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How to make Spanish studios better?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:16 pm
by dap-addict
Spain is still the main destiny point of Latina girls visiting Europe or settling up there. Not to forget also about native local talent ofc. Plus Spain is also an important work and living place for Ukrainian girls, This all makes the few Spanish porn studios ideal starting points for a lot of interesting talent, who may later also wanna work in Prague.

However, studios like PL (https://pornbox.com/application/studio/311) lack professionalism, starting with constant wood problem studs, girls presentation, camera, positions etc etc.

Others like Robin Reids porn introduction studio for GG have sadly gone or at least stopped production many months ago.

I'd like to initiate a discussion how to make Spain a better place again for hardcore porn production.
Any ideas are welcome!
But please lets not discuss girls, but Spanish productions! They were great and funny 20y ago, but sadly that's a long way back.

Re: How to make Spanish studios better?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:18 pm
by dap-addict
Btw, and studios like the famous PB in Madrid are very specialized in content. ;)
But they recruit supermodels sometimes!
:cool:

Re: How to make Spanish studios better?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:47 pm
by YuriyProneBone
By avoiding the unnecessary extra stuff. I feel DAP and TAP are intimidating for some girls because many girls don't want to prolapse, others don't want to do piss. So if they just focus on 1 on 1, 2 on 1, 3 on 1, 4 on 1, 5 on 1, all the way to 15 on 1, just doing regular anal pounding and DP any studio can go a long way without scaring the talent. Plus is cheaper because paying for DAP, buttrose, and piss, is always more expensive anyway, but that goes to any studio regardless of where they are located. Plus the majority of people will be happy with just seeing the girls getting gangbanged in the ass with facials. The extra stuff is always a more niche market. Also not every studios has to look the same. For examples it is super great to dress the girls casually so they look like normal girls and no so much like strippers. More outdoors stuff is always good, swimming pools, balconies, beaches, courtyards, etc., are always good for a change of scenery. If they are going to copy something i would say copy NRX production value. There is a reason why those are the best sellers, and a big part of that is that they use high quality cameras with excellent lighting, the colors look like something straight from Playboy magazine, very high class, and the production doesn't have that white unbalanced colors from Czech studios.

Re: How to make Spanish studios better?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:45 pm
by misangrenegra2
The porn culture in Spain is a bit peculiar and it has change in the 2 last decades.

Currently, categories like bukkakes or MILF are quite popular and they are more into the kind of porn as Brazzers does based on fantasies, fancy locations, more common sex, etc... you can search what kind of porn/pornstars they watch.

As i said, 2 decades ago their porn culture was different, the private porn movies were quite popular, mainly the porn consumed was european, including the local, even they were more rough than the kind of porn that they watch currently. Also there were some interesting directors shooting the european porn style.

Professionals like Toni Ribas, Nacho Vidal and Celia blanco were the most populars local stars in Spain, local porn and european(mostly private movies) were famous, that was the DVD era.

With internet the things changed, american porn growed up being more popular, some local girls like Rebeca Linares starting being more famous in america, even she shooted hard stuff, but at the end of her career she started shoot more soft porn in Brazzers and appeared Bridgette B or similars, that is why they watch more american porn like Brazzers does, their most current popular local sites are "premmiumbukkake" on they shoot bukkakes and "fakings" (Is a soft, small amateur studio, being a very small version of """""""brazzers"""""""", they don't have more than a 1-2% of the brazzers resources being optimistic) with mainly amateur women and guys but is quite popular, some years ago, previously to these 2 studios, there was other popular studio shooting bukkakes very popular.

To be honest, to recruit some girls from Spain they need to scout deeply the most popular sites of the country, there are several of women there surely open to shoot the european porn style but maybe they don't earn too much in this kind of sites, don't have good references to be launched to more professional sites and after a few scenes they left the porn, other surely have their own channels in soft plataforms.

Re: How to make Spanish studios better?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:30 am
by dap-addict
misangrenegra2 wrote:As i said, 2 decades ago their porn culture was different, the private porn movies were quite popular, mainly the porn consumed was european, including the local, even they were more rough than the kind of porn that they watch currently. Also there were some interesting directors shooting the european porn style.

Professionals like Toni Ribas, Nacho Vidal and Celia blanco were the most populars local stars in Spain, local porn and european(mostly private movies) were famous, that was the DVD era.

With internet the things changed, american porn growed up being more popular

Hey, thanks for the local insight! :)
Wasnt aware you are from Spain!

2 decades ago I really enjoyed Toni Ribas dvd, btw! Nostalgia pure grips me again!
Anyway, now I am mainly thinking of the 2 most popular studios you also mention - PB and Studio PL. Only the latter sells their content via pornbox.
Why according to you is their quality so low?
Why they have mainly not woodproof studs only?
Why it seems they can't frame a girl properly and plan a scene really either?
Or is that what the local Spanish users wants and nothing more?
:confused:

Re: How to make Spanish studios better?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:11 pm
by dap-addict
dap-addict wrote:Others like Robin Reids porn introduction studio for GG have sadly gone or at least stopped production many months ago.

This was actually the best Spanish porn studio in last decade. But they shot for GLab, so you have to search for Robin Reid and 1on1 tag to find these Robin Reid performed and directed pearls.
Look at this for example: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/216752 (GLab481) :D :cool:

Re: How to make Spanish studios better?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:39 am
by robin_reid
dap-addict wrote:
dap-addict wrote:Others like Robin Reids porn introduction studio for GG have sadly gone or at least stopped production many months ago.

This was actually the best Spanish porn studio in last decade. But they shot for GLab, so you have to search for Robin Reid and 1on1 tag to find these Robin Reid performed and directed pearls.
Look at this for example: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/216752 (GLab481) :D :cool:

I agree but I give up. I realized that being “the best” as you say, is useless.

