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Might Veronica Leal have the talent to swap GIO GOAT place with Anna de Ville after going DAP again here is a poll and some material for thought:

Btw, if you have a 3rd GOAT option please name her and tell us why!


This is Anna de Ville's 7th DAP scene after her still US-shot DAPbreakin' by John Strong and Steve Holmes, similarly to Veronica Leals recent GIO DAP shot after a longer DAP break, here just more than 1 year after her 2nd gonzo booking: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/34204 (GIO734)
Anna does her 1st TAP in that scene already, but lets focus on her DAP-ability first:

This is how the scene starts, 2nd take in doggy DAP:
(GIO734)


And this is Veronica Leals 5th DAP, also for Giorgio Grandi, and also after more than 1 year break since her 1st gonzo DAP session. Also worth noting that in her previous Autumn 2020 gonzo booking session she performed only 3 DAPs in 10 scenes, while Anna de Ville performed over 50% DAP scenes in her 1st and 2nd gonzo booking.
(XF133)

Lets go to the crucial cgDAP position posing problems to many girls:

In both reference scenes cgDAP is 2nd position. I have chosen similar footage for better comparison. Both girls still resolve to a cgDP break after cgDAP workout.
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/34204 (Anna@GIO734)
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/206255 (Vero@XF133)

Anna de Ville has still some positioning problems still, but takes a fast DAP-ing already and is pretty much at ease.
(GIO734)


Veronica Leal is actually much better at cg positioning, but she's clinching her fist hinting at an unfavorable pain-lust balance.
(XF133)

Hey, voter, who is your 3rd GOAT option?
Why?

Pornography is one of those things where quantity doesn't equal anything.

Its not like Cristiano Ronaldo, or Gerd Muller, or Jimmy Greaves where you can only admire the statistics.

I'd have the single scene by Tereza, for example over the combined output of both for any kind of 'desert island disc'.

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/30084

dap-addict wrote:Hey, voter, who is your 3rd GOAT option?
Why?

That's me Brother. I could put 100 names in there! So much choice.

rcDAP footage is often good to get a first feeling for further DAP assessment. With most DAPbreakin' scenes this is the position to start with.
But here sadly I can't see much difference in primary DAP-ability: Vero's rcDAP is more spontaneous and way nicer, though. But XF sub label @ GIO is exactly for such experiments while at Anna de Ville's time GIO studio hadnt that format yet. But scenes are directed by Giorgio Grandi himself.

Anna de Ville gets into rcDAP after a rcDP warm-up. Its her 2nd position after doggy DAP. Upper stud is Tiny Tom, which makes it more compatible for comparison:
(GIO734)


For Veronica Leal rcDAP is performed straight without warmup, but only as her 4th and last DAP position. She's obviously already more at ease meanwhile. There is some heart-warming flirting going on!
(XF133)

GOAT - 1) Shrima Malati ( lacking 5on1 at AV )

She has done DAP also , which is not so important to me , but lots of DP .
Also some nice soft BG foot scenes and lez 3somes .

In the future her first rank can even be surpassed by a model who never has done even anal

2) Liv Revamped ( lacking 5on1 at AV )

3) Ginebra -- was on the route to surpass Shrima and Liv but she stopped

I have my all time fav list and there are DP models and non-anal models before Veronica L who is my rank 21 currently --- potential to climb higher is there .

Higher than Vero : Polly Pons , May Thai , Cindy Shine , Kristy Black , Lexi Luna etc...

If Angel Smalls , Avi Love , Tina Kay , Gina Gerson , Belle Claire , Evelina Darling , and Candy ALexa had done more ( interesting ) scenes theys would have been serious contenders also .

PS : Anna de V is just weird ....

ayrtight wrote:Higher than Vero : Polly Pons , May Thai , Cindy Shine , Kristy Black , Lexi Luna etc...

Maybe a 3rd option wasnt wise since it opens doors for highly individual GOATs, while I am rather convinced there is a set of porn acts any GOAT has to do in an over-average quality. A mini-gangbang (minimum 5 studs) would sure be one of those acts, anal and DAP of course as well.

An LP GOAT should at least perform the TOP10 core studio AVLP acts.

dap-addict wrote:

ayrtight wrote:Higher than Vero : Polly Pons , May Thai , Cindy Shine , Kristy Black , Lexi Luna etc...

Maybe a 3rd option wasnt wise since it opens doors for highly individual GOATs, while I am rather convinced there is a set of porn acts any GOAT has to do in an over-average quality. A mini-gangbang (minimum 5 studs) would sure be one of those acts, anal and DAP of course as well.

An LP GOAT should at least perform the TOP10 core studio AVLP acts.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with what you attempted, DAP Addict.

Opinions count. We all get it right sometimes, sometimes we don't... but we learn from things.

Respect to your great efforts always.

^^

This can be discussed .

For ex I am highly for 5on1 but not every model has had the chance to do it or maybe didn´t like so much males around .
Some positions can only be done with 5 or more males , so naturally the models who have got the chance to do these gangbangs have more position variety .
But since I sometimes like to break conventions I like to see models advance in my rankings who for example only have done 4on1 ´s but in a very horny and variegated manner ; but some positions will be lacking in their repertoire .

