Paul F. Little

[netzerkaiser]

Paul F. Little AKA Max Hardcore. This guys been vilified, jailed, made a pariah, but was he really any different from whats goin' on now? I haven't watched his stuff much, but now some of it is re-released in high quality, I just think theres an element of basic honesty there. Its almost like he was a visionary.

Some of the ladies, Desire Moore, Bonnie Heart, were actually beautiful. I think his stuff from limited viewing experience, seems to raise more questions about female psyche than many psychologists might be comfortable dealing with.

I just don't feel he's any worse than a lot of stuff out there thats passing the HC credibility test, including on this site.

I think its worthwhile topic for discussion.

The fact that he's regular endowed guy gives him A+ to me. And maybe there are horror stories of his behaviour, I don't know... to me it seems like the few actresses I've seen with him are well up for it. And he can take insults from them, its not horrible stuff like that Meatholes / Brandon Iron stuff from early 2000's which was actually disturbing, with actors + directors with pencil thin ego's seeking to utterly humiliate the ladies.

Its like he just didn't care.

[ToryLaneRulez]

I remember his movies, used to download via torrent, it seems the charges against him were based on morales, as non of the actresses used were underage, if we arrest people based on our own personal tastes then can I have rap music arrested and all involved.

He never should have faced any charges, where is the difference then for something like a serbian movie over something like Pure Max, both are made in the name of entertainment and no actual act was breaking any law, whether that offends some of us is not being denied but being imprisoned for legally produced entertainment was utter BS

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Interesting topic and forum post, one could possibly agree with your statement that Max Hardcore "was like a visionary".

However, that is of course open to debate. I do think he opened up the pissing and puking genres into more mainstream porn, which is no bad thing and that is similar to LP/AV's USP?

[davebowman]

Max was a legend - I remember watching the Euro versions of his DVDs back in the day, and still nothing has come close to that level of seedy depravity. The hot teens done up in a very specific style, with the bright coloured outfits, heels etc, the slightly icky roleplay elements that would make you feel dirty as you were watching it, how despite having an average sized cock he really seemed to take the girls up to the limit. Throat fucking, pissing down throats (god knows how he did that without the girls drowning?), girls drinking piss and cum from tubes inserted in their own gaping assholes, and girls blowing puke all over each other - amazing stuff, and even this place hasn't reached the intensity of his most extreme scenes.

I was really hoping he'd get back to it once he left prison, but for some reason he uses this weird strap-on now, and the whole thing is laughable. A shame, as I could really do with a modern version of that style of filth in 4K.

[xxxEVOxxx]

Max was a legend - I remember watching the Euro versions of his DVDs back in the day, and still nothing has come close to that level of seedy depravity. The hot teens done up in a very specific style, with the bright coloured outfits, heels etc, the slightly icky roleplay elements that would make you feel dirty as you were watching it, how despite having an average sized cock he really seemed to take the girls up to the limit. Throat fucking, pissing down throats (god knows how he did that without the girls drowning?), girls drinking piss and cum from tubes inserted in their own gaping assholes, and girls blowing puke all over each other - amazing stuff, and even this place hasn't reached the intensity of his most extreme scenes.

I was really hoping he'd get back to it once he left prison, but for some reason he uses this weird strap-on now, and the whole thing is laughable. A shame, as I could really do with a modern version of that style of filth in 4K.

Hear hear! Could not possibly agree more with you. I always had a real thing for the extreme throat fucking, girls blowing puke all over each other. It was IMMENSE and INTENSE! The two babes who worked the most with him Catalina Cruz and Layla Riviera were amazing! I particularly enjoyed the uncut, extreme Euro version on DVD and seeing Catalina Cruz in her prime. I used to have a real thing for her and to see her do such nasty things was an insta boner for me!

[xxxVIPERxxx]

I also thought Catalina Cruz was smoking HOT! It is a shame to hear that after her porn career, she had many mental health issues and her family had her sent away/sectioned.

A real tragedy...but in her prime, Catalina was absolutely awesome. Wish more performers would puke like she used to!

