Do feet fans want a separate LP niche? or things as now?

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Do feet fans want a separate LP niche? or things as now?

Postby bdsmpretty » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:11 am

Would the feet fans be interested in a separate LP niche for just feet play, or do you only want it as part of the usual LP scenes?

I'm asking this because we regularly see 'WHY NO FEET! THIS SCENE IS A DISASTER!' posts in model's threads commenting on scenes in which the performer has really tried to put on a great show (Moscow State Circus levels of excellence in many cases), but did so wearing heels.

By way of discloure, I'm a heel fan, so on the other side of this. And though I would never comment about scenes being ruined because the model went barefoot through a scene (because it's insulting to the model), if I am budgeting credits and it's a performer I am unsure about, if she's wearing cute heels that will make me more likely to buy.
For feet fans I imagine the opposite applies. Each to their own thing.

So it made me wonder, as this scenario happens a lot, if the feet fans might be less critical of models doing scenes in heels (even though most performers mix heels on/off scenes), would they be satisfied if there was an entire LP niche dedicated to just feet play?
It seems to me a win-win. Though I could be wrong. You tell me.

For the models, pure foot play solo fetish scenes are far less trouble (and pain) than regular scenes. When they visit Prague (etc), they could perhaps fit half-hour (whatever) feet play scenes in as an optional extra, between/after they have done their regular scenes, making use of an unoccupied side studio/room.
An easy (or easier) and less stressful shoot for them, which then goes in their LP scene profile along with their regular scenes, for which they get same LP market access and guaranteed global distribution for it as all their other scenes. Because they already have a working relationship with the brand that simplifies a lot (paperwork/payment chasing).
Pay from regular scenes and foot scenes can all be paid together according to combined scene sales.

And good for LP. Content shooting will be simplified and cheaper. They could be done by girls in 'camgirl style', just leave camera/lighting rolling in a room. But with pro LP equipment/post-production the results will be far better.
Every scene sold generates a percentage for LP.
And they may also attract feet guys into discovering and buying regular LP scenes with feet content that they would not have been looking for had the feet scene not brought them here. Free promotion and increased sales.

So I thought I'd put the idea up for discussion.

Finally, this post isn't supposed to be a feet fans bashing thread, so constructive criticism best.
I admit it annoys me (a lot) when feet fans criticise great content that models have put time and trouble into making (both female and male performers) purely on the basis that there is not enough foot sole cleavage on display. Because it's insulting to their art, plain and simple.
But I do believe that everyone should be entitled to have a fetish and enjoy it without being bullied or intimidated about it.

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Re: Do feet fans want a separate LP niche? or things as now?

Postby TomHardick » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:30 am

Probably a new studio with just feet content, when the girls were always naked, is too expensive, i don't know. Anyways, i wouldn't separate the things necessarily; i'd be happy enough with more scenes like the Barefoot series from Giorgio Grandi. I love to watch a naked girl getting a DAP treatment.

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Postby avanfurwet » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:02 pm

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Thinking about the website:

I doubt whether enough pure footfetish fans frequent this site to justify catering for too much more of this niche, or making a special effort to promote it as a separate offering. But IDK, I have no sales data.

Studios know what sells for them and they have reasons for dressing their models in stockings and heels for much/most of the time.
It's good that sometimes directors (e.g. Ananas) who understand the niche can make scenes which appeal to foot fans.


Personally:

In porn and IRL I prefer women barefoot, and enjoy footjobs and sucking women's toes.
I like women in heels. Don't like stockings for some reason. Pretty much hate socks.

Also personally, I don't care for the American standard "footfetish" content where the girls wave their feet in the camera lens and wiggle their toes, or get covered in lotion. Evidently some people like it. Everyone's different. I just like the models to be barefoot as a natural part of the sex in the scene. Probably I'm weird.

I'm happy with scenes starting in lingerie and heels if the model later ends up naked. And if not, usually I won't buy the scene unless I really like the model, but that's just me. I don't cry about it.

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Postby ayrtight » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:23 pm

Absolutely YES .

But not only with DP , airtight , aiplane etc ... but also soft BG , GGG and BGG .

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Re: Do feet fans want a separate LP niche? or things as now?

