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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby lp_old_fan » Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:14 pm

and please, show this pic to models before process
Very sad see Doggy pose from most models like newbies

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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby Eloise » Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:33 pm

lp_old_fan wrote:and please, show this pic to models before process
Very sad see Doggy pose from most models like newbies

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This "beginner" positions you notice is leaning forward during pounding actually.
In this way the strokes are somewhat less deep and dampened.
In the advanced positions the full strokes are at maximum depth and pound against the sigmoid or even further.
I've noticed and said it before in some other post: if the girl can't take anal - don't do it.

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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby lp_old_fan » Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:07 pm

Eloise wrote:
lp_old_fan wrote:and please, show this pic to models before process
if the girl can't take anal - don't do it.


so why this girl come to legalporn?

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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby dap-addict » Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:34 am

A better pornbox organization could stop a lot of criticism.
i.e. prioritize pro studios - 2nd old content offers like PornWorld/Private - 3rd all small studios

Angel Eyes wrote:And scene ticket prices are doubling what they used to be. I just joined again after a long lapse for 3 months. 48 tickets will get me just 4-5 scenes. I refuse to recharge tickets at a higher cost per ticket than monthly membership allotment

It has been explained why this is happened. Compared to pre-LP times its still cheap for what you get, unless you are a unpicky porn user enjoying all offers basically as long as it features half naked girls getting fucked.
Re-charging is up to you and recharge ticket price could always be lower, but it is as it is. As long as I need more scenes per month than those I can buy with subscription I'll get them if I can afford it.

avanfurwet wrote:I think most fans deal with similar frustrations, technically if not morally, because scenes which we think we might enjoy contain some things which don't fulfill our personal desires, be it costumes or actions or whatever. I guess if we really hate some parts of scenes then we can either consider using video editing software to remove those parts, or just not buy them and take our business elsewhere.

Its so easy, basically! ;)
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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby avanfurwet » Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:58 am

dap-addict wrote:A better pornbox organization could stop a lot of criticism.
i.e. prioritize pro studios - 2nd old content offers like PornWorld/Private - 3rd all small studios

Better for who? A few forum posters who complain? Be careful what you wish for. The Pornbox landing page is enabling exposure to tens or hundreds of thousands of views for smaller new studios by featuring them intentionally alongside big popular studios like Giorgio Grandi and Gonzo. Without this exposure, new studios including N&F, NRX, VK etc. would struggle to gain views and sales leading to fewer scenes getting made.

Maybe some of the old customers want to see only Giorgio's and Gonzo studios? They can use the "Feeds" to make their own custom landing page and filter out everything else they don't want to see. Maybe this solves that problem. Then they can return to complaining endlessly that Giorgio and Gonzo's content is not like the good old days, without ever seeing what any of the new studios might have to offer.


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avanfurwet wrote:I think most fans deal with similar frustrations, technically if not morally, because scenes which we think we might enjoy contain some things which don't fulfill our personal desires, be it costumes or actions or whatever. I guess if we really hate some parts of scenes then we can either consider using video editing software to remove those parts, or just not buy them and take our business elsewhere.

Its so easy, basically! ;)

Do you have any better suggestions to help answer Vulture's dilemma? Or are you the new Eloise?

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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby beklof » Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:28 am

dap-addict wrote:A better pornbox organization could stop a lot of criticism.
i.e. prioritize pro studios - 2nd old content offers like PornWorld/Private - 3rd all small studios

Angel Eyes wrote:And scene ticket prices are doubling what they used to be. I just joined again after a long lapse for 3 months. 48 tickets will get me just 4-5 scenes. I refuse to recharge tickets at a higher cost per ticket than monthly membership allotment


It has been explained why this is happened. Compared to pre-LP times its still cheap for what you get, unless you are a unpicky porn user enjoying all offers basically as long as it features half naked girls getting fucked.
Re-charging is up to you and recharge ticket price could always be lower, but it is as it is. As long as I need more scenes per month than those I can buy with subscription I'll get them if I can afford it.

avanfurwet wrote:I think most fans deal with similar frustrations, technically if not morally, because scenes which we think we might enjoy contain some things which don't fulfill our personal desires, be it costumes or actions or whatever. I guess if we really hate some parts of scenes then we can either consider using video editing software to remove those parts, or just not buy them and take our business elsewhere.



Its so easy, basically!
;)


I find it a little strange to claim to another that something is still cheap if the other has just stated that it is not. If I say, for example, about a computer that it’s expensive, then yeah, it’s expensive for me. It doesn’t get cheap for me just because my friend next to me claims it’s pretty cheap.