[naj6977]

Max is truly missed. There is a documentary "Hardcore" were you can see Max behind the scenes. Real psycho vibes and they talk about, how he was often drunk and violent. At it is shown how naive girls are tricked into shooting with him a "girl boy scene" without mentioning what really happens . https://youtu.be/gKRzQVvMsYQ

Brianna Banks has a interview where she talks about her legendary scene with him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50jhGhfklGE

[xxxEVOxxx]

Max is truly missed. There is a documentary "Hardcore" were you can see Max behind the scenes. Real psycho vibes and they talk about, how he was often drunk and violent. At it is shown how naive girls are tricked into shooting with him a "girl boy scene" without mentioning what really happens . https://youtu.be/gKRzQVvMsYQ

Brianna Banks has a interview where she talks about her legendary scene with him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50jhGhfklGE

Thanks for the links, will have a look when I have time. A genuinely interesting topic. I think without Max Hardcore, there would not be LP/AV today and many other such premium, fee=paying sites and that genre of porn. I think Paul deserves some credit for what he brough to the evolution of the porn industry. It was more the manner in which he conducted himself that is the key to the issues in question.

[Gubbeiladan123]

Max is a legend, his stuff was back in the day very hardcore, todays porn is at the same level.

He as on TT Boy TV podcast last year.
Really interesting podcast

2 parts video is available on Youtube

Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP2dbcVUtO4
Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHSdQTIHCj0

[asspatties]

Desire Moore: Extreme Schoolgirls 6

[asspatties]

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[netzerkaiser]

Desire Moore: Extreme Schoolgirls 6

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Would you believe, Desiree Moore scene you highlight inspired thread?

[brian6902]

Are there even any legitimate ways to get the original videos, other than buying individual DVDs? His new site is pretty dogshit, it's stream only, has an incomplete collection, and the videos are edited down from the originals.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Could try looking online to see if anyone still sells the Euro versions of Max Hardcore's titles.

[annmsklr5]

Is he still alive? I was a big fan of his stuff in late 90s. Back in that day I considered his movies to be really hardcore, namely violent pissing and extreme talent treatment.

I almost can't believe it became a norm today! Apart from drinking, porn is at the same level regularly these days - extreme handling, in the mouth pissing, gaping, hard anal ...maaaan...

[davebowman]

Yes, he's alive, and still producing porn - though for some unknown reason since he came out of prison he wears a fake strap-on penis. No idea if he can't get an erection anymore, or someone cut off his own cock in prison, but it's utterly bizarre.

[hughroad]

Yes, he's alive, and still producing porn - though for some unknown reason since he came out of prison he wears a fake strap-on penis. No idea if he can't get an erection anymore, or someone cut off his own cock in prison, but it's utterly bizarre.

I've read in other forums that he went through chemical castration during his time in prison. Don't know if it's true or just speculation.

His movies were amazing. So many hot chicks doing the filthiest sex acts. Watching Catalina or Layla Riviera puking over other girls was so hot, thoygh camera angles were pretty shit sometimes. I wish that GG or other AV studios would dare to shoot some of that.

It's a pity that Mr. Little is not releasing his scenes in their original lenght. As someone mentioned above scenes in his web are edited versions of the originals.

[davebowman]

I imagine it must be something pretty serious, as I can't imagine anything more frustrating than having a girl bouncing up and down on your lap with your fake strap on dick in her ass, while your real one is feeling absolutely nothing. Frustratingly, some of the girls still look pretty good in the new stuff he shoots, and recognisably in his old style. I think he really needs to hand the reigns over to another actor, and stay on board as director.

[annmsklr5]

Yes, he's alive, and still producing porn - though for some unknown reason since he came out of prison he wears a fake strap-on penis. No idea if he can't get an erection anymore, or someone cut off his own cock in prison, but it's utterly bizarre.

wow, I haven't seen anything new from him for ages. It's just adds up to his overall bizarreness

[Seraph0257]

I also thought Catalina Cruz was smoking HOT! It is a shame to hear that after her porn career, she had many mental health issues and her family had her sent away/sectioned.

