EYE-LEVEL VERSUS FROG LEVEL FILMING

[dookiehole]

Here is a list of the camera tactics that infuriate me.
NOT ENOUGH EYE LEVEL:
Not filming the actress from above her, at eye level. Something these studios rarely do. Eye-level viewing is apparently not for sale here.

FROG LEVEL:
Filming the actress from below her waist, from the floor, from below the bed, couch or whatever she's lying on. And then moving off to the side of her, coupled with tipping the scene, and tilting the scene. You can buy this kind of crap all day long here. There's tons of this crap here. I absolutely hate watching this tilted crap.

HORIZONTAL OFF TO THE SIDE:
Filming the actress from the same level as what she's lying on, off to the side of her.

FACE ZOOMING: Zooming in on the actress' face, repeatedly, and lingering there leaving out all the other hot action that is going on

STANDING OFF TO THE SIDE: Even while her legs are wide open, filming the actress off to the side of her, knowing how bad we viewers want to be centered between her.

ZOOMING THE DOG: Nearly all doggie sex with the actress is filmed close-up, 5 inches away from the penetration, off to the side, and rarely centered. Nothing infuriates me more than when the actress is being pounded in her ass doggie style, and the person holding the camera refuses to get directly behind her. That view is not for sale here. And if the camera does get centered behind her, he refuses to back off and let you see the whole enchilada.

The studios know what we want to see. And they're using it against us. Let's face it. Will they ever change? That being said, which one of these shithole camera tactics do you hate the most?

[spam.incorporated]

Didn't think I'd find theory discussion on here, its refreshing. I agree with you. Porn consumption is and has been, by and large, a visceral experience but in the last decade it has even become somewhat more perverse than ever before without consideration for the experiential aspect, if you will. You brought up some excellent considerations on how to humanize and even elevate the experience to a whole new level without gimmickry or gratuity.

One of the main benefit or advantage I feel photos have over videos are exactly as you've outlined. You can enjoy the visual feast at your leisure. Some photo sets do a better job of capturing the model than others but overall, there's a better opportunity to enjoy the model in photos than say a video.

[Jocke]

I think there are many angles not yet tested which could allow for great views. I like under up a lot.

What is most important is that you get a view both of a swollen, slimy butthole and a facial expression at the same time or that there is a matching zoom in zoom out.

It is also important to only move sideways when zoomed out or the movement will be very quick.

Not everyone like watersports but anyhow, this gif captures the action very well.

[Jocke]

This camera guy anticipate the action and zoom in and out as needed

[otto1219]

Unfortunately, you're wasting your time offering constructive criticism of the camera work esp with GG and Gonzo; you get some better angles and pacing with Vira Gold, sometimes with VK, Stalker Prodz.
The attitude here is they know better than you what you like and want.
TBC, I agree with many/most of your points.

You can go to the early output of LP ans see better work.

[dookiehole]

I appreciate the honest responses from you guys. Please choose an answer to the following question:
QUESTION: What is the REAL reason GG and Gonzo and all the studios here, why do they refuse to CENTER their cameras between, under and over the penetration? Why are they are always off-center, off-balance?

a) Because of money. Follow the money. These videos are ALSO sold as "pay-by-the-minute". It is in the studio's best interest that you NEVER cum.
It is in THEIR best interest that you stay online as long as possible, being charged by the minute they will go to the bank on yo ass. This includes all of their affiliates.
So they refuse to show you anything hot to see to keep you from cumming.
The viewer's online experience of frustration, anger, disappointment, these are all INTENDED by the studio. They want you agitated, off-balance, off-center, and never satisfied. It suits their pocketbooks.
When you bitch and complain, they raise their champagne glasses and toast to another successful ripoff of someone's lust, someone's time and someone's money.

b) The Owners of the studios are all gay homosexuals who absolutely HATE heterosexuals. Creating these movies satisfies the hate in them for men who love women. So they create these movies to torture men who love women. Let's face it, these movies are a form of visual torture. Hot, hot, hot, hot women, who are videoed from the shittiest angles, and viewpoints, to the point where you're pulling your goddamn hair out; or you just want to take your computer and slam the fucking thing against the wall.

