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LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:13 am
by pastaga
Here's my overall feedback of this difficult year :

Good :
- New italian models like Giada, Mary-Jane, Silvia Soprano...
- New russian models.
- Luis and Natsha etablished in south America.
- New directors in Russia and Prague as well.
- Nice work from Omar and Lady Dee who are slightly more diverse than Luis.

Bad :

- New Giorgio studio not bringing anything new, in fact the old building had more diverse rooms and settings.
- Giorgio's vid getting repetitive : no more themed scenes, special outfits and accessories, almost no big facials...
- 2/3 of the russian newbies already retired (Lottie Magne, Victoria Clockwork, Lina Piggy, Flick Luchik and so...)
- New studios on Pornbox almost every day, some of them releasing old stuff or poor quality vids. There should be some LP "sceal of aproval" (recent, anal action and 1080p minimum), no need to turn Pornbox into XVideos 2. At least just add a global filter for all the amateur productions.
- Still not enough before and after scene BTS.

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:37 am
by netzerkaiser
pastaga wrote:Here's my overall feedback of this difficult year :

Good :
- New italian models like Giada, Mary-Jane, Silvia Soprano...
- New russian models.
- Luis and Natsha etablished in south America.
- New directors in Russia and Prague as well.
- Nice work from Omar and Lady Dee who are slightly more diverse than Luis.

Bad :

- New Giorgio studio not bringing anything new, in fact the old building had more diverse rooms and settings.
- Giorgio's vid getting repetitive : no more themed scenes, special outfits and accessories, almost no big facials...
- 2/3 of the russian newbies already retired (Lottie Magne, Victoria Clockwork, Lina Piggy, Flick Luchik and so...)
- New studios on Pornbox almost every day, some of them releasing old stuff or poor quality vids. There should be some LP "sceal of aproval" (recent, anal action and 1080p minimum), no need to turn Pornbox into XVideos 2. At least just add a global filter for all the amateur productions.
- Still not enough before and after scene BTS.


Great post & thanks for reminding me of these great girls...

2/3 of the russian newbies already retired (Lottie Magne, Victoria Clockwork, Lina Piggy, Flick Luchik and so...)

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:34 am
by Tito1981
I agree 100%.especially on Giergio is most of his scene garbage. I like Giergio his interracial scene amazing. Wake waka blackbusrer series.

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:05 am
by hjohjole
All the Russian studios have done an amazing job. They are the true heroes of an otherwise bleak and forgettable year in porn.
They consistently keep binging us the hottest babes and some pretty decent scenes to.

Sure, there still may be a lot of room for improvement. But they have been real lifesavers.

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:14 am
by Starrio
This was my first year buying stuff from LP,so everything was new to me.

It's funny because I joined like 4 years ago, and didn't bought anything. I was too happy with my Teen Core Club subscription.

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:32 am
by magizi87
In general I think the bang for buck, is low for a porn website.

The average price for the latest 16 Gonzo scenes is 8.1 tkt per movie.
(excluding the pee scenes, which are probably more expensive).

The 3 month plan for $79.90 USD gets you about 17 new scenes during a 90 day period.

If you stretch it so it actually lasts the advertised 3 months,
you can only buy one scene, every 5 or 6 days.
Or else you run out of tkt almost immediately, lol

That is VERY expensive compared to most competitors.
For example, Blacked updates you with a new scene,
in a similar frequency, but it costs $99 for the whole year.
(compared to the $320 that LP would cost me).

The camera work and video quality of most productions
don't really command a premium price tag IMO.

And.....

The beauty of the models in general is not as impressive as it used to be.
I get the impression that at least half the population in Europe has tattoos
or body implants, based on the movies published this year.

Not a fan here obviously.

Also, the male actors,
if I could describe their performance in a single word, it would be "uninspired".

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:35 am
by Starrio
Yeah I dislike tattoos myself. They definitely need some kind of regulations because it seems they are taking advantage of all the girls. It is ridiculous. I don't understand why they gave to ruin do many beautiful women for quick buck. Some of those girls are truly gorgeous, and it is really sad to see all that beauty go to waste as soon as they start adding more and more tattoos to their bodies. It is hard to see girls without tattoos on LP, it makes no sense. They would look infinite times better without tattoos, and more elegant as well.

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:36 am
by Starrio
Yeah I dislike tattoos myself. They definitely need some kind of regulations because it seems they are taking advantage of all the girls. It is ridiculous. I don't understand why they have to ruin so many beautiful women for a quick buck.

Some of those girls are truly gorgeous, and it is really sad to see all that beauty go to waste as soon as they start adding more and more tattoos to their bodies.

It is hard to see girls without tattoos on LP, it makes no sense. They would look infinite times better without tattoos, and more elegant as well.

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:22 am
by dap-addict
Very nice analysis, pastaga! :)
I'll come back to it later. Generally I thing they have managed tremendous things despite that difficult year and all those travel restrictions. :) :cool:
Price rise was feels too abrupt and too high, though, magizi already mentioned it.


pastaga wrote:Bad :
- 2/3 of the russian newbies already retired (Lottie Magne, Victoria Clockwork, Lina Piggy, Flick Luchik and so...)