A real tragedy...but in her prime, Catalina was absolutely awesome. Wish more performers would puke like she used to!

https://tour.catalinacruz.com/

are you confused? or is there more than one?

[xxxVIPERxxx]

I also thought Catalina Cruz was smoking HOT! It is a shame to hear that after her porn career, she had many mental health issues and her family had her sent away/sectioned.

A real tragedy...but in her prime, Catalina was absolutely awesome. Wish more performers would puke like she used to!

https://tour.catalinacruz.com/

are you confused? or is there more than one?

There is more than one Catalina. I am referring to the Catalina who worked a lot with Max Hardcore.

[Seraph0257]

gotcha

[robin_reid]

I imagine it must be something pretty serious, as I can't imagine anything more frustrating than having a girl bouncing up and down on your lap with your fake strap on dick in her ass, while your real one is feeling absolutely nothing. Frustratingly, some of the girls still look pretty good in the new stuff he shoots, and recognisably in his old style. I think he really needs to hand the reigns over to another actor, and stay on board as director.

I asked him about it years ago and his answer was somewhat surreal ... Girls love it + he can shoot 4 scenes in a day. Ok that’s fine

[asspatties]

Max was a legend - I remember watching the Euro versions of his DVDs back in the day, and still nothing has come close to that level of seedy depravity. The hot teens done up in a very specific style, with the bright coloured outfits, heels etc, the slightly icky roleplay elements that would make you feel dirty as you were watching it, how despite having an average sized cock he really seemed to take the girls up to the limit. Throat fucking, pissing down throats (god knows how he did that without the girls drowning?), girls drinking piss and cum from tubes inserted in their own gaping assholes, and girls blowing puke all over each other - amazing stuff, and even this place hasn't reached the intensity of his most extreme scenes.

I was really hoping he'd get back to it once he left prison, but for some reason he uses this weird strap-on now, and the whole thing is laughable. A shame, as I could really do with a modern version of that style of filth in 4K.

girls blowing puke all over each other - amazing stuff. Max Hardcore King of the Puke shower/ Roman Shower

[Pissing]

First of all.... I think I have the biggest collection of Max Hardcore DVD's...
I spent many years searching the internet and bought the remainders of his DVD's all over the planet...
Poland, Belgium, Germany, France, UK, USA, Spain. Czech.... You name it...
I bought the last copies of his DVD's...
There are no more available at the moment.
I have everything Except for:
- Fists of Fury 1 (doubt if it really exists)
- Fuck puppets 2
- Harder Than Hardcore 1
- Hollywood Hardcore 16

I have EURO versions and HQ of everything..
Yes, I'm quite proud of it... It took me many years and a lot of money. (and scams)

Chemical castration ?
Really ? There are only 1 or 2 links about this..
I can't believe that that really happened, although that would explain the dildo's

Anyway, Max is god. He of course was totally falsely imprisoned, only because some moralistic people found it gross.
He had to sell his house.

His website releases trickle in every now and day...
But TBH,,, they suck. the website versions are shorter (often half the length) and often have cut away the pissing.
I want to again address that Max did the pissing on the best way, not like LP who always isolates the pissing, making it easier to also make a not pissing version of the scene.

Yes, my collection is the biggest
I even have a pissing version of 1 scene from Universal Max 13 !

[Pissing]

BTW: the best interview of Max Hardcore is the interview with Corpsy..
Very interesting inside info. check it out !

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... ore+corpsy

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Max was a legend - I remember watching the Euro versions of his DVDs back in the day, and still nothing has come close to that level of seedy depravity. The hot teens done up in a very specific style, with the bright coloured outfits, heels etc, the slightly icky roleplay elements that would make you feel dirty as you were watching it, how despite having an average sized cock he really seemed to take the girls up to the limit. Throat fucking, pissing down throats (god knows how he did that without the girls drowning?), girls drinking piss and cum from tubes inserted in their own gaping assholes, and girls blowing puke all over each other - amazing stuff, and even this place hasn't reached the intensity of his most extreme scenes.

