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After lots of protests a few studios start to shoot real goo endings again - usually cum-in-mouth or facials. Still, many studios still shoot a lot of (usually 100%) faked creampie endings or obviously faked facials in NRX-style.

For a long time my explanation for the lack of authentic money shot was a visual shift towards 'piss' making cum-shots less desirable for a majority of users. Not sure however how valid this explanation is?

What is your feeling: Has piss decreased real cum-shots in porn?
If you remember the piss ban (mid 2017 to mid 2018?) this might help to assess effects.

An average load of watery real goo by Falco on Luana Honey in the wet version of GIO2235:

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/211861 (GIO2235)

There are ofc also many aspects of decreased real goo endings, such as...
- overworked/overbooked studs
- studs getting older
- higher value of private life
- consistence problems / graphical visibility
- girls comfort zones
etc.

I do think real cumshots have become less common but I'm not really sure it has anything to do with wet content? Personally I'd be all for a complete ban on guys pissing to see if it helped but I think one or two may object...

I like to see a mix of cum shot finish scenes and piss finish scenes. Ideally in the same scene - gangbang bukkake style cum, then piss to wash girls down afterwards

I don't think the two are linked.
My personal belief is that porn studios will get away with whatever they can. If they could sell us an anal scene where they just lretend to have anal sex they would, 100%.
They have realised that they can pretend to have cumshots via fake creampies especially or even injecting fake cum down the guys urethras (NRX especially, as you say) and people will be fooled.
The annoying part for me is that short of seeing the full 4k or 1080 footage, without the silly trailer editing, it is often nigh impossible to tell whether you are being duped or not before committing to purchase. Obviously fake cum (ie fake cum that doesn't fool me, the viewer) reduces a scenes worth to zero for me: it is like a stain on the whole scene, so this has become a real problem for me on this website.

dap-addict wrote:There are ofc also many aspects of decreased real goo endings, such as...
- overworked/overbooked studs
- studs getting older
- higher value of private life
- consistence problems / graphical visibility
- girls comfort zones
etc.

Where fake cum is used because the girl doesn't want real cum in her mouth I'd prefer the guy came on another part of her body instead. I care much more about the guy looking like he's cum than any of it ending up in the girls mouth, and I'd rather see a weak real cumshot than an obvious fake. I also don't mind if sometimes the guy cums with the girl's mouth closed around the end of his cock, licking/sucking whilst stroking the shaft. To me this can be very hot and can mask weak cumshots.

Mostly though I wish I could 'un-see' that so many cumshots are fake. I'm sure huge numbers of porn buyers don' t realise and this is part of the reason it's done as much as it is.

Ultra-Gape wrote:I also don't mind if sometimes the guy cums with the girl's mouth closed around the end of his cock, licking/sucking whilst stroking the shaft. To me this can be very hot and can mask weak cumshots.

Reminds me of this ending with a newly casted stud thinking his cumshot would be weak and he'd hide it. Poor girl was very surprised! He probably, too! LOL!
This scene: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/201969 (GIO2225)

Now generally for me there is not much of a difference between an inside girls mouth non-show discharge and a fake semen facial. A fake semen facial is more graphic, depending on the girl it can still look hot. Studs shaft stroking isn't attractive for me, girls face is!

I dont think piss content has decreased real cum-shots. Those two things are not connected.

The main reason is: overworked/overbooked studs.
Male cannot produce so much quality thick sperm for the next cumshot if the scene schedules are too tight.

dap-addict wrote:Now generally for me there is not much of a difference between an inside girls mouth non-show discharge and a fake semen facial. A fake semen facial is more graphic, depending on the girl it can still look hot. Studs shaft stroking isn't attractive for me, girls face is!

Note that in my description the girl was the one stroking the cock, not the guy. To me this makes a significant difference.

Ultra-Gape wrote:Note that in my description the girl was the one stroking the cock, not the guy. To me this makes a significant difference.

Didnt read carefully enough, but that's a difference indeed!
Still, with no semen flow visible and easy to fake cum in girls mouth afterwards it doenst really work that good for me. But better she strokes him off, even if he doenst discharge, ofc better!

Yeah, I don't think piss has anything to do with it. In my opinion it's gotta primarily one of two reasons:

1)The girl doesn't want to take a real creampie due to health concerns. This is definately a thing with some models - heck, I remember when even some studios like Evil Angel banned it.

2)The extremely limited male talent pool are shooting so many scenes per day that they literally are unable to cum (or if they did, the amount would be so tiny it would be embaressing.) It would not suprise me if some studios are shooting 2 or 3 scenes back to back on the same day with the same male cast (a lot of whom are probably also shooting amatuer OF-style content with models in their free time anyway) - the guys just cum for real once at the end of the day, and everything before that is faked with injected fake cum. The male talent pool is so small it's no surprise these guys are overworked and can't produce a decent amount of real cum in each scene. Ideally, you'd just solve this problem by getting some more studs in, and increasing the size of the talent pool, but porn companies are always extremely hesitant to cast new males, as they don't want to take a risk. I suspect another factor is the pay is so low for the guys, that if they want to make a career out of this, they have to shoot dozens of scenes per week, no matter how cum-draining it is.

dap-addict wrote:

Ultra-Gape wrote:Note that in my description the girl was the one stroking the cock, not the guy. To me this makes a significant difference.

Didnt read carefully enough, but that's a difference indeed!
Still, with no semen flow visible and easy to fake cum in girls mouth afterwards it doenst really work that good for me. But better she strokes him off, even if he doenst discharge, ofc better!

My original point was that if it's going to be faked I'd rather it was done this way, as there's the ability to give the guy the benefit of the doubt that it may have been real in a way it just flat out isn't with the current Gaviscon or whatever it is that's used for fake cumshots. Seeing no cum is better, to me, than obviously fake cum.

In terms of guys shooting too many scenes, it would be nice to think that directors might prioritise models who don't do this as surely they'd get better performance across the whole scene, not just the finale.

Lol

I can't tell if it's fake.


Anyway, piss is infinitely more impressive than a teaspoon of semen.

I rather watch the girls get fisted to orgasm than watch a man play with himself trying to ejaculate

Conscious_Gentile wrote:I rather watch the girls get fisted to orgasm than watch a man play with himself trying to ejaculate

I don't like watching male piss but on this point I would certainly agree! It had actually occurred to me that there is far more discussion on this forum about cumshots than the girls having orgasms. The latter is sadly very rare but it is something I'm far more interested in! I wish the girls having orgasms was at least some sort of aim in all scenes whereas it really doesn't seem to me.

This thread for example I think should be WAY more active than it is (I last posted some updates in August):

viewtopic.php?f=96&t=16717

Ultra-Gape wrote:

Conscious_Gentile wrote:I rather watch the girls get fisted to orgasm than watch a man play with himself trying to ejaculate

I don't like watching male piss but on this point I would certainly agree! It had actually occurred to me that there is far more discussion on this forum about cumshots than the girls having orgasms. The latter is sadly very rare but it is something I'm far more interested in! I wish the girls having orgasms was at least some sort of aim in all scenes whereas it really doesn't seem to me.

This thread for example I think should be WAY more active than it is (I last posted some updates in August):

viewtopic.php?f=96&t=16717

It was something a female porn star said in the 90's.

She could not understand why male orgasms were the climax of porn.

She wondered why NOBODY in porn made female orgasms the climax of heterosexual porn.

She said women being fisted till they had multiple orgasms was much more beautiful, sexy, exciting than facials.

As a woman in porn, she wanted women being fisted to orgasm to be the climax.

I agree with her.