the degenerates who enjoy this stuff - but there is a lot of people for whom talking to a girl who looks like these girls do in their home country would result in an immediate rejection. Just to watch her go and get tossed around by seven black guys in front of a video camera whilst laughing about it? I mean, honestly, life fucking sucks enough. This just puts an altogether bizarrely twisted 11/10 kind-of fucked up angle on the whole thing.

I don't blame them for going in there and quashing it. I really don't. I fully get it. I really do. And I don't disagree with it.

And because of the nature of the business - and the trail it's left of absolutely destroyed young women in it's wake (and I'm not referencing AV/PB with this) - there is literally no-one who's going to stick up for the industry in any meaningful way.

The business was allowed to flourish because of an influx of Western-based liberal values taking hold in markets where both the rule of law and money were scarce. BRICS is trying to change that. Again - I cannot fault them for doing so.

It does mean that peak porn has, in all likelihood, been reached.

And will never return.

At least in this format (fingers crossed for an absolutely incredible do-it-yourself AI porn-scene generator).

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 2:07 pm
by M_sicas_Candido
hyapet wrote:[...]nevertheless, the minute governments saw a weakness, or, rather, a distraction from people's need to consume highly degrading porn, they all simultaneously swooped in to crush their respective markets.

And - honestly - I can understand why. We might be the degenerates who enjoy this stuff - but there is a lot of people for whom talking to a girl who looks like these girls do in their home country would result in an immediate rejection. Just to watch her go and get tossed around by seven black guys in front of a video camera whilst laughing about it? I mean, honestly, life fucking sucks enough.

I don't blame them for going in there and quashing it. I really don't. I fully get it. I really do. And I don't disagree with it.

And because of the nature of the business - and the trail it's left of absolutely destroyed young women in it's wake (and I'm not referencing AV/PB with this) - there is literally no-one who's going to stick up for the industry in any meaningful way.


Folks, it seems like matters are being mixed up here. Are we really referring to legal studios? You seem to be talking about women who became sex slaves, not professional performers. For a moment I thought we were discussing the Deep Web and mafias that exploit women in search of profits.

Some here have commented on degradation, exploitation and other things. This actually exists within the sexual marketplace - an "ecosystem" that is much more comprehensive than the adult audio-visual industry.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 3:07 pm
by dap-addict
surbhigurgaon wrote:The Colombian adult film industry is facing a crisis primarily due to changes in legal regulations, economic challenges, and the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. The Colombian government has introduced stricter regulations on adult content production, aiming to address issues such as exploitation and illegal activities within the industry. These new regulations include more stringent licensing requirements and increased oversight, which have made it more difficult for producers to operate.

How do you know?
Does anyone here know more about this?

Fact is LTP doenst produce new scenes anymore.
There is a slow-down @ NTP/Lancelot, most newly released scenes look like shot some months ago and Cineplex International could be just a try to find a way out of new local restrictions, indeed.

About alleged exploitation: Actual Medellin going rates are a good local payment. Girls get recruited the usual ways and do what they perform on set on their free will, with the usual pro LP studio safe word practice.
There have been concerns on export fee cuts by NTP but it was in a time Prague rates were still much higher for Colombian girls, so they earned more than back home anyway.


Btw, on the LTP fraud scheme releasing old scenes billed as new ones: Pornbox seems finally to have acted, but they still allow fraudulent Anal Teens to work and also N&F fraudulently re-releasing old scenes.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 4:44 pm
by hyapet
M_sicas_Candido wrote:Folks, it seems like matters are being mixed up here. Are we really referring to legal studios? You seem to be talking about women who became sex slaves, not professional performers. For a moment I thought we were discussing the Deep Web and mafias that exploit women in search of profits.

Some here have commented on degradation, exploitation and other things. This actually exists within the sexual marketplace - an "ecosystem" that is much more comprehensive than the adult audio-visual industry.


I am referencing legal studios. I don't mean to make them sound like they're doing illegal activities - they are not. I am sure AV/PB and all of their related studios follow the law to the letter.

What I'm talking about are the acts themselves. Like, when you take an 18 year old from any country and have two 6'9 250 lbs black dudes ram a combined 32 inches of foot round meat up her hole at the same time, and then take a piss on her afterwards, there are going to be lots of people out there that are "not okay" with that.

