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Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:06 am

by error01x

What do you guys think of plastic surgery? What are Go's and NoGo's? Why? Examples of good and bad surgery.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:20 am

by scarletxxx666

is nice but i think is inferior cuz is artificial

natural > artificial

can a girl with big silicone breasts compete with a girl with smaller natural breasts????

they may be hotter & bigger but they are made of plastic so

like a boxer full pumped with steroids trying to compete with a boxer with no steroids

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:15 am

by ryukenmaster666

No go.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:34 am

by Iddaoeeok

Unfortunately we have a world full of women who want to look like a Kardashian. God knows why.

I dislike facial plastic surgery most of all, because it's designed to make everyone look alike. I really hate nose jobs, I have never seen any model improved by having their nose done, they usually just become bland and anonymous, a nose adds character to face, imperfection is beautiful. The pumped up lips thing just makes women (and men!) look ridiculous - I can see how it might work in porn, in a sort of hyper bimbo/pornstar way, but, in real life, no way, I'd run a million miles from a woman with those kind of lips!

Boob jobs, I don't mind so much.

Butt implants are laughable.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:05 pm

by YumYum74

In most cases: absolutely no go.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:15 pm

by error01x

In my opinion they did a very good job here

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:45 pm

by Starrio

I'm not against plastic surgeries, it's only bad if they make her look worse, but there are many times when you see clear improvements.

However most girls can benefit from just squatting more.

A lot of women underestimate how much difference squatting can do for them.

It's actually an insane difference. People look like two different persons. It is so crazy that sometimes it makes you question how much genes matter.

It just takes a lot of effort and consistency, but it can work for most girls' goals.

https://youtu.be/RFcg053M-gw

Just having more solid thighs is the difference between selling a lot of scenes and becoming a top performer.

Just look at this girl:

She is not particularly young, you can tell she is young, but not that much, and she only has one scene, just one, and yet she is one of the top selling models at Valter Karo. Why? Just look at that toned body, it really makes a difference.

And for the girls that don't want big thighs they can still benefit.

Look at Izabel Goulart. She doesn't have big thighs, her legs are thin, but she still squats a lot, and that makes all the difference, to the point that she is in Sports Illustrated and Victoria's Secret.

No surgery necessary at all. 100% natural transformers with just a lot of squatting.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:18 pm

by error01x

Fitness is all about food

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:18 pm

by Iddaoeeok

error01x wrote:In my opinion they did a very good job here

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Lightened her skin too? I prefer the first photo 100%, I hate that ski slope nose they give every single woman so they all look as identical as possible.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:19 pm

by error01x

And of course training like you said. But if you dont eat the rights things fitness is for nothing

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:21 pm

by error01x

Iddaoeeok wrote:
error01x wrote:In my opinion they did a very good job here

da099a06dbefebe33d1cbb6a27c61b31.jpg

Lightened her skin too? I prefer the first photo 100%, I hate that ski slope nose they give every single woman so they all look as identical as possible.

Yeah the nose look all the same, but I think its better anyway. It depends how the nose is before, but in here case. But its all taste. Thats the actual beauty ideology for noses I guess

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:23 pm

by Starrio

error01x wrote:And of course training like you said. But if you dont eat the rights things fitness is for nothing

Body weight is about food yes, but muscles don't get hard unless you use them.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:24 pm

by error01x

Iddaoeeok wrote:
error01x wrote:In my opinion they did a very good job here

da099a06dbefebe33d1cbb6a27c61b31.jpg

Lightened her skin too?

Maybe she was not much in the sun. My skin could be white till brown too

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:28 pm

by Iddaoeeok

error01x wrote:
Iddaoeeok wrote:
error01x wrote:In my opinion they did a very good job here

da099a06dbefebe33d1cbb6a27c61b31.jpg

Lightened her skin too? I prefer the first photo 100%, I hate that ski slope nose they give every single woman so they all look as identical as possible.

