'SZ' numbering..!?!?

[the_rook]

I was somewhat disappointed to see the new (and seemingly additional) 'numbering' system e.g. Lulu Jung PissMyAssOff Porno SZ313

For me it would be good to the old system (e.g. Ass to Ass scene #2091)... I was just starting to get organized!

[Tastes Like Ass]

I agree that the constant changing of file names makes it very difficult to keep track of the scenes. For example, I keep a list of scenes that I am considering purchasing, and when you changed the names of all those "Anal Babe Series" scenes, it took me forever to figure out which ones I already had, which ones I was planning to purchase, etc.

If you want to go to a new system for future updates, that's OK, but please don't go back and change the names of scenes that have already been released. It makes things very confusing.

[Sir Noel]

It wouldn't be so bad if they at least tagged scenes with their old names when they perform the name changes, at least that way you could search for them.

[xxx]

SZ is for the Sineplex scenes shot in Czech Republic. Scenes already released with old numbers will all be renamed eventually.

[Tastes Like Ass]

I don't understand. Why do you insist on renaming the old scenes? What does it accomplish, other than creating confusion?

[Symbalar]

Is the Anti-Piracy Obsession.

[Sir Noel]

Is the Anti-Piracy Obsession.

I don't disbelieve you, but how?

[Symbalar]

Nobody knows, crazy ideas against piracy of xxx.

[the_rook]

SZ is for the Sineplex scenes shot in Czech Republic. Scenes already released with old numbers will all be renamed eventually.

Please please PLEASE don't do this!! Talking as a 'collector' - and I guess many of your customers are the same - the renaming is an absolute nightmare.

At least leave the old numbering intact.

[gapelover]

SZ is for the Sineplex scenes shot in Czech Republic. Scenes already released with old numbers will all be renamed eventually.

.... and then released again as a new scene ?
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=7305

[Pineapples Studio]

So can everyone agree that this is a bad idea? Pay heed, XXX.

[Sir Noel]

So can everyone agree that this is a bad idea? Pay heed, XXX.

I'd quite like to see the new numbering employed on a giant flashing and rotating watermark that scrolls across the middle of the picture

[xxx]

This is only for new scenes. I have only the "SZ" numbers in my files. With the old numbers it's impossible to locate stuff easily, for example that possible duplicate scene.

[xxx]

Note that these 350 or so "SZ" scenes are all the pay-scenes, and the old numbering is for the free ones.

[xxx]

I understand your confusion but this is to avoid future problems.

[xxx]

Here is a conversion table :