Postby Phoenix2000 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:27 am

“WHY NO FEET! THIS SCENE IS A DISASTER!” - over exaggeration

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with how studios present barefeet now-a-days...my comments from the past always ask for showing barefoot soles in reverse anal cowgirl, and other positions like anal piledriver...early Gonzo/Sineplex showed this a lot....times have changed, different eras in the last 3-4 years, like holy f**k!!!!...these studios know very well what to show and how to hold off to grow anticipation for full naked women....my tastes have grown....I love seeing heels, especially when exposing as much feet/sole as possible....even when they’re slightly on, dangling in some hot position....but anyways.....I can’t wait for the resurgence from Mr. Ananas test kitchen....look out for that!

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Postby dirtporn » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:05 pm

In my opinion, i love barefeet and foot fetichism but i prefer when feet are not on the center of the entire scene.
Heels or stockings at the beginning and shoes off and barefeet during the scene for exemple (or ripped fishnets is even better).
And the must is one, two or three toe sucking acts (especially a man who takes a girl's foot to put it in other girl's mouth).
Like that, people who doesen't like foot can appreciate the great part of scene.
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Re: Do feet fans want a separate LP niche? or things as now?

Postby bdsmpretty » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:39 pm

avanfurwet wrote:.
Thinking about the website:

I doubt whether enough pure footfetish fans frequent this site to justify catering for too much more of this niche, or making a special effort to promote it as a separate offering. But IDK, I have no sales data.

Studios know what sells for them and they have reasons for dressing their models in stockings and heels for much/most of the time.
It's good that sometimes directors (e.g. Ananas) who understand the niche can make scenes which appeal to foot fans.


Personally:

In porn and IRL I prefer women barefoot, and enjoy footjobs and sucking women's toes.
I like women in heels. Don't like stockings for some reason. Pretty much hate socks.

Also personally, I don't care for the American standard "footfetish" content where the girls wave their feet in the camera lens and wiggle their toes, or get covered in lotion. Evidently some people like it. Everyone's different. I just like the models to be barefoot as a natural part of the sex in the scene. Probably I'm weird.

I'm happy with scenes starting in lingerie and heels if the model later ends up naked. And if not, usually I won't buy the scene unless I really like the model, but that's just me. I don't cry about it.


Thanks for your comment, avanfurwet.

Re bits in your post I 'bolded' (new past participle I fresly minted!).

I think you're right that the studios watch the data far more closely than we do, and can probably determine the financial merits (and lack of) of this idea instantly, without need for debate.

On top of which, our personal tastes and preferences will inevitably lead us to seek out only those facts that we think will support any case we want to make (confirmation bias).

It was more an idea to appease a portion of the LP audience, as voiced throughout forum threads.
The idea being that they would be less likely to complain re regular LP scenes not having a foot fetish element, if there was a regular supply of that content for offer alongside non-FF scenes.

It's not my thing at all, and because some models' output seems so finely tailored to serve the interests of the feet fans (Bella Grey a current example, Goldie and Lita Phoenix from the past), I end up passing it over.
Scenes that are half-on-half off seem standard, and that is probably where I am (which seems to be where you stand too).

Anyway, as solo feet scenes seem something far simpler to shoot/self-shoot while a model is at LP, and some feet fans might be satisfied with a scene like that from their favourite model (if there was nothing else feet-oriented that day among regular scenes for them), it seemed worth raising it as an idea.

But I think there is potential for LP to become more niche-oriented.

As the smaller independent studios have shown this year (they have basically kept the site alive, while LP CZ has been in enforced semi-hibernation), they may do well to be thinking of going along nichier lines once LP CZ gets back up to speed with production, in which climate they may (potentially) see their content being marginalized/displaced.
Thise niches could be anything from BDSM, to sloppy facial or wet scenes, to heels or feet, whatever.

With vaccines going global next year, and so some normality returning to life and business, those nichey routes to staying competitive may be the shape of things to come.
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Postby avanfurwet » Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:41 am

^ Good points.

Maybe smaller studios will lose sales when the larger studios can ramp up production again.

Maybe the opposite will happen, if the larger studios continue their established sausage-machine strategy, then smaller, nimbler operations can be more innovative and take more sales.

Certainly there are established producers out there selling footfetish content already, so anyone wanting to enter that market niche would have to think about how to generate traffic and take some of those sales.