I think this is an expensive site then compares to almost any other porn site. And I can assure you that I have been a subscriber to countless porn sites. No, this isn’t expensive for someone else, I understand that. Someone relies on AV / LP quality and that you won’t find the same anywhere else. I'm not going to argue. But the fact is that a system where you have to redeem each video separately by paying, it is expensive for very many. Someone somewhere in another thread would say he bought 50 videos in one month (if I understood correctly). So this guy needs to have extra in his wallet and lots! For these guys, this site is definitely super.

"I think if we really hate some scenes, we can either consider using video editing software to remove those parts or not buy them and take our business elsewhere."

How can you judge whether a video is good or bad based on a 1.5 minute compilation alone? I mean, on this site, it’s the only way to try to rate the content of a video. Because you have to pay for each steaming or download separately, there is always a risk that you have paid in vain. When I subscribe to any other porn site, I pay a monthly fee (let’s say € 25) and stream it and download as many videos as I want. Then if the video is junk, I won't lose anything. If there are 5 in a row, same thing. Stream here or download 5 lousy videos so you have automatically paid separately for five lousy videos. Let's say each of them cost 7 tkt. So, you've paid 35 tkt for just the garbage. But if I have misunderstood something about this payment system here, correct my misunderstanding.

Well,to summarize all this,so for me this site is quite expensive. That’s why I have to think infinitely carefully about what to stream or download. And yes, no one is forcing me to be on this site. I am here of my own free will. However, I don’t like it when someone tells a person (who is critical) to go elsewhere. He doesn’t have to go anywhere just because he’s critical! I have never understood why it is so hard for some people to swallow criticism?

Personally, I will continue to be critical if I see it necessary. Likewise, I’m going to continue here (if I see stuff which I like) even if I find the site expensive. The reason is that indeed, here you will find videos that you will not find anywhere else. That is an undisputed fact.

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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby dap-addict » Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:28 am

What I meant to say is that the pay per scene system isn't new. And for more fetish geared and more picky users it is sure better than the pre-online porn times. This was my reference not other flat rate porn sites. Now ticket prices have risen dramatically in about mid May 2020 and they also curbed my porn shopping. I dont see it with my fave girls, but with many MILFs here. I also buy much less softer introduction scenes.

I think 100$ per month give you good options, but if you wanna spend less on your porn than its hard really. And of course I realize that 100$ is not the same amount for everybody here.

But OP wasnt about prices really, he was about content and quality.
Prices will always be too steep. ;)
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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby dap-addict » Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:36 am

Btw,
beklof wrote:How can you judge whether a video is good or bad based on a 1.5 minute compilation alone? I mean, on this site, it’s the only way to try to rate the content of a video. Because you have to pay for each steaming or download separately, there is always a risk that you have paid in vain.
What are you looking for you can't get a clue about based on trailer and 249 completely free screenshots usually giving you a glimpse of the scene at about every 15th second and also showing you how the picture is framed as well as color balance etc.?
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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby avanfurwet » Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:48 am

beklof wrote:
I find it a little strange to claim to another that something is still cheap if the other has just stated that it is not. If I say, for example, about a computer that it’s expensive, then yeah, it’s expensive for me. It doesn’t get cheap for me just because my friend next to me claims it’s pretty cheap...

It's exactly as valid for DAP-A to say the content here is cheap and for Angel Eyes to say it's expensive. Neither is correct and both are correct. Because there is no absolute standard to measure against so neither can be correct. Equally, value for money is an individual judgement for each buyer so both are correct, for them. Who cares? It's a pointless argument. People can freely choose to buy here, or not. As long as enough people continue to buy, the business is probably doing something right.

beklof wrote:"I think if we really hate some scenes, we can either consider using video editing software to remove those parts or not buy them and take our business elsewhere."

How can you judge whether a video is good or bad based on a 1.5 minute compilation alone? I mean, on this site, it’s the only way to try to rate the content of a video. Because you have to pay for each steaming or download separately, there is always a risk that you have paid in vain. When I subscribe to any other porn site, I pay a monthly fee (let’s say € 25) and stream it and download as many videos as I want. Then if the video is junk, I won't lose anything. If there are 5 in a row, same thing. Stream here or download 5 lousy videos so you have automatically paid separately for five lousy videos. Let's say each of them cost 7 tkt. So, you've paid 35 tkt for just the garbage. But if I have misunderstood something about this payment system here, correct my misunderstanding.

My response was specific to Vulture's dilemma that he saw some things he didn't like (e.g. manhandle) and this discouraged him from buying a scene, or he regretted buying a scene, which otherwise he thinks he would enjoy. He has the same information as everyone else, maybe a trailer and some time-lapse screenshots. Really all he can do is buy and edit it, or not buy it. I didn't claim it is a good solution, just that I think he has no other choices.