( My own commentary Both the video AND the photos should be hot to watch. Not just the photos. To hell with that bullshit excuse. People say "go watch the photo set, it's got what you want to see." I say fuck off, I'm not here to see photos. I'm here to see videos. Just show me the view angles I want to see jees what is the big deal. You act like that pussy and ass is diamonds. It ain't!! But you make it scarce don't you, by tilting the scenes, keeping her ass pointed away from us, to where we can barely see it being penetrated.

The center view is rare, a ghost town, a no-fly zone. There are a few good ones, though. And you guys have some of the hottest shit to watch. Which is why I'm still here. But I comb through and preview the videos as much as possible before buying. And I'm passing on so many videos because of your refusal to center us on the penetration. So many videos I would love to buy. Some of my favorite actresses. But I refuse to buy it, because I know for a fact that I will NOT enjoy it. You have no idea how frustrating it is. To be so close to such hotness but not be able to enjoy it, all because the "non-enjoyment" is intended by the person holding the camera and the person editing the film. Pure, fucking hell. These two demons know the desires of the penis, and sit and plot on how to keep it from fully erecting. )

c) The Owners of the studios all cum within an average of 8 to 10 secs after pulling down their pants and slapping some bacon greaae on their tiny little itch. They figure everyone else must be the same, so it's neither in their vocabulary nor in their DNA to make movies that allow a person to fixate on a hot view for 5 minutes. "What the fuck is that" they wonder. They ask, "You want to fixate on a good feeling, on a good view? Customer what the fuck is wrong with you, I don't understand. Sex is an 8 sec ordeal. No such thing as fixation here. Stop being a greedy customer. I'm the greedy SOB, don't try to replace me. Be happy I gave you 20 secs of unchanged view at the end, you dumbfuck greedy customers. Man, the porn customers these days. So horny, so hungry. Let's tease their appetites. Let's dangle the steak in front of them, but never allow them to eat it. That way when they come back tomorrow to our restaurant of sex, we repeat the same shit, and we charge them again for the same steak that they never get to eat." LOL

d) The person holding the camera and the director prefer masturbating on the actress' face rather than watch the penetration. They prefer looking at her face rather than get centered between her legs and look at her ass being fucked. They're face freaks. If you notice their cameras, they're always aimed at her face. And you can just feel the camera, just itching, just can't wait to zoom her face; like they just can no longer hold it, they just have to go to the bathroom and take a shit. I mean you can literally feel it. They guy holding the camera. He's in a constant state of "about to shit". He's constantly rushing toward her face, and standing in front of her face. Face freak. Enjoys fucking the face. Not the pussy nor the ass. Cameraman doesn't want to see that. Nope not interested. But the face? You can literally hear the dogs panting at every opportunity to film her face.

e) The movies are being censored by the Pope. In exchange for a front row seat in Heaven, the studios all agreed to allow the Pope to censor the movies. This is why there is hardly anything to see here. All the hot views are removed, or avoided because the Pope thinks they're too good, too stimulating.

[dookiehole]

Ok that joke was too long.
But Jocke, thank you for your response. But I couldn't disagree more that zooming out sideways is necessary. This is one of those camera maneuvers that I absolutely hate. The hate is absolute. It is interesting you bring it up.

This is one of those "designed to piss you off" camera tactics where they center you up close. Your dick is guaranteed to deflate after they do this shit to you. It goes something like this.
You've been waiting and waiting and waiting for a center view, right between her wide open legs. But the jackass holding the camera is standing off to the side of her. You want to beat the shit out of this guy. You can barely see the penetration. You think "why does this asshole hate me so much? Finally the camera goes in for a close-up view. He approaches sideways, carefully avoiding the center. And when he gets to the penetration, he centers the camera. Her lingers there for a few secs, and then backs out sideways, carefully avoiding the center again, the no-fly zone. Once again, flouting our wishes, our desires, our fantasies, ripping us off, robbing us of our time, all to fill their greedy wallets.

I hope you understand why I spew venom at these directors and studios. I hate them with a passion because they know what I want to see and they're purposely leaving it out.
I never trash the actresses. Never. But I dare the cameramen and directors to set up a rating for their camerawork and editing. I dare them. These cowards force you to rate the actress. She ends up taking the hit for these sorry ass films that reveal nothing of her. They keep her covered up in clothes, bras, stockings, socks, shoes. They film her off to the side of her. The strategy here is: Reveal as little as possible of the actress. The more I think about it, this website is a dumphole for shit views of women.