I could also list my fav top acts suitable for LP .
Btw , DAP is not required there bcuz when I joined Sineplex I did it bcuz of a DVD of 5on1 DP scenes ( Sabrina ) and this criterium has stayed with me until today .

GOAT - Linda Sweet.

In my opinion, GOAT is Brittany Bardot.

Iddaoeeok wrote:GOAT - Linda Sweet.

If it comes to punches thrown, I agree with Iddaoeeok.

What a thread.

[quote="dap-addict"]Might Veronica Leal have the talent to swap GIO GOAT place with Anna de Ville after going DAP again here is a poll and some material for thought:

Btw, if you have a 3rd GOAT option please name her and tell us why!
/quote]

Hi dap-addict,

with pleasure
i will not talk about Khali this time, let's give her a break. Aside of Brazilian slender, I definitely vote for Jessica, so graceful, her beauty hypnotizes me.

why? because her green eyes, blond hairs and smile make a georgous mix. she has a slim body, small but nice tits and a wonderful pussy with 2 big outer lips. this drive me crazy. not to mentien her nice asshole, with this particular pre-gap only, with a nice circular shape, that I appreciate.

i'm talking about her here : viewtopic.php?f=96&t=26097&p=600061&hilit=top+10#p600061

unfortunately, like tereza grande, she didn't do a lot of scene and sorry dap-addict, no DP nor DAP!

Thanks for the doing the poll, dap-addict Yeah 3rd options will likely win since that leaves over 14,000 other choices besides Anna or Veronica. But we will see how it plays out.

dap-addict wrote:

ayrtight wrote:Higher than Vero : Polly Pons , May Thai , Cindy Shine , Kristy Black , Lexi Luna etc...

Maybe a 3rd option wasnt wise since it opens doors for highly individual GOATs, while I am rather convinced there is a set of porn acts any GOAT has to do in an over-average quality. A mini-gangbang (minimum 5 studs) would sure be one of those acts, anal and DAP of course as well.

An LP GOAT should at least perform the TOP10 core studio AVLP acts.

dap-addict wrote:rcDAP footage is often good to get a first feeling for further DAP assessment. With most DAPbreakin' scenes this is the position to start with.
But here sadly I can't see much difference in primary DAP-ability:

3rd position of both Anna de Ville and Veronica Leal in their 5th/7th DAP and thus early workout is reverse king-of-clubs (koc) DAP position. kocDAP in rc and cg gives the girl one of the best opportunity to show their own activity because fucking in this position has to be done by the girl.

Anna de Ville takes this opportunity with great pleasure and fucks those two cocks really nicely, first testing best angle, than fucking them pretty fast and finally setting for sustainable DAPlust. Again she shows how much at ease she's with DAP already.
(GIO734)


Veronica Leal needs some time to position her legs and feet first, but as soon as she finds her rckocDAP position she also plunges into it and starts to fuck her DAP studs with pleasure.
(XF133)

dap-addict wrote:there is a set of porn acts any GOAT has to do in an over-average quality.

For me a GOAT has to gape really fine.
rckocDAP usually has single anal and gape-breaks on the sofa, which makes for a good gape-ability display.

Anna de Ville's gape and her gape-ability has become famous meanwhile, but here you see it was there very early-on already!
(GIO734)


Veronica Leal on contrary has never been a gape-ing girl really. In her 5th DAP scene side-fetish content is shifted to her porn stronghold as an excellent squirter, thus she doenst gape at all. What you also see instead is her bi-inclination and her being a pussy girls rather than the anal girl Anna de Ville is. Its Vero's own quality, also fine, but not the same GOAT philosophy.
(XF133)

Now DAP is central when electing a new GOAT for me. And maybe I should have posted this early DAP footage position comparison of Anna vs. Vero in another context.
Anyway, here goes my basic assessment and why I still voted for Anna, also only based on that 1 early DAP of hers:
1st DAP position: Anna = 5 / Vero = 5
cgDAP: Anna = 7 / Vero = 3
rcDAP: Anna = 5 / Vero = 5
rckocDAP: Anna = 6 / Vero = 4
In case of doubt I would also value cgDAP highest, than 1st > rckocDAP > rcDAP

At the end 2 more rare DAP positions shot towards end of Anna de Ville's 7th DAP:

cgkocDAP:
(GIO734)

fellowed by this really rare bent-over standing DAP position:
This position doenst work esthetically, however, and is soon replaced by a more classical doggy DAP on that sofa. Its already quite a long DAP workout with TP and TAP elements in rc, cg and rckoc positions, but Anna de Ville doenst look tired or worn out yet at all!

Btw, its this GIO734 scene heralding most of her later DAP language with her rc-lotus DAP added latest so far.

...and yet 2 more DAP positions to end the scene showing just a happy girl:

Head down doggy DAP:
How much Anna de Ville enjoys this!


reverse piledrive - or what is that one called? - still not able to finish her off!