I was really hoping he'd get back to it once he left prison, but for some reason he uses this weird strap-on now, and the whole thing is laughable. A shame, as I could really do with a modern version of that style of filth in 4K.

girls blowing puke all over each other - amazing stuff. Max Hardcore King of the Puke shower/ Roman Shower

Awesome pics! Max really is a legend!!!

[robin_reid]

Is he still alive? I was a big fan of his stuff in late 90s. Back in that day I considered his movies to be really hardcore, namely violent pissing and extreme talent treatment.

I almost can't believe it became a norm today! Apart from drinking, porn is at the same level regularly these days - extreme handling, in the mouth pissing, gaping, hard anal ...maaaan...

For example, in 2005 he’s been in Barcelona and did shot Rebeca Linares. At that time this scene in Spain caused quit stir, it was considered like a big depravation, some people telling “almost like a rape”, everyone in the business commenting about it either in person, on the forums, etc etc… But if you check this scene (I’ve watched the full video) you will realize that what Max did is “nothing” in comparison with for example what I do nowadays or what other producers do. He fucked her ass in some normal sex positions, some slaps, some deepthroads and a small pee at the end. That’s all. By far it was not one of his most extreme scenes, but in Spain was a scandal.

[asspatties]

Does anyone know where I could download complete photo galleries of Max Hardocore? They are thin on the ground on most websites.

[xxxEVOxxx]

Max Hardcore was, is and will always be a LEGEND within the porn biz. He has inspired many copycats and now the USP of LP/AV, F***** Abuse, G*etto Gaggers, H**kUp H*tSh*t and many other sites are more or less the same as what he was doing 20+ years ago.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Is he still alive? I was a big fan of his stuff in late 90s. Back in that day I considered his movies to be really hardcore, namely violent pissing and extreme talent treatment.

I almost can't believe it became a norm today! Apart from drinking, porn is at the same level regularly these days - extreme handling, in the mouth pissing, gaping, hard anal ...maaaan...

For example, in 2005 he’s been in Barcelona and did shot Rebeca Linares. At that time this scene in Spain caused quit stir, it was considered like a big depravation, some people telling “almost like a rape”, everyone in the business commenting about it either in person, on the forums, etc etc… But if you check this scene (I’ve watched the full video) you will realize that what Max did is “nothing” in comparison with for example what I do nowadays or what other producers do. He fucked her ass in some normal sex positions, some slaps, some deepthroads and a small pee at the end. That’s all. By far it was not one of his most extreme scenes, but in Spain was a scandal.

I honestly thought there was nothing wrong with what Max did and that Rebecca Linares scene is not even the hardest scene that Rebecca has done in her career (in fact, no where near the roughest scene).

I do agree that he was cast aside for reasons that are beyond us. From the interviews, he seems like a really nice guy and many performers regularly came back to work with Max. Also, at that time Max was paying the girls 10,000 USD for a scene. That was way above market rates and so of course, they were expected to perform piss, puke, and other rougher things. Back in the early 2000s, 10K USD for one scene was an astronomical pay day!

[robin_reid]

Also, at that time Max was paying the girls 10,000 USD for a scene. That was way above market rates and so of course, they were expected to perform piss, puke, and other rougher things. Back in the early 2000s, 10K USD for one scene was an astronomical pay day!

I don’t know if these amounts are true or what but what I know is that what Rebeca got paid was far from these amounts. I’ve heard (and from a reliable source) the amount and it has nothing to do. Anyway that scene is nothing more than a simple bga with a small pee…

[asspatties]

Max Hardcore - King of Roller Girl reaming

[naj6977]

Dude I have even the ones you don't have and i did not spend a fortune. And you can rent lots of his DVDs in Germany.

BTW: the best interview of Max Hardcore is the interview with Corpsy..
Very interesting inside info. check it out !

