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What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby dap-addict » Sat Aug 21, 2021 8:59 am

August is not over, but I see some tendencies that could dominate production soon:
https://pornbox.com/application/store/b ... ers/2021/8
Based on the top 10 so far.

1) DP only overtaking DAP: 7 DP vs. 3 DAP scenes
2) Dry breaking way back: 4 wet vs. 6 dry scenes
3) Teen/18-21yo surge: 5 teen vs. 4 MILF scenes
4) skinny vs voluptuous balance: Berlin and Kelly Oliviera
5) Innovation rewarded with higher sales: N&F Lotterie and gonzo TPP

All in all I see a back to basics drive: Just good ol' intense fucking.

Me, personally I like teen surge and dry tendency. Also innovation being rewarded.
DP overtake is built on very high model popularity (Vero Leal, Berlin, Kelly Oliviera) but future tendency I am afraid because there is clearly a backlash.
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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby ExtremePornFan » Sat Aug 21, 2021 1:19 pm

So far I have bought about 50 scenes in August. Only 3 are in the top 10, I may still buy a few more. The best scene I have watched from end to end is Triple anal Rebecca Sharon Vs 5, PAF025 https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/217741 I can't even find it on the best seller list. I don't know what to think of it. Without knowing the gap between placing on the list it really does not tell us much anyway.

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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby Starrio » Sat Aug 21, 2021 1:58 pm

I'm still waiting for my 48 tickets this month, I was supposed to get them yesterday, but nothing yet, so hopefully today they'll send them, I think I have at least 20 scenes I want right now, so I may have to refill after I get my regular tickets.

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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby dap-addict » Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:24 pm

ExtremePornFan wrote:So far I have bought about 50 scenes in August. Only 3 are in the top 10.

I bought only 11 August scenes so far.
Only 2 are in the top 10.

This said OP was about trends I see and some of which make me anxious a bit, others I approve.
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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby dap-addict » Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:28 pm

Btw, would be 3 in the top 10 for me, but I bought the dry version which didnt make it there.
Bought dry to save 1tkt. ;)

Starrio: That would make 7 or even 8 re-loads in August for you than?! :cool:
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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby pomegrante » Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:29 pm

ExtremePornFan wrote:So far I have bought about 50 scenes in August. Only 3 are in the top 10, I may still buy a few more. The best scene I have watched from end to end is Triple anal Rebecca Sharon Vs 5, PAF025 https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/217741 I can't even find it on the best seller list. I don't know what to think of it. Without knowing the gap between placing on the list it really does not tell us much anyway.


Completly different scenario for me, I have found this months releases really disappointing , only bought two, one of them the Rebecca Sharon scene mentioned. Looks like it sold quite well , 14 on best sellers list.

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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby ExtremePornFan » Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:30 pm

I was wrong. I was pulling a dry list. I have 5 of the top 10. Now it seems better. I think this needs to be revisited when the month is over.

Colombian piss drinkers Daniela Ortiz and Alicia Trece assfucked together with DAP SZ2685 https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/216579 Is at 15 right now. I am watching it right now. These Columbia dick biters deserve better from us. Let's make it #1

Triple anal Rebecca Sharon Vs 5, bbc, interracial, DAP, TAP, 0%pussy, fisting, Rimming, Piss in gape, prolapse PAF025 https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/217741 is #14

Fucking Wet, Emily Pink, 4on1, Balls Deep Anal, DAP, DP, Big Gapes, Almost ButtRose, Pee Drink, Squirt GIO1854 https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/217831 is #33 What???

Wild as Fuck Wet, Adeline Lafouine, 5on1, Fisting, DAP, ButtRose, Pee Drink, Creampie Swallow, Cum in Mouth GIO1892https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/217745 is #12.

7on1 Double anal Gang Bang goes Wet, Sandra Soul, 7on1, DAP, Gapes, Pee Drink, Creampie Swallow GIO1911 https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/217749 is #20 ?? That is a good one.

Those are my favorites so far. I did even start to watch

Florane's sinful roulette - Florane Russell and Lilly Veroni DAP DPP DP Anal Piss + BONUS BEHIND the SCENE NF118 https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/217833

And a bunch of others that look pretty good too. Bump the post at the end of month and we will see if it trends in the right direction. :D

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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby Starrio » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:12 pm

dap-addict wrote:Starrio: That would make 7 or even 8 re-loads in August for you than?! :cool:


Not really, when I said 6 reloads I meant since July 20th, which is when my month started, and I probably did 2 of those while we were still in July.

