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Do actresses' pay vary by studio? How much does an actress who films for Giorgio Grandi earn per scene? And an actor?

800-3000$ (plus 200-300$ additional for wet movies) depending look, performance and experience. 1500$ Average.
But they offer 3-5 movies per visit. So they make around 4500-7500$ per visit.

How much do men earn?

error01x wrote:How much do men earn?

How much do you earn?

Im not a porn actor? xD

200-600 per scene.
Some do 2-3 scenes per day.
But its a really really hard job!

Btw, girls are payed according to sex acts 1on1 anal being the lowest and 10on1 wet TAP being the highest.

Look

guaguancogomez wrote:Look

That's very less, they deserve atleast 1200, give more, get more, a good producer should learn that

dap-addict wrote:Btw, girls are payed according to sex acts 1on1 anal being the lowest and 10on1 wet TAP being the highest.

Don´t forget to mention:
If a girl gets offered a 10on1 wet TAP, she does a 100on1 QAP scene for free.
Because circus crap with 1 inch penetrations is for all models as easy as snapping their finger.

sexaddict251 wrote:

guaguancogomez wrote:Look

That's very less, they deserve atleast 1200, give more, get more, a good producer should learn that

Most AVLP studios pay better than that.
What is strange at N&F also is the little fee difference between DP and DAP, thats usually bigger, but seems they are calculating with girls opting for much less demanding act payed almost same as the much more demanding act. If the add wet to DP they can than earn the same as with a dry DAP.
Also usually if they do more than 4 studs they get a bit more.

If I am a model and a studio offer me 800$, I'll be very much disappointed, if I'm desperate for money I'm going to agree for that money, because I'm worried about loosing my opertunity. I will take the offer but won't be happy. It's kind of exploiting girls, they deserve better. If it's their first movie a producer can say 1000$, but should guarantee a bonus if the movie is selling& achieve a profit. And for wet movies, beginners should get an additional 300$. 800$ so cheap, didn't expect that. Girls should be happy, if they are happy, movie will be good & customers will be happy...

Well, generally fees have risen a lot last 2-3 years.
Its not badly payed. But if an AVLP studio posts on IG that they are looking for girls to do certain sex acts the payment proposed should be motivating. Also if a studio really wants to shoot demanding porn sex acts the difference between little demanding and a lot demanding should be motivating.
800$/1200 is a lot only if a girl is in real big need for money. Most AVLP studios pay considerably more even for beginners.
Adjusting payment to sales is too complicated, though. Studios have to be able to forsee possible sales and propose a fee accordingly. All other options are too much paperwork.
Down the line is that payments proposed need to be motivating enough for a girls good performance, but over-payment is also not sustainable.

dap-addict wrote: 800$/1200 is a lot only if a girl is in real big need for money.

edit: Meant 800/1000$ ofc.

Producer/director should have an idea, if the girl is good looking(not beautiful, hot/sexy, beautiful & sexy are different, hot Gil's sell) director/producer should offer sn amount range like "We offer 800-1200 for beginners depending performance" So she will get an idea, she will ask what she has to do to improve her performance, so director and model both are happy...

Good idea, but fee is usually set before performance starts during booking process.
Experienced studios are well able to force sales prospects, this is why studios often add wet with way less attractive rookies to boost sales.
Problem is if a girl is talented but had starting issues and lower sales. To get her to next level is an uphill fight. Once re-booking is fixed and girls performed and sold better she can expect higher rates ofc. This said going rates for rookies still have to reflect difficulty in performing single anal vs. DP vs. DAP. Too little going rate differences de-motivate girls from trying more challenging porn sex acts.

edit: Foresee or anticipate, not force, ofc!