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... ore+corpsy

[steverino1969]

Max is truly missed. There is a documentary "Hardcore" were you can see Max behind the scenes. Real psycho vibes and they talk about, how he was often drunk and violent. At it is shown how naive girls are tricked into shooting with him a "girl boy scene" without mentioning what really happens . https://youtu.be/gKRzQVvMsYQ

Brianna Banks has a interview where she talks about her legendary scene with him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50jhGhfklGE

It's a long, wide ranging interview covering a lot of Briana's life. When discussing her Max Hardcore shoot, though, she got very angry, even though the events were from many years earlier. Briana continues to wish him every possible misfortune on Max as retribution for what he supposedly did to her. Frankly, from her story, I don't think Briana has any legitimate complaint. She readily admits that everything was completely VOLUNTARY on her part. She admits that she was stone cold sober throughout. She admits that she did it because she really wanted the money. The shoot paid $10,000.00 for 8 hours' work, WAY above industry standard, and that was over 20 years ago. Briana also admits that she could have ended the shoot at any time but chose NOT to because she didn't want to forgo her $10,000.00 payday. Ok, she didn't enjoy it. She felt degraded. Max made her feel bad about herself. I can understand all that, but I think Briana's anger is misplaced.

She's angry at Max, but she should really be angry at HERSELF. Her big problem, evidently, is that she found her experience with Max to be degrading and it made her feel bad about herself. It made her feel ashamed. Excuse me, but what did she expect? She was being paid all that money for a REASON. That reason was to compensate her for the discomfort and public shame associated with the acts she VOLUNTARILY agreed to perform. The money was also designed to overcome her disinclination to put herself on public display in such a degrading, humiliating way, and it was obviously successful! Despite all her revulsion, she CONTINUED the shoot! That says it all. Under certain circumstances, shooting porn can be made to look/feel "glamorous," concealing the true nature of the activity. With Max, all pretense is stripped away, leaving only the raw truth. Briana was forced to confront the fact that she was a WHORE and a filthy FUCK PIG who would willingly let herself be subjected to any kind of degradation and sexual defilement if paid enough money. That was probably the first time she was ever forced to accept the truth, and it is obviously very disturbing to her on a deep, psychological level.

[greenfunk727]

Great post steverino. That is exactly my views on the subject.

That Briana Banks scene was also one of the hottest scenes of all time. I still watch that scene that starts in the public toilet.

Many people have much to say about Max Hardcore IMHO he used every trick in the book to persuade, coerce, shame and intimidate models to do hardcore shit. In fact he was a master at it and although not nice it was nothing illegal and nothing that regular companies don’t pull on employees in the real world all the time. He prayed especially on naivety

His questionable methods aside he is the greatest pornograpgher of all time.

He knew the power of the camera and what he wanted to achieve. Every shot and angle was about the viewer. Everything that happened he need to catch on camera for the viewer to see at home. It wasn’t about him getting off, per se, it was about showing the result on camera.

Another of Max’s powers relates to my first point. Getting a model on her limit. Max understood this as a fundamental part of shooting a good scene.

Being on the limit.

Some of his scenes were super hardcore and some basic anal. The difference was he knew exactly where the limit was with each model and he would persuade, coerce, shame and intimidate to push past her comfort zone.

He knew the detail was in her reaction not necessarily the act she was doing.

Jolee love has recently released Unbreakable, which is 2 hours of anal only, piss drinking. That is way more hardcore than Max ever shot. But it’s different to Max’s porn because she is not being taken advantage of. She is using LP to further her career and give her exposure. There is mutual understanding between the models/LP. I

With Max it’s not about the act it’s about being pushed just slightly beyond the limit. People by nature doesn’t like to say no and disappoint, especially when there is a camera and other people on set. Max knew how to work that to his advantage.

If Max had existed solely in the internet age rather than having to send DVDs through the post he would never have gone to jail.

I think that’s one of the reasons LP stopped making piss videos for a while because of the US authorities. But they got Max - like Al Capone - on a technicality.