There seems to be no real investment in these girls careers.
Also each Piter director basically has a couple of girls exclusively for his/her studio and is thus basically not able to provide enough work for them. Thus most of them drop out fast again. I know several new Russian girls who can work but 1 scene per month for their agent = studio = director. That means a few hundred $$$ only, lower often than average Russia income. Especially for girls not living in Piter it simply hardly doenst pay like this. :( :confused:

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:59 am
by Kaderon
Very difficult to evaluate the LP year without the pandemic. The way LP handled this was considered very positive by many. Unfortunately, the LP year could not convince me at all.

Negative:

-I didn't find many of the girls attractive. Either they were very skinny, or looked used up. Were covered with big ugly tattoos, or generally looked very trashy.
-Most of the scenes looked very amateurish and cheap in terms of setting, build-up and male casting.
-Cookie cutter porn all year. The same handful of girls in the same scenes with the same guys over and over again.

Positive:

- LP could pay salary to many people.
- LP survived the pandemic year and will be ready to take off again in 2021.

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:02 am
by dap-addict
Kaderon wrote:Positive:
- LP could pay salary to many people.

+ 1
:)

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:23 pm
by misangrenegra2
My feedback:

Good :

- Even with the pandemic, LP keep going forward with their style and content. They recovered the releasing of scene every day after some bad months.

- New models in LP even with the pandemic

- New studios/directors/self-content bringing more "variety" for the costumers

Neutral:

- New custome scene system added: Don't know if currently is having popularity or is really working (is to soon yet?) but the old suggest system still exist without any effect

Bad :

- The increment of scenes prices without modifying any of the subscription plans or the prices of TKT packages or adding some new ones

- High prices (even more high) of the amateur content that are being more short and less professional

- MP system removed

- Missing some fantastic girls of different countries because of COVID.

- The new Giorgio studio brought 2-3 different locations at all, very similiars, the old studio had more locations. This can be applied to the others studios: the lack of locations

- The increase of wet content in Gio studio has been clear during 2020 left behind other kind of scenes or series. Some time ago piss content was released time to time but currently is almost obligatory

- Lack of storylines, outfits, accessories in almost all studios...Florane is who brings lately some fresh scenes with that things

- The intensivity on set has been standard (acceptable in general but some bad performances too) with some good scenes but some years ago was good more frequently, even the content of the past looks better in general

- Reduced interactuation of some directors on forum

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:29 pm
by avanfurwet
dap-addict wrote:Very nice analysis, pastaga! :)
I'll come back to it later. Generally I thing they have managed tremendous things despite that difficult year and all those travel restrictions. :) :cool:
Price rise was feels too abrupt and too high, though, magizi already mentioned it.


pastaga wrote:Bad :
- 2/3 of the russian newbies already retired (Lottie Magne, Victoria Clockwork, Lina Piggy, Flick Luchik and so...)

There seems to be no real investment in these girls careers.
Also each Piter director basically has a couple of girls exclusively for his/her studio and is thus basically not able to provide enough work for them. Thus most of them drop out fast again. I know several new Russian girls who can work but 1 scene per month for their agent = studio = director. That means a few hundred $$$ only, lower often than average Russia income. Especially for girls not living in Piter it simply hardly doenst pay like this. :( :confused:

But not all girls are tied to the apron strings of their debut producer/agency. Some e.g. Light Fairy are shooting for many producers. Those models can assess for themselves how much they can earn and how hard they have to work for it.

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:35 pm
by avanfurwet
stratogustav wrote:Yeah I dislike tattoos myself. They definitely need some kind of regulations because it seems they are taking advantage of all the girls. It is ridiculous. I don't understand why they have to ruin so many beautiful women for a quick buck.

Some of those girls are truly gorgeous, and it is really sad to see all that beauty go to waste as soon as they start adding more and more tattoos to their bodies.

It is hard to see girls without tattoos on LP, it makes no sense. They would look infinite times better without tattoos, and more elegant as well.

Who is taking advantage of the girls? Are they kidnapped and forced to have many tattoos?

(Actually some poor girls probably are forced to wear their pimps' "brand" as a tattoo.)

But I guess most girls are making their own decisions about tattoos, even if we think they are bad decisions.
Tattoos are just fashionable right now.

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:41 pm
by Starrio
By taking advantage I mean is that they are likely easy to sale to. They are still making the decisions themselves.

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:49 pm
by avanfurwet
magizi87 wrote:In general I think the bang for buck, is low for a porn website.

The average price for the latest 16 Gonzo scenes is 8.1 tkt per movie.
(excluding the pee scenes, which are probably more expensive).

The 3 month plan for $79.90 USD gets you about 17 new scenes during a 90 day period.

If you stretch it so it actually lasts the advertised 3 months,
you can only buy one scene, every 5 or 6 days.
Or else you run out of tkt almost immediately, lol

That is VERY expensive compared to most competitors.
For example, Blacked updates you with a new scene,
in a similar frequency, but it costs $99 for the whole year.
(compared to the $320 that LP would cost me).

