dap-addict wrote:hyapet wrote:Well, it's really fascinating read a porn user adhering to such traditional values like you have hyapet!
This said I completely dont agree with your definition of relationship. It sounds so old fashioned to me, and also suppressive for both partners needs and sexual dreams.
Apologies for not having responded to this sooner. I somehow missed it. My bad.
You might be confusing condoning the act with naming it properly.
It seems to be an overtly liberal fetish to destroy conservative things. It's like, you want to have an "everything goes fuck buddy" partnership with
anyone? Sure.
Go for it. But using the word "relationship" in such a context just cheapens the main word itself.
It's kind of like why white people don't go up to black people and be like, "Hey!
I'm black too!" It's like ...
no. You're not.A relationship has a certain implication to it. It means more than "the Universe decided to randomly put these two people in close proximity to one another."
Rather, it implies, that despite
everything the Universe might try to do, these two people will ride it out together no ifs, ands, or secondary butts on the side. The "structure" of a relationship has certain identifiers to it. Like, the word "cheating" can be implied during a relationship. What is cheating? It's when one partner goes and has sexual relations with someone other than the person they're in a relationship with. If that shit's allowed - then -
it isn't a relationship anymore. One of the key identifiers of qualifying it as such has disappeared, and so, therefore, the definition must not be used.
Or else, what could consist of a relationship? What could consist of a marriage for that point? I could say, "I met someone in a hotel bar one night for some drinks, we found out we're not compatible with one another, decided to go our own ways, and never met again. She's my wife."
Someone would then naturally ask, "But ... you said you went your own ways ... did you meet up later and get married?"
"No," I would reply, "I never saw her again."
"But then ... how is she your wife?"
"Well," I would say, "I consider her as such. I call her my wife.
That's all that matters."
"But ..." the person would respond, "You don't really know each other, you only met once, you ... never even got married! How can she be your wife?!"
"As I said," I would reply, "I consider her as such. Why would
your definition of the term matter? I have a different idea of what a wife is - and you can't tell me that I'm wrong."
Just that ...
You can tell me that I'm wrong. Why?
Because for words themselves to have any meaning - they have to, get this,
actually mean something!So ...
no.This openly fucking a whole bunch of different people are
not relationships.Relationships have weight, and stakes, and have people prohibiting their actions they might otherwise take because they care for
somebody other than just themselves (oh shit, eh?). That's why, as I just said,
relationships have weight. The term itself has weight. It implies that a rather difficult and tricky undertaking has occurred, and that trickiness and difficulty is what gives both the act,
and the word representing it, actual meaning.Even though I am conservative in nature - my conservatism isn't hard-lined into everything I am or do. I am ... talking to you on a porn forum where the pornography being produced, at one point, had a girl take six cocks up her ass
at the same time.That being said - I am a stickler for
representing reality as it actually is.There's a million words to describe what liberal "we have sex with everyone" people do. Situationships. Fuck-buddies. Hooker-diving. You name it - there are a million terms for it.
Just let the conservatives have their
one fucking word that describes the thing they like to do. Don't rob it. Don't shit over it. Don't redefine. Just leave it alone.
Because doing otherwise doesn't portray some kind of "open-mindedness" that "everything can be anything if we want it to be."
Rather, it portrays nothing but
regret. It's like, "This is honestly the situation I would rather be in, but I'm not there. So I'm going to pretend that I am, and then ask that everyone else to act like I'm there as well. And then, maybe by some miracle, if
everyone is pretending that I'm doing the thing I'm not actually doing, I'll somehow trick myself into believing I am, and not be as miserable with the choices I made as this current vain attempt to escape said reality seems to be proving I am."
So -
no.People fucking other people
aren't in a relationship.
They might try to fool themselves into thinking that, but that's either the side-effects of weakness or stupidity.
You want to go around fucking a whole bunch of randoms - or form some kind of kink club?
Go nuts. Seriously. Go for it. You do you.
Just don't pretend with everyone that's there that you're all thinking about getting married with one another in some massive group wedding. Shit doesn't work like that. Reality doesn't work like that.
And the words we use ... should reflect reality.