SZ Old
1 1669
2 1674
3 1675
4 1671
5 1672
6 1676
7 1670
8 1677
9 1678
10 1679
11 1680
12 1681
13 1682
14 1683
15 1684
16 1685
17 1673
18 1686
19 1687
20 1688
21 1689
22 1690
23 1691
24 1692
25 1693
26 1694
27 1695
28 1696
29 1697
30 1698
31 1699
32 1700
33 1701
34 1702
35 1703
36 1704
37 1705
38 1706
39 1707
40 1708
41 1709
42 1710
43 1711
44 1712
45 1713
46 1714
47 1715
48 1716
49 1717
50 1718
51 1719
52 1720
53 1721
54 1722
55 1723
56 1724
57 1725
58 1726
59 1727
60
61 1728
62 1729
63 1730
64 1731
65 1732
66 1733
67 1734
68 1735
69 1736
70 1737
71 1738
72 1739
73 1740
74 1741
75 1742
76 1743
77 1744
78 1745
79 1746
80 1747
81 1748
82 1749
83 1750
84 1751
85 1752
86 1753
87 1754
88 1755
89 1756
90 1757
91 1838
92 1839
93 1840
94 1841
95 1842
96 1843
97 1844
98 1845
99 1846
100 1847
101 1848
102 1849
103 1850
104 1851
105 1852
106 1853
107 1854
108 1855
109 1856
110 1857
111 1858
112 1859
113 1860
114 1861
115 1862
116 1863
117 1864
118 1865
119 1866
120 1867
121 1868
122 1869
123 1870
124 1871
125 1872
126 1873
127 1874
128 1875
129 1876
130 1877
131 1878
132 1879
133 1880
134 1881
135 1882
136 1883
137 1884
138 1885
139 1886
140 1887
141 1888
142 1889
143 1890
144 1891
145 1892
146 1893
147 1894
148 1895
149 1896
150 1913
151 1914
152 1915
153 1916
154 1917
155 1918
156 1919
157 1920
158 1921
159 1922
160 1923
161 1924
162 1925
163 1926
164 1927
165 1928
166 1929
167 1930
168 1931
169 1932
170 1933
171 1934
172 1935
173 1936
174 1937
175 1938
176 1939
177 1940
178 1941
179 1942
180 1943
181 1944
182 1945
183 1946
184 1947
185 1948
186 1949
187 1950
188 1951
189 1952
190 1953
191 1954
193 1956
194 1957
195 1958
196 1959
197 1960
198 1961
199 1962
200 1963
201 1964
202 1965
203 1966
204 1967
205 1968
206 1969
207 1970
208 1971
209 1972
210 1973
211 1974
212 1975
213 1976
214 1977
215 1978
216 1979
217 1980
218 1981
219 1982
220 1983
221 1984
222 1985
223 1986
224 1987
225 1988
226 1989
227 1990
228 1991
229 1992
230 1993
231 1994
232 1995
233 1996
234 1997
235 1998
236 1999
237 2000
238 2001
239 2002
240 2003
241 2004
242 2005
243 2006
244 2007
245 2008
246 2009
247 2010
248 2011
249 2012
250 2013
251 2014
252 2015
253 2016
254 2017
255 2018
256 2019
257 2020
258 2021
259 2022
260 2023
261 2024
262 2025
263 2026
264 2027
265 2028
266 2029
267 2030
268 2031
269 2032
270 2033
271 2034
272 2035
273 2036
274 2037
275 2038
276 2039
277 2040
278 2041
279 2042
280 2043
281 2044
282 2045
283 2046
284 2047
285 2048
286 2049
287 2050
288 2051
289 2052
290 2053
291 2054
292 2055
293 2056
294 2057
295 2058
296 2059
297 2060
298 2061
299 2062
300 2063
301 2064
302 2065
303 2066
304 2067
305 2068
306 2069
307 2070
308 2071
309 2072
310 2073
311 2074
312 2075
313 2076
314 2077
315 2078
316 2079
317 2080
318 2081
319 2082
320 2083
321 2084
322 2085
323 2086
324 2087
325 2088
326 2089
327 2090
328 2091
329 2092
330 2093
331 2094
332 2095
333 2096
334 2097
335 2098
336 2099
337 2100
338 2101
339 2102
340 2103
341 2104
342 2105
343 2106

[Symbalar]

That´s what i call a waste of time.What, can´t you watch french tv on Prague?

[sifux]

how about leaving the conversion for your own use or the company's and leave the name as they were. it was a miss before and it'll be double the miss. i mean if you're marking the scenes that were shot in Cz.republic, keep this for youself in a database table with the corresponding number that's already presented to the members. you won't be confused because you have all the content and info, but like this you're doing it the other way around you're making it easy for yourself and very hard for members, which a bad bad idea. ideally i'd love it if you had defined categories and lines without generic names, which is easy to follow like:
a page for mostergapes: monstergapes 1 - monstergapes 2 ....
a page for PMAO: pmao 1, pmao 2 ....

like brazzers for example. but i think you invested in security and left your members to suffer. so i gave up on this long time ago but please don't increase the miss.

[utopiaa]

Not that big deal imo. Also its good that the names of the girls are on the filename now, don't have to manually add it now

What is a bit annoying thought is them re-releasing "old" scenes. Couldn't they just "bumb" the scene to the top, so when check the scene out you could see you already purchased it. Now some people might buy a scene twice by accident.

[Dominator]

Things change on this site by the hour... No consistency.

XXX, whoever you are (owner, webmaster, whatever), your ideas for the site are not well thought out at all.. The site is so disorganized, it's not even funny.. Hire some intelligent people to run the site, for God's sake...

[xxx]

Things change on this site by the hour... No consistency.

XXX, whoever you are (owner, webmaster, whatever), your ideas for the site are not well thought out at all.. The site is so disorganized, it's not even funny.. Hire some intelligent people to run the site, for God's sake...