Like, forget the "free will" argument here for a second. Sure, you can get girl's who agree to do such things. Just like you'll most likely be able to find a dude who's willing to ride a motorcycle that's on fire into a fireworks factory. That doesn't mean that that action can beat the following three arguments:

1) People make dumb decisions when they're younger,
2) It's really better that the girl is there being forever branded on the world wide web as a gigantic whore than, let's say, going to school and earning a degree, or working a traditional job,
3) They know perfectly what they're getting into when they get into it,

This isn't meant to brand all girl's like this - there are quite a number of actively seek out this kind of lifestyle - and take absolute pleasure in it. There are also a ton of girls who end up going into a mega depression spiral, get addicted to drugs, keep doing more and more degrading acts, and eventually kill themselves or die from an OD.

Legal or not, the porn industry is not a good place to be in, typically. The girls have to sacrifice a lot to get into it. Like any kind of meaningful employment anywhere else - or, in 99% likelihood, any stable long-term relationship (i.e: marriage) with a good, decent, capable man. The kind you want to raise a family with.

And that's just it - no country likes to see their absolute hottest girls end up in the whore house. They, optimally, would want those girls to start families so that they could, with absolutely sound reasoning, produce more hot girls for the next generation.

"Conservative mind-set" governments have every reason not to want to let this kind of industry thrive or survive where they are. And that's not even bringing the Bible, the Koran, or pretty much any other religious text into it which would state, unequivocally, that everyone doing this stuff is going straight to hell.

So, ultimately, the "legality" of the whole thing matters far less than the cultural impacts of it.

I mean, imagine you raise the most beautiful daughter in the World where you try to do the best for her, and then you (and the town/city you live in) turn on the Internet one day, and seeing her drinking a vat of piss after getting DAP'd by five hung black dudes. Would you be okay with it?

And, even if you were, could you reasonably make the argument that everyone else should be if that happened to their daughter as well?

Porn studios bring zero benefit to the country's they're in. If anything, it just promotes sex tourism (which promotes more young women turning into whores), and gives your culture the view that, well, hey, anything goes. And! Maybe most importantly - it makes the men of the country look effeminate.

A huge portion of Japanese men are celibate and show no interest in talking to women. That country also has one of the largest and most degrading porn markets in the World with some really weird and bizarre shit. They're the ones who gave us the Bukkake after all.

So, the country ends up looking like a bunch of socially awkward petite boys staying at home and wanking one out to the black dude who's twice his size making the girl that they could never even talk to, never mind get a response from, look like a water fountain with how much she be squirtin'.

Legality - yeah - that can be whatever. You can literally change the laws to be and to mean anything. That's typically not how it works - but something being a law isn't the be-all and end-all of something.

The cultural implications and repercussions from this are a lot larger, however. It effects everyone - even if all it does is take place on a small screen in a locked room across the world.

Forget the really dangerous/dirty/criminal stuff - the legal stuff - the legal porno (as it were) - brings no noticeable benefit to the societies it takes place in.

I'm not saying that because I have an issue with it or that I hate it - but that's just the reality of it.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:35 pm
by jzabel19571964
Many great points. The bottom line is that I agree with you that the porn of 5 years ago is dead. No longer are incredibly hot 18-22 females lining up in droves to shoot scenes for mainstream porn studios. The quality of American porn has especially declined and is much more vanilla than in the past. This is very unfortunate in my view, but the new norm.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:32 am
by M_sicas_Candido
hyapet wrote:What I'm talking about are the acts themselves. Like, when you take an 18 year old from any country and have two 6'9 250 lbs black dudes ram a combined 32 inches of foot round meat up her hole at the same time, and then take a piss on her afterwards, there are going to be lots of people out there that are "not okay" with that.

Legal or not, the porn industry is not a good place to be in, typically. The girls have to sacrifice a lot to get into it.


Although I don't doubt that there are studios that shoot gangbang scenes with 18 or 19 year old girls, I say that this is complete madness and a bold gamble. This is like ordering a newly qualified and inexperienced doctor to perform a heart transplant! I mean, a lot can go wrong. I think that the producers that do this - which I resort to calling professionals - don't survive for long these days; it is unethical; It's playing irresponsibly with the lives of such young people. The AV studios experts in gangbangs (these are really professionals) at least shoot their content with girls who are already sufficiently trained to manage it, no one is fooled; everyone is well aware of their choices.

Now, every job requires a necessary vocation. The thing about being a porn star is about managing the exposure that is generated as a result of the activity itself. I'm sure the AV girls have already learned how to deal with this.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:46 am
by dap-addict
hyapet wrote:This isn't meant to brand all girl's like this - there are quite a number of actively seek out this kind of lifestyle - and take absolute pleasure in it. There are also a ton of girls who end up going into a mega depression spiral, get addicted to drugs, keep doing more and more degrading acts, and eventually kill themselves or die from an OD.