Then say 800€+ upto 300$ bonus* in the agreement (*Condition: Studio can decide and has the right to change the bonus amount depending performance, sales and other internal factors. The bonus payment will be payed in cash only after the production of video. studios should put this statement in their agreement)
To know what's a good performance studio should share 2 videos to the models(one good & one bad)

And studios choosing unattractive models is not a good idea, Reducing the Numbers of videos released per day is the best option, but quality should be good. Problem is people have no enough money to buy the videos, a studio releases atleast 30 movies per month, a customer purchases 5-10 movies per month depending their personal interest. This won't change even if increase the quality, but will go below 5 if the quality is bad. So the best option is reducing the number of moves related per month. Contents from amateur studios should be reduced, they can be problem to core studios.

sexaddict251 wrote:Then say 800€+ upto 300$ bonus* in the agreement (*Condition: Studio can decide and has the right to change the bonus amount depending performance, sales and other internal factors. The bonus payment will be payed in cash only after the production of video. studios should put this statement in their agreement)
To know what's a good performance studio should share 2 videos to the models(one good & one bad)

Too complicated, too much paperwork, too much time lost better invested in shootings.
Anyway, there are the going rates which are sex act (+ side fetish + number of studs above 4) based of each studio. Some pay worse and some pay better. Girls get a clue fast... At least N&F is very transparent about their base payment offer!
But that rate wont attract slightly welknown girls with more AVLP studio offers I am afraid. Look who they shoot lately and you see whats in the bush. This said some girls sure get more for DAP.

sexaddict251 wrote:If I am a model and a studio offer me 800$, I'll be very much disappointed

That price of 800 is in Euro currency, not Dollar $. But just for you to know, in Budapest there are companies that pays 700€ for DP and they have the models all the fucking day on set with tons of photos, tons of comedy and cinematic sequences and lot of production bullshit.

There is a wellknow former model recruited by me and that she was top seller on Analvids that in Budapest she arrived to her apartment literally crying because she felt cheated, and with reason. She was paid 700€ for a DP scene after 12 hours on set in a very long cinematic shooting, from these 700€ she had to pay a 10% of fee commission to the agency, but wait, not only this, she had to pay another 20 or 30€ to the driver (shooting was outside Budapest) and you know what?? the driver was one of the actors she worked with. Production was not able to provide to her the transportatiom from her apartment to the location. At the end of the day she finished with about 600€ DP shooting 12 hours on set, and I’m not counting that she was paying also her own accomodation, air ticket etc…

800€ DP scene with the fast gonzo style from the prague studios is a good price.

That's cruel, anything below 1200$ can't be justified. It's not right to exploit them.

Did she cry? Poor Girl..
Karma will get those who made her cry...

1200$ for what?
I said already that high of fees are porn sex act based.
In 2000-05 in Prague there was a rule of thumb that 1 DP pays about as much as Czech average monthly income. Meanwhile wages have risen a lot after EU accession 2004 and DP might be slightly below that rule of thumb. But for girls from outside big cities it is still a very competitive fee, and you have to be aware that its only for 3h work usually, plus you may add 3h commuting back and forth. Not bad at all!

Angela Merkel has a lot of free time now and wants to shoot LP scenes for 10 Euro plus a plate of warm soup.

When I see high of pay, some things are starting to make sense. Except prices of some scenes.

RUShersgapersrises wrote:When I see high of pay, some things are starting to make sense. Except prices of some scenes.

If end user pays 8,7tkt for a 7on1 wet DAP that makes about 5$.
Now try to count girls fee + 7x studs fee + 8x wet supplement pay + studio rent + MU + cameraman + camera and tech investment + editors + server fees plus plus plus and than you tell me 5$ was a very high price?

dap-addict:

I want see girls not XY studs and then with 2 or 3 is possible shoot great scene and the rest can go to girl.No price is high enough for what some girls have to endure and the best of them here should be paid much better, SPECIALLY YOUNG TALENTS IF WE WANT TO SEE THEM ANYMORE.I don't want them to be exploited. And it's also about length of scene when lots is longer than 1h but maybe more then half is skipping. Old scenes were around 1/2h+ but I saw more exciting action. And still when I notice something close to it I buy it perhaps for 10tkt.

And i have 1 more question.How long it takes before it comes out scene here from the moment of shooting?

RUShersgapersrises wrote:dap-addict:
I don't want them to be exploited. And it's also about length of scene when lots is longer than 1h...

