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[Jocke]

So if you are smart you will find your way anyhow but newcomers won't I guess. Is this intentional?

[paobroncix01]

I was wondering about this too

[misangrenegra2]

I wrote my complains in the support forum, each time is more difficult to make login in the forum. I don't know how can take too much time fix a login issue in a forum.

[Vancouver]

I thought they closed the forum or something. I had to look in my browser history to find a direct forum link to get here.

Seems like a strange decision. I know we get some nasty trolls but most of the people who post on here are good.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

I thought they closed the forum or something. I had to look in my browser history to find a direct forum link to get here.

Seems like a strange decision. I know we get some nasty trolls but most of the people who post on here are good.

Perhaps, it is a temporary strategy to cut out the naysayers and the trolls. I agree, most of the people here are good, and post positive comments.

[Paizal]

Perhaps, it is a temporary strategy to cut out the naysayers and the trolls. I agree, most of the people here are good, and post positive comments.

Do you know who used such a strategy - ADT. Do you know who has been dead for years - ADT. A discussion forum that is made entirely for fanboys and only allows praise and worship is doomed to die in terms of content.

[netzerkaiser]

I think it is a genius idea. It provides a little camouflage & potentially legal protection for the forum, because the way the world is going now, a site can be under potential attack legally for any comments about anything that offend anyone. It's that simple. I look at the daily news from a lot of countries & the things people are put before the courts are, is simply shocking.

Anyone who clicks on a model's homepage can work their way to the forum, so a quick tip would be to just add a model to your favourites & go via that route.

We need to have consideration for the owners of this site, because they could be held up for a lot of what is said here, not just misogynistic thread titles, but a multitude of things. As Mr Pineapples said recently, folk here need to appreciate how lucky they are to have such a liberal & welcoming forum to view & post on.

In fact it is a genius idea. I remember how shocked I was when I saw it was open to non-members to view.

[netzerkaiser]

The alternate thought I have is that the owners of the site don't see a future for the site & if so, they are gently preparing that future. The daily updates have been poor for a long time & I'm sur that's a reflection of the industry at this time... certainly Giorgio, XXX, Kessef & others have always done the best for us people. If I'm right it'd be nice if we were informed at least 6 months in advance so that we might avail of our outstanding tickets & complete the unique & often free or cheap back catalogues.

LP has always been good to us.

[netzerkaiser]

Perhaps, it is a temporary strategy to cut out the naysayers and the trolls. I agree, most of the people here are good, and post positive comments.

Do you know who used such a strategy - ADT. Do you know who has been dead for years - ADT. A discussion forum that is made entirely for fanboys and only allows praise and worship is doomed to die in terms of content.

Sorry I disagree. All forums I think, should just be for members to view or participate it. There is no way that most paying users are 'fanboys' or delivering praise & worship, in fact since people are paying & usually remember a greater past | or aren't finding their particular requirements delivered, they will be most vociferous in their criticism as paying members. I don't think I've ever seen a fanboy on this site... yes you have a few apologists in that they defend business strategies, but usually its easy to see that they are moderators of sorts, & you can respect their stance but also realise it's from an interest. Most members are no fanboys, that's for sure.

[dap-addict]

I thought they closed the forum or something. I had to look in my browser history to find a direct forum link to get here.

Hope it's temporary only.
That move would be very disturbing indeed!
Here for all: https://forum.pornbox.com
A lot of bad has already happened on pornbox last month, like Gonzo production, NRX and EKS production and also release stop.
Must be temporary and direct link back soon!

[netzerkaiser]

I thought they closed the forum or something. I had to look in my browser history to find a direct forum link to get here.

Hope it's temporary only.
That move would be very disturbing indeed!
Here for all: https://forum.pornbox.com
A lot of bad has already happened on pornbox last month, like Gonzo production, NRX and EKS production and also release stop.
Must be temporary and direct link back soon!

Or we can watch this instead, as I am, on this beautiful saturday morning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI_ZehPOMwI&t=3706s

[misangrenegra2]

I don't get your point of give " little camouflage & potentially legal protection for the forum".

If the problem is there are some trolls or bad behaviours for some specific users, you have 3 (4) options:

1 - Do a good job and ban them for a while or forever.

2 - Make the forum for only available for members with membership active or member who spend money regularly, in that way the filter of users will be quite high, at least only who support the site will comment.

3 - Give a different colour name for those who really pay for the porn, in this way everyone will know who are them who pay or not.

4 - The easy way, remove the button of the interface and cross the fingers.

[netzerkaiser]

I don't get your point of give " little camouflage & potentially legal protection for the forum".

If the problem is there are some trolls or bad behaviours for some specific users, you have 3 (4) options:

1 - Do a good job and ban them for a while or forever.

2 - Make the forum for only available for members with membership active or member who spend money regularly, in that way the filter of users will be quite high, at least only who support the site will comment.

3 - Give a different colour name for those who really pay for the porn, in this way everyone will know who are them who pay or not.