Don't know how easy or practical it is to generate traffic at Pornbox for a niche studio, compared with a [spam], xvideos or [spam] operation. I guess Pornbox is a work in progress.

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Postby grey00owl » Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:14 am

avanfurwet wrote:^ Good points.

Maybe smaller studios will lose sales when the larger studios can ramp up production again.

Maybe the opposite will happen, if the larger studios continue their established sausage-machine strategy, then smaller, nimbler operations can be more innovative and take more sales.

Certainly there are established producers out there selling footfetish content already, so anyone wanting to enter that market niche would have to think about how to generate traffic and take some of those sales.

Don't know how easy or practical it is to generate traffic at Pornbox for a niche studio, compared with a [spam], xvideos or [spam] operation. I guess Pornbox is a work in progress.

As I see, there's not a huge request about this foot fetish to justify the creation of an understudio or even some dedicated series. As you say, there are other sites very specialized on this niche, by the way the old DDF had this genre in a proper series, so it doesn't make much sense to mix up with.
Better is, in my view, to stick with its proper strengths, which are hard Anal and Piss, offering both lovers, either of bare feet or high heels, the usual mixture.

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Postby ZiziMinuscule » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:38 pm

I'm a hardcore feet fan, but I don't like when feet are the main focus of the scene. What I like the most is to observe and admire feet reactions during all kinds of sex acts, from simple blowjob to massive DAP poundings.

That being said, I don't feel the need to create any separate LP feet-only-oriented studio nor the need to criticise releases where girls are wearing footwear during the whole scene. I'm happy with what the current offer.
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Postby lovepetons » Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:26 pm

TomHardick wrote:Probably a new studio with just feet content, when the girls were always naked, is too expensive, i don't know. Anyways, i wouldn't separate the things necessarily; i'd be happy enough with more scenes like the Barefoot series from Giorgio Grandi. I love to watch a naked girl getting a DAP treatment.


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Postby abaco73 » Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:28 pm

I'm an avid barefeet fan, and I have sometimes asked for more, but seems like it's difficult to make things clear, so I'd like to thank the OP for this thread.
I don't like specialized feet sites because they just pay attention to feet (massages, rubbing, easy 1 vs 1) and not fucking.
What I like it's usual LP stuff (more vs 1 anal, DP and DA fest) with ladies barefeet and time spent on full frame, including feet.
I know many of you prefer heels, lingerie and so, and I don't want to overtake anyone.
What I say is (as all of us know), most ladies shot lots of scene, being one generally quite similar to others regarding to acts, positions, and so on.
I see ladies with 5-6 DP/DA scenes (or more) and all of these with heels or lingerie on.
So, what I mainly say, considering this is a fetish for some, why directors just don't pay attention to this? If an actress already shot 3-4 scenes with heels, just shot the next barefeet. Simple as that and everyone has what he wants!

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Postby mralfxp » Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:06 pm

abaco73 wrote:I'm an avid barefeet fan, and I have sometimes asked for more, but seems like it's difficult to make things clear, so I'd like to thank the OP for this thread.
I don't like specialized feet sites because they just pay attention to feet (massages, rubbing, easy 1 vs 1) and not fucking.
What I like it's usual LP stuff (more vs 1 anal, DP and DA fest) with ladies barefeet and time spent on full frame, including feet.
I know many of you prefer heels, lingerie and so, and I don't want to overtake anyone.
What I say is (as all of us know), most ladies shot lots of scene, being one generally quite similar to others regarding to acts, positions, and so on.
I see ladies with 5-6 DP/DA scenes (or more) and all of these with heels or lingerie on.
So, what I mainly say, considering this is a fetish for some, why directors just don't pay attention to this? If an actress already shot 3-4 scenes with heels, just shot the next barefeet. Simple as that and everyone has what he wants!


This is exactly what I miss here. We don't ask for much to see from time to time some random foot wanking on the side when the girls are getting DAPed like it used to be, nice lingerie, heels and as the scene goes on progressing to barefoot. For more foot focused it could even be a short part of BTS. For me I am happy to see those DAPs, blowjobs and other guys using girls feet simultaneously. Is so hot as the focus is not just on feet. Please consider this in the future scenes. It can't make any harm.


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