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- take a beautiful girl
- take a fuck object like a typical "fuck me" couch and USE IT TOO instead of doing nothing with it
- put the girl in doggy and fuck her for LONGER THAN ALL THESE 10 second turns





Studios: take notes.

Completely agree!
I always join EA a few times a year.
Which movie/girl is this?
Cheers!!!

This is Anal Elegance scene #04.



Just plain and simple straightforwarded fucking:

- no crazy acrobatics of 3,4,5 guys doing a helicopter position with only the tip halfway in
- no tipfucking anyway
- no male performer switches every 10 seconds and the girl not being able to get really into the motion
- no male performer(s) moaning more and louder than the female performer

How difficult is all this?!

Been a member ofr EA for as long as I can remember. Hands down the best on the web.

Yeah, i enjoy a lot of the absurdity and creative switch-ups as much as the next guy, but sometimes a simple long haul fucking is the hottest thing there is.

Voilà!
Monsieur Perry

(And no pencils, Eloise? Then this film is a good one.)

Eloise wrote:- take a beautiful girl
- take a fuck object like a typical "fuck me" couch and USE IT TOO instead of doing nothing with it
- put the girl in doggy and fuck her for LONGER THAN ALL THESE 10 second turns





Studios: take notes.

Great post Eloise. Kinda strange for me to see 'the other side' of your thoughts... my only exposure to you is like as the forums "Judge Dread". I'm well impressed by your thinking. Happy Christmas man.

There is literally only two things you need to do in order to make a good porn scene.

1: Get a pretty girl
2: Fuck her hard in the ass

Thats it!

It is unbelievable how often producers keeps fucking up the basics.

otto1219 wrote:yes, how hard can it be? It's pornography.

Very hard apparently - see my "review" on this one.

https://www.legalporno.com/watch/214591 ... iacs_ld004

May be too simple actually coz 45min - 1h of one-on-one no matter how hard it gets is boring like hell.
DP should be the bare minimum of hole destruction

OKCTwister wrote:May be too simple actually coz 45min - 1h of one-on-one no matter how hard it gets is boring like hell.
DP should be the bare minimum of hole destruction

That's my whole point here on this site it's 10 seconds max.

OKCTwister wrote:May be too simple actually coz 45min - 1h of one-on-one no matter how hard it gets is boring like hell.
DP should be the bare minimum of hole destruction

I can think of countless good 1on1 scenes that are exciting from start to finish. Just from top of my mind the Rocco intimate casting scenes with Luna Rival, Lina Luxa or Sara Bell.

Not a single time while i was watching those did i stop to think:

"Hey this is boring! You know what would make this better? If we could just stop everything and then bring in two more guys that would build a human pyramid and puzzle their dicks together and then finally start a slow grinding DP after a good long while... All of this just so that the girl can get fucked more in the pussy. Because pussy fucking is so got damn exciting to me that i want to see it all the time in every scene ever."

Dont get me wrong. I dont think that 1on1s are necessarily better than any other configuration. I enjoy many types of scenes. I just think that good old hard buttfucking is the most important building-block of any scene.

hjohjole wrote:

OKCTwister wrote:May be too simple actually coz 45min - 1h of one-on-one no matter how hard it gets is boring like hell.
DP should be the bare minimum of hole destruction

I can think of countless good 1on1 scenes that are exciting from start to finish. Just from top of my mind the Rocco intimate casting scenes with Luna Rival, Lina Luxa or Sara Bell.

Not a single time while i was watching those did i stop to think:

"Hey this is boring! You know what would make this better? If we could just stop everything and then bring in two more guys that would build a human pyramid and puzzle their dicks together and then finally start a slow grinding DP after a good long while... All of this just so that the girl can get fucked more in the pussy. Because pussy fucking is so got damn exciting to me that i want to see it all the time in every scene ever."

Dont get me wrong. I don't think that 1on1s are necessarily better than any other configuration. I enjoy many types of scenes. I just think that good old hard buttfucking is the most important building-block of any scene.