4 - The easy way, remove the button of the interface and cross the fingers.

Well lets see. As far as I can see the forum looks healthy as normal - 20 / 30 people logged in... that's nice I think.

[netzerkaiser]

I don't get your point of give " little camouflage & potentially legal protection for the forum".

If the problem is there are some trolls or bad behaviours for some specific users, you have 3 (4) options:

1 - Do a good job and ban them for a while or forever.

2 - Make the forum for only available for members with membership active or member who spend money regularly, in that way the filter of users will be quite high, at least only who support the site will comment.

3 - Give a different colour name for those who really pay for the porn, in this way everyone will know who are them who pay or not.

4 - The easy way, remove the button of the interface and cross the fingers.

Pretty much I agree with everything you say. Using your 1-4 points, the only issues I'd say, are;

1. The trolls etc can just change their usernames as they do. You can tell them by their grammatical style etc...

2 & 3. The membership aspect should be enough to warrant being free to comment, I think this is expected... but you make a good point that maybe the big spenders should get 'gold' status. That's a great point.

4. This has been done.

In all I think LP | AV have done something quite strategically sound, if that was even the intention... might be just a blip with the systems?

Possibly the support discussion section will also benefit from this change, because more effort could be made to give solutions here to members issues?

[netzerkaiser]

The legal thing I say about 'camouflage' etc is more profound.

Supposed someone here says wrong wording about LGBT issues or are overly misogynistic (as many threads are), or whatever, maybe LP | AV are trying to cut the fall-out from these people's issues from landing on their doorstep legally - & rightly so.

Like I explained, in Western Europe today, you can go to jail basically for farting in public, so everyone has to cover their ass. Free speech is very much in danger right now. That's just the way it is.

If you have to ask this question, then, if I remember you are Russian? You don't have to live under this creeping authoritarianism, though you have your own... & if you are not Russian, but living in the 'free west', then man, you are living under a rock.

Free speech is dead. Orwell's 1984 scenario grows by the day, to the point that I don't really fear it... if I did I wouldn't post this.

I'm not fighting with you buddy, just trying to answer your question as honestly as I can.

[misangrenegra2]

@netzerkaiser

First at all,

My 4 points were 4 options, not neccessary apply all them.

My point was "suggest" some ways to moderate the forum, if they really removed the "Discussion" button from PB for that purporse.

You and i have been here for years, and we know that they changes things without any warning.

If they have some problems because some people talk shit, then they should ban them or at least warning them, that means moderate the forum properly.

Be a free forum have their pros and cons. AS pinneapple said in other thread, this situation is not the usual thing in other porn sites, the member area (forum) is for who pays.

Your development of the current situation in europe about some specific topics is interesting but i don't think AV/LP removed the button for that reasons, i have been reading during years how some people use the gay word in a pejorative way, how for having some porn tastes some people calls you homosexual/gay in a pejorative way, how some people are quite misogynistic and how some people trends to insult other users.

I would dare to say that never someone was banned for that or got a warning, the only cases i remember is for users who clearly were spammers, the lack of moderation during these years is clear

i would like give my opinion and develop an extense anwser about the free speech that you put here but i consider this is not the topic to do it

[netzerkaiser]

@netzerkaiser

First at all,

My 4 points were 4 options, not neccessary apply all them.

My point was "suggest" some ways to moderate the forum, if they really removed the "Discussion" button from PB for that purporse.

You and i have been here for years, and we know that they changes things without any warning.

If they have some problems because some people talk shit, then they should ban them or at least warning them, that means moderate the forum properly.

Be a free forum have their pros and cons. AS pinneapple said in other thread, this situation is not the usual thing in other porn sites, the member area (forum) is for who pays.

Your development of the current situation in europe about some specific topics is interesting but i don't think AV/LP removed the button for that reasons, i have been reading during years how some people use the gay word in a pejorative way, how for having some porn tastes some people calls you homosexual/gay in a pejorative way, how some people are quite misogynistic and how some people trends to insult other users.

I would dare to say that never someone was banned for that or got a warning, the only cases i remember is for users who clearly were spammers, the lack of moderation during these years is clear

i would like give my opinion and develop an extense anwser about the free speech that you put here but i consider this is not the topic to do it

Thanks man. I appreciate your kind & honest response, From me, Respect given, respect always shown.