Legal or not, the porn industry is not a good place to be in, typically. The girls have to sacrifice a lot to get into it. Like any kind of meaningful employment anywhere else - or, in 99% likelihood, any stable long-term relationship (i.e: marriage) with a good, decent, capable man. The kind you want to raise a family with.

And that's just it - no country likes to see their absolute hottest girls end up in the whore house.

This is really turning into an anti-porn rant! :mad:
If we agree on free market economy and freedom of individual choice wouldn't it be better to let the peer groups like churches and teenage crisis hotlines etc advise young women against porn while at the same time respecting their right of free choice instead of supporting states to take arbitrary and hypocrite legal steps against legal porn productions, firms of a free market economy?

Also you seem to mix porn and prostitution and largely exaggerate negative effects on relationships, features typical for anti-porn campaigners.

Finally porn is a meaningful employment, too!

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 6:49 am
by hyapet
dap-addict wrote:This is really turning into an anti-porn rant! :mad:
If we agree on free market economy and freedom of individual choice wouldn't it be better to let the peer groups like churches and teenage crisis hotlines etc advise young women against porn while at the same time respecting their right of free choice instead of supporting states to take arbitrary and hypocrite legal steps against legal porn productions, firms of a free market economy?

Also you seem to mix porn and prostitution and largely exaggerate negative effects on relationships, features typical for anti-porn campaigners.

Finally porn is a meaningful employment, too!


Me discussing why others find legitimate issues with porn does not equate to my post turning into an "anti-porn rant." Much like when the FBI discusses the ways in which drugs are entering the country, somebody at that table isn't typically stupid enough to then retort with, "So, you support the import of cocaine, huh?" It's like ... no. I'm just merely saying how it gets into the country.

Here's the thing, though. When people flaunt their naked body as their trade - and everyone gets comfortable with the idea that that person is okay with it - suddenly the walls and barriers for "asking them if they want to fuck you for money" aren't really raised that high. In fact - as can be seen in plenty of the discussions on this board - lots of the actresses have side gigs in prostitution. Does that mean they're "technically related?" No. But - that's like saying there's nothing directly related between a McDonalds opening up in a small town and then everyone that lives there suddenly turning fat.

It goes beyond porn, though. Look at the girls on IG. How many girls post fully NON-nude photos there - just for folks who have lots of money say - "Hey - want to go on a ride on my boat?" Many girl's are going to be like, "Uhh ... who are you?" to the ones they don't find to be 10/10s in their eyes. And when that non 10/10 opens a briefcase of cash - suddenly ... a lot of girls are taking boat-rides and giving rides for cash. Sounds like prostitution to me.

Finally - if you're relying on the "free-market economy" to win your side of the argument - you're simply going to lose. Not because you're wrong - but because hearts and minds aren't won over by the "free-market of selling your pussy online." They're won by families getting torn apart - by young women getting into dangerous addiction cycles and then posting viral videos of it on YT and the Tik - and by people seeing performers who are made to look as young as absolutely possible taking amounts of dick so huge, no single man (who isn't built like a tree) could ever satisfy her again.

These arguments are winners - because when people hear them, they feel like they would be an absolute kleenex and hand-sanitizing basement wanking loser to argue for the other side of things. Especially when that argument has the words "free-market economy" in it.

Truth is though, the majority of the Western and Eastern worlds have been turned into pretty much these hand-crankers. That's why nobody's really pointing any fingers. Because, how do you point the finger at half the world. At that point, it goes beyond being somebody's "personal problem" and enters the territory of being "something fundamentally wrong with modern society itself."

No dude, in his right mind, in a loving and satisfying relationship, would ever figure he wants to open up the web and look at porn. Why would he? He's got the real thing right there. The real thing which would, almost guaranteed, end immediately if he was caught doing such a thing. So ...

The issues go deep. Down to the very essence of what makes us a society. If by bringing these things up you feel that I'm "picking a side" - then, I suggest you veer your arguments away from that, seeing as it will prevent you from engaging in an interesting and cohesive manner (re: making arguments that have to do with the facts - rather than my perceived personal biases.

m_sicas_Candido wrote:Although I don't doubt that there are studios that shoot gangbang scenes with 18 or 19 year old girls, I say that this is complete madness and a bold gamble. This is like ordering a newly qualified and inexperienced doctor to perform a heart transplant! I mean, a lot can go wrong. I think that the producers that do this - which I resort to calling professionals - don't survive for long these days; it is unethical; It's playing irresponsibly with the lives of such young people. The AV studios experts in gangbangs (these are really professionals) at least shoot their content with girls who are already sufficiently trained to manage it, no one is fooled; everyone is well aware of their choices.

