Great post steverino. That is exactly my views on the subject.
That Briana Banks scene was also one of the hottest scenes of all time. I still watch that scene that starts in the public toilet.
Many people have much to say about Max Hardcore IMHO he used every trick in the book to persuade, coerce, shame and intimidate models to do hardcore shit. In fact he was a master at it and although not nice it was nothing illegal and nothing that regular companies don’t pull on employees in the real world all the time. He prayed especially on naivety
His questionable methods aside he is the greatest pornograpgher of all time.
He knew the power of the camera and what he wanted to achieve. Every shot and angle was about the viewer. Everything that happened he need to catch on camera for the viewer to see at home. It wasn’t about him getting off, per se, it was about showing the result on camera.
Another of Max’s powers relates to my first point. Getting a model on her limit. Max understood this as a fundamental part of shooting a good scene.
Being on the limit.
Some of his scenes were super hardcore and some basic anal. The difference was he knew exactly where the limit was with each model and he would persuade, coerce, shame and intimidate to push past her comfort zone.
He knew the detail was in her reaction not necessarily the act she was doing.
Jolee love has recently released Unbreakable, which is 2 hours of anal only, piss drinking. That is way more hardcore than Max ever shot. But it’s different to Max’s porn because she is not being taken advantage of. She is using LP to further her career and give her exposure. There is mutual understanding between the models/LP. I
With Max it’s not about the act it’s about being pushed just slightly beyond the limit. People by nature doesn’t like to say no and disappoint, especially when there is a camera and other people on set. Max knew how to work that to his advantage.
If Max had existed solely in the internet age rather than having to send DVDs through the post he would never have gone to jail.
I think that’s one of the reasons LP stopped making piss videos for a while because of the US authorities. But they got Max - like Al Capone - on a technicality.
He made some of the greatest porn of all time. The only issue now is it was shot on SD. If it was in 4K it would still be the best porn out there. With the exception of LP of course
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naj6977 wrote:Max is truly missed. There is a documentary "Hardcore" were you can see Max behind the scenes. Real psycho vibes and they talk about, how he was often drunk and violent. At it is shown how naive girls are tricked into shooting with him a "girl boy scene" without mentioning what really happens .
https://youtu.be/gKRzQVvMsYQ Brianna Banks has a interview where she talks about her legendary scene with him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50jhGhfklGE
It's a long, wide ranging interview covering a lot of Briana's life. When discussing her Max Hardcore shoot, though, she got very angry, even though the events were from many years earlier. Briana continues to wish him every possible misfortune on Max as retribution for what he supposedly did to her. Frankly, from her story, I don't think Briana has any legitimate complaint. She readily admits that everything was completely VOLUNTARY on her part. She admits that she was stone cold sober throughout. She admits that she did it because she really wanted the money. The shoot paid $10,000.00 for 8 hours' work, WAY above industry standard, and that was over 20 years ago. Briana also admits that she could have ended the shoot at any time but chose NOT to because she didn't want to forgo her $10,000.00 payday. Ok, she didn't enjoy it. She felt degraded. Max made her feel bad about herself. I can understand all that, but I think Briana's anger is misplaced.
She's angry at Max, but she should really be angry at HERSELF. Her big problem, evidently, is that she found her experience with Max to be degrading and it made her feel bad about herself. It made her feel ashamed. Excuse me, but what did she expect? She was being paid all that money for a REASON. That reason was to compensate her for the discomfort and public shame associated with the acts she VOLUNTARILY agreed to perform. The money was also designed to overcome her disinclination to put herself on public display in such a degrading, humiliating way, and it was obviously successful! Despite all her revulsion, she CONTINUED the shoot! That says it all. Under certain circumstances, shooting porn can be made to look/feel "glamorous," concealing the true nature of the activity. With Max, all pretense is stripped away, leaving only the raw truth. Briana was forced to confront the fact that she was a WHORE and a filthy FUCK PIG who would willingly let herself be subjected to any kind of degradation and sexual defilement if paid enough money. That was probably the first time she was ever forced to accept the truth, and it is obviously very disturbing to her on a deep, psychological level.[/quote]