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reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:05 pm
by latu123
Why are some actors only tip fucking?
What's the reason?
Does it prevent them from cumming?

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:25 pm
by dap-addict
I doubt, they cum on demand.
Its all for the camera and the girl.
Camera can shoot more visible and graphic penetrations if studs tip-fuck easier.
And also for girl its easier anal if stud doenst go all the way in, especially in double penetrations, but also single ones. To work with tip-fucking studs is just easier work, less tireing usually, less risk of painful anal moments.

Now this is an explanation. But not what I want as a user ofc: As user I want the camera to get me a good view despite balls deep fucking and the girls to prepare their ass for the real and deep thing. How she does it is her business, it can be done and I pay her with my tickets to give me a good show, that's all. Directors should do more for anal sex quality control, definitely!

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:32 pm
by drevokocur66
Number one reason for not purchasing a scene (aside from scene not wet)... tip fucking. Partial insertions, lazy angle tip fucking, barely moving the tip fucking... so annoyingly boring and lame.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:37 pm
by dap-addict
I just bought of a better girls fee structure according to her real anal sex commitment.
Something like an A and B rate for each sex act going rate: tip-fucking being the B-rate. A bit like we have already with wet and dry. And also with each additional stud over 3 studs.
But I'm afraid its too complicated probably for payouts at the end of every scene.
Though maybe a studio with a good and porn dedicated set assistant should just start it...
An additional job for Falco maybe? ;)

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:46 pm
by dap-addict
edit:
Fucking self-correction! :mad:
I just thought of...


Anyway, reformed fee model would be:
Local sex act base rate
+
individual rate
+
added fee H for each added stud over basically 3on1: ie. 2x H
+
added fee G for wet
+
bonus payment for balls deep anal

1on1 anal base fee could be ideally doubled for the girl that way by doing wet and balls deep (bd). Means the lowest LP base rate would be much higher, in effect we would get more 1on1 anal scenes probably. But than girls always wanna earn more, thus gang bangs would still pay better as well ofc.
True bd-scenes could than also get charged a bit higher for end user in tkt prices of course! :)

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:04 pm
by Eloise
drevokocur66 wrote:Number one reason for not purchasing a scene (aside from scene not wet)... tip fucking. Partial insertions, lazy angle tip fucking, barely moving the tip fucking... so annoyingly boring and lame.


+1
Exactly THIS.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:07 pm
by davebowman
Balls deep, or go home.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:13 pm
by OKCTwister
Big productions like Evil Angel, Brazzers, PervCity, Kink, Dorcel, J&M, even Tushy do not tip fuck for the simple reason that they are not restricted to the all anal oriented production crap
This is a phenomenon symptomatic to LP in order to lure newbies to get into anal
The result is unwatchable: not only the tip fucking but also the painfully slow-motion fuck

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:42 pm
by Eloise
Tushy by FAR is the number 1 tip fucking site.
That Andre Agassi look alike what's his name oh that's right Christian Clay is the KING of TIPFUCKING of all times.

LD003

https://www.legalporno.com/watch/214387 ... king_ld003

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Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:59 am
by OKCTwister
I don't give a shit about 1-on-1 scenes
I only watch and vouch for more than 2 on 1 scenes involving simultaneous penetrations and there DP scenes are fast moving and deep
Same for Woodman Casting & WUNF

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:33 am
by Eloise
But the topic is "tip fucking".

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:41 am
by Kaderon
OKCTwister wrote:Big productions like Evil Angel, Brazzers, PervCity, Kink, Dorcel, J&M, even Tushy do not tip fuck for the simple reason that they are not restricted to the all anal oriented production crap


The USA is the kingdom of tipfucking. With the Vixen group (Tushy, Black...) there is only tipfucking. The girls want a lot of money, but no stress or inconvenience. That is why penetrations are often only "implied". Often the male actors are also too small. I always have to laugh when Marcus Dupree or Jules Jordan tries anal sex on a girl with a bigger ass, and then can't even get the tip in properly because the cheeks are too big.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:59 am
by Eloise
Speaking of Vixen: here's the King of Tipfucking again - for all the pussy lovers outhere -> it's vaginal

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Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:33 pm
by OKCTwister
Soon you people are gonna claim Woodman casting & WUNF also does tip fucking
This is how much full of shit you are

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:06 pm
by Eloise
On the contrary: I stated that Woodman in particular can be bashed a lot around here but at least his fucking part is at least on par at which point that Blue Shadow charactor jumped on the bandwagon to bash be on that subject.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:07 pm
by Eloise
Kaderon wrote:
OKCTwister wrote:Big productions like Evil Angel, Brazzers, PervCity, Kink, Dorcel, J&M, even Tushy do not tip fuck for the simple reason that they are not restricted to the all anal oriented production crap


The USA is the kingdom of tipfucking. With the Vixen group (Tushy, Black...) there is only tipfucking. The girls want a lot of money, but no stress or inconvenience. That is why penetrations are often only "implied". Often the male actors are also too small. I always have to laugh when Marcus Dupree or Jules Jordan tries anal sex on a girl with a bigger ass, and then can't even get the tip in properly because the cheeks are too big.