No matter how you rationalize it, 1-on-1 is minor league softcore porn by the simple fact that lots of pre-retiring pornstars revert back to softcore 1-on-1 before quitting:
Phoenix Marie, Simony Diamond, Mira Sunset to name a few because gangbangs involving balls deep rough DPs / DVPs/ DAPs take a nasty toll on their health
Hence, I consider women who fuck more than 1 dick simultaneously to be certified hardcore performers
I assimilate 1-on-1 scenes as solo silly toy play and that includes rough ones like the epic Rocco vs Bobbi Starr vs toilet bowl or Manuel Ferrara vs Angela White kind of scenes
Any experienced pornstar like Anna de Ville / Brittany Bardot would confirm having 1-on-1 sex is less exciting & less resourceful than gangbanging 3 dicks then swallowing 3 loads same time. The fact that these pay more per scene than 1-on-1 backs this argumentation.

OKCTwister wrote:Any experienced pornstar like Anna de Ville / Brittany Bardot would confirm having 1-on-1 sex is less exciting & less resourceful than gangbanging 3 dicks then swallowing 3 loads same time....

Hey why don't you head over to Anna's [spam]; put words in her mouth & speak on her behalf....

Let me know how that works out for ya....

hjohjole wrote:

OKCTwister wrote:May be too simple actually coz 45min - 1h of one-on-one no matter how hard it gets is boring like hell.
DP should be the bare minimum of hole destruction

I can think of countless good 1on1 scenes that are exciting from start to finish. Just from top of my mind the Rocco intimate casting scenes with Luna Rival, Lina Luxa or Sara Bell.

Not a single time while i was watching those did i stop to think:

"Hey this is boring! You know what would make this better? If we could just stop everything and then bring in two more guys that would build a human pyramid and puzzle their dicks together and then finally start a slow grinding DP after a good long while... All of this just so that the girl can get fucked more in the pussy. Because pussy fucking is so got damn exciting to me that i want to see it all the time in every scene ever."

Dont get me wrong. I dont think that 1on1s are necessarily better than any other configuration. I enjoy many types of scenes. I just think that good old hard buttfucking is the most important building-block of any scene.

"human pyramid" -> exactly this shit:

Notice in the above mentioned "pyramid" that second "middle" cock isn't probably "in" at all.

MackZatis wrote:

OKCTwister wrote:Any experienced pornstar like Anna de Ville / Brittany Bardot would confirm having 1-on-1 sex is less exciting & less resourceful than gangbanging 3 dicks then swallowing 3 loads same time....

Hey why don't you head over to Anna's [spam]; put words in her mouth & speak on her behalf....

Let me know how that works out for ya....

Coz I've been reading her interviews gobshite

Eloise wrote:
"human pyramid" -> exactly this shit:

This "human pyramid" made in Brazil looks much better after all!!!

Fan_of_AA_doBrasil wrote:

Eloise wrote:
"human pyramid" -> exactly this shit:

This "human pyramid" made in Brazil looks much better after all!!!

YE040.gif

And here as well: that second middle cock doesn't go in AT ALL or only halfway the TIP AT BEST.
Might as well throw in a couple of midgets or Ipads -> DOES NOT COUNT

Eloise wrote:

Fan_of_AA_doBrasil wrote:

Eloise wrote:
"human pyramid" -> exactly this shit:

This "human pyramid" made in Brazil looks much better after all!!!

YE040.gif

And here as well: that second middle cock doesn't go in AT ALL or only halfway the TIP AT BEST.
Might as well throw in a couple of midgets or Ipads -> DOES NOT COUNT

This.

So all this brings us back to the start of this topic:
How fuckin' difficult is it to get at least the basic fucking part at least on par before even going to circus positions and multiple girls scenes where the camera-man can't keep up with the action and we as viewers have to keep up with that camera-man who can't keep the fuck up in the first place?
Got a whole list of this easy quick fixable things as nice fucking objects which aren't used or used properly to it's potential or a male crew that is moaning harder than the girl and so on and so on.

HOW DIFFICULT IS IT.

Problem is, studios are not interested in making a good quality or better product. They are interested in maximum return for minimum investment. "nedelat a vydelat"

drevokocur66 wrote:Problem is, studios are not interested in making a good quality or better product. They are interested in maximum return for minimum investment. "nedelat a vydelat"

Fuckin' hate it.

viewtopic.php?f=104&t=29405#p417436

drevokocur66 wrote:Problem is, studios are not interested in making a good quality or better product. They are interested in maximum return for minimum investment. "nedelat a vydelat"

TAP isn't actually a minimum investment, is it?



