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Is this your plan to make this site great again?

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/296305

We have tons of this shit on tube-sites.
If people buy this, they dont support specific models, but the editor and studio owner only. 6 TKT for something which should be a bonus is fucking insane.

It's a clear sign that crisis has also reached GIO.

GIO now seems that reaching a 3 week rule, instead of 2 week.

This site once had a great potential, but general incompetence and over the top greed ruined it.

Among the torrents of shit even "professional" studios make formulaic boring scenes, the only bright spot are a few new girls from time to time, and a limited bunch of veterans who come back once in a while.

And they charge like their product is hig end caviar when in reality it's merely a hot dog from the street.

Time to download the whole library before this site is not available... I havent done it so far.

zeusanalfreak299 wrote:Is this your plan to make this site great again?

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/296305

We have tons of this shit on tube-sites.
If people buy this, they dont support specific models, but the editor and studio owner only. 6 TKT for something which should be a bonus is fucking insane.

Well... there are some similitude with your idea of split a scene in different parts to buy your favorite sex acts, simply this sell an specific sex act, an specific fetish would be more accurate, from different scenes more "cheaper".

Is a hook up for fetishists of gapes.

I don´t like this kind of scenes because is something that each one can make in their free time with the videos of their own library, but some people prefer to pay to save their time.

Just for your information, the 1st compilation looks has been a good sales and the price of this compilations are similiar, even more expensive, than anal gangbangs between 2019-before. He simply tested the market and looks there are people in favour to pay for that

To be honest, i prefer spend 6 TKT in one anal gangbang of the old scenes that i haven't yet than in a compilation.. but your TKTs, your decission.

misangrenegra2 wrote:
Well... there are some similitude with your idea of split a scene in different parts.

But my idea was not to have a remix of short moments which are often used in compilations. I think we talk about very different things.

What I suggested was splitting 1 scene in a few parts, but also offer it as a complete scene. So all who want to see the full scene could buy the full scene. But people with less money or people who are only interested in e.g. DP/TP could buy only their part for e.g. 3 TKT.
You would still have a scene (or a part) with the model you like and want to support. And I was not talking about a part which costs 6 TKT.

For example:

FULL scene 10 TKT

and additional alternative buying options:

Intro and Blowjob/Facefucking (5min) let´s say for 1 TKT
1on1 in 3-4 positions (15 min) for 2 TKT
DP/TP in 3-4 positions (20min) for 3 TKT
DAP in 3-4 positions (20 min) for 4 TKT
Cumshots and Piss (5 min) 1 TKT

I for example bought the whole scene from Rebel because I fully want to support her (100%), even if I enjoyed 40% of the scene only. So, people like me could continue buy the whole scene with their favourite model, even for 10 TKT.



On the other hand I dont want to spend 10.5 TKT for this Sweety Plum scene. I like her and have many scenes with her, but I dont like this scene. I need only the DP part. So I would really like to support her with 3 TKT, instead of paying nothing. And I really want to buy "DP" in general to make a statement that this is a my (customer´s) prefered style. Unfortunately, I dont have the opportunity to do that. I can only buy the whole scene but I wont. If I could buy the DP part only, I would do that. If i would have additional buttons and would buy a specific part with that, I would have only the "DP/TP" button from the 1st screen. Not the whole scene like the one with Rebel.

Comsumption:
- For people who want the full scene and pay what ever is necessary, nothing would change! (So, calm down...)
- The studio would have additional sales, because right now nobody of them know hoch much potential additional customers they theoretically have with a lower budget, but the motivation to support with less money.
- Sweety would get additional support instead of nothing, because decreasing sales doesnt mean that she is not required. It can mean that the total scene price is to high, or specific fetishes/sex positions are not choosen well.
- Sales of only specific parts would give the studios information about "what really sells and matters".

Right now the paying models is unflexible as fuck.