Exactly this!
Most of all it's the combination of a curvy (American for just plain obese) girl and a pencildick which make things unwatchable.
Even guys with big dicks would appear small with a whale like that.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:08 am
by OKCTwister
Well curvy is what any decent person with vagina should look like
Everything thing else are a bunch of trannies

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:11 am
by bake0213
Eloise wrote:
Exactly this!
Most of all it's the combination of a curvy (American for just plain obese) girl and a pencildick which make things unwatchable.
Even guys with big dicks would appear small with a whale like that.


Try living here when damn near everyone is fat! Add in that Americans also happen to be stupid and it makes me want to scream.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:01 am
by MackZatis
So glad there is no massive sweeping generalizations going on here.
Just for sake of balance; it could be said that ALL European peoples are short, hairy, smelly & have horrible teeth.... Also that mostly everybody is skinny because they’re all poor. You know uneducated farmers, cab drivers, food servers, etc....
But since there are no sweeping generalizations going on, I’m not saying that.
I do assume though that a vast majority of the population here on the LP forums are on the continent of Europe, being that is where this company/business is mostly located and operates. Now assuming that, it stands to reason that the vast majority of the America hatred / negative viewpoints ALSO are coming from Europe/European peoples.
Correct???
Well for sake of this post, let’s say yes it is.
But now is where it gets interesting, considering as of 2017; 41% +/- of “Americans” are of direct European ancestry or decent (that holds true both historically and currently). That means there’s almost a 50/50 chance you’re disparaging your own people....

Don’t know where I was going with that, or even why, it happened to cross my mind as I read the different posts...

PS. Nobody get their panties all twisted up. There was nothing serious meant here, this it was all just good-natured fun. People are TOO sensitive nowadays

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:18 am
by Eloise
It's getting worse by the DAY.

Literally this whole MRS007 video was TIPFUCKING or NOT EVEN HALF WAY IN at best.
WTF?!


https://www.legalporno.com/watch/214702 ... ife_mrs007

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:45 am
by drevokocur66
Eloise wrote:It's getting worse by the DAY.

Literally this whole MRS007 video was TIPFUCKING or NOT EVEN HALF WAY IN at best.
WTF?!


https://www.legalporno.com/watch/214702 ... ife_mrs007


One thing I won't watch feven or free, much less buy, is condom porn.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:46 am
by Kaderon
OKCTwister wrote:Well curvy is what any decent person with vagina should look like
Everything thing else are a bunch of trannies


Now that was not directed against bigger butts. I prefer bigger butts...that's why I barely watch LP scenes anymore. My point was that in the USA there are mostly male performers who are too small for pro porn. And there is a lot of tip fucking because of that.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:36 pm
by OKCTwister
Eloise wrote:It's getting worse by the DAY.

Literally this whole MRS007 video was TIPFUCKING or NOT EVEN HALF WAY IN at best.
WTF?!


https://www.legalporno.com/watch/214702 ... ife_mrs007


If I had Lilly Veroni for 46min, she wouldn't be able to walk for the next 3 weeks or so

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:15 pm
by dap-addict
If Lilly Veroni were your work mate and your job and thus income depended also on her wellbeing you would take care of her and not over-work her and sure not hurt her. ;)

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:42 pm
by OKCTwister
dap-addict wrote:If Lilly Veroni were your work mate and your job and thus income depended also on her wellbeing you would take care of her and not over-work her and sure not hurt her. ;)


Well that's exactly why tip fucking is ruling LP: quality vs quantity
May be it was probably a judicious idea for the LP producer not to shoot MRS007 at all if that scene is receiving complaints and bad reviews

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:20 pm
by dap-addict
MRS007 is shot by Max Rajoy, NOT by LP.
His new studio is one of the outside amateur or more pro studios just selling their stuff on pornbox.
Dornbox would need more quality control as well, I agree, but its a matter of their management. They see themselves only as a platform, while core LP studios (gonzo, GIO/GL, N&F, YE) have another threshold to reach.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:05 am
by Eloise
NF 068.