[isis666xxx]

If the problem is there are some trolls or bad behaviours for some specific users, you have 3 (4) options:

1 - Do a good job and ban them for a while or forever.

and what is a troll exactly?? someone who says bad words and politically incorrect stuff??? explain what is a troll and who are the trolls, or you dont dare?

if you would have a forum yourself i bet it would be ultra dead because you would ban tons of people for small stuff

messages like this for example

For me personally, these scenes are garbage, it makes me vomit, it’s an abomination, the further you go, the more fucked up fantasies, what kind of fucked up is this to watch, complete idiots, just watch how fagots rub dick against dick in the pussy, this genre is called double pussy, latent fagots fuck each other in the vagina

As a heterosexual, it’s disgusting to hear this, I hate gays and everything connected with them, it’s a damn trash, and so are trances, disgusting

Discrimination for normal people with straight orientation

i think are interesting and fun and give more value to the forum
if you suppress those people the forum becomes more boring and more dead

[isis666xxx]

the world is full of white knights suppressive people trying to suppress others

thats what humans do, suppress, suppress even nipples, even nipples are considered offenssive by society

even the billionare president of the united states donald trump was banned from twtter
so much suppression everywhere

if you study history humans have always been extremely suppressive

[dap-addict]

the world is full of white knights suppressive people trying to suppress others

I really hope this is not the case here with Pornbox management and the direct link comes back early next week!

[isis666xxx]

maybe it can be because of credit cards forcing them to though

credits cards ive heard disabled xvideos red for some time, made PH delete 10 million videos, and made tons of other websites suppress a lot too, pixiv has suppressed a lot of artists because of credit cards forcing them to

credit cards are a cancer towards porn

[netzerkaiser]

[quote="doraemon_washington"]maybe it can be because of credit cards forcing them to though

This is an excellent point.

[ToryLaneRulez]

the whole front page has changed layout with memberships now being shown in the bar, im guessing its just a change to the layout and it will soon be added back in again

[xxxVIPERxxx]

maybe it can be because of credit cards forcing them to though

credits cards ive heard disabled xvideos red for some time, made PH delete 10 million videos, and made tons of other websites suppress a lot too, pixiv has suppressed a lot of artists because of credit cards forcing them to

credit cards are a cancer towards porn

I had no idea that credit card companies had so much power over porn companies...

[pronossstat]

The Discussion tab has just moved to the bottom right corner.

[dap-addict]

A bit inconvenient and very hidden as if nobody from site management wanted this discussions really. But yes, it returned at least.
Maybe we could still get it back on top of interface?
On top right is still place left!

[dap-addict]

Ok, thanks for listening!
It's back where it was!

[visigoth2020260]

That constitutes AV's central idea. People would have been hopping from place to place if it were not for it.

[netzerkaiser]

Wow, I am surprised I have to admit.

[dap-addict]

I dont know what and who showed actually also in the back with the powers, but looks like we forum talkers showed muscles!

Btw, now we just needed same with tags disappeared 90% in 2024!

[dap-addict]

Wow, I am surprised I have to admit.

I dont know who exactly and what showed actually also in the back with the Powers, but looks like we forum talkers showed muscles!

Btw, now we just needed same with tags disappeared 90% in 2024!

[misangrenegra2]

I don't understand why they removed the other new tag "memberships", seems is a version problem of the developers, in fact, the "Store" tag is now "Clips store", in partically i'm glad to see again the "Discussion" tag in the same place.

[netzerkaiser]

The Discussion tab has just moved to the bottom right corner.

Wow, what an amazing observation. Kudo's man. Incidentally its back there again now.

My guess is that its all temporary as DAPAddict rightly says, but to be honest, I think its a perfect place for it, for reasons I've given above.

One or two posters spoke about the wrongness of suppressing free speech etc, & I see their point of course. But its not about that. If in any way one is legally potentially 'in the dock' for what is said on forums, then the imperatif must be to always protect oneself. This is common sense.

[misangrenegra2]

we cry victory very soon, the interface goes back to the last version without the "Discussion" tag and with the classic name to the "Store" tag

[misangrenegra2]

we cry victory very soon, the interface goes back to the last version without the "Discussion" tag and with the classic name to the "Store" tag

I just read the pronossstat post. Is very intuitive notice the button in the bottom right... why not put the button as another big tag?

[netzerkaiser]

You gotta see the positives sometimes. That bottom collection of tabs has remarkable features & really are a credit to LP | AV support team.

Great kudos to Kapoun & team - my respect for your professionalism has grown even more highly.

You guys are doin' a great job under tough circumstances..

[dap-addict]

Oh, yes, gosh, they are still re-building the landing page.
I'm still positive management heard us, but let's see what they come up with in the end and intervene again if needed.

[zeusanalfreak299]

For me it looks like they dont really want the forum anymore.

They = most of the management / directors

[netzerkaiser]

For me it looks like they dont really want the forum anymore.

They = most of the management / directors

I got an interesting take for you on this.

I don't want it anymore.

But there are 6 - 8 'adversaries' & 'friends' I'd love to connect with & keep in touch with were it to go.

I think that's kind of a nice tribute to this forum & all it has given us.

[netzerkaiser]

For me it looks like they dont really want the forum anymore.

They = most of the management / directors

I got an interesting take for you on this.

I don't want it anymore.

But there are 6 - 8 'adversaries' & 'friends' I'd love to connect with & keep in touch with were it to go.

I think that's kind of a nice tribute to this forum & all it has given us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePiNa4ePtd0