The subject of monthly subscriptions compared with pay-per-scene of course has been discussed many times. In answer to your comment about buying Pornbox scenes based on trailers/screenshots and possibly being disappointed, I think similar risks exist with a subscription website.

If you buy a monthly subscription for maybe EUR 30 you are hoping that they will publish some nice new scenes for you to download over the next 30 days. If it happens that they don't, or you don't like their scenes during that month, you have spent 30 EUR for nothing. Many subscribers buy annual subsciptions in advance for maybe EUR 200 or more, and not every subscription site will continue to publish good stuff every week. Some sites go downhill, publish fewer scenes, or just recyle old content (e.g. Score group in USA), or just disappear.

Both the subscription website and Pornbox will allow you to download back catalogues for free. Maybe the subscription websites are more generous about this, so you can download, e.g. very recent stuff for free. That can be good value, if you already spied some scenes that you want. However, in both cases you will likely cherry-pick what you want from the free back catalogue during your first month as a member.

After that, your monthly payments for subscription/tickets will probably buy current content. How many scenes per month will your subscription website actually publish? Will you like them? Does that subscription website suit you? Would it be better, or worse, for you to be able to pick and mix from the ~500 scenes which Pornbox will publish each month? Only you can judge for yourself. But I think the Pornbox model has some advantages for customers. For example, the back catalogue of scenes for sale is huge.

beklof wrote:Well,to summarize all this,so for me this site is quite expensive. That’s why I have to think infinitely carefully about what to stream or download. And yes, no one is forcing me to be on this site. I am here of my own free will. However, I don’t like it when someone tells a person (who is critical) to go elsewhere. He doesn’t have to go anywhere just because he’s critical! I have never understood why it is so hard for some people to swallow criticism?

Personally, I will continue to be critical if I see it necessary. Likewise, I’m going to continue here (if I see stuff which I like) even if I find the site expensive. The reason is that indeed, here you will find videos that you will not find anywhere else. That is an undisputed fact.

Anyone can criticise. IMO it's absolutely fine when somebody like you thinks and explains why they are criticising. Even better when the complainant appears to be sane.

Some other forum posters seem to have nothing to say beyond "I don't like it". which contributes exactly nothing and is slightly annoying. Maybe that's all they want.

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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby fuckcunts » Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:42 am

The quality of the porn is top notch. It is rougher than ever and more extreme. I just wanted to throw my two cents in to help counter the whiners.

And people greatly overestimate the hotness of the girls from years past. Go back and look... you remember the hot ones, not all the others. Sorry. It's great now. The site is great. Keep going, fellas.

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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby Paizal » Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:42 am

^You find everything great = so your view is the right one

Someone expresses criticism = whiner


...this is how 9year-olds lead discussions.

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Postby avanfurwet » Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:02 am

Paizal wrote:^You find everything great = so your view is the right one

Someone expresses criticism = whiner

He just gave his opinion. No worse than 99% of the negative posters who simply announce their unsubstantiated opinion as though it were settled fact.

Paizal wrote:...this is how 9year-olds lead discussions.

So he will fit in perfectly at this forum :D

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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby House MD » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:30 am

The thing is this site has been totally denatured from what it used to be by being a predominantly Black-only, pee, softcore platform
It used to be a beacon of the roughest Euro gangbangs but now it looks like Dogfart or Blacks on blondes a genre I hated ever since the early 2000s
Only the gold jewelry, rap and the American cars are missing
and that 0% pussy and now 0% DP trend is just pathetic... as if next's gonna be 0% fucking

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Postby Ukhsbb » Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:20 pm

I agree it is sad. They need some milfs and not the same womens. They need some Girls with bubble butts and not those thin girls.

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Postby anotherone6211 » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:59 pm

Turning out to be another week of just bad updates.

I'll ask again, how is this site struggling this year when the pandemic isn't as bad anymore when last year when the pandemic was at its highest, it was churning out amazing scenes?

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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby Sweep11 » Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:34 am

Fantastic discussion and insights.

My 2cents as a porn consumer for 30+ years with ZERO experience in production.

Girl ‘quality’ - fashions change and pretty young girls have way more options to make money from looks than ever before.
Makes sense that the pool of super cute, natural girls (my preference) prepared to do hard anal gangbangs is smaller.
And if pay rates have not kept pace it seems obvious it’s harder to scout.