He made some of the greatest porn of all time. The only issue now is it was shot on SD. If it was in 4K it would still be the best porn out there. With the exception of LP of course






quote="steverino1969"]

Max is truly missed. There is a documentary "Hardcore" were you can see Max behind the scenes. Real psycho vibes and they talk about, how he was often drunk and violent. At it is shown how naive girls are tricked into shooting with him a "girl boy scene" without mentioning what really happens . https://youtu.be/gKRzQVvMsYQ

Brianna Banks has a interview where she talks about her legendary scene with him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50jhGhfklGE

It's a long, wide ranging interview covering a lot of Briana's life. When discussing her Max Hardcore shoot, though, she got very angry, even though the events were from many years earlier. Briana continues to wish him every possible misfortune on Max as retribution for what he supposedly did to her. Frankly, from her story, I don't think Briana has any legitimate complaint. She readily admits that everything was completely VOLUNTARY on her part. She admits that she was stone cold sober throughout. She admits that she did it because she really wanted the money. The shoot paid $10,000.00 for 8 hours' work, WAY above industry standard, and that was over 20 years ago. Briana also admits that she could have ended the shoot at any time but chose NOT to because she didn't want to forgo her $10,000.00 payday. Ok, she didn't enjoy it. She felt degraded. Max made her feel bad about herself. I can understand all that, but I think Briana's anger is misplaced.

She's angry at Max, but she should really be angry at HERSELF. Her big problem, evidently, is that she found her experience with Max to be degrading and it made her feel bad about herself. It made her feel ashamed. Excuse me, but what did she expect? She was being paid all that money for a REASON. That reason was to compensate her for the discomfort and public shame associated with the acts she VOLUNTARILY agreed to perform. The money was also designed to overcome her disinclination to put herself on public display in such a degrading, humiliating way, and it was obviously successful! Despite all her revulsion, she CONTINUED the shoot! That says it all. Under certain circumstances, shooting porn can be made to look/feel "glamorous," concealing the true nature of the activity. With Max, all pretense is stripped away, leaving only the raw truth. Briana was forced to confront the fact that she was a WHORE and a filthy FUCK PIG who would willingly let herself be subjected to any kind of degradation and sexual defilement if paid enough money. That was probably the first time she was ever forced to accept the truth, and it is obviously very disturbing to her on a deep, psychological level.[/quote]

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Max is truly missed. There is a documentary "Hardcore" were you can see Max behind the scenes. Real psycho vibes and they talk about, how he was often drunk and violent. At it is shown how naive girls are tricked into shooting with him a "girl boy scene" without mentioning what really happens . https://youtu.be/gKRzQVvMsYQ

Brianna Banks has a interview where she talks about her legendary scene with him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50jhGhfklGE

It's a long, wide ranging interview covering a lot of Briana's life. When discussing her Max Hardcore shoot, though, she got very angry, even though the events were from many years earlier. Briana continues to wish him every possible misfortune on Max as retribution for what he supposedly did to her. Frankly, from her story, I don't think Briana has any legitimate complaint. She readily admits that everything was completely VOLUNTARY on her part. She admits that she was stone cold sober throughout. She admits that she did it because she really wanted the money. The shoot paid $10,000.00 for 8 hours' work, WAY above industry standard, and that was over 20 years ago. Briana also admits that she could have ended the shoot at any time but chose NOT to because she didn't want to forgo her $10,000.00 payday. Ok, she didn't enjoy it. She felt degraded. Max made her feel bad about herself. I can understand all that, but I think Briana's anger is misplaced.

She's angry at Max, but she should really be angry at HERSELF. Her big problem, evidently, is that she found her experience with Max to be degrading and it made her feel bad about herself. It made her feel ashamed. Excuse me, but what did she expect? She was being paid all that money for a REASON. That reason was to compensate her for the discomfort and public shame associated with the acts she VOLUNTARILY agreed to perform. The money was also designed to overcome her disinclination to put herself on public display in such a degrading, humiliating way, and it was obviously successful! Despite all her revulsion, she CONTINUED the shoot! That says it all. Under certain circumstances, shooting porn can be made to look/feel "glamorous," concealing the true nature of the activity. With Max, all pretense is stripped away, leaving only the raw truth. Briana was forced to confront the fact that she was a WHORE and a filthy FUCK PIG who would willingly let herself be subjected to any kind of degradation and sexual defilement if paid enough money. That was probably the first time she was ever forced to accept the truth, and it is obviously very disturbing to her on a deep, psychological level.