Now, every job requires a necessary vocation. The thing about being a porn star is about managing the exposure that is generated as a result of the activity itself. I'm sure the AV girls have already learned how to deal with this.


Let's be real - while the training required to do these scenes is indeed real - it's not something that requires a two year College degree or anything. Outside of being flexible and learning how to control one's weight and communicate well, not to mention loosening their holes up (and even that's not required), then pretty much anybody can get through the porn pipeline should they even display the smallest amount of interest in doing so.

Definitely though, the complexity of some of the tougher shots does require somebody that is fully cognizant of what they're doing and what should be done, but it should never be considered as some barrier to entry. Somebody wants to shoot those scenes - those scenes will most likely be getting shot within a couple of weeks - unless the actress is physically incapable of spreading her legs or doing some light gymnastic work.

Ordinary every day girls with a couple of large dildos and a tube of lube could probably get most of the way through what's required on their own if they just experiment and stay consistent with it. Obviously that would require some natural talent - but, again - the barrier to entry is not some high-bar that only a select few can pass over or anything like that.

As for their exposure - sure - their lives will change afterwards. But, in ways that might not be fully recognized at the time of the act itself. Any girl that's pretty much ever shot porn before ever can have, through an ordinary photograph of them, the entire Internet scrawled for their face. If you've ever been in those videos - they will be up there forever and everyone you ever meet going forward will be able to find out super easily.

That means all potential employers and prospective romantic partners can take, literally, fifteen seconds to find out you shot porn. And they can do this for free.

This wasn't something that was around all the past years when people shot porn, figuring, "Man, the odds of people finding out about this are very low." It went from very low to fifteen seconds pretty quickly.

So, sure. They might get "trained on how to handle it." Life itself will train them on how to handle it. But they will soon recognize that, unlike the lawyer, teacher, or even ordinary actor - whenever anybody will look at them in the future - the first and foremost thing they'll see is a dick receptacle - and not just that, but somebody's who's absolutely fine with that.

That - no word of a lie - for almost anyone (who isn't a psychopath) is extremely exhausting. Especially when that's for a life time.

jzabel19471964 wrote:Many great points. The bottom line is that I agree with you that the porn of 5 years ago is dead. No longer are incredibly hot 18-22 females lining up in droves to shoot scenes for mainstream porn studios. The quality of American porn has especially declined and is much more vanilla than in the past. This is very unfortunate in my view, but the new norm.


Giorgio Grandi said it the best on this very forum. The act of fucking isn't the main draw anymore for people. It's the act of being recognized as a human being.

That's how far men have fallen in society. Where most recognize and realize, fully well, that they'll never be acknowledged or needed as a man or as a person by a woman ever. And their greatest fantasy is no longer to go out on a date and bang the cheerleader. That kind of objective is so far outside of the bounds of reality that they cannot even imagine it anymore. Never mind the cheerleader, just, anybody really. They're happy with just having their presence verified and being addressed in a manner that doesn't paint them to be either a loser or a threat.

That's why they line up in droves to talk to some dude in India that's pretending to be the eighteen year old that's dancing in front of the screen - with all of her clothes on - and paying absolutely ridiculous amounts of money to do so at the same time.

The fantasy of "banging a woman" has become so far out of reach for so many that the idea of watching a girl getting banged and pretending you're "that guy" has been replaced with getting off merely at the idea of a girl pretending - fucking pretending that they're just talking to you.

Giorgio really nailed it.

Men are typically interested in porn. Boys are typically interested in OF.

And if the market hasn't described, to a large part, who is the majority out there is, then the actresses lining up to the old-school studios, as we both noted, certainly have.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:02 pm
by dap-addict
Hyapet, I remember where you come from as a huge NRX fan, but I didnt read all your often long but interesting posts back here in this tread, so I might have pulled my gun too fast.

However, I still think you address only part of my reasoning. I colored red what you missed out.

Also, please be aware that I am talking about Colombian government apparently takeing legal actions against porn production. And while I can see why they are doing it, I still think it's completely hypocrite.
This is what the tread is about: Discussing the reasons of the Colombian porn production crisis. I opened it hoping for input of Latin American porn fans or porn users fellowing Colombian, Mexican and Brazilian porn for much longer than I do.


Now some points in your post:
hyapet wrote:
dap-addict wrote:This is really turning into an anti-porn rant! :mad:
If we agree on free market economy and freedom of individual choice wouldn't it be better to let the peer groups like churches and teenage crisis hotlines etc advise young women against porn while at the same time respecting their right of free choice instead of supporting states to take arbitrary and hypocrite legal steps against legal porn productions, firms of a free market economy?