Escalation - no issue with starting ‘softer’ and building skills and exposure. We will each jump in at the progression point we’re comfortable with. That, for me, directly relates to how hot the girl is. Quite attractive: wait for min 3 on 1. Super cute: support at 1 on 1

Cookie cutter scenes - I’m thrilled with even a minor departure from the standard position checklist these days.
Straight to standing doggy fucking, great!
Doggy in middle of the floor, surrounded by guys, not at a diagonal angle on the couch, yes!
Face on to the camera, pounded round the back with (shock, horror) no sight of penetration- love that!
We each have our favourite views. Girl laying on her side in dp/dap does nothing for me, no idea why!
But then, I understand why all scenes go through the same list of positions; so that most scenes will contain a position we all like.
So, the idea to show fewer positions and hold them longer risks alienating some customers.
And delighting others.
Not every scene will please every customer, that’s obvious.
So I would advocate taking a few more ‘risks’ with new positions. Make them clear in the trailers and study the sales.

Kneel for one by one cumshots - my pet hate! I hear what you say Mr Ananas about the challenge for the guys but I don’t really see why it’s a showstopper. Cumshot variety is severely lacking imo and should receive more focus.
Same goes for ending the scenes the moment the cum is out. Why the hurry always?

Passion! - this is the key I ingredient for me. I would trade perfect angles, lighting, acts and styling if there is real chemistry, enjoyment and passion evident between the talent! Ideally of course, I want all elements to be perfect.

All this said, I am still a strong supporter of AV in general. I visit most days and more often than not I find something I like.
It ebbs and flows of course & I keep looking elsewhere but always end up back here.

Thanks to all talent, directors, producers and staff that keep this place number 1 in my book.
We complain a lot but it’s because we care!

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Postby 2017sucks » Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:43 am

House MD wrote:The thing is this site has been totally denatured from what it used to be by being a predominantly Black-only, pee, softcore platform
It used to be a beacon of the roughest Euro gangbangs but now it looks like Dogfart or Blacks on blondes a genre I hated ever since the early 2000s
Only the gold jewelry, rap and the American cars are missing
and that 0% pussy and now 0% DP trend is just pathetic... as if next's gonna be 0% fucking
Lol, haha, bravo! ;) And also it's kind of "stepmom-stebro" kind of crap from USA and also boring euro productions.

Next steps... just the guys - jerking. Then, just directors jerking. Then - nothing, empty studio - use your imagination, 5.5 tkt for 40 mins.
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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby dap-addict » Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:45 am

Sweep11 wrote:We complain a lot but it’s because we care!

+ 1

Would be nice in a constructive way ofc.


Btw, to the gangbang crowd: Problem is Anabolic/Diabolic standards are long time past porn history. They still re-vibed when GIO started with 5on1 as usual format, but than he found out that 4on1 sells not worse really. 4on1 means up to 1k less investment if you count not only the studs fee, but also the girls plus the time lost to co-ordinate 5 instead of 4 studs.
I am quite sympathic with your calls, though. And fact we get a 7on1 once every few months @ GIO at least shows that the before mentioned Anabolic standards from mit1990ties are still active in directors memory at least. :)
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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby fuckcunts » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:19 am

Paizal wrote:^You find everything great = so your view is the right one

Someone expresses criticism = whiner


...this is how 9year-olds lead discussions.


I mean, porn's pretty subjective. But I'd seen enough DPs by 2009. More prolapse, more pissing, a higher proportion of rough scenes=better porn, IMO. And porn you're less likely to find elsewhere, so that's another huge advantage.

Some of what I see here really is whining. There's no rational reason why a slap is more offensive than prolapse, but you have prolapse-obsessed dudes on here who post over and over and over and over again complaining that there are light slaps in some scenes. Like, fine. Not your thing. Sometimes, I grant that these guys do elaborate. But some of what they say is complete fantasy. For instance, some of them think that DAP with massive cocks is preferable for the women to a few slaps (because it's sex). Like, what? I've met a bunch of women IRL who like being slapped and choked and dominated, but not many who want that much up their assholes.

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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby TheVulture » Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:45 pm

fuckcunts wrote:There's no rational reason why a slap is more offensive than prolapse, but you have prolapse-obsessed dudes on here who post over and over and over and over again complaining that there are light slaps in some scenes. Like, fine. Not your thing. Sometimes, I grant that these guys do elaborate. But some of what they say is complete fantasy. For instance, some of them think that DAP with massive cocks is preferable for the women to a few slaps (because it's sex). Like, what? I've met a bunch of women IRL who like being slapped and choked and dominated, but not many who want that much up their assholes.


