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I have enjoyed the piss development.
I also support cum play by the girls of all kind.
Ass licking by the guys is a must. Guys getting licked we can skip.
Fisting is great.
We should have much more fingers in ass to licking. I do it all the time and I always have my thumb in her ass while licking or if pussy fucking.
What other sex act that are not BDSM etc could be added?

I have come to the conclusion that it is difficult to make nastier sex acts without including a bit more psychology. In the end it is a brain fuck anyhow.
I enjoyed when one girl was met in the corridor and her trousers pulled down for a public fuck. The sex action was traditional but her being new and directly getting a dick up her ass was sexy much because you could see her thoughts on her face.
The mother daughter scenes or the twins scenes are also great because of the psychology because otherwise they are quite traditional scenes.
Francesca DePalma drinking piss with her mother was great!
Mature women if they are well kept is a great addition because it is naughtier to fuck an experienced woman than to fuck a silly juvenile.
I like what is called "casual pissing" which is when girls in everyday situations like cooking or out walking starts to piss while in a conversation as if it was natural.

Do you have any examples of when the situation is as important as the sex?

Great topic Jocke and one close to my heart.

I have recently been watching a lot of JAV porn (only on xvideos so far) and they do the situational type porn so well!
It’s not as focused just on cocks in holes but is still nasty as fuck.
I know for some people it’s gimmicky or even a bit ‘rapey’ (there’s quite a lot of pretend resistance which sometimes goes too far for my tastes).
What they do nicely IMO is dress the girls like hot women or girls, not like hookers.
They parade and tease them well before the fucking starts, even kicking off with a full bukkake before the gangbanging even begins!
Fucking is energetic if a bit simple in terms of positions.

Walking the girls around with cock still up them is a favourite of mine too.

Some scenarios are a bit niche but also fun:
- bus gangbang ‘in public’
- newsreader bukkake - funny as fuck but hot too
- freezing time styles
- obviously a lot of schoolgirl outfits, air hostesses, business women, lots of hosiery...

If LP/AV could do their own hardcore anal spin on some of those concepts I think they could rule!
Like you say, it’s a mental game and the situation can really add to the nastiness if done properly!

I am all for the dirty, nasty, perverted route. But i don't think that we should necessarily stay away from the rough route.
Some roughness can add a lot of heat to a scene if done right. In fact, if the scene just does manhandling good enough you can easily dial down on the more demanding sex acts and it will still be really good to watch.

Jocke wrote:Mature women if they are well kept is a great addition because it is naughtier to fuck an experienced woman than to fuck a silly juvenile.

We all have different taste and mine is just the opposite of yours on this point. Seeing young teenage girls in porn is way more exciting to me.
Not only do they look a lot better, there is just something very perverted about sex with a girl young enough to still be going to school. The average male performer is typically a good bit older than that and the age-difference adds to the taboo.

The one and only redeeming quality older women got going for them is the higher sexual experience. So they can typically perform better in more demanding sex acts and rougher sex.
But that is exactly what you don't want to see!!???
And you cant possibly claim there is any shortage of older women performing right now? The milfs have already taken over this place in a big way.

So if the "dirty over hard" rout is viable at all i would say it is especially for the teen newbies. With their (often) lower sexual limits it also takes less demanding acts to have them at the edge of what they can handle. The rest we compensate for with better looks and more perversion.

Some easy ways to do this?


More nasty ATM and ATOGM!
Maybe even with some milk/cream in there to create a more complex and fulfilling ass flavor.





Just add water!





No need for DP, DVP, TP, DAP or TAP. Regular hard, balls deep anal is enough.



And finally, if we have have some pretty young things on the set it is extremely important that they show off their bodies to the camera. And if they are teens they should always be asked to tell the viewer how old they are. Always!

+1,000 for Piss drinking teacher/stdent in class room, Piss drinking in public bus, Piss drinking in office, Piss drinking step family(bro-sis, mom-son&daughter, father& brotgers-daughter) Roleplay movies

Thank you for responses. Had forgotten about the Japanese. I just love their roleplay and group fucking.
They had guys to fuck women through a wall and then rate them just to find out that they had rated their girlfriend lower than her mother, lol!

Yes, ATOGM is a must and therefore it is a must with more than one girl in a scene and in my opinion, one guy is enough and then I can pretend that I am him. I have no need to rub my dick against another dick. ATOGM after creampie is beautiful. I have always liked as well when buttholes and pussies are dripping. Who the hell wants dry holes? When a girl pull her panties and spread her butt and you can see that she has an oiled up shiny well prepared butthole, that is the best.

Anal and pissing with pregnant women is another fetish of mine.

Jocke wrote:Yes, ATOGM is a must and therefore it is a must with more than one girl in a scene and in my opinion, one guy is enough and then I can pretend that I am him.

Very much so. More scenes with one guy only, and use guys from different races -- it is easier to mentally identify with a cock the same shade as one's own :-D

ATOGM +1

Jocke wrote:I have come to the conclusion that it is difficult to make nastier sex acts without including a bit more psychology. In the end it is a brain fuck anyhow.

I think this is an important point you make.
What is missing more and more is emotionally tight hard scenes, like really believable manhandle for instance.
No mother/daugher or sister/sister or twin needed for me to make it more extreme, this is just a family tabu fetish anyway, but what is needed is tight hard and fast sex, rough power fucking, no pseudo violence crap, but passion!

I'm sorry, but when you say emotional, I can only think of a JAV porn I watched recently.

Basically, there is a happy couple, but their son needs to do a surgery, and for that they need a lot of money.

The woman reluctantly accepts a proposal of a loan shark to be his sex slave in exchange of he money. First he have regular sex with the wife, then in the second scene he ties and blindfolds her and uses a magic wand on her, and in the third he and his two minions gangbang and spitroast her, creampie inside her, and then force her to drop the cum on a portrait of her and her husband.

Pretty twisted stuff in terms of story, tame in the sexual act(no anal).

I personally hate guys doing anything with their mouth, but I do enjoy seeing the girls rimming the guys.

More Gooey Buns style endings... aka anal creampie to other girls mouth + cum swapping and swallowing

More real piss drinking, not just pouring a bowl of piss on top of the mouth.
Fucking girls with more than the first 2-3 inches of a dick.
DAP girls with more than the first 1-2 inches of a dick.

siciliano8 wrote:DAP girls with more than the first 1-2 inches of a dick.

+ 1
If we'd all agree not to count or recognize any DAP without both dicks moving and inside at least half, we had much less DAP here. DAPs have to get more intense! Not talking about DAPbreakin's ofc, but after 2-4 DAPs girls should be able to profess it deeper!

Its also a question of studs DAP-ing style ofc. And directors care not just to tick the DAP box, but actually turn it into a good one!

dap-addict wrote:

siciliano8 wrote:DAP girls with more than the first 1-2 inches of a dick.

+ 1
If we'd all agree not to count or recognize any DAP without both dicks moving and inside at least half, we had much less DAP here. DAPs have to get more intense! Not talking about DAPbreakin's ofc, but after 2-4 DAPs girls should be able to profess it deeper!

Its also a question of studs DAP-ing style ofc. And directors care not just to tick the DAP box, but actually turn it into a good one!

This goes for a lot of content. DP, Anal, Deephtroat, Piss drinking...