Dont worry, girls dont get exploited at AVLP.
Even sounding pretty low N&F fee is still a good fee for any girl living close by and not loosing too much time to commute. For an easy to perform DP its still 2 weeks of average Czech wages. Hardly a payment to complain about for a job of 3-4 hours max.!
Note that actual cut scene length is not related to shooting time on set, ie. girls dont work longer for 1h end product, they may work just a bit bitter in 2021 than they did in 2014 though, but again its mainly meanwhile more experienced film crews work, girl just does her job as studs do.

In Europorn historical terms DP 10y. ago was still payed about 1mt of average Czech income. Meanwhile that fee is down a bit, yes indeed. But its still no exploitation at all!
Finally all studios have to offer competitive prices - lest they dont get girls working for them. Its a simple supply and demand system in porn working very well for years already. If studios have problems finding willing girls of certain porn sex acts or porn fetishes they automatically rise payment until they get enough attractive girls willing to perform what they need again.

dap-addict

dik za info,jen poznamecka - prum.plat myslis tech 39k co dneska nikdo nema? konkurenceschopné ceny - tady se nabizi otazka jestli zde neni snaha o kartel od studii...

Yes, but girl cant do this more then few years and also not every week. On how they (some) suffer is 2 weeks wages still a little.

I once saw selvaggia's [spam] comment, she had to wait 3 months to get another movie, she was a little depressed, after 2 or 3 months i heard her retirement news, she was not happy. Most are doing it for money, but they get only a little...

RUShersgapersrises wrote:dap-addict

dik za info,jen poznamecka - prum.plat myslis tech 39k co dneska nikdo nema? konkurenceschopné ceny - tady se nabizi otazka jestli zde neni snaha o kartel od studii...

I thought the same actually!
39k CZK is really much, hardly average wage.
But than lets say its 30k for instance in reality: It just makes DP payed better in comparison, i. e. not 2 weeks average wage, but almost 3 weeks average wage. And this again shows even more that these girls are not exploited at all by porn studios, but actually proposed very good wages for 3hours of work.

The problem with paying too much for a scene is that it can be unrealistic long term, and not sustainable.

So if a girl gets a high paying shoot she will likely expect the same in the future, and if it doesn't happen because the market doesn't allow it anymore, then she can lose motivation, and that's another actress we may not see again.

In an ideal world you want to see the same hot girl doing 70 to 80 anal scenes with balls deep prone bone and multiple BBCs. It sucks when we lose hot girls only after a few scenes.

sexaddict251 wrote:If I am a model and a studio offer me 800$, I'll be very much disappointed, if I'm desperate for money I'm going to agree for that money, because I'm worried about loosing my opertunity. I will take the offer but won't be happy. It's kind of exploiting girls, they deserve better. If it's their first movie a producer can say 1000$, but should guarantee a bonus if the movie is selling& achieve a profit. And for wet movies, beginners should get an additional 300$. 800$ so cheap, didn't expect that. Girls should be happy, if they are happy, movie will be good & customers will be happy...

This just in: porn exploits girls.
Why would they pay higher if they can get women to do it at the current rate?

Girls become sex workers only because they are so desperate for money, porn movies give them publicity, so some get invited to private parties & yatch parties, and some get hired for personal pleasure by some rich guys, but they hire only hot and sexy girls, only 10% belong in that category. 90% of them don't make much, poor girls... can't say studios are exploiting them, but if studios make more than they expected girls should get a bonus in my opinion. But another problem is, if the studio makes less than what they expected, no one is going to help that studio. Everyone is struggling to survive actually... For a shelter, a partner & 3 meals/day. We are all slaves of this system...

And besides, there are other things off camera, girl must train to show what we want to see. E.g Isabella Clark says in one intro of video where shows one of the bigest gape that she train along 2 months (and there are other physical things to learn). And things related to travel..if it is local maybe,im not sure. And if gets some tattoos or boob jobs...I still think that wages are not enough even if some still go for it and all this together means that we lose hot girls only after a few scenes. Its industry machine on which is feeding more and more "entitys".