For me it's not about whether slapping (also throat-grabbing, arm-twisting etc.) is offensive or not but simply the fact that it turns me off. It tampers with my fantasy, which is of a spontaneous conjoining of lust between a man (or group of men) and a woman (or perhaps more but ideally not too many more) who consider themselves sexual and physical equals. As soon as a guy (any of them, even just 1 and just for a second) goes for a girl's throat that fantasy is gone. It's obvious that what you're watching is either staged porn (with a depressing male-dominant theme that is now pretty much endemic in the genre) or at best people who have been sexual partners before. That isn't what I want. Of course I'm not gullible and I know that porn is staged but as with a good film, good porn in that consensual vein I've outlined can conjure in the viewer a suspension of disbelief, even when it is very "gonzo" in its style. You can apply to it a bit of a back story. The guys picked up the girl in a bar or club or something, she's a horny new neighbour, whatever. But when she starts getting slapped, choked, twisted etc. that has all gone.

For over 10 years (up til about 2010) I never had to worry about that with porn. All of the stuff I bought (Private, Christoph Clark, Red Light District, Jules Jordan etc.) seemed to accept my preference as the default. I certainly had never even entertained the possibility that this new "manhandle" style could ever exist yet alone come to dominate. Why would you grab a girl's throat, slap her face or twist her arm during passionate hardcore sex? That isn't sexy. When I started to see it in about 2010 I felt saddened and largely turned away from porn for some time, although I did later begin to consume some porn of that ilk but only on condition that it was light in that area. The problem is you can't always tell until you've bought it so then you view the manhandle elements (however light and infrequent) as a cancer and it's a question of how much cancer a scene can tolerate before it is basically dead to you as a device to turn you on. And now I'm back to that original stance of being turned off porn. I just don't understand why it seems to try hard to not be lustful and exciting in the way that older porn was. I think it's a combination of the industry becoming far too male-dominant and accommodating a lot of egos and also in some ways of cutting corners and appealing to a niche demographic. It's relatively easy to find a hot girl with a big sexual appetite who wants a crack at porn but much harder to find a bunch of experienced guys who still have a strong libido and lack cynicism about what they do so can bring out the lustful best in themselves and the girl. So just have them slap and wrestle her instead. There is a reliable audience who will pay for that and even those who don't like it might reluctantly consume it if there is some half-decent sex in there. That last sentence really sums me up with LP for the last 5 years until very recently.

Your last bit isn't really helpful and just seems self-serving as like many on here you're unnecessarily blurring the lines between hard sex and rough sex, probably for your own ends. Obviously some girls like 1 but not the other and some like both. It isn't necessary to broad-brush as you've done. The fact that the manhandle style is now so endemic does at the very least suggest that modern porn girls have less of a chance to resist it in a way that the earlier porn girls didn't (for them it was likely never even a consideration that they would have to encounter it). We all accept things that we don't like in our jobs and this might well be the stance of many such modern porn girls. I'm saying "might" because obviously some girls will love it. I don't need to broad-brush. But most of them? Does that seem realistic? I am skeptical and yes, I'm also biased but here those things are not linked.

Whereas porn for me used to largely resemble regular sex, albeit in an exaggerated way (better looking people, glamorous locations, more physical dexterity and stamina etc.) and played into the vital (for me) facade of a voyeuristic glimpse of the kind of sex we could all have if we were incredibly lucky (and in most cases better looking), now it doesn't. It's something much more depressing and ugly. Attractive (and perhaps naive) girls served up as prey for the benefit of thuggish and usually jaded men who seem to both hate the girls and themselves equally. That's nothing to do with how "offensive" it is but simply how abysmal I rate it to be. Yes you're right it's "not my thing". But where is my "thing" in 2021 (hardcore lustful sex without manhandle)? Nowhere at all. You have cornered the market, so well done and good luck to you. I will respectfully pass and hope (if not expect) for porn in general to regain its genuinely lustful and horny mojo sometime soon. Perhaps these things come in cycles. I can at least hope.
More non-manhandle scenes please. Hands away from face/neck/shoulders. Keep the girls loose, free and expressive. Don't overpower them - let them sizzle! Keep the heels on. More panties pulled to one side. More skirts/tight dresses. More 0% pussy scenes.

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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby Sweep11 » Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:51 am

I feel for you Vulture and can understand why you are frustrated.
I quite like the rough play personally so long as it’s not over the top but do agree that it’s probably in more scenes than it needs to be.
There should be space for lustful, intense hardcore at Analvids without the slaps & chokes, without having to survive on the crumbs from Private, Pornworld, Brazzers, Tushy etc

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Postby thewatcher1 » Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:45 am

johndoll333001 wrote:Classic old school 2 on 1, 3 on 1, 4 on 1 with well known girls of the industry would be hot. No piss, no rimming. Just old fashioned porn with alot of fucking and alot of cum involved.


Problem is I dont think these guys can afford to pay quality name pornstars. They prefer to get cheap Latin and Euro girls compare to web famous UK and American pornstars, many of those girls have no personality and just do it for the money, and they pay them real cheap too.