A compilation is a mix of a specific fetish but with totally different models. And this can be a problem, if you dont like most of the models. So You have to pay 6 TKT to see only a few short moments of your favourite girl. It´s a huge waste of money.
But of course there are a lot people who dont care about specific models. They want to have a compilation to see gaping assholes. And they pay 6 TKT and dont care. But the other audience, who could also spend money if they would have the possibility, stays outside and hold the money back.

I think even I would buy this compilation for 1 TKT, but as you wrote I can do that by my own with the models i like and the fetishes I prefer more.

My point was that you realize this compilations have "similarities" with your idea.

I know and we discussed before in other thread your point about split an specific scene in sex acts and sell them more cheaper than the whole scene, and again you explained very well what was your propose.

What i'm trying to say is instead of split a single scene in sex acts, Gio selected an specific fetish and cut several scenes to make a compilation, and as i said, is something that each one can do with their own purchased videos.

Other point is, how many of these videos that appear in the compilation can have already a customer? I guess that more than one if you are a fan of the studio and, as you said, maybe some girl are not of your taste but to be honest, the customers of these kind of compilatons scenes, i'm quite sure they don't matter what girls appearing, is about watch gaping assholes and is more easy spend a few tokens than make your own compilation.

However, would be next thing? Doggy compilations or fisting compilations?....

Other porn sites offers this kind of compilation for free of a purchased scene or movie like cum compilations

zeusanalfreak299 wrote:Is this your plan to make this site great again?

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/296305

We have tons of this shit on tube-sites.
If people buy this, they dont support specific models, but the editor and studio owner only. 6 TKT for something which should be a bonus is fucking insane.

Good point, but there are also other worrying developments. For example,more and more "behind the scenes" shit, shorter and shorter videos, constantly increasing prices and the way some big studios put stills at the end of the video, which might take even 8-10 minutes of the total length. It doesn't look good.

I dont think legally most studios here can do these compilations and resell them here. The studio doing this should have a different/special status than most studios here because most the top studios here sell the exclusivity of their scenes to XXX. You should not be worried that most top studios will be doing this.

Oscar Batty wrote:I dont think legally most studios here can do these compilations and resell them here. The studio doing this should have a different/special status than most studios here because most the top studios here sell the exclusivity of their scenes to XXX. You should not be worried that most top studios will be doing this.

After the problems I'm having with the disappearance and magical appearance of the released scenes by losing sales and viewing, and above all the really low ratings it is evident that there is something wrong and I have evidence that some know it so long the story...

beklof wrote:
Good point, but there are also other worrying developments. For example,more and more "behind the scenes" shit, shorter and shorter videos, constantly increasing prices and the way some big studios put stills at the end of the video, which might take even 8-10 minutes of the total length. It doesn't look good.

I agree. And we have threads for the shitty excessive releasing of behind the scenes content. I participate in those threads too and say that I don't like it either But this thread is not about this. It's about the lazy recycling of scenes for 6 TKT...

whats wrong with comps? Most customers are not forum members who buy 1000 scenes and spend so much of their spare time enjoying porn. A gape fan may not have much porn money but would buy a comp just to see them all.

I honestly don't get the mentality that if they sell something you don't personally like then it must bad.

Seriously, you would find people for every type of sex act and scene that don't like it and want it gone from the site. If everyone got their wish, nothing would be released.

There are more people than just you. Enjoy what you like, ignore what you don't. A comp is absolutely harmless.

Vancouver wrote:
There are more people than just you. Enjoy what you like, ignore what you don't. A comp is absolutely harmless.

I rather assume that selling comps suggests that studios have creative or financial problems and that users are therefore worried about the future of the studios.

Paizal wrote:

Vancouver wrote:
There are more people than just you. Enjoy what you like, ignore what you don't. A comp is absolutely harmless.

I rather assume that selling comps suggests that studios have creative or financial problems and that users are therefore worried about the future of the studios.

+1 this is the problem. I wouldn't write anything if we would have comps for many years. But that's not the case.