The camera work and video quality of most productions
don't really command a premium price tag IMO ...


Agree with the price analysis, but also ...

"Blacked" and other websites are only $99/year if you pay up-front during one of their many "sales". Monthly membership costs more, maybe $20/month = $240/year.

Sites like "Blacked" within the Vixen brand are sold individually, not in multi-site bundles. You can't get e.g. "Tushy" scenes unless you pay again. You can't pick & mix like you can with Pornbox.

Personally I like "Blacked" and "Tushy", I like their glossy look and feel, but they are kind of repetitive and formulaic in the same way as people criticise e.g. Giorgio for.

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:55 pm
by avanfurwet
stratogustav wrote:By taking advantage I mean is that they are likely easy to sale to. They are still making the decisions themselves.

OK. I agree. But people are free to make bad decisions. And like in that old Lloyd Cole song, sometimes they end up regretting the permanent reminders written there in blue.

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:04 pm
by Starrio
avanfurwet wrote:
magizi87 wrote:In general I think the bang for buck, is low for a porn website.

The average price for the latest 16 Gonzo scenes is 8.1 tkt per movie.
(excluding the pee scenes, which are probably more expensive).

The 3 month plan for $79.90 USD gets you about 17 new scenes during a 90 day period.

If you stretch it so it actually lasts the advertised 3 months,
you can only buy one scene, every 5 or 6 days.
Or else you run out of tkt almost immediately, lol

That is VERY expensive compared to most competitors.
For example, Blacked updates you with a new scene,
in a similar frequency, but it costs $99 for the whole year.
(compared to the $320 that LP would cost me).

The camera work and video quality of most productions
don't really command a premium price tag IMO ...


Agree with the price analysis, but also ...

"Blacked" and other websites are only $99/year if you pay up-front during one of their many "sales". Monthly membership costs more, maybe $20/month = $240/year.

Sites like "Blacked" within the Vixen brand are sold individually, not in multi-site bundles. You can't get e.g. "Tushy" scenes unless you pay again. You can't pick & mix like you can with Pornbox.

Personally I like "Blacked" and "Tushy", I like their glossy look and feel, but they are kind of repetitive and formulaic in the same way as people criticise e.g. Giorgio for.


I tried those sites, and I like the LP videos and the models here more.

Many of the LP models still look innocent in their mannerisms.

The girls from those sites look like experienced bitches.

Those girls rarely do anal, in fact most of them don't.

The best scenes on those sites are the ones with LP models or ex LP models.

I hate cowgirl positions, and those sites are mostly cowgirl positions which are the worse.

I want to see a girl getting fucked not doing the fucking themselves.

The one thing everyone could improve though is to have less tip fucking and more pounding.

Porn in general needs more pounding, make it sound, like clapping but with the guy's torso hitting hard the girls' buttcheeks.

I also like to see the guy's grabbing and touching the girls, I wish we would see more of that as well.

I don't understand those guys that just want to see the girl naked and have guy tip fucking her. It makes no sense.

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:05 pm
by Starrio
avanfurwet wrote:
stratogustav wrote:By taking advantage I mean is that they are likely easy to sale to. They are still making the decisions themselves.

OK. I agree. But people are free to make bad decisions. And like in that old Lloyd Cole song, sometimes they end up regretting the permanent reminders written there in blue.


It makes it tricky because I can't think of how to prevent these bad decisions.

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:22 pm
by Starrio
I meant to say pelvis, no torso. Pelvis hitting the buttcheeks so they sound. That's pounding. We need more of that.

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:54 pm
by dap-addict
avanfurwet wrote:But not all girls are tied to the apron strings of their debut producer/agency. Some e.g. Light Fairy are shooting for many producers. Those models can assess for themselves how much they can earn and how hard they have to work for it.

I have spoken to quite a few new Piter girls and all of them were afraid if they change studio they will loose opportunities. Thus I'd have to have a closer look at Light Fairy's case. Maybe there are some alliances getting worked out finally a.o. For sure system like it worked most of 2020 isn't sustainable for girls really.
Only hope for many nice new Russian rookie talent we have seen in 2020 seems to be contact lists for the time travel restrictions are lifted. Some might than come-back for the higher Prague going rates. But a lot may be just gone. :( :confused:

Re: LP 2020 recap

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:39 pm
by bidibo
My opinion :

Good points :
- New good studio as N&F
- New girls as Zee twins or Tabitha Poison
- Several very good Italian girls as Giada Sgh
- Gonzo studio is better than last year

Bad points :
- Gorgio !!! It's normaly my best producer and studio but this year was not the good one : lack of model (explained by the covid crisis); too much repetitive models (I love Anna De Ville but when she is on 25% of all the scenes released .. it's borring); too much piss; no more narritive/creative scenes as Psycho Doctor or Clockwork.

I hope this year gonna be better.
Never give up guys !

Happy New year LP !