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Postby thewatcher1 » Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:49 am

Ukhsbb wrote:I agree it is sad. They need some milfs and not the same womens. They need some Girls with bubble butts and not those thin girls.


They need to get some UK and American pornstars with a name brand. Rebecca More, Alura Jenson, Ryan Conner, Julia Ann etc, big butt MILFs for gangbang. Offer them the right money and not lowball them, sadly these guys don't care about fan satisfaction but making a profit.

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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby dap-addict » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:46 am

thewatcher1 wrote:...and they pay them real cheap too.

Absolutely not true! :mad:
Rates run berserk last 2-3 years and girls get payed accordingly.
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Postby Paizal » Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:02 am

thewatcher1 wrote:
They need to get some UK and American pornstars with a name brand. Rebecca More, Alura Jenson, Ryan Conner, Julia Ann etc, big butt MILFs for gangbang. Offer them the right money and not lowball them, sadly these guys don't care about fan satisfaction but making a profit.



These ladies work in the USA with mini dicks like Jules Jordan, John Strong and impotent clowns like Ishia Maxwell and earn good money. Why should they come to Europe and tear their asses up?

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Postby thewatcher1 » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:15 pm

dap-addict wrote:
thewatcher1 wrote:...and they pay them real cheap too.

Absolutely not true! :mad:
Rates run berserk last 2-3 years and girls get payed accordingly.


Bullshit, if that was the case why no big names? Money talks.

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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby Wildfire1212 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:06 am

Please lay this once great website to rest. Its just painful to see the disgusting bad scenes uploaded everyday now. RIP LegelPorno.

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Postby Sweep11 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:23 am

Or you can just leave and let the many satisfied customers continue to enjoy the best porn being produced anywhere?

I don’t understand the logic of comments like that.

Would you walk into a high street clothes shop and announce that you no longer like their taste in fashion so they should shut up shop and quit?
FFS :rolleyes:

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Postby Paizal » Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:45 am

[quote="Sweep11"
Would you walk into a high street clothes shop and announce that you no longer like their taste in fashion so they should shut up shop and quit?
FFS :rolleyes:[/quote]

Because for many LP/AV is without any alternative.

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Postby avanfurwet » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:39 am

Before Covid shut down flights between Europe and USA there were many more big-name American stars shooting for the Prague studios. Recently, a few USA and British girls have started to appear in Prague again. Fees clearly are high enough to attract them.

Meanwhile, the website continues to feature new scenes from famous USA pornstars shooting in America for Bang Bros, Porn World and now for American Anal.
Possibly Kyler Quinn is not cheap. Nor Ashley Lane, Kay Carter, Gia Derza, Rebel Rhyder, Savannah Bond, Hazel Moore, Alicia Williams, Bailey Base, Skylar Vox, and many, others.

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Postby thewatcher1 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:01 pm

avanfurwet wrote:Before Covid shut down flights between Europe and USA there were many more big-name American stars shooting for the Prague studios. Recently, a few USA and British girls have started to appear in Prague again. Fees clearly are high enough to attract them.

Meanwhile, the website continues to feature new scenes from famous USA pornstars shooting in America for Bang Bros, Porn World and now for American Anal.
Possibly Kyler Quinn is not cheap. Nor Ashley Lane, Kay Carter, Gia Derza, Rebel Rhyder, Savannah Bond, Hazel Moore, Alicia Williams, Bailey Base, Skylar Vox, and many, others.


To attract American pornstars they have to pay up. I don't think these guys are willing to meet the necessary monetary compensation bthat these American girls command so they turn to cheap South American and Euro girls that's just the bottomline.

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Postby avanfurwet » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:56 am

thewatcher1 wrote:
avanfurwet wrote:Before Covid shut down flights between Europe and USA there were many more big-name American stars shooting for the Prague studios. Recently, a few USA and British girls have started to appear in Prague again. Fees clearly are high enough to attract them.

Meanwhile, the website continues to feature new scenes from famous USA pornstars shooting in America for Bang Bros, Porn World and now for American Anal.
Possibly Kyler Quinn is not cheap. Nor Ashley Lane, Kay Carter, Gia Derza, Rebel Rhyder, Savannah Bond, Hazel Moore, Alicia Williams, Bailey Base, Skylar Vox, and many, others.


To attract American pornstars they have to pay up. I don't think these guys are willing to meet the necessary monetary compensation bthat these American girls command so they turn to cheap South American and Euro girls that's just the bottomline.

Obvious trolling. Simply repeating the same baseless lies. Welcome to my ignore list. Goodbye.

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Re: What happened to this once GREAT website?