I get that studios have to try and make a profit anyway they can, but for the user it just adds to the mass of amateur/behind the scenes/low budget crap videos we already have to wade through on a daily basis, and is not a good sign of the health of the site. I'm increasingly worried about the long-term viability of this place and how long it's going to be around before it's indistinguishable from any other generic 'anything goes' tube site. There only seems to be a small handful of studios still holding this place up in terms of the old Legal Porno quality that first attracted me here - if any of them ever decide to leave and set up on their own this place will be in real trouble.

backstage, are a great "tools" for users to get a bit of something of different scene for few bucks and evaluate to purchase them
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compilation have been requested to me since long time. not everyone have the time/skills to edit XY gapes or swallows to enjoy on a special evening or occasion. We will need to add the code of each scene as user maybe interested to go watch one of the scene

davebowman
There only seems to be a small handful of studios still holding this place up in terms of the old Legal Porno quality that first attracted me here - if any of them ever decide to leave and set up on their own this place will be in real trouble.
So, support them if you think they are in crisis.

now I understand why trailers are so bad.

They are intentionally bad because they want to sell compilations.

Giorgio Grandi wrote:backstage, are a great "tools" for users to get a bit of something of different scene for few bucks and evaluate to purchase them
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compilation have been requested to me since long time. not everyone have the time/skills to edit XY gapes or swallows to enjoy on a special evening or occasion. We will need to add the code of each scene as user maybe interested to go watch one of the scene

davebowman
There only seems to be a small handful of studios still holding this place up in terms of the old Legal Porno quality that first attracted me here - if any of them ever decide to leave and set up on their own this place will be in real trouble.
So, support them if you think they are in crisis.

BTS:
But why only now? You could have offered BTS earlier in addition to normal scenes. And not as a replacement to normal scenes with the content from old scenes. This is especially the case with Yummi. And why should you pay more than one TKT for it? After all, the scene is already paid for. The editor just assembles raw footage and puts it online.

Compilation:
Same here, why only now? And why for 6TKT? This is not the work of a professional editor. It's marking, cutting and pasting pieces of a scene. You need one person for that. If the studios had done this earlier at more reasonable prices, there would be no critics at all. Currently, it looks like you/studios have long ago given up and are still trying to milk the last drop of profit out of the customers with BTS and Comps.

And the worst thing is that hardly anyone communicates, although every company should be as transparent as possible, especially in times of crisis, in order to maintain customer loyalty and satisfaction.

Why don't you give a summarized statement of all studios with problems? How companies do it. E.g. what options are there? Where is the journey going? You could win supporters with it.

XXX have made it abundantly clear that there will be no rules and no moderation and anyone can do anything they want (unless its a scene with twins). In an anarchy like that where anything goes, producers (and iPhone owners) will naturally find ways to exploit the platform.

An other interesting case is Clarke Studio and their re-releases of multiple edited versions.

Look at the profile for Manana Tights for example
https://pornbox.com/application/model/118252

Clarke Studio have only filmed 3 scenes with this girl, yet they have released 12!!! They keep pumping out slightly edited versions of the same scene to give it another go in the spotlight of new releases and a chance to make new sales.
However, that spotlight doesn't really do anything anymore now when everything is drowned in garbage content. Nobody can even find the new professional releases.

And i cant really blame Clarke Studio or any other studio for doing something like this. They have invested money in to their product and need to make it back. Unlike 90% of the content that they have to share space with.
If you are criticizing Giorgio for making a 6 ticket commercial for his already released content you are not really seeing the big picture.

hjohjole wrote:If you are criticizing Giorgio for making a 6 ticket commercial for his already released content you are not really seeing the big picture.

LOL you can have this opinion of course. But I dont like the Clarke Studio behavior and neither the statement of XXX. I see the shit which you call "big picture", definitely, but I´m also someone you dont want just to see something, but discuss those things. Thats why we have this forum?! Have you also considered this fact?
Shitty behavior of several studios like Clarke Studio or people like XXX who give a shit on the whole situation are not role models to which I orient my opinions or with which I put something in relation.

My criticism is not about the fact that there are BTS and COMPS.

