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New system coming

PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:44 pm
by PC_82
guys that have unlimited tickets will now be able to use them with FREE content which is the content that will have this http://awesomescreenshot.com/03f1uw4e36 so means you can unlimited download these scenes.
new premium scenes from studios that are new will be with this http://awesomescreenshot.com/0491uw4j03 and 30 day membership will have 35 tickets.

all 1 year download and unlimited streaming will be compensated with tickets and ability to download anything that is FREE

i guess they just bought more anal good content so its going up for members only as free... new scenes being shot are PREMIUM so will cost tickets included in whatever package you buy.

good thing is if you dont care about old scenes you can just buy PAY PER DOWNLOAD (PPD) which is just tickets to buy only what you want and no membership at all

so there is whats about to change :eek:

you will start to see new studios after this system is up and running smoothly

PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:39 am
by klapphatt
PC_82 wrote:guys that have unlimited tickets will now be able to use them with FREE content which is the content that will have this http://awesomescreenshot.com/03f1uw4e36 so means you can unlimited download these scenes.
new premium scenes from studios that are new will be with this http://awesomescreenshot.com/0491uw4j03 and 30 day membership will have 35 tickets.

all 1 year download and unlimited streaming will be compensated with tickets and ability to download anything that is FREE

i guess they just bought more anal good content so its going up for members only as free... new scenes being shot are PREMIUM so will cost tickets included in whatever package you buy.

good thing is if you dont care about old scenes you can just buy PAY PER DOWNLOAD (PPD) which is just tickets to buy only what you want and no membership at all

so there is whats about to change :eek:

you will start to see new studios after this system is up and running smoothly
running smoothly u say,then i look forward to 2018,hehehe

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:25 pm
by PC_82
hey so i hope you guys dont cancel your membership, so i think i understood that going forward the new membership is premium and free scenes.

if you dont want membership you can just buy premium tickets but you dont get access to old content that has been released by other studios. they are buying content from big studios.

but you can download new scenes.

if you bought an unlimited membership then you will keep your tickets but when you cancel you lose all tickets. but when you renew your membership later then you will have premium tickets and an active membership will allow you to download all content unlimited but not premium and will be designated FREE

NON active with cancelled unlimited memberships but:
for those with 100's++ of tickets - your doing to be converted to premium tickets and month free to download all you want. i dont know the formula yet.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:37 pm
by gapelover
Please make the membership more complicated so more guys are totally confused and will not join or cancel :eek::eek::eek:

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:41 pm
by PC_82
gapelover wrote:Please make the membership more complicated so more guys are totally confused and will not join or cancel :eek::eek::eek:


not complicated:

ticket to view a scene stream or download- thats it

free stuff is free with membership

pay per download if you dont care about old stuff- tickets

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:44 pm
by gapelover
but when you cancel membership you loose all your tickets ? :eek:

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:45 pm
by gapelover
if you renew later you will have premium tickets ? :eek:

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:47 pm
by gapelover
sounds like WTF membership !!!
anyway this will keep the support busy :D

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:27 pm
by PC_82
gapelover wrote:but when you cancel membership you loose all your tickets ? :eek:


no you get premium tickets and they never expire..

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:31 pm
by Slippery Pete
PC_82 wrote:no you get premium tickets and they never expire..

Ok, thanks for clarifying this. As long as I get to keep my tickets that's really all I care about.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:58 pm
by PC_82
Slippery Pete wrote:Ok, thanks for clarifying this. As long as I get to keep my tickets that's really all I care about.


only if you have 2000 tickets they are not premium but you will have them converted to premium and with expired membership you wont have unlimited downloads to the other scenes they are adding from other studios

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:18 pm
by Ratel
The new system sounds interesting, and is not really all that complicated, but I will believe it only when I see it. It's not the first time you promise something :rolleyes:.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:47 pm
by Sir Noel
PC_82 wrote: but you dont get access to old content that has been released by other studios. they are buying content from big studios.

but you can download new scenes.