Yeah the nose look all the same, but I think its better anyway. It depends how the nose is before, but in here case. But its all taste. Thats the actual beauty ideology for noses I guess

You're right, it is a taste thing, I happen to really like the kind of nose the girl had before surgery, I find it very attractive and sexy - if there is a beautiful face to go with it! I don't like the idea of women - and men - being brainwashed by the media/Hollywood etc into believing there is only one type of beauty, we should celebrate the diversity of the human race not try and limit it with surgery.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:44 pm

by error01x

We all got brainwashed since children in school, its really hard. Maybe Im a victim too because I hate hook noses.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:46 pm

by error01x

Starrio wrote:
error01x wrote:And of course training like you said. But if you dont eat the rights things fitness is for nothing

Body weight is about food yes, but muscles don't get hard unless you use them.

Yeah but when you eat the wrong things even if you train hard, the body fat dont goes away. So your body cant be defined

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:47 pm

by error01x

I mean for girls thats very important.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:55 pm

by ryukenmaster666

scarletxxx666 wrote:can a girl with big silicone breasts compete with a girl with smaller natural breasts????

Personnaly, unless the breasts are really ugly, no. The Dellai sisters are a a proof for me. A special proof for me, for another reason :

I have an ex, she was Evelyne Dellai flat. I found it super cute, fits her perfectly. Now, under pressure, she has implants like Sylvia. Still cute, because not oversized like Barbie Esm (thanks god) but I prefer her natural ones by far.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:28 pm

by error01x

For example Clea Gaultiers nose job was not so good. I liked her nose better before. Her doctor cut to much away from her nose: Its not bad but she had not a good doctor.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:18 pm

by Starrio

error01x wrote:Yeah but when you eat the wrong things even if you train hard, the body fat dont goes away. So your body cant be defined

Yeah, but there are people with low body fat that aren't in shape.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:22 pm

by error01x

Starrio wrote:
error01x wrote:Yeah but when you eat the wrong things even if you train hard, the body fat dont goes away. So your body cant be defined

Yeah, but there are people with low body fat that aren't in shape.

For this it exist silicon muscle implants like from Barbie Kenn haha

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:31 pm

by Starrio

error01x wrote:For this it exist silicon muscle implants like from Barbie Kenn haha

Or they can squat

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:10 pm

by netzerkaiser

[quote="Iddaoeeok"]Unfortunately we have a world full of women who want to look like a Kardashian. God knows why.

I dislike facial plastic surgery most of all, because it's designed to make everyone look alike. I really hate nose jobs, I have never seen any model improved by having their nose done, they usually just become bland and anonymous, a nose adds character to face, imperfection is beautiful.

You're so right. But you need to understand that these decisions are usually made by insecure 19 year olds who have none or little relationship with the parent who gave them this feature. They're just growing up, often their features haven't yet filled out to accomodate the nose. I know, I was that soldier. An awful lot of blame lies with medical profession, who these kids trust from an ethical angle, that its not all about money, which clearly it is, but also from an aesthetic angle, that these bastards, sorry, professionals, will at least do a good job & understand how the outcome will be from all angles. Don't knock anyone who goes under knife too much... for one it takes guts... that can only be respected.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:13 pm

by netzerkaiser

netzerkaiser wrote:
Iddaoeeok wrote:Unfortunately we have a world full of women who want to look like a Kardashian. God knows why.

I dislike facial plastic surgery most of all, because it's designed to make everyone look alike. I really hate nose jobs, I have never seen any model improved by having their nose done, they usually just become bland and anonymous, a nose adds character to face, imperfection is beautiful.

You're so right. But you need to understand that these decisions are usually made by insecure 19 year olds who have none or little relationship with the parent who gave them this feature. They're just growing up, often their features haven't yet filled out to accomodate the nose. I know, I was that soldier. An awful lot of blame lies with medical profession, who these kids trust from an ethical angle, that its not all about money, which clearly it is, but also from an aesthetic angle, that these bastards, sorry, professionals, will at least do a good job & understand how the outcome will be from all angles. Don't knock anyone who goes under knife too much... for one it takes guts... that can only be respected.