Re: How to make Spanish studios better?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:08 pm
by dap-addict
Update: I'm meanwhile in direct contact with Studio PL in Madrid. They asked me to advise them for better DAP positions. They admit, however, that they also have a studs problem.

Re: How to make Spanish studios better?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:02 pm
by zeusanalfreak299
I have posted a lot about this, sometimes also very harsh and too critical, but I just like to put my finger in the wound to bring about improvements. That is because of my profession.

What the Spanish studios should obviously change is:
This is not referred to the BTS scenes, but to the normal releases.

Camera work in general.
I know it's subjective, but currently the style is just like you give strangers the camera and they kind of start filming without any plan or creativity.
It's obvious that the person has no idea about photography and camera work - from focus, frame camera angle and using different camera lenses.

Image stabilization
It is disturbing when the camera shakes like in Gloverfield or a JasonBourne movie. It's hard to focus on details like the model's asshole or her face. Here you should clearly work with gimbles.

Camera angle
It is mainly filmed from the side. You watch but you never have the feeling that you are really there. Therefore more close-ups, tunnel views like Luis (former Sineplex/Gonzo, today Yummy) are missing.

Light and environment
The illumination is okay, it seems too cool. You could get a bit more pleasant tones with warmer light 4000-5000 K.
Otherwise, the environment is top notch, bright and decent with no distracting hues or objects (like NRX).

Sex positions and postures
The models often lie limp on the couch or the male models. The erotic posture is missing. They are not there to cuddle, but to practice hard sex. It seems as if nothing was coordinated beforehand and the models try to agree on the set. Routine and experience are missing here.

Male models
Again, you often think that older average guys from the neighborhood just come along and fuck for free. Few have stamina, a hard long cock and do not actively lead the models in sex.

Re: How to make Spanish studios better?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:22 pm
by misangrenegra2
dap-addict wrote:
misangrenegra2 wrote:As i said, 2 decades ago their porn culture was different, the private porn movies were quite popular, mainly the porn consumed was european, including the local, even they were more rough than the kind of porn that they watch currently. Also there were some interesting directors shooting the european porn style.

Professionals like Toni Ribas, Nacho Vidal and Celia blanco were the most populars local stars in Spain, local porn and european(mostly private movies) were famous, that was the DVD era.

With internet the things changed, american porn growed up being more popular

Hey, thanks for the local insight! :)
Wasnt aware you are from Spain!

2 decades ago I really enjoyed Toni Ribas dvd, btw! Nostalgia pure grips me again!
Anyway, now I am mainly thinking of the 2 most popular studios you also mention - PB and Studio PL. Only the latter sells their content via pornbox.
Why according to you is their quality so low?
Why they have mainly not woodproof studs only?
Why it seems they can't frame a girl properly and plan a scene really either?
Or is that what the local Spanish users wants and nothing more?
:confused:


Sorry DAP-Addict for anwser so late this post.

My perception is that the porn bussiness in Spain has been casualized and it has been trending to be more amateur during these years.

Dont' get my wrong, i speak only of the bussiness it self, not of the professional performers. PB and PL i would say that are ones of the most professional studios: PB i would say is famous because the bukkakes are a popular fetish in Spain but PL i would say is not popular, they release only here? I don´t know how popular is AV in Spain.., at least they bring professional girls.

Then you have that the most popular porn site by far in the country counts with a whole amateur cast (women and guys), is popular because almost everyone can apply to shoot, maybe that the essence of that site and their magic formula to catch the whole attention. Also some other local pornstar have been and are quite popular in USA, so the people too trends to watch other kind of content

Also add the lack of professionals in terms of camera and photography work with experience in this days in porn. Porn is not a great industry like in other countries, is quite hard that some people decide to work in porn, so you only have people with less experience that other porn sites

I posted already that some decades ago the bussiness was very professional, great pornstars and male performers with great connections and friendships with the european porn, some of them shooting for Private, even Nacho and Toni had good friendship with girls like Sophie Evans or Belladonna, even Toni got married with Asa Akira, the bussiness worked pretty well and some great women shooted porn in EU and USA.

The problem in Spain is not that is not possible find girls or guys ready and open to shoot more professional porn than the local porn, we have the prove with girls like Sofia star, Lana bunny, Safira Yakuza, Paola Hard or men like Robin Reid or Chris Diamond and others more.

But i'm my opinion what it happens is that when some girl or boy has an oportunity to shoot out in professional porn studios, they just left the country to work because here the bussiness cannot compite and is some low levels in comparission. At the end what predominate is a bunch of amateur studs or girls.

I saw Robin posted before, surely he can give you a better scenario of what happens

Re: How to make Spanish studios better?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:39 am
by robin_reid
misangrenegra2 wrote:
The problem in Spain is not that is not possible find girls or guys ready and open to shoot more professional porn than the local porn, we have the prove with girls like Sofia star, Lana bunny, Safira Yakuza, Paola Hard or men like Robin Reid or Chris Diamond and others more.

But i'm my opinion what it happens is that when some girl or boy has an oportunity to shoot out in professional porn studios, they just left the country to work because here the bussiness cannot compite and is some low levels in comparission. At the end what predominate is a bunch of amateur studs or girls.

I saw Robin posted before, surely he can give you a better scenario of what happens

I don't think I'm the most suitable person to give a scenario of what happens because I’m kinda lost and disconnected of this biz… I did shot my last GG scene in agust 2021 and then everything stopped. In 2022 I’ve performed only 2 times, for Firstanalquest. Nothing so far this year.