Keep in mind I also get a lot of older scenes, not just new ones, but I get many new ones too.

By the way, I think I got my 48 tickets already, so those are good news.

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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby Jocke » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:33 pm

I guess we all have different tastes.
My priorities are:
1. Great looking and acting performers who love what they do
2. More than one girl, prferably one guy three girls
3. No or low violence. A butt slap is ok but choking or obvious pain goes away.
4. Girls pissing, preferably on men

Anything with Stacy Bloom, Tabitha Poison, Polly Petrova, Eden Ivy, Anna DeVille, Moona Snake, Cherry Kiss, Francesca Palma, Jessy Jay. Elisabetta Zafiro.

I found the recent Eden Ivy/Anna Deville pissing on Yanick Shaft to be exactly to my wishes. https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/217915
Also the Cherry Kiss/Lana Bunny pissing party was perfect https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/217646

I still think N&F are wasting great sex by having a camera guy who cannot focus and often cuts the girls head out, otherwise their innovation is great!
Can we have guys licking the girls' anal gapes Mike Adriano style, while the girls are pissing, please!

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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby beklof » Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:51 am

Interesting! For me, firstly the less wet stuff, the more likely I am to stay a subscriber. Secondly,the less slapping, manhandling, spitting the more likely I will stay as a subscriber.

Dp versus dap? Dap but only if it is done properly and filmed well. I recently watched a 2016 production featuring Belle Claire in a dap video. Win today's dap videos 100-0! Why? A more beautiful girl. Belle is also incredibly natural in everything! She is the perfect dap girl! Then camera work is much better. Excellent viewing angles and more close-ups. Also, when today you don’t really see any scenes at all where all the holes are penetrated at once,then in 2016 Belle gets a dick in every hole at once and it’s really exciting.

An interesting question ... is the current camera crew different than 2016? Or have the principles of filming changed? If they are then clearly in a worse direction. 2016 also sees more position versions in dap than today. I ask myself the possible reasons for the above? Is it the case that dap is already such a routine for AV / LP production that everything is also done with a mere routine. Everything innovative shines with its absence.

Teen versus milf? I really like both equally. So I definitely want to see both in the future as well.

Gangbang? I still don't understand what's the point of 10,9,8 etc on 1 stuff? 2,3,4 on 1,it makes sense and it works.

I want to see a better climax where they cum in mouth. I’ve always wondered why in AV / LP productions a man masturbates himself like we viewers were gay. Why a girl doesn’t masturbate a man like it should be. Like this: The girl sucks and licks a man and then directs the sperm in her mouth. What is impossible here for AV / LP production? One more thing. When a girl has sperm in her mouth do not shoot it from 5 meters away! It needs to be shot in close up! What is unclear to you here too !?

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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby Starrio » Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:06 am

I can't choose just a few girls, so I admire people that can. I do have the ones I like that I always buy like Vivian Grace, Liza Shay, Parish, Queenlin, Iris Kiss Kiss, Whitneko, Liz Vogue, Monroe Fox, Alexa Flexy, Regina Moonshine, etc., but the very big majority of videos on my library is interracial stuff from Gonzo and GIO.

I love all the manhandle stuff too, and I like the big gangbangs as well, but facials would be better if they cover the whole face and not just the mouth.

I do like N&F too, they do great with the costumes, and I don't even need any eye contact. In fact, I only seek POV on VR. For regular 2D stuff I'm just happy to see the girl getting pee on the face and fucked in the ass.

I also collect pretty much everything from Bruno and those beautiful Colombian girls, and my Interracial Vision library has been growing steadily too. I know Interracial Vision doesn't make videos anymore, but they have a lot of missing gems in to choose from.

In terms of girls I want to see doing BBC stuff with LP it would be Stefany Kyler, Lika Star, Alya Stark, Lilly Bella, Ariana Van X, Lola Myluv, Casey Nice, Leanne Lace, Stacy Cruz, Jenifer Jane, Jenny Wild, Freya Mayer, and Elena Vedem.

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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby dap-addict » Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:40 am

Jocke wrote:I guess we all have different tastes.
My priorities are:

Its about tendencies first.
Than later you can of course compare them with your own priorities and draw conclusions on whether direction you see sales moving is good for you as an individual user.
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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby dap-addict » Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:01 am

To make above said more clear:
dap-addict wrote:August is not over, but I see some tendencies that could dominate production soon:
https://pornbox.com/application/store/b ... ers/2021/8
Based on the top 10 so far.