Postby dap-addict » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:08 am

Yep, just an US porn fan troll knowing nothing about LP/AV and or Europorn payment. :mad:
May I add that LP/AV needs a certain anal standard to be met and Russian as well as Latin American girls are willing to do that. Some US girls, too, as we have seen in the past, but maybe not the listed. Anyway, flights from US to Prague are just about to be resumed.
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Postby Rafal1203 » Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:31 am

Yea this site is not like it used to be

There is so much content which is good but there is so much trash too

and what I like the most : 2 3 cute innocent teen girl having anal sex with 1 dude scene doesnt exist anymore or maybe I miss them among the ammount of trash that makes my big PP limp then I get discourage and go back to my folder jack off to old porn and hold off to my fucking 350 TKT that I havent used in a year or so smh

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Postby Hotflash » Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:36 am

For me the most important thing before positions and so on is made by the beauty of the girl.

Lp doesn't propose beauties anymore...

The girls can make more money somewhere else ?

Why not pay them more for some attractive scenes, "pilot" one's to refresh that trans anal bullshit.

It is maybe not payfull enough on the scene itself, but will bring LP new consumers who will discover the rest of the collection and will pay for it.

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Postby thewatcher1 » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:58 pm

Hotflash wrote:For me the most important thing before positions and so on is made by the beauty of the girl.

Lp doesn't propose beauties anymore...

The girls can make more money somewhere else ?

Why not pay them more for some attractive scenes, "pilot" one's to refresh that trans anal bullshit.

It is maybe not payfull enough on the scene itself, but will bring LP new consumers who will discover the rest of the collection and will pay for it.


Theres a meaning that goes "you got to pay to play" and these guys want to play with these American pornstars but don't want to pay. Let's face it American and some UK pornstars command a much heftier compensation than the Euro and South American girls that these guys get for cheap. They are more famous, make money on the side and have certain standards that has to be met for them to sign a contract. No matter what these perverts here me included want for these girls to be sexually violated it's not gonna happen unless these guys who own this site pay up. I mean why would they even do that if they can pay these no name women from the streets dirt money to keep this website running, as long as the perverts here continue to pay and tolerate it nothing's gonna change.

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Postby YumYum74 » Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:15 pm

thewatcher1 wrote:Theres a meaning that goes "you got to pay to play" and these guys want to play with these American pornstars but don't want to pay. Let's face it American and some UK pornstars command a much heftier compensation than the Euro and South American girls that these guys get for cheap. They are more famous, make money on the side and have certain standards that has to be met for them to sign a contract. No matter what these perverts here me included want for these girls to be sexually violated it's not gonna happen unless these guys who own this site pay up. I mean why would they even do that if they can pay these no name women from the streets dirt money to keep this website running, as long as the perverts here continue to pay and tolerate it nothing's gonna change.



If I'm reading this right you're implying the people at AV desperately want to shoot with the 'famous' American pornstars, but they don't wanna pay their fee cause they're cheapskates. You know this how? Because we don't see a lot of American girls?
And instead they settle for European 'no name women from the street'?

Setting aside some obvious reasons (of course a European porn site will shoot mostly European girls, Covid travel restrictions etc), I think you're very dismissive of the European stars here. You may not like them as much as you like American girls, but calling them 'no name women from the street' is condescending and unnecessary.

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Postby SimplyStunning » Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:39 am

The answer is simple, too much piss, prolapse, vomit and no pussy scenes. I'm starting to only check AnalVids once a week and the possibility of finding a scene to purchase is still low.
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Postby jerrybb » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:52 pm

I love this website and it's better than it has ever been

Evil Angel just can't compete anymore.
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Postby beklof » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:50 am

avanfurwet wrote:
beklof wrote:
I find it a little strange to claim to another that something is still cheap if the other has just stated that it is not. If I say, for example, about a computer that it’s expensive, then yeah, it’s expensive for me. It doesn’t get cheap for me just because my friend next to me claims it’s pretty cheap...

It's exactly as valid for DAP-A to say the content here is cheap and for Angel Eyes to say it's expensive. Neither is correct and both are correct. Because there is no absolute standard to measure against so neither can be correct. Equally, value for money is an individual judgement for each buyer so both are correct, for them. Who cares? It's a pointless argument. People can freely choose to buy here, or not. As long as enough people continue to buy, the business is probably doing something right.

beklof wrote:"I think if we really hate some scenes, we can either consider using video editing software to remove those parts or not buy them and take our business elsewhere."

How can you judge whether a video is good or bad based on a 1.5 minute compilation alone? I mean, on this site, it’s the only way to try to rate the content of a video. Because you have to pay for each steaming or download separately, there is always a risk that you have paid in vain. When I subscribe to any other porn site, I pay a monthly fee (let’s say € 25) and stream it and download as many videos as I want. Then if the video is junk, I won't lose anything. If there are 5 in a row, same thing. Stream here or download 5 lousy videos so you have automatically paid separately for five lousy videos. Let's say each of them cost 7 tkt. So, you've paid 35 tkt for just the garbage. But if I have misunderstood something about this payment system here, correct my misunderstanding.