Also you seem to mix porn and prostitution and largely exaggerate negative effects on relationships, features typical for anti-porn campaigners.

Finally porn is a meaningful employment, too!


Me discussing why others find legitimate issues with porn does not equate to my post turning into an "anti-porn rant."

Here you re completely right!

hyapet wrote:When people flaunt their naked body as their trade - and everyone gets comfortable with the idea that that person is okay with it - suddenly the walls and barriers for "asking them if they want to fuck you for money" aren't really raised that high. In fact - as can be seen in plenty of the discussions on this board - lots of the actresses have side gigs in prostitution. (...) It goes beyond porn, though. Look at the girls on IG.

I agree here, too.
There is a psychological link between porn and prostitution because many girls need money anyway and by performing in porn scenes they also lower their thereshold of whom to have sex with.
This said its still true that anti-porn campaigners often wrongly associate porn studios with prostitution, while prostitution is in fact one of the biggest enemies of professional porn productions.

hyapet wrote:Finally - if you're relying on the "free-market economy" to win your side of the argument - you're simply going to lose. Not because you're wrong - but because hearts and minds aren't won over by the "free-market of selling your pussy online." They're won by families getting torn apart - by young women getting into dangerous addiction cycles (...)
I said free market and free will.
Ofc I see what wins hearts, but the dramas mentioned are not related to porn production as such but much deeper society problems.


Also you seem to dwell on a pretty conservative fairytale conception of relationships:
hyapet wrote:(...)people seeing performers who are made to look as young as absolutely possible taking amounts of dick so huge, no single man (who isn't built like a tree) could ever satisfy her again.

Porn is a fantasy. In reality size doenst matter in sex but intimacy and emotional bond does.

hyapet wrote:No dude, in his right mind, in a loving and satisfying relationship, would ever figure he wants to open up the web and look at porn. Why would he? He's got the real thing right there.

Relationships are not ideal.
They also have up and downs.
And also, what do you say about relationships including common porn watching, swinging etc

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:52 pm
by jzabel19571964
I wish that I had all the answers. All I know is that LTP and NatashaTeenFilms were typically releasing 2-3 great gangbang scenes per week in 2022 and 2023. I have purchased dozens of their scenes. Now LTP has ceased completely and NatashaTeenFilms is down to a trickle and mostly one on one scenes. I have been hoping for another DAP gangbang with Camila Cooper, Ruby Walker, one of the Hayek sisters, Helen Star, or Little Chloe, but I am doubtful of one coming. Not good news for us who are big fans of Colombian porn.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:55 pm
by M_sicas_Candido
dap-addict wrote:Also, please be aware that I am talking about Colombian government apparently takeing legal actions against porn production. And while I can see why they are doing it, I still think it's completely hypocrite.
This is what the tread is about: Discussing the reasons of the Colombian porn production crisis.


Finally we return to the main part of this topic. But so far I have not discovered what legal and proven arguments the Colombian State is using to hinder Colombian production. When it comes to political decisions, keep in mind that utilitarianism will always be present. Perhaps it is some uninformed congress people who, in the need to show some work "for the benefit of society" and try to please their voters, present projects without any reliable basis.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:57 pm
by dap-addict
add:
There are some layout problems with quotes above I cant get solved it seems. I hope you can read that still properly.


One final point of your post I agree with:
hyapet wrote:(...)performers who are made to look as young as absolutely possible (...)

I can well imagine that LTP triggered some Colombian gvt agency with their tedybears and underage styling. :mad:
With NTP its absolutely clear that we have 18yo or older actresses, but LTP working with a lot of mid-end 20ties women styled their rare 18-21yo talent in a revolting underage way like they subconsciously wanted to draw attention of authorities.

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:59 pm
by isis666xxx
Porn is a fantasy. In reality size doenst matter in sex but intimacy and emotional bond does.


size doesnt matter???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

dont make me laugh

im personally bisexual and the bigger the cock is the more i like it

size doesnt matter HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

also i want to have a giant dick too, if i could have a 30cm or 40cm penis of course i would have it hahah

the bigger the hotter
also penises with the natural foreskin are higher and natural, that circumcision is bs and unnatural
i want my stolen foreskin back
i didnt consent to have my foreskin chopped

Re: Colombian Porn Production crisis?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:42 am
by visigoth2020260
NTF and Lancelot are introducing many studs, but none have the looks, stamina body build or height as Joseph Brown has; he is a true ass breaker, but i do not see him anymore. Is he on vacation or what, Bring him back at once. The bitches adore him.
He should be on every scene.

Can he come to Prague, or is that only for the bitches?

NTF, Lancelot, you guys need to get rid of that lens. that shit is a disaster.