If they want to buy in anything they ought to buy back the rights to the stuff they recorded for Devils Films which was all from the previous golden age of Sineplex

DF only ever let it out in 540p, the bastards.....it deserves a better home :)

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:17 pm
by PC_82
Ratel wrote:The new system sounds interesting, and is not really all that complicated, but I will believe it only when I see it. It's not the first time you promise something :rolleyes:.


yes its less headache and fair to studios and directors that need to make money or they will stop making good porn

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:19 pm
by Ratel
A wise man once said: just release it and we will buy it :D

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:22 pm
by Ratel
But without kidding, this new system would finally get me an unlimetted membership.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:20 pm
by Slippery Pete
PC_82 wrote:only if you have 2000 tickets they are not premium but you will have them converted to premium and with expired membership you wont have unlimited downloads to the other scenes they are adding from other studios

That is fine. I am not interested in any of the other studios anyway.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:22 am
by gapelover
what happens if i cancel my membership because i don't want automatic rebills, will i not have access to premium content?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:33 am
by PC_82
gapelover wrote:what happens if i cancel my membership because i don't want automatic rebills, will i not have access to premium content?


new memberships never expire. old ones with 500 tickets -- you just cant see the free stuff like firstgape and gonzo stuff they been buying.

premium new scenes you will get your 500 tickets converted to 1 month membership so you can download the updates and download all free scenes

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:08 am
by gapelover
but the question was what happens if i cancel my membership because i don't want automatic rebills, i guess i have to wait for an explanation until it up :(

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:13 pm
by PC_82
gapelover wrote:but the question was what happens if i cancel my membership because i don't want automatic rebills, i guess i have to wait for an explanation until it up :(


cancel is cancel.. why you going to be rebilled if you cancelled before the rebill?

and if you bought tickets before like 50 tickets it stays.. if you bought an unlimted and have 500 or 2000 tickets and you cancelled long time ago you will get 1 more mont and some premium tickets. with month membership you can download all the FREE scenes which are not the new stuff but other studios content.

you will be able to download premium scenes with the tickets that were converted. so all is fair

everything in your pornbox is yours for life right?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:23 pm
by dpconnoisseur1
I think the question is more of what happens to your premium scene tickets when you cancel. Let me be specific:
I don't know what ticket purchases will be offered so I will use an old system quantity of 100. If signup for a 100 tickets but I'm only able to use 50 before getting rebilled so I cancel will I:
(a) still be able use those 50 unused tickets even if I don't have an active account.
(b) loose those unused 50 tickets and have to be rebilled for another 100 tickets to maintain and active account so I can continue premium downloads.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:46 pm
by PC_82
dpconnoisseur1 wrote:I think the question is more of what happens to your premium scene tickets when you cancel. Let me be specific:
I don't know what ticket purchases will be offered so I will use an old system quantity of 100. If signup for a 100 tickets but I'm only able to use 50 before getting rebilled so I cancel will I:
(a) still be able use those 50 unused tickets even if I don't have an active account.
(b) loose those unused 50 tickets and have to be rebilled for another 100 tickets to maintain and active account so I can continue premium downloads.


so your tickets from before are now reduced to 35 tickets premium and you still have unlimited access to all the other content. but new scenes are premium and so you have to exchange a ticket for content. if you cancel then the tickets that are premium NEVER EXPIRE as also anything you downloaded to pornbox with unlimited tickets before.

just that change is that premium scenes are not making money and some directors are complaining they cant live like this. so needs to be more fair for them also. they keep making the best content in the world if they make money right?

but also keep the loyal customers happy.. always!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:45 pm
by dpconnoisseur1
Thanks for your prompt response and I agree!

Keep the directors happy so they keep making great content which in turns makes the consumers happy. Win-Win in my book. Now lets release the scenes. :p Couldn't help myself!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:07 pm
by Sir Noel
Seems reasonable, as long as scenes don't start to suffer from the ludicrous ticket inflation they did in 2011. I recall at one point it was about £42 for UK users (over 50 euros) for enough tickets to buy about 4 or 5 premium scenes!
If you keep prices sensible and don't get too greedy then the system might be fine.

Could we have some specifics tho pls. How much will membership be (and is it the same for everyone, or will you play the 'local currency' game)? How many tickets for that membership and will scenes remain at one ticket per scene?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:59 am
by gapelover
PC_82 wrote:cancel is cancel.. why you going to be rebilled if you cancelled before the rebill?

and if you bought tickets before like 50 tickets it stays.. if you bought an unlimted and have 500 or 2000 tickets and you cancelled long time ago you will get 1 more mont and some premium tickets. with month membership you can download all the FREE scenes which are not the new stuff but other studios content.

you will be able to download premium scenes with the tickets that were converted. so all is fair

everything in your pornbox is yours for life right?

this all confuses me, the main question is what happens if i cancel because i don't want automatic rebills, will my membership stay alive until all tickets are gone?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:19 am
by dpconnoisseur1
PC_82 wrote:if you cancel then the tickets that are premium NEVER EXPIRE as also anything you downloaded to pornbox with unlimited tickets before.


gapelover wrote:this all confuses me, the main question is what happens if i cancel because i don't want automatic rebills, will my membership stay alive until all tickets are gone?