If you are so intelligent why not starting your own porn site and come compete with me

If you are better you should do very well...

[Pineapples Studio]

Things change on this site by the hour... No consistency.

XXX, whoever you are (owner, webmaster, whatever), your ideas for the site are not well thought out at all.. The site is so disorganized, it's not even funny.. Hire some intelligent people to run the site, for God's sake...

If you are so intelligent why not starting your own porn site and come compete with me

If you are better you should do very well...

LOL. Simmer down, you two.

@Dominator: If you want to be taken seriously around here, you need to offer constructive feedback. Otherwise, you're just a loud-mouth. Simply talking shit about XXX and Sineplex accomplishes nothing. Tell him specifically what's wrong and offer specific suggestions for how to fix it.

@Stephane: Changing the numbering scheme like this is confusing. Look at it from our perspective. Sineplex is not a company traditionally known for being consistent. It might seem more organized to you to make this change, but doing this makes it harder for your customers to keep track of the content. Your conversion chart is helpful, but don't you think it would be more customer-friendly to use that chart internally and continue releasing scenes to the public under the old numbering scheme?

Also, releasing old scenes as if they were new scenes is a pretty obvious no-no if you want your customers to think you're not trying to screw them. It's things like this that drove me away from Sineplex in the first place. Up until now, you were doing a pretty good job of making the service more attractive for tough sells like myself. (I'm a particularly hard sell, but customers generally like to see some semblance of consistency and organization in the services they pay for.)

So I would suggest that if you do re-name these scenes, don't release them as if they were brand-new. That is misleading and shady behavior. Re-naming old scenes shouldn't be a problem because you've done it before (for example, Anal Babe Series became GG Exclusive), but changing the numbering is confusing and you shouldn't present them as new scenes because they are obviously not new scenes.

[GatosNunez]

So I would suggest that if you do re-name these scenes, don't release them as if they were brand-new. That is misleading and shady behavior. Re-naming old scenes shouldn't be a problem because you've done it before (for example, Anal Babe Series became GG Exclusive), but changing the numbering is confusing and you shouldn't present them as new scenes because they are obviously not new scenes.

+++ 1

That's a big no-no, a massive waste of time on the collector's side (as said before) and eventually a waste of money because sooner or later, I will have purchased a scene with a new filename I did already purchase with the old name.
I am not willing to thoroughly sieve through the whole site's content and then through my 600+ files of your company, including double checking for screenshots and video snippets in order to avoid buying a double.

If you chose to use a new naming system for the new files - okay, so be it, the old one was not really that genius anyway *and* I see much improvement by including the cast in the name (something most of us had to do manually before).

However, re-naming the old scenes *and* then re-release them as 'new' will not end well.
This is going not only to piss many asses off that have been pissed off before but this is also going to piss off the backbone of your paying customer's fan-base. Just don't do it.

[Slippery Pete]

This is going not only to piss many asses off that have been pissed off before but this is also going to piss off the backbone of your paying customer's fan-base.

Don't worry, that's where PC_82 comes in to tell all of those pissed off customers to "quit tripping".

[xxx]

However, re-naming the old scenes *and* then re-release them as 'new' will not end well.
This is going not only to piss many asses off that have been pissed off before but this is also going to piss off the backbone of your paying customer's fan-base. Just don't do it.

We will add some words in the title to make it clear they are not new releases. But these scenes are not in the "new scenes" area. They are on the "new free scenes" page.

[Pineapples Studio]

However, re-naming the old scenes *and* then re-release them as 'new' will not end well.
This is going not only to piss many asses off that have been pissed off before but this is also going to piss off the backbone of your paying customer's fan-base. Just don't do it.

We will add some words in the title to make it clear they are not new releases. But these scenes are not in the "new scenes" area. They are on the "new free scenes" page.

http://legalporno.com/new-videos

[xxx]

If you are talking about SZ 114 and 152 they are where they should be. Very few users saw them before. If you happen to buy them twice you can ask for a ticket refund.

I was talking about the old Sineplex scenes released in higher resolution.

[eknbb2]

Any chance that the (stupid) namechange will also be applied to files that are already in our pornbox? Currently it's a big mess, without constantly using the conversion table I can't find shit, mainly because the "OPEN THIS VIDEO IN MY PORNBOX" button does not work properly. All it does is open my pornbox mainpage, no searching for files or anything!

