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We tried and failed. We’ve had multiple polls with HUNDEREDS of votes here about anal creampie to other girls mouth gangbangs - and we’ve been left with terrible 1 girl with 1 or multiple guy scenes. We’ve had many threads to bring the old LP back with 2 girls sucking each other’s Gapes, multiple creampie to mouths (not this bullshit with 1 creampie in part 1 and a couple of facials in part 2. My solution is instead of regular facials - 1 cum in mouth then spit into gape, then fart onto face, 10 times for each scene. Use a card like GGG/666 so no cum wastage.

The only reason we are in this situation it’s too many idiots buying 1 girl scenes which makes 2/3 girl scenes less profitable. That’s why GG used to introduce 10/10 girls like Kira Thorn by getting them to suck 10 anal creampies out of a prolapsing asshole, and now we start with 1-1 by GG’s own admission because “ The market changed” and people will now buy 1-1 scenes. GG said himself that releasing a 1-1 scene then would have zero sales.

So I propose we change the market back; for the old-school 2015-2018 hardcore fans to boycott all 1 girl scenes. even 1 girl gangbang scenes boycott. Only buy scenes with multiple anal creampies to other girls mouths. That would solve the problem. Who is with me? Also if XXX is reading I can invest some money to make a few scenes. Please PM if xxx is reading.

Bullshit post.

A.bcad90210 wrote:We tried and failed. We’ve had multiple polls with HUNDEREDS of votes here about anal creampie to other girls mouth gangbangs - and we’ve been left with terrible 1 girl with 1 or multiple guy scenes. We’ve had many threads to bring the old LP back with 2 girls sucking each other’s Gapes, multiple creampie to mouths (not this bullshit with 1 creampie in part 1 and a couple of facials in part 2. My solution is instead of regular facials - 1 cum in mouth then spit into gape, then fart onto face, 10 times for each scene. Use a card like GGG/666 so no cum wastage.

The only reason we are in this situation it’s too many idiots buying 1 girl scenes which makes 2/3 girl scenes less profitable. That’s why GG used to introduce 10/10 girls like Kira Thorn by getting them to suck 10 anal creampies out of a prolapsing asshole, and now we start with 1-1 by GG’s own admission because “ The market changed” and people will now buy 1-1 scenes. GG said himself that releasing a 1-1 scene then would have zero sales.

So I propose we change the market back; for the old-school 2015-2018 hardcore fans to boycott all 1 girl scenes. even 1 girl gangbang scenes boycott. Only buy scenes with multiple anal creampies to other girls mouths. That would solve the problem. Who is with me? Also if XXX is reading I can invest some money to make a few scenes. Please PM if xxx is reading.

The only reason I would buy more than a 1 girl scene is ATOGM, which has died out along with ATM.

1 girl gangbang scenes are the only interest of this website
We should boycott your gobshite
Have fun with yourself

drevokocur66 wrote:
The only reason I would buy more than a 1 girl scene is ATOGM, which has died out along with ATM.

That’s the problem it looks like everything’s died. But actually I want to say thank you to GG scene today with Rebecca Sharon and Sarah Sgh, and another with Vicky Sol, made me think I’m back in 2016, bought it straight away. 2 anal creampie to other girls mouth 2 facials. Fair compromise - but considering how many times gg has produced only facials I think we should have had 3 creampies/1 facial. On the other gripe why cut the scene before creampie??? It was an almost perfect video until then, but doing a scene cut before creampie and the speeding up of video is really annoying.

*** only other addition would be for Sarah to have cleaned out Rebeccas Prolapse more, tongue in gape/prolapse like in Vicky sol scene.

A.bcad90210 wrote:That would solve the problem. Who is with me? Also if XXX is reading I can invest some money to make a few scenes. Please PM if xxx is reading.

Hear, hear!

Cant vote the way that is phrased and only those 2 options given, but also for me GIO 2-girl-scene today was INSTA_BUY. It was more due to Giara Sgh, though, I would actually also have bought any single girls scene DAP with her.

Eloise wrote:Bullshit post.

Agree.

Nobody has to buy anything here that they don't want.
So the bestsellers list shows what people want.

I don't particularly care about any type of girl/girl interaction. If a scene with multiple women in it is interesting, it's interesting for other reasons.