Unless I misunderstood something your tickets will never expire! As long as they are what they are calling premium tickets in the new membership types. So there might be some conversion process for people that still have a balance of tickets from the old membership type to premium tickets.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:29 pm
by dpconnoisseur1
Well the Membership plans are posted and it seems reasonable. They dropped old plan from 100 tickets to 30 or 35 tickets for the same cost plus several other plans. Now where the issue may come in is the cost per scene. If it changes drastically from 1 scene for 1 ticket to something else.

We are down to 3 days before launch so we will all soon know!

Re: New system coming

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:06 am
by AngryRippedOffUser
This new System is confusing & needless

Now i pay 51€ für 120 Premium Tickets ? With the old System, i get Unlimited Tickets for my Money ! and it worked
100% to use my Tickets @ Sineplex & @LP !

Now i can only Download Stuff, that i drop from Sineplex to my Pornbox (that's useless, because, LP got >always< any Scene from Sineplex, and much more Scenes, all the FirstGape etc Scenes are missing on Sineplex)

but not Scenes that i drop from LP to my Pornbox, but my Money goes to the same Pocket ! WTF ?

Give me one, just one logical & understandable reason why i cant use my Tickets on LP when the fucking Money from my Membership, goes to the same Money Pocket ?

And 120 Tickets for 90 Days are nothing ! Some Scenes need 2.5 Premium Tickets, release 10 Clips (nothing special in 3 Month !) with 2.5 Premium Tickets and 25 Tickets are gone. Release 1000000000000000000 Scenes from Gapeland, name it as Anal Babe Series xxxx, and the rest is gone too.

I'm so angry, so many Scenes on LP that i cant download, with my Unlimited Ticket Membership.

Re: New system coming

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:47 am
by themrgwoodman
I think the new site release is great. You should give a short visual tutorial on how to download a video. I'm guessing many people are missing that tiny blue/green button - THANKS

Re: New system coming

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:55 am
by AngryRippedOffUser
themrgwoodman wrote:I think the new site release is great. You should give a short visual tutorial on how to download a video. I'm guessing many people are missing that tiny blue/green button - THANKS


Are you joking ? Did you read, what has changed ?

First: You can use your Tickets now just @ the Site, from where you joined ! (but still, the Money that you Pay for your Tickets, go to the same Person !)
Joined from Sineplex = Tickets for Sineplex.com ! Add a Scene that is missing on Sineplex (@ this Moment over 50 !)
from LP to your Pornbox, and you cant use your Tickets.

Second: Just 120 Tickets for 3 Month for 51€, before you get unlimited Tickets for 51€ for 3 Month !

That's forcing me to Cancel my Membership, and Join over LP.

And anyone is forced, to Buy Tickets @LP to Download a Scene from LP.

Even when they have 5000000000000000000 Tickets @ Sineplex. The Tickets are in this Case useless ! There's no Scene from Sineplex that LP >dont have< but more as 50 Scenes from LP are missing on Sineplex ! For over 3 Month, LP got always any Scene that is released @ Sineplex.com

Re: New system coming

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:48 pm
by dpconnoisseur1
Everything on the website seems to be working good for me currently including the download speeds but I have a website confusion question. How are most popular videos determined ? Is It by user rating because there are 2 different rating systems and neither persist the rating that you selected after refreshing the screen so I'm not sure if even works. The rating areas are:

(1) On the main page below the trailer window to the right. This has a 10 star rating system plus something else that says advanced rating which I don't have right to.
(2) In the "My Box" page, if you change the layout from just text (default) to one of the two choices with a snapshot of the video they have a 5 star rating that is either below video title or the image depending on choice.

I always try and remember to rate in both pages for scenes I really like but was wondering if this is a useless practice on my part!

Re: New system coming

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:02 pm
by xxx
dpconnoisseur1 wrote:Everything on the website seems to be working good for me currently including the download speeds but I have a website confusion question. How are most popular videos determined ? Is It by user rating because there are 2 different rating systems and neither persist the rating that you selected after refreshing the screen so I'm not sure if even works. The rating areas are:

(1) On the main page below the trailer window to the right. This has a 10 star rating system plus something else that says advanced rating which I don't have right to.
(2) In the "My Box" page, if you change the layout from just text (default) to one of the two choices with a snapshot of the video they have a 5 star rating that is either below video title or the image depending on choice.