It was mentioned previously that Max Hardcore used to pay 10,000 USD around 20 years ago for the female talent! As you say, that is an insanely high going rate.
I have seen that Briana Banks scene with Max and I can honestly say, it is an awesome scene. Even in another 20 years, people will still be whacking off furiously to it.
That is the reason why performers got paid a premium, they were expected to be humiliated, degraded, pissed on and my only regret is that Briana had such a bad experience, she never went back again. She is a legend of porn and should have done more Max Hardcore scenes.

[steverino1969]

I, too, thought Briana's scene with Max was terrific. In fact, I find her earliest scenes to be her very best, in general, and it would seem they were all before her Max scene. After that, she (unfortunately) got implants and became Vivid girl making boring vanilla scenes. Prior to her boob job, Briana was WAY hotter -- and NASTIER. Pre-boob job, a large majority of her scenes involved anal, dp, double-vag, even dap. Since then, those have been the exceptions. It evidently didn't initially occur to Briana that getting her pussy stuffed with two dicks at the same time and swallowing multiple guys' nut for all the world to see was in any way "degrading." She was good with it, probably because she ENJOYED it, and the producers/directors made her feel good about herself while getting roundly fucked on camera.

That, however, just wasn't Max's style. For human beings, social status is extremely important in justifying one's own existence. For Max, it therefore wasn't just about sexually degrading/humiliating the girl. It was about the girl KNOWING that she had been sexually degraded/humiliated in front of the whole wide world. The girl was forced to admit -- to the world, to her friends, to her parents, and to HERSELF -- that she was nothing more than a filthy FUCK PIG, worth no more than a used condom in the grand scheme of things. To a girl who was constantly stoned or shit-faced drunk, it probably didn't mean very much -- they're already scraping the bottom of society's barrel. To a girl whos was sober, however, it can induce a psychological crisis. She might have gotten paid $10,000.00, but, in the transaction, she also lost every last shred of her personal dignity and the very last scrap of social status she might have been clinging to. For a price, the most repulsive social outcasts can fuck the living shit out of her in any/every way possible. They don't need to ask her. They don't need to seek her approval. They just need to PAY her, at which point her mouth, her pussy, and her asshole are theirs for the plundering in any way they see fit. The girl is thus dehumanized, and there's a certain erotic appeal in watching the complete social/psychological destruction of a young, pretty girl, as she gets fucked into oblivion -- realizing only in increments that she sold far more than she she bargained for, far more than her pussy -- ultimately to deeply and hopelessly regret the choice she made.

For Briana, this caused her to change her entire persona. She changed her manager. Then she changed her name -- from Mirage to Briana Banks. She also changed her appearance and her body through surgical interventions. She also changed the companies she would work for and the kinds of content she would appear in. In effect, she was being "re-born," as it were, into Briana Banks. Mirage was no more, and in "killing" Mirage, Briana also "killed" her humiliation and reclaimed her personal dignity and a measure of social status. Personally, I like Mirage a lot better. I thought she was cuter -- and HOTTER -- than Briana Banks became, and I would have preferred to see Mirage continue on her original trajectory of performing in ever harder and more extreme gonzo style content. After Max, though, that was a psychological impossibility for Briana, much to our collective disappointment.

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I liked Briana a lot when she was younger but even when she became a Vivid contract girl, got those big boobs - I have to say I still LIKED her a LOT. Her tramp stamp, tongue stud, blonde hair, big fake boobs were to die for.

Even now as a MILF, she is still stunning!

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Briana Banks - Grade A Fuckdoll.