1) DP only overtaking DAP: 7 DP vs. 3 DAP scenes
2) Dry breaking way back: 4 wet vs. 6 dry scenes
3) Teen/18-21yo surge: 5 teen vs. 4 MILF scenes
4) skinny vs voluptuous balance: Berlin and Kelly Oliviera
5) Innovation rewarded with higher sales: N&F Lotterie and gonzo TPP

All in all I see a back to basics drive: Just good ol' intense fucking.

April 2021 was like this: https://pornbox.com/application/store/b ... ers/2021/4

1) DAP clearly in lead, DP marginal: 7 DAP vs. 2 DAP/1 1on1 anal scenes
2) wet selling better than dry: 6 wet vs. 4 dry scenes
3) Teen-MILF balance: 3 : 3
4) skinny vs voluptuous balance rather (same as 4 later)
5) no innovation

Now you can adjust this list for your individual user needs ofc as far as you get a tendency out of it, a possible change of customers priority reflected in sales.


Btw, some of my user wishes like stockinged heel pops are always low and I dont see any change for ages. LOL!
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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby 101mike101 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:16 pm

I can see another trend here. 0% pussy scenes are becoming more popular at this website. According to pornbox best sellers list:

January 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 61 out of 461, which is 13%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/1

February 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 37 out of 401, which is 9%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/2

March 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 40 out of 462, which is 9%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/3

April 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 60 out of 452, which is 13%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/4

May 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 90 out of 456, which is 20%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/5

June 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 121 out of 453, which is 27%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/6

July 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 162 out of 473, which is 34%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/7

And so far in August of 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 119 out of 342, which is 35%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/8

All of a sudden 0% pussy scene have become a lot more popular at this website. And it's not because more 0% pussy scenes are being made. Most of these best sellers were made in the past and not in the current month.

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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby 101mike101 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:30 pm

101mike101 wrote:I can see another trend here. 0% pussy scenes are becoming more popular at this website. According to pornbox best sellers list:

January 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 61 out of 461, which is 13%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/1

February 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 37 out of 401, which is 9%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/2

March 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 40 out of 462, which is 9%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/3

April 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 60 out of 452, which is 13%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/4

May 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 90 out of 456, which is 20%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/5

June 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 121 out of 453, which is 27%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/6

July 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 162 out of 473, which is 34%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/7

And so far in August of 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 119 out of 342, which is 35%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/8

All of a sudden 0% pussy scene have become a lot more popular at this website. And it's not because more 0% pussy scenes are being made. Most of these best sellers were made in the past and not in the current month.


Ooops. Apparently I misunderstood what the best seller list is. I've checked it out some more, and all of the scenes on the best sellers list were made in the current month. So, perhaps porn makers are now making more 0% pussy scenes, and they are popular too.

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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby Jocke » Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:42 pm

dap-addict wrote:
Jocke wrote:I guess we all have different tastes.
My priorities are:

Its about tendencies first.
Than later you can of course compare them with your own priorities and draw conclusions on whether direction you see sales moving is good for you as an individual user.


Sorry, I just wanted to tell that I find scenes to my liking and things I have asked for is appearing more frequently. Not long ago no guys where taking Golden Showers and now we have Mark Dozer, John Price, Oscar and even Yannick! Pee between girls is growing and my favorite at the moment.

I have no idea if DAP's are more or less common than Dp because that is not what I am looking for. In my opinion the best anal is one dude fucking three girls balls deep one at a time while the other two waiting are exposing their gapes. What I do note is that pissing is becoming more elaborate, advanced and varied which is a great thing for us fans of watersports.
Can we have guys licking the girls' anal gapes Mike Adriano style, while the girls are pissing, please!

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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby dap-addict » Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:05 pm

101mike101 wrote:
101mike101 wrote:I can see another trend here. 0% pussy scenes are becoming more popular at this website. According to pornbox best sellers list:

January 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 61 out of 461, which is 13%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/1
(...)
July 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 162 out of 473, which is 34%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/7

And so far in August of 2021: 0% pussy scenes were 119 out of 342, which is 35%.
https://pornbox.com/application/store/best-sellers/2021/8


Ooops. Apparently I misunderstood what the best seller list is. I've checked it out some more, and all of the scenes on the best sellers list were made in the current month. So, perhaps porn makers are now making more 0% pussy scenes, and they are popular too.