The tipfucking here literally goes on for minutes.

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Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:49 am
by miamiguy926
Sometimes I swear these girls take the dildo at the beginning of scenes deeper than the actual dicks.

There are a handful of girls on here that can take dicks like a champ.

Tkt prices have went up but scene intensity has definitely decreased.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:15 am
by drevokocur66
Number one reason I don't purchase a site membership is "tip fucking" Absolutely unwatchable. Here at LP I get a choice not to purchase tip fuck trash.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:18 pm
by Eloise
My point exactly.
I really don't get it.
This is by far failure number #1 and it's almost in every production.
How difficult is it anyway?

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:15 pm
by drevokocur66
Eloise wrote:My point exactly.
I really don't get it.
This is by far failure number #1 and it's almost in every production.
How difficult is it anyway?


There are any number of reasons it is done, but basically always boils down to $$$.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:07 pm
by Eloise
I find that interesting.
Very interesting.

Any idea how much the price difference is between

- tipfucking
- a quarter in
- half way in
- three quarters in
- balls deep

?

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:52 am
by drevokocur66
Eloise wrote:I find that interesting.
Very interesting.

Any idea how much the price difference is between

- tipfucking
- a quarter in
- half way in
- three quarters in
- balls deep

?


I don't think it is that simple. There is also prep, accidents tend to happen more often with balls deep, clean up, studio time etc. The less time it takes to shoot a scene, the more they can shoot. I imagine the girls tend to cum more often with balls deep, which in some cases requires a break, and down time. Down time =no money being made. The less worn out the girl, the more scenes she can shoot. Similar like fake creampie. They guy can shoot more scenes per day, if he doesn't come every single scene. But again, it is all about the $$$.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:39 am
by _19922
You do realize not every girl can take it balls deep? Especially if not well prepared, it's not just about the money... :rolleyes:

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:59 am
by drevokocur66
_19922 wrote:You do realize not every girl can take it balls deep? Especially if not well prepared, it's not just about the money... :rolleyes:


Effort and enthusiasm is what counts.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:22 pm
by Eloise
_19922 wrote:You do realize not every girl can take it balls deep? Especially if not well prepared, it's not just about the money... :rolleyes:


You do realise (that's right: the correct spelling) that when you put up a video with a bragging title "Balls Deep Anal" or "Hard Anal" and expect customers to PAY for it a customer AT LEAST may EXPECT some of that shit is happening in the video?

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:07 pm
by DPraved
Eloise wrote:
_19922 wrote:You do realize not every girl can take it balls deep? Especially if not well prepared, it's not just about the money... :rolleyes:


You do realise (that's right: the correct spelling) that when you put up a video with a bragging title "Balls Deep Anal" or "Hard Anal" and expect customers to PAY for it a customer AT LEAST may EXPECT some of that shit is happening in the video?

While I don't like your posting style in general, at least this particular crusade of yours is a worthy one. Tip fucking has no place in what gets advertised as hard anal, and if producers and models settle for low effort they should expect low reward as well.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:31 pm
by davebowman
Sometimes it's a deliberate director's decision (they think it looks better' for some strange reason), and sometimes it's to save wear and tear on a girl's ass that just can't take it. I suspect a lot of the time though, it's just down to laziness - less thrusting required by the performers, spend half as much energy on a scene, get it done with the minimum required effort, and move on to the next scene of the day.

I do have some sympathy for these folks, especially if they are fucking for literally hours a day for a paycheck that might not be all that amazing - but as a viewer it's always disappointing.

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:45 pm
by vnhaln52
Studios make a big deal about how big the stud's dick is and how hard the girl gets fucked when describing the scene. When you see the actual scene the guy is fucking her with 1-2 inches of his dick. Dredd is a big one for that. Whats the point of all the big dick talk if the girl is only taking a small portion of the cock?

Re: reasons for tip fucking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:54 pm
by Eloise
vnhaln52 wrote:Studios make a big deal about how big the stud's dick is and how hard the girl gets fucked when describing the scene. When you see the actual scene the guy is fucking her with 1-2 inches of his dick. Dredd is a big one for that. Whats the point of all the big dick talk if the girl is only taking a small portion of the cock?


In this case it all makes less and less sense then.
Overall the dicks that do tipfucking are pencil dicks or just average and often the girls are known for being able to handle a much more harder fucking than shown in these almost vanilla like shows.

Just look at the NF 068 from which I included the screenshot.
It lasts for minutes literally with a pace the girl easy could fall asleep to.
It's pathetic.