Back to OP: Most girls will try to work as little as possible for the buck. Working less is for instance taking a less intense, a less deep pounding. Studs on the other side need to work more actually by not fucking deep but always retained, always caring not to get deeper than their tip or a bit more.
Now put these both tendencies into a relation and also add cameraman, who most cares for clearly visible penetrations, if he takes his job seriously.

This is why we often have 10secs only takes in basically tip-fucking mode but all graphic and very visible. Girl works least, cameraman middle, hardest its for the studs. And they are payed least!

dap-addict wrote:

drevokocur66 wrote:Problem is, studios are not interested in making a good quality or better product. They are interested in maximum return for minimum investment. "nedelat a vydelat"

TAP isn't actually a minimum investment, is it?



Back to OP: Most girls will try to work as little as possible for the buck. Working less is for instance taking a less intense, a less deep pounding. Studs on the other side need to work more actually by not fucking deep but always retained, always caring not to get deeper than their tip or a bit more.
Now put these both tendencies into a relation and also add cameraman, who most cares for clearly visible penetrations, if he takes his job seriously.

This is why we often have 10secs only takes in basically tip-fucking mode but all graphic and very visible. Girl works least, cameraman middle, hardest its for the studs. And they are payed least!

If you look at TAP, it is just three cocks, with one hidding in the shadows.

TAP is highest rate for girl, barely possible under 2k nowadays.
plus 3 studs, yep, combines fee summing up to less than the girl no matter if one of them has to fuck actually or just pretend. You still have to pay him. And he'll have to fuck before and cum after. So 3 studs needed.

Now compare this to OPs 1on1 doggy anal.
Lets take a pretty expensive girls even, she'll never cost an investment near to a cheap TAP in EU.
And stud(s) needed are 3 times cheaper because only 1 needed.

Now you have to correlate ofc that for a 1on1 you can charge not more than half of tickets you can for TAP. With both you may add wet/'pee' for a pretty small extra fee compared to sex act fee and profit will be much higher because you sell your film much better. Given the girl agrees ofc, but less and less girls turn down earning a bit more even if its not that much. Crisis starts to ring.

dap-addict wrote:TAP is highest rate for girl, barely possible under 2k nowadays.
plus 3 studs, yep, combines fee summing up to less than the girl no matter if one of them has to fuck actually or just pretend. You still have to pay him. And he'll have to fuck before and cum after. So 3 studs needed.

Now compare this to OPs 1on1 doggy anal.
Lets take a pretty expensive girls even, she'll never cost an investment near to a cheap TAP in EU.
And stud(s) needed are 3 times cheaper because only 1 needed.

Now you have to correlate ofc that for a 1on1 you can charge not more than half of tickets you can for TAP. With both you may add wet/'pee' for a pretty small extra fee compared to sex act fee and profit will be much higher because you sell your film much better. Given the girl agrees ofc, but less and less girls turn down earning a bit more even if its not that much. Crisis starts to ring.

I said it before, recession gets hot new girls doing porn and doing it nasty. I love it.

Those ca. 200$ they get for doing wet instead of dry shows it all of recent LP wet wave, yep.
Lets see when the real new talent also start pouring in in Czech and not only Russia, though.

drevokocur66 wrote:I said it before, recession gets hot new girls doing porn and doing it nasty. I love it.

So where are all the hot new girls doing nasty things?

We hit a significant worldwide recession last year with effects still lingering today. And yet i have never seen so many mediocre and unremarkable women in porn ever before.
There was pretty much only two top newbies last year that had people going crazy, Martina Smeraldi and Nata Paradise. We only got a handful of scenes with them and now it is looking very unlikely that anyone of them will return to LP again.

hjohjole wrote:

drevokocur66 wrote:I said it before, recession gets hot new girls doing porn and doing it nasty. I love it.

So where are all the hot new girls doing nasty things?

We hit a significant worldwide recession last year with effects still lingering today. And yet i have never seen so many mediocre and unremarkable women in porn ever before.
There was pretty much only two top newbies last year that had people going crazy, Martina Smeraldi and Nata Paradise. We only got a handful of scenes with them and now it is looking very unlikely that anyone of them will return to LP again.

Patience grasshopper, ther recession has yet to bite.