But to the fact that currently many big studios seem to be dead, but keep quiet about the situation and quietly suggest their continued existence with remnant exploitation.
And I find it really exaggerated that additional content like BTS and COMPS are sold for 6 TKT, even 3 TKT.
If I pay 10 TKT for a scene with Rebel Ryder, then I pay the actors, the space, the energy costs, the director, the editor, the makeup, the depreciation costs of the equipment.
But if I buy a comp for 6 TKT, then there is mainly only the work of the editor in there, who can also be an amateur. We're not talking about editing a Hollywood trailer here, we're talking about using the basic functions of iMovie or similar programs, plus clicking on "upload".

GG can we make a scene like this one, and sell it with a compilation bonus?

the studios that aren't doing so well are because they think they know it all.
and do not pay attention to my ramblings.
it is very simple, first a model them a whore, and everyone does what each is supposed to do. that goes to you too, cameraman.

dap-addict wrote:It's a clear sign that crisis has also reached GIO.

Don't knock it too much. Sure there are pros & cons, most stuff I wouldn't even look at.

But look at https://www.pornteengirl.com/

Without LP/AV this site would be 60% down on input.

So LP|AV still the giant here, hands-down.

XXX & Giorgio have balls & vision.

I wish them well.

They deserve it.

netzerkaiser wrote:
XXX & Giorgio have balls & vision.

I wish them well.

They deserve it.

Dont you have something to post in your thread about the pet shop boys?
Or maybe a support meeting to attend for people suffering from the Stockholm syndrome?

netzerkaiser wrote:
But look at https://www.pornteengirl.com/

This is actually solid advice. Going to pornteengirl.com is right now the only way to find the latest updates from the real studios without having to sift trough 100 garbage releases from the other "studios". That is what i do.

hjohjole wrote:

netzerkaiser wrote:
XXX & Giorgio have balls & vision.

I wish them well.

They deserve it.

Dont you have something to post in your thread about the pet shop boys?
Or maybe a support meeting to attend for people suffering from the Stockholm syndrome?

netzerkaiser wrote:
But look at https://www.pornteengirl.com/

This is actually solid advice. Going to pornteengirl.com is right now the only way to find the latest updates from the real studios without having to sift trough 100 garbage releases from the other "studios". That is what i do.

So you agree with me right?

I respect your view. But I have to have a shave, shit & shower to go to work in the morning.

Respect Bro:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDe60CbIagg

netzerkaiser wrote:

hjohjole wrote:

netzerkaiser wrote:
XXX & Giorgio have balls & vision.

I wish them well.

They deserve it.

Dont you have something to post in your thread about the pet shop boys?
Or maybe a support meeting to attend for people suffering from the Stockholm syndrome?

netzerkaiser wrote:
But look at https://www.pornteengirl.com/

This is actually solid advice. Going to pornteengirl.com is right now the only way to find the latest updates from the real studios without having to sift trough 100 garbage releases from the other "studios". That is what i do.

So you agree with me right?

I respect your view. But I have to have a shave, shit & shower to go to work in the morning.

Respect Bro:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDe60CbIagg

It's all bollocks, but is James Spader not a class act?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSiqmV13Ffk

Everything is just the way it is.

Dont you have something to post in your thread about the pet shop boys?
Or maybe a support meeting to attend for people suffering from the Stockholm syndrome?

netzerkaiser wrote:
But look at https://www.pornteengirl.com/

This is actually solid advice. Going to pornteengirl.com is right now the only way to find the latest updates from the real studios without having to sift trough 100 garbage releases from the other "studios". That is what i do.[/quote]

So you agree with me right?

I respect your view. But I have to have a shave, shit & shower to go to work in the morning.

Respect Bro:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDe60CbIagg[/quote]

It's all bollocks, but is James Spader not a class act?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSiqmV13Ffk

Everything is just the way it is.

[/quote]

Brother, its all bollocks. Made up 'fantasy' bollocks.

Thats just the way it is.

What’s the big deal. If you don’t like it don’t buy it.

If you think this is a sign of impending doom then you are overreaching.

Is there an easy way to filter out the compilations and the behind the scenes stuff?