And dap-addict please answer me how long is between scene is shooting and when released here...thx

We are all slaves of this system...
It reminds me of a memorable dialogue from Matrix. It is said there, among other things, that slaves will defend that system. The biggest problem is slaves will never connect, unlike the psychopats above that have been connected a long ago. So look mate sexaddict251,if you could cancel/ban one thing, only one thing, which it would be?

This system...

RUShersgapersrises wrote:And dap-addict please answer me how long is between scene is shooting and when released here...thx

Well, it varies:
Sometimes its just 2 days and sometimes its 2-3mt.
Average is around 1-2mt.


Btw, although average monthly income is forecasted a bit too high and in most countries average income of capital can never ever be reached in province I put together this plus-minus guide of how much a girl can earn by performing a simple easy to perform dry DP for AVLP in Prague:
Ordered according best payed to least payed for actress:

Ukraine + Moldova = 8 weeks of average local wage
Russia = 5 weeks of average local wage
Hungary + Slovakia + Poland: 3 weeks of average local wage
Czech = 2 weeks of average local wage
Austria = 1,5 weeks of average local wage
France + Britain = 1 week of average local wage
Germany = 0,8 weeks of average local wage

Now if you ever asked yourself why we have more Russian porn girls than French porn girls, here is the main answer!

dap-addict wrote:

RUShersgapersrises wrote:And dap-addict please answer me how long is between scene is shooting and when released here...thx

Well, it varies:
Sometimes its just 2 days and sometimes its 2-3mt.
Average is around 1-2mt.


Btw, although average monthly income is forecasted a bit too high and in most countries average income of capital can never ever be reached in province I put together this plus-minus guide of how much a girl can earn by performing a simple easy to perform dry DP for AVLP in Prague:
Ordered according best payed to least payed for actress:

Ukraine + Moldova = 8 weeks of average local wage
Russia = 5 weeks of average local wage
Hungary + Slovakia + Poland: 3 weeks of average local wage
Czech = 2 weeks of average local wage
Austria = 1,5 weeks of average local wage
France + Britain = 1 week of average local wage
Germany = 0,8 weeks of average local wage

Now if you ever asked yourself why we have more Russian porn girls than French porn girls, here is the main answer!

you can not compare France and Russia, as in France there are 67 million ppl and in russia 144 millions (more than double).

Average means that if I have 2 chickens and you have 0 chickens, we have in average one chicken each and we are both happy.

To get a job is more complicate in France and Italy for example, then in east europe.
So, even if in east europe the average salary is maybe relatively low comparing the salary in Italy (and it is not that much lower in by city), the main issue is that in italy youth employment is 35% and in Cz 5% and life cost double in italy that czech republic (for example)

So, there is not anymore a relation between average salary and porn, but the relation is now between employment and porn.
The higher the employment, the more models are available for porn.

Also,
Europe is the new primary source of models as employment is growing exponentially and borders are well open to czech republic.
Russia is too much isolated to count on it as a reasonable source of model.

sexaddict251 wrote:This system...

Thats too general an answer. Moreover, everyone imagines under term "system" something different. As for me it would probably be money, the INTERESTED money.I would still have to think about it, but this is, in my opinion, the root of all evil.

And as for the last posts,desperate people do desperately things and that's water for the mill .. So if you think about these strugglin girls as about sources, I have nothing more to say. Let everyone make their own opinion about it together with the rest written here.

RUShersgapersrises wrote:Thats too general an answer.
And as for the last posts,desperate people do desperately things and that's water for the mill .. So if you think about these strugglin girls as about sources.

It's not a general answer, I'll change this system, if I survive, I know how to do it... Not today or tomorrow, but soon... No one will see me coming.

Not just those girls, everyone is struggling.

Someday, after a 100,000 years they are going to see this message, To them... "I was here, I had the potential to change everything, but you never wanted me to..."

dap-addict wrote:200-600 per scene.
Some do 2-3 scenes per day.
But its a really really hard job!

Btw, girls are payed according to sex acts 1on1 anal being the lowest and 10on1 wet TAP being the highest.

I wonder what kind of day they had when some choose the 10on1 xD...

"Yeah... lets do that" ROFL