Eloise wrote:- take a beautiful girl
- take a fuck object like a typical "fuck me" couch and USE IT TOO instead of doing nothing with it
- put the girl in doggy and fuck her for LONGER THAN ALL THESE 10 second turns

Studios: take notes.

this eloise guy is right

Here AGAIN guys THIS IS HOW SIMPLE IT IS and mind you -> this coming from a "not hardcore site Mature"

1. Girl in a submissive position:



2. Great VISIBLE shot of the initial penetration:



3. Fuck her for WAY MUCH LONGER than those rediculous max 10 second turns:



4. Get a great view of the total beauty of the girl -> watch that outstanding figure!



5. Fuck her to orgasm and actually CAPTURE THAT FACIAL EXPRESSION DURING ORGASM:



Studios TAKE NOTES.

I agree. Especially 3 and 5.

Btw, lately some Russian scenes were not too bad on these.

How difficult is it.

Well, as you can see, it is difficult

Stumbled upon this one today.
Well... you know... this is that studio whole cruisades are fought here somewhere else on this forum and that cruisade is fought with a dedication that has a capital "D".

Meanwhile while everyone takes the piss out of this studio this scene with Sarah Cute ticks all the boxes which we all have to miss out on on this site despite numerous tips but studios just won't pick up on that.

So one more time studios - and take notes and learn:

1. Showing the initial penetration is key - the viewer can get an estimation of the dude's cock and more important: that anticipation of the girl under tension for what is coming really adds to a scene:



2. The part where he actually shoves it in - now THIS IS WHAT I CALL BALLSDEEP:



3. Our guy has been pounding away for almost a full minute here (not those LAME 5-10 second whatever the fuck that is turns) and see that facial expression when he slams it home:



4. Bird's view 30 seconds (that's right! 30 seconds! later) THIS IS WHAT I CALL BALLSDEEP:

Eloise wrote:Stumbled upon this one today.
Well... you know... this is that studio whole cruisades are fought here somewhere else on this forum and that cruisade is fought with a dedication that has a capital "D".

Meanwhile while everyone takes the piss out of this studio this scene with Sarah Cute ticks all the boxes which we all have to miss out on on this site despite numerous tips but studios just won't pick up on that.

So one more time studios - and take notes and learn:

1. Showing the initial penetration is key - the viewer can get an estimation of the dude's cock and more important: that anticipation of the girl under tension for what is coming really adds to a scene:



2. The part where he actually shoves it in - now THIS IS WHAT I CALL BALLSDEEP:



3. Our guy has been pounding away for almost a full minute here (not those LAME 5-10 second whatever the fuck that is turns) and see that facial expression when he slams it home:



4. Bird's view 30 seconds (that's right! 30 seconds! later) THIS IS WHAT I CALL BALLSDEEP:

While I do agree that LP suffers from lack of balls deep, long stroke anal fucking, PW content is absolute, unwatchable, trash. G A R B A G E.

Well I seriously took an objective look at other aspect such as

- camera work -> significantly better than most of the scenes on LP (that's right, LP) - why? Here we often see the camera panning away from the facial expressions at epic moments or in the rare case the girl is having a genuine orgasm. A total lack of knowing what he's doing with that camera in my opinion.

- image and sound quality - at least on par as in most cases excellent

- objects in the room - if there's a chair or lounging couch it's going to be used as a fucking object most of the times - here on LP there's numerous examples of that black square couch which is just perfect for doggy but only is used to piss away on the female performer.

This guy which I'm not a fan of understood that less is more.

Eloise wrote:Well I seriously took an objective look at other aspect such as

- camera work -> significantly better than most of the scenes on LP (that's right, LP) - why? Here we often see the camera panning away from the facial expressions at epic moments or in the rare case the girl is having a genuine orgasm. A total lack of knowing what he's doing with that camera in my opinion.

- image and sound quality - at least on par as in most cases excellent

- objects in the room - if there's a chair or lounging couch it's going to be used as a fucking object most of the times - here on LP there's numerous examples of that black square couch which is just perfect for doggy but only is used to piss away on the female performer.

This guy which I'm not a fan of understood that less is more.

this eloise boy hes right

I dunno,girls gotta be hot as fuck coz that 1 on 1 business is pretty vanilla unless some kinky shit is thrown in the mix