Btw.: The main reason why I dislike your namechange is bc your system for naming files plain out sucks. In order to achieve good sortability in windows you have the name stuff in different order, since the operating systems (and most standart search algorithms) always compare first characters of strings...well...first! That's why you always should put unique names behind numbers! E.g. a file like "Miyuki Son & Victoria Redd Fuck Her Ass Then My Pussy Video SZ147" would sort best if its name was structuctured that way: "Name_of_series, followed by Number_of_video, followed by Unique_name_of_video (=name of actresses)", which would lead to something like: "Fuck Her Ass Then My Pussy SZ147 Miyuki Son & Victoria Redd". While that altered name might not look much different at first glance, it's still way more suitable to be used on a pc, the difference is like day and night really!

Here is an in depth analysis of good practice file naming:
(heed my warning: skip if you are easily bored, scared, or just here to discuss and/or read about various forms of depraved anal intercourse, without any improvements or interest in how those could possibly be achieved in mind!)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CURRENTLY:

A_Model.......................
B_Model.......................
C_Model.......................
...
...
Miyuki Son & A_Series...
Miyuki Son & B_Series...
Miyuki Son & C..........
...
Miyuki Son & Victoria...
N_Model (or anything following Miyuki alphabetically)
...
...and so on
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BETTER:

A_Series.....
B_Series.....
C_Series.....
...
...
Fuck Her Ass Then My Pussy SZ147 Miyuki Son & Victoria Redd
Fuck Her Ass Then My Pussy SZ148 Miyuki Son & W_Model (or anything following Victoria alphabetically)
Fuck Her Ass Then My Pussy SZ149 N_Model (or anything following Miyuki alphabetically)
Fuck Her Ass Then My Pussy SZ150 O_Model
G_Series.....
H_Series.....
...
...
Piss My Ass Off SZ146 A_Model
Piss My Ass Off SZ151 B_Model
....etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It's similar to naming files chronologically: DD_MM_YYYY leads to chaos while YYYY_MM_DD leads to order within the filesystem, by putting the most consistent part, in that case the year, first!

year_month_day_uniquename = chronologically correct display of files, clean and ordered
month_day_year_uniquename = might be useful in special cases, still not quite as clear as the upper one
day_month_year_uniquename = pure absolute maximum chaos, the worst thing you can do....it really is, trust me!
uniquename_whateverdate = slightly less chaotic than 3, as long as you have a single unique name, worst of all 4 if you have multiple of them (sadly no.4+ is legalporn's new naming scheme)

As you might imagine the first two examples of naming files make finding stuff easy while the latter two make it almost impossible to find single files without further sorting or knowing the name by heart. In your case the date component in the example above would equal the name of your series + the video number, while the model names are the unique component, since it's the least consistent part of your filename. Imagine putting Victoria before Miyuki in that file, it would lead to huge changes in terms of total file order within the folder. Small change -> illogical and big impact -> bad system!

Consistency analysis of legalporn video names:
Name of series: High, includes info about scene's style/genre
Number of video: Medium, actually quite useless for the customer, could be skipped if you would add numbers to the series
Name of girls: Very Low!, changes from scene to scene, depends on number of chicks in scene, idk if chicks names are sorted alphabetically, if not it would only add to the chaos!

In my opinion, and according to the rule of ordering parts of the scenes name by consistency, the ideal name would be something similar to:

NameOfStudio_NameOfSeries_NumberOfSceneInSeries_(ChronologicalNumberOfScene)_NamesOfGirlsInAlphabeticalOrder
or:
Sineplex_Fuck Her Ass Then My Pussy_001_SZ0147_Miyuki Son & Victoria Redd
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In general it can be said, that this method of naming files allows you to have tons of them neatly arranged within one single folder, it brings together what belongs together, so let's just call it visual defragmentation (and automated at that, no need to sort stuff manually, just one click -> "sort by name")!!!!!!

PS: I'm sorry this one got a little longer than I expected it to, I didn't mean to bore anybody

[xxx]

Existing files should be renamed too. We'll check.

[eknbb2]

Existing files should be renamed too. We'll check.

Good, this would make things easier indeed!