A GOAT in the making!
Now this is reference for Veronica Leal and her aim to take over in 8mt!
Go and decide for yourself whether she'll be able to do it...

1 more vote for Valentina Leal!
I try my best to show that she really just starts at an entirely different anal/DAP level than Anna de Ville had reached in her first 5-7 DAP scenes. But than yes, its a forecast into the future!

Anna just does prolapse scenes now, so she's out. Nicole Black if Gio can figure out how to not make all her scenes appear similar. Sevelagia if she came back maybe. Great question. Putting in the research is the fun part!

dap-addict wrote:1 more vote for Valentina Leal!

Hard decision between Valentina Leal and Agatha de Ville.

bake0213 wrote:Anna just does prolapse scenes now, so she's out.

What does that mean?
i.e. GOAT can't prolapse because you dont like it?
I dont like prolapse either but GOAT is an universal term for me rather than a purely individual one. Do I get the GOAT concept wrong?

Looks like some folks have watched my gifs and compared performance actually!

Great gifs and summary indeed. Laid out the evidence without persuading anyone. I've got another poll (totally unrelated) that I'll be sending out soon, thanks for the inspiration, embrace the debate

its a hard decission,
Anna is more nasty and acts allways insatiable....in the right moment the perfect girl...

Veronica seems to be more empathic, more funny and her squirts are hard to top.
Her performances are active but not as nasty, she seems to have more will to please the men.Her skin and body look perfekt ...

So i ve voted for Veronica, but ask me next time it easyly can happen i switch to Anna again...

Difficult call to make to say the least. No wrong answer of course. To me, this cements these 2 as the TOP 2 of all time. 3 choices are Anna, Veronica, or any of all 14,000+ models to shoot on this site and it is pretty much even right now.

This is difficult choice but one that has to be made....I voted for....drumroll.....Anna de Ville. She's just nasty and freaky and does it all and seems to genuinely enjoy it. I have to vote for Anna because she have very few the limits and I always find myself surprised with each performance. Veronica Leal is a worthy GOAT also, best squirts I have ever seen. One can also argue for Sasha Beart in terms of pure sexual behavior

3rd Option GOATS:
Arwen Gold
Goldie Baby
Kristy Black
Linda Sweet
Sasha Beart

GOAT Discussion in Training:
Alexxa Vice

Unreal, an exact dead heat with 3 days left.

Veronica will likely have another DAP scene released the day after the poll closes, if Anna squeaks it out could that timing be the difference?

Anna has that Easter bunny scene advantage, right.
But I hope voters just consider all works of both girls at polling station.

poldijk wrote:Hi dap-addict,
with pleasure
i will not talk about Khali this time, let's give her a break.

Still waiting for Khali Noirs dapping for me, though.
But anyway, you never can't have all, even if you had all money of the world!

You could argue that both Anna and Veronica, are some of the GOATs on LP/AV.

Much like in this generation of tennis stars, Roger, Novak and Rafa are all considered GOATs.
There does not always have to be only one.

dap-addict wrote:

poldijk wrote:Hi dap-addict,
with pleasure
i will not talk about Khali this time, let's give her a break.

Still waiting for Khali Noirs dapping for me, though.
But anyway, you never can't have all, even if you had all money of the world!

Hii DAP addict. Do you know how Anna currently have DAP scenes with last easter release?

Its 124 b/g DAP released for Anna de Ville currently.

Reference: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=18847&start=120#p633663

One last comment on this poll, interesting that a similar poll was done "Queen of Legal Porno" at the end of 2020. Anna ended up the champion and Veronica Leal was in the finals but finished 6th. If you read dap-addicts question "LP GOAT by end of 2022?", and for Veronica Leal to edge out Anna this tells me that adding DAP Veronica Leal has a significant impact on how the fans feel about her.

I still find in interesting that "the field" only got 24% of the vote, meaning all other 14,000 models combined on here got 24% and Veronica and Anna got 76% ust by themselves. I know it is an endless debate but these 2 are the top all-time and the gap between #2 and #3 is humongous!

https://forum.pornbox.com/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=28428&start=40

Yep, Vero doing DAP might be a game changer actually.
But its also because most fans are more concentrated on the girl than her actual performance.

Btw, I am still a bit jealous that Playvaz got those 111 votes end 2020 and me I got only 1/3 in April. Lucky forum poll creator he is!

Looks like we will be settling this one on the field of battle. How perfect is this? 2on2 Part 1 6on2 Part 2, over 2 hours of the best to ever do it at long last


https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/112988

I can't stand Anna de Ville and her boring DAP

I thought I'd post here since 2022 is now over. It is not possible to gauge if Veronica surpassed Anna as this is a personal question for each fan. Just wanted to point out these 2 are 1a and 1b and LP/AnalVids

How about we call the site AnnaVids or change back to LealPorno

Either way they both had incredible 2022, Veronica did some incredible stuff at Gio's in mastery of DAP and super intense stuff for Angelo too. Anna is still just beautiful and perfect with that nasty streak with the milk puking and working with girls like Kaitlyn Katsaros and Alexxa Vice, it never gets old.

No signs of a slow down for either of these two!