From memory, knife was wrong word, a fucking 1989 hammer would be more accurate a description.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:24 am

by Starrio

netzerkaiser wrote:
Iddaoeeok wrote:Unfortunately we have a world full of women who want to look like a Kardashian. God knows why.

That can be very different things. People Know Kendall Jenner as a Kardashian too, and her body is different than Kim Kardashian. Both looks can be very powerful and that's why they are popular.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:46 am

by Seraph0257

what I hate is when someone who is already beautiful decides they aren't. Cléa Gaultier, Erica Fontes, Katrin Tequila... these are but a few women who were absolutely gorgeous, but lost something once they went under the knife.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:39 pm

by stewpidaz937

Starrio wrote:
netzerkaiser wrote:
Iddaoeeok wrote:Unfortunately we have a world full of women who want to look like a Kardashian. God knows why.

That can be very different things. People Know Kendall Jenner as a Kardashian too, and her body is different than Kim Kardashian. Both looks can be very powerful and that's why they are popular.

We all know he meant Kim Kardashian. I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with either look but I really don’t understand the Kim Kardashian appeal either, and I totally agree about the imperfection is beautiful. I don’t believe any of those super models are getting their looks from squatting, they are twigs. They don’t eat.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:20 pm

by Starrio

stewpidaz937 wrote: I don’t believe any of those super models are getting their looks from squatting, they are twigs. They don’t eat.

If you just don't eat without squatting you just look like bones, no muscles at all, and top models are all muscle. Not eating alone isn't going to get you those legs.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:14 pm

by error01x

Almost all models train

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:15 pm

by error01x

I know it, believe me.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:18 pm

by Starrio

error01x wrote:I know it, believe me.

Yup, I'm a photographer myself. These girls don't have those bodies just because of genes. They put the hard work.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:23 pm

by Jocke

There is one simple surgery which is practised too seldom and that is removing warts and misplaced moles. Why on eart take the risk of a huge transplant and then keep ugly moles that can be removed in seconds?
Steve Holmes has a huge wart next to his right nipple. I cannot watch his scenes.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:39 am

by DPraved

Jocke wrote:There is one simple surgery which is practised too seldom and that is removing warts and misplaced moles. Why on eart take the risk of a huge transplant and then keep ugly moles that can be removed in seconds?
Steve Holmes has a huge wart next to his right nipple. I cannot watch his scenes.

Yeah, that's pretty much the only form of enhancement I would actually encourage. Large warts or moles distract me to no end. Apart from that, I don't hate boob enhancement for girls with sagging tits, but only if the result looks reasonably natural.
What I hate with a passion is lip fillers and the like: Because they are cheap, they run absolutely rampant among young models and they more often than not completely ruin a girl's face.

I don't think already beautiful girls realize just how delicate the balance of features, that combine into what humans perceive as beautiful, really is. The end result is that these "cheap" procedures will almost always break that balance and turn what was beautiful into something that looks weird.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:59 am

by error01x

I say its better to let the body be natural, but in some cases a surgery really helps to look better. For a nose job you really must have a doctor that only make noses. Not a doctor which make tits and ass and noses. And for a jaw surgery you really need a specialist for jaws. Because I did both.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:05 am

by tbc168

Jocke wrote:There is one simple surgery which is practised too seldom and that is removing warts and misplaced moles. Why on eart take the risk of a huge transplant and then keep ugly moles that can be removed in seconds?
Steve Holmes has a huge wart next to his right nipple. I cannot watch his scenes.

Re: Plastic Surgery Go's/NoGo's

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:08 am

by error01x

tbc168 wrote:
Jocke wrote:There is one simple surgery which is practised too seldom and that is removing warts and misplaced moles. Why on eart take the risk of a huge transplant and then keep ugly moles that can be removed in seconds?
Steve Holmes has a huge wart next to his right nipple. I cannot watch his scenes.

Wwww Waaaart!

Great movie