My response was specific to Vulture's dilemma that he saw some things he didn't like (e.g. manhandle) and this discouraged him from buying a scene, or he regretted buying a scene, which otherwise he thinks he would enjoy. He has the same information as everyone else, maybe a trailer and some time-lapse screenshots. Really all he can do is buy and edit it, or not buy it. I didn't claim it is a good solution, just that I think he has no other choices.

The subject of monthly subscriptions compared with pay-per-scene of course has been discussed many times. In answer to your comment about buying Pornbox scenes based on trailers/screenshots and possibly being disappointed, I think similar risks exist with a subscription website.

If you buy a monthly subscription for maybe EUR 30 you are hoping that they will publish some nice new scenes for you to download over the next 30 days. If it happens that they don't, or you don't like their scenes during that month, you have spent 30 EUR for nothing. Many subscribers buy annual subsciptions in advance for maybe EUR 200 or more, and not every subscription site will continue to publish good stuff every week. Some sites go downhill, publish fewer scenes, or just recyle old content (e.g. Score group in USA), or just disappear.

Both the subscription website and Pornbox will allow you to download back catalogues for free. Maybe the subscription websites are more generous about this, so you can download, e.g. very recent stuff for free. That can be good value, if you already spied some scenes that you want. However, in both cases you will likely cherry-pick what you want from the free back catalogue during your first month as a member.

After that, your monthly payments for subscription/tickets will probably buy current content. How many scenes per month will your subscription website actually publish? Will you like them? Does that subscription website suit you? Would it be better, or worse, for you to be able to pick and mix from the ~500 scenes which Pornbox will publish each month? Only you can judge for yourself. But I think the Pornbox model has some advantages for customers. For example, the back catalogue of scenes for sale is huge.

beklof wrote:Well,to summarize all this,so for me this site is quite expensive. That’s why I have to think infinitely carefully about what to stream or download. And yes, no one is forcing me to be on this site. I am here of my own free will. However, I don’t like it when someone tells a person (who is critical) to go elsewhere. He doesn’t have to go anywhere just because he’s critical! I have never understood why it is so hard for some people to swallow criticism?

Personally, I will continue to be critical if I see it necessary. Likewise, I’m going to continue here (if I see stuff which I like) even if I find the site expensive. The reason is that indeed, here you will find videos that you will not find anywhere else. That is an undisputed fact.

Anyone can criticise. IMO it's absolutely fine when somebody like you thinks and explains why they are criticising. Even better when the complainant appears to be sane.

Some other forum posters seem to have nothing to say beyond "I don't like it". which contributes exactly nothing and is slightly annoying. Maybe that's all they want.



Avanfurwet, thank you for the good answer as well as the many necessary remarks. Unfortunately, I couldn’t answer earlier because I’ve been elsewhere.

I agree that the discussion would make more sense if the writer also justified his opinion. Personally, I am eager to argue about everything and say my opinion directly. I have never been afraid to disagree with the majority and I do not bow to authorities. The problem is more that my writings tend to be unnecessarily long and they easily go aside on the subject itself, haha. In addition, problems are sometimes caused by the fact that English is not my native language. That’s why I apologize to those who might read my writings if my expressions, words, and sentence structure sometimes sound weird.

I noticed that there has continued an interesting discussion here about the current level of AV / LP and that is a good thing. It’s interesting to read people’s views, praise, criticism, and suggestions for improvement. And you can easily see how much the views differ from each other.

Here, one guy told that he has met no matter how many girls who like slapping. Well, I’ve also known no matter how many girls and none of them have asked me to slap them during sex. In general, I have never met a single woman who would like it if her face were slapped. I have to say I'm wondering a little bit about that guy what kind of girls he's really dating ??

Then I still want to tell you about one video here that I recently watched that I think says something about the negative phenomenon that is often associated with current porn videos. It features one of my favorites, Anita Blanche. The video has 8 different dap positions and its official manufacturing code is SZ2699. I expected a lot from the video but I was really disappointed. Male actors are like robots and they do everything like robots. It’s as if someone starts robots to make pre-programmed patterns and they then do everything according to the programming. There is no feelings and no moment of any real sexual intensity. Everything is crowned by the final climax where the men first masturbate alternately themselves and then cum and Anita swallows everything as suddenly as possible and the viewer is left with nothing in the hand. Actually, as a viewer, I remain like an outsider. That was the feeling I had after that video. And I claim videos like this are seen here all too often these days.

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