[otto1219]

But the jackass holding the camera

you hit the nail on the head. He must be GG's brother in law, how else can he continue to be employed. A 12 year old with ADD and an iPhone could often do better.
It is interesting to me, and illustrative to your point, that those low budget sites that have no cameraperson at all often do a better job capturing the action with a couple of GoPros on strategically placed tripods.
IOW, NO camera person at all is better than what GG (especially) and others use.

those tilted angles, like at 45 degrees to the horizontal are called "Dutch" angles, and yes they get very tiresome very quickly

[dookiehole]

Thanks for your reply. I could probably stomach the miserable offside tilted views a little better if I could get rid of this thought in my head that says the cameraman and editor are out to fuck me out of my pleasure. But I can't. Mostly because it's true. How do you enjoy a movie of a hot woman where the person holding the camera, is purposely tilting her away from you? Tell me. How? How do you enjoy a movie where the cameraman is purposely trying to disappoint you? How do you enjoy a movie where everything the asshole cameraman does drives your dick into a state liver? How? You have no choice but to fucking leave. Pornbox is the greediest fucking website I've ever come across. Stingy beyond fucking belief. On average maybe 1 minute of hot footage. The rest of the 60 minutes is off-to-the-side, tilted angled bullshit.

Imagine for a second that instead of buying porn, we're buying a pay-per-view boxing match.
How would you react if the cameraman repeatedly tilted the view of the fight away from you to where you're watching it half-way upside down?
How would you react if the cameraman zoomed in on the boxer's faces, purposely preventing you from seeing the incredible punches that are being thrown?
How would you react if the cameraman continuously held the camera so close to the boxer's bodies, that you miss out on all that is going on? No footwork to see, no view of the arms flying at blazing speed.
I'll tell how you would react, that is if you're not a fucking dead lifeless zombie, You'd want to beat the shit out of that cameraman. Plain and fucking simple. Not that you're going to do it. But that's the end result of watching this tilted shit here, anger, frustration, disappointment, liver and feelings of wanting to beat the shit of these miserable prick ass directors.

You're right about Vira Gold and VK Studio. But right now. Vira Gold is the kindest most generous website to a man's dick. And I'm a sucker for Carla Cage, Sofi Li, and Iris Kiss Kiss. VK is stingy. He doesn't allow very many hot views to get through, keeping most of his shit tilted and off-to-the side.


I really feel sorry for the male actors. They're like slaves, with no freedom. Surely they hate having to stop and gape a girl's ass every 8 secs. Nobody fucks like that in real life. Stop every 8 secs to look down a girls asshole. Nobody fucks like that. It's a fucking gimmick, a worthless piece of shit camera tactic that is used to stop people from jacking off. That's all it is. The male actor stops fucking. Everybody stops. And this shit happens every 8 secs. How can you not hate this website? Check out Amy Doux and Dylan Brown on Giorgio Grandi. Classic example of the overuse of gapes. Just way too fucking overused.

[mr mystica]

Agree!
To me, it's quite simple actually. I don't wanna watch porn in angles where i feel like i am the viewer. It don't need to be pov. Pov done poorly with shaky cams and too much zoom is pointless. I wan't to see the girl and the cock penetrating her while i see her facial expressions. I want to feel the connection. That's what i'm obviously here for....right?
I wanna watch porn with angles that invites me in because i want to feel active instead of passivly watch someone else have a good time. Why? Well.,why do i need to explain what should be obvious? It's beacause i watch porn to act out my fantasy. I don't watch porn like i would watch something on Netflix or whatever....

[otto1219]

@Mr Mystica
I don't think anything here qualifies as POV. This is just lousy camera work, done by a lazy crew. It's been that way for a long while now.
How do I deal? I go elsewhere.
I keep checking here, hoping, but it's rare that I see something that may be interesting, less than 10%.
I will give kudos to XfreaX. Most of their stuff is a threesome, the camera isn't nearly as jumpy, though it still is, the director holds a position longer and the action is pretty hot.
The male background voice sounds like GG, so maybe he is more hands on on these???

[dap-addict]

Interesting discussion I somehow missed to far! Thanks, OP!