I always try and remember to rate in both pages for scenes I really like but was wondering if this is a useless practice on my part!

We are working heavily on this right now. User ratings actually don't matter at this point.

Re: New system coming

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:20 pm
by ElJab78
How do we actually find free download scenes? It seems like yesterday I was able to find a bunch of scenes that were free download, but later in the day they became premium? Some of these scenes were older, like from the winkers series and black meat please series, so I don't see why they should be premium. The other question is how do we download free scenes without exchanging for a ticket. I have been going to download, it adds to my pornbox, but when I am in my pornbox it only gives me an option to exchange for ticket. I have 30 day reoccuring so I should be able to download the free scenes without using tickets. It would be much appreciated if anyone can help

Re: New system coming

PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:55 pm
by krisb01
I haven't joined before and was thinking of buying some tickets. Is there still attestation that must be done when paying by credit card?

Re: New system coming

PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:42 pm
by dpconnoisseur1
XXX wrote:
dpconnoisseur1 wrote:Everything on the website seems to be working good for me currently including the download speeds but I have a website confusion question. How are most popular videos determined ? Is It by user rating because there are 2 different rating systems and neither persist the rating that you selected after refreshing the screen so I'm not sure if even works. The rating areas are:

(1) On the main page below the trailer window to the right. This has a 10 star rating system plus something else that says advanced rating which I don't have right to.
(2) In the "My Box" page, if you change the layout from just text (default) to one of the two choices with a snapshot of the video they have a 5 star rating that is either below video title or the image depending on choice.

I always try and remember to rate in both pages for scenes I really like but was wondering if this is a useless practice on my part!

We are working heavily on this right now. User ratings actually don't matter at this point.


I forgot who the member was but he mentioned something that made a lot of sense to me. So borrowing heavy from his idea instead of worrying about user rating maybe actual download stats would be better and those numbers seem to be already included in the scenes metadata. So for instance basing the most popular videos on actual download number but breaking them down into several categories so popular videos released a long time ago wouldn't dominate the list. Here is an example of categories and timeframes that you can decide on:

Week Top # Most Popular Videos
Month Top # Most Popular Videos
Year Top # Most Popular Videos
All Time Top # Most Popular Videos

This way no major changes have to be made to the site and just cosmetic changes to the categories that you decide on!

Re: New system coming

PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:38 am
by PC_82
ElJab78 wrote:How do we actually find free download scenes? It seems like yesterday I was able to find a bunch of scenes that were free download, but later in the day they became premium? Some of these scenes were older, like from the winkers series and black meat please series, so I don't see why they should be premium. The other question is how do we download free scenes without exchanging for a ticket. I have been going to download, it adds to my pornbox, but when I am in my pornbox it only gives me an option to exchange for ticket. I have 30 day reoccuring so I should be able to download the free scenes without using tickets. It would be much appreciated if anyone can help



yes we will extend your time as its not working as will for other members that having this issue. please email me your user names so i can make sure you get the extension.

evilutionplex@gmail.com

Re: New system coming

PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:18 pm
by GapeO
PC_82,

I have written to support about some major issues i am having with the site now and it's been a week and no response on it whatsoever.

Basically since Nov. 12th and the release of the new scenes i haven't been able to download anything. I get a box that appears that says "error" on top with a "continue" button in the middle when i go to download a scene. Once i press continue i just go back to the page i am currently on. It's very frustrating to say the least. I have written to support as i said before and Tim wrote back saying they had my request but nothing more.

I also had to re-pay for the scenes i already bought when i did a big purchase on October 26th but to me right now that's a minor point compared to the massive issue of not being able to download.

Could you look into this for me please. Thanks.

Re: New system coming

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:03 pm
by ntvs
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Re: New system coming

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:30 pm
by PC_82
GapeO wrote:PC_82,

I have written to support about some major issues i am having with the site now and it's been a week and no response on it whatsoever.

Basically since Nov. 12th and the release of the new scenes i haven't been able to download anything. I get a box that appears that says "error" on top with a "continue" button in the middle when i go to download a scene. Once i press continue i just go back to the page i am currently on. It's very frustrating to say the least. I have written to support as i said before and Tim wrote back saying they had my request but nothing more.

I also had to re-pay for the scenes i already bought when i did a big purchase on October 26th but to me right now that's a minor point compared to the massive issue of not being able to download.

Could you look into this for me please. Thanks.



ok you should not have to pay for scenes you already bought. send me your user to evilutionplex@gmail.com with a note