Interesting observation! :cool:
Thanks for these numbers, too!
Now it might be more 0% pussy is released in the given month, but shot it is actually often much earlier, usually 1-2mt at least. Also to find out about popularity you would have to single out some TOP seller sample. I based my OP on TOP10, but it can be also TOP33 or TOP100. Listing all scenes of the given month doesnt say anything about popularity really.
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Postby justinwarren41 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:08 pm

Interesting discussion here. So far in September, 5 of the top 10 have Piss. It may been leveling off some but what is funny is there's hardly any established girls at Gonzo or Giorgio's that don't do piss. I was reminded of this when May Thai came back and finally did it. What girls do not do it? I'm not considering Nicole Black active. Any girls that have say more than 10 scenes? Polly Pons is the only one that comes right to mind.

It is here to stay, don't have details on PISSVIDS.COM site yet. There's nothing active on the site yet but I think things have softened regarding credit cards rejecting payment for piss content. I'm in the US and I can view the piss version but it doesn't show up on the New Videos screen in the 'store'. Once I go to the model page and choose the link, I am able to see it and add it to my library and download. Previously I had to through a VPN to not show I was in the US.

The No Pussy trend pleases me of course as that's my preference so as long as there's enough everybody tastes, we'll be good.
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Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:49 am

Piss sells, any scene with pissing performs better than ones without.

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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby justinwarren41 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:27 am

Yep, should sell better in the future. My 'store' page without a VPN shows all the piss versions here in the US. No obstacles at all to access wet content now...
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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby xxxEVOxxx » Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:30 am

Pissing sells well, as does scenes where models wear and keep their sexy high heels/boots and stockings on.

That is what we can learn from Aug 2021 sales, or sales from any month or any year in general...

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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby ryukenmaster666 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:56 pm

I am not sure high heels or stocking really sells (besides some fetishist). Personaly I can't name a scene I bought where the girls have it. There are for sure, but I don't pay attention at all and I don't think it is really determinant (IMHO) when buying a scene
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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby justinwarren41 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:50 pm

Just scanning the Top 10 for each month, September ended up with 8/10 No Pussy and only 2/10 with Piss (Barcelona and Kelly Oliveira dominating which were all dry releases). New girls are more likely to go DP and dry but once they are broken in, look out.

October so far 2/10 No Pussy but back up to 5/10 with Piss. It all depends on what is being released, girls etc but I think we'll soon be over 50% for the top sellers for both No Puss and Piss content. I think Barcelona and Berlin will be 1 and 2 on the final October unless Kelly Oliveira's Piss DAP debut can challenge.

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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby dap-addict » Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:59 pm

justinwarren41 wrote:Just scanning the Top 10 for each month, September ended up with 8/10 No Pussy

So much no puss/0% pussy?
I ask since I had impression Sept was an extremely pussy friendly/DP friendly sales month.
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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby justinwarren41 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:05 pm

Yea, I could have lost track. It bounces between the version that includes dry only and wet/dry. Sorry bout that
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Postby dap-addict » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:26 pm

And what about 0% pussy vs. DP?
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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby justinwarren41 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:51 pm

Correction, Sept only 2 of the Top 10 were No Pussy not 8/10, currently in Oct it is at 5/10
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Re: What we can learn from August 2021 sales

Postby justinwarren41 » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:58 pm

I know this topic was for August sales and trends but wanted to mention something.

Looks like Kelly Oliveira will take the November sales crown, no surprise there. Long wait for the DAP No Pussy with Piss, I'm nervous that there is nothing left to be released so we will be in a dry spell.

Anyway, right now Lia Ponce's 4on1 Piss DAP Gonzo debut is #64 and Yenifer CHP is #71. Even established girl like Silvia Soprano Basined is all the way down at #66 for the month of November. Do these number seem right? Is there an error somewhere or do my tastes just not line up with the majority. That would be fine but it just seems off. Silvia is an established actress and Basined is very popular series. I thought there was a lot of anticipation of another Colombian (and Venezuelan) in Prague. The Emily, Daniela, Alicia, and Natasha will be the #1 video for 2021 outside of a Christmas orgy taking it's place.

Wondering if I'm missing something and someone can explain this
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