I do remain interested in the idea of investing in scenes.

Bullshit post, bullshit poll.
Just another Junior Member thinking he has something to say...

Voted for "I´m an idiot".

Competition is stiff, but this has to rank as one of the most stupid topics opened recently.

Wotan29 wrote:Just another Junior Member thinking he has something to say...

Dont be so harsh on new posters!
We all had to start at a point and its usually a POV or POI (point of interest).

Btw, I actually started with a POLL, too!
But I hope it wasn't a stupid one, it was actually pretty lively discussed than: https://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=7554&p=23911#p23911

More 1on1's means more of everything else later.

^ I hope so.

Seems that way with the new wave of Russian girls being shot by Anderson/Nikolas/Strelly.

In the (g)olden days of Sineplex and NoRest, it seems that new girls often appeared in 2-girl scenes.
Maybe less intimidating for a rookie in her 1st scene?

But of course it costs more and takes more organising to shoot a 2x2.
So maybe less risky to attempt a 1x1 for her 1st scene.

Personally I like 1x1's.

Like Wotan, in this silly BS poll I voted idiot

avanfurwet wrote:

Eloise wrote:Bullshit post.

Agree.

Nobody has to buy anything here that they don't want.
So the bestsellers list shows what people want.

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Those figures are amazing. Clearly the fact that the kind of scenes that form 90% of the output of LP form most of the bestseller list shows that these scenes are the most popular.

What none of this takes into account is that you can only visit the same well so often before you start overdrawing. This site is sometimes reminiscent of someone running a butchers shop and deciding that as steak is the best selling product they will sell fifty different cuts of steak and nothing else. Unfortunately that misses the point that though pork chops may sell less a pork chop sales is likely to be a unique sale whereas if ypu sell me ribeye I am likely buying it instead of the sirloin.
With so many one girl and multi guy scenes here I think most people end up just buying the cream of that crop. What YOU need to be comparing is the AVERAGE performance of a multi girl scene versus a many on one scene, not the bestselling dozen out of the hundreds made in a given year.

You might as well buy your stash in another shop

Why do you think there are specialty shops that sell only ice cream, waffles, coffee or sandwiches

Why should everything be Walmart

Sir Noel wrote:Those figures are amazing. Clearly the fact that the kind of scenes that form 90% of the output of LP form most of the bestseller list shows that these scenes are the most popular.

What none of this takes into account is that you can only visit the same well so often before you start overdrawing. This site is sometimes reminiscent of someone running a butchers shop and deciding that as steak is the best selling product they will sell fifty different cuts of steak and nothing else. Unfortunately that misses the point that though pork chops may sell less a pork chop sales is likely to be a unique sale whereas if ypu sell me ribeye I am likely buying it instead of the sirloin.
With so many one girl and multi guy scenes here I think most people end up just buying the cream of that crop. What YOU need to be comparing is the AVERAGE performance of a multi girl scene versus a many on one scene, not the bestselling dozen out of the hundreds made in a given year.

Agree it would be fun for us to compare average performance (sales and profits) for different types of scene.
But we don't have any data for that.
Although the studios do.

I don't know whether single girl scenes form 90% of LP studios output. Doesn't matter because it's irrelevant. People will only buy what they want.

So, if LP studios made 1000 scenes a year and only 100 were multi-girl scenes, but the customer base mostly wanted multi-girl scenes, then the top 10 best sellers would be all/mostly multi-girl scenes.

They aren't, so we can deduce that many customers actually want to buy single-girl scenes. That was all I was trying to say.

Of course studios seek to maximise profits by selling a mix of scenes to reach a wider range of customers, like any shop.
But they'll only make as many multi-girl scenes (which usually cost more to make) as they think they can profitably sell.

I don't think having two or more ladies in the scene works that well. Because you inevitably start to feel that one of the ladies is hotter than the rest. So, you want to see all of the guys gang-up on her and really nail her. And you feel a little disappointed that the lady you really like doesn't get all the attention she deserves.

And the thing about you liking one of the ladies more than the rest is that some other viewer might like a different lady this way. So, you can't please everyone, no matter which lady's bum the guys go after.

When you have two ladies in the scene, then each lady gets less action from the guys, than she would've had, if she was there by herself. Because the guys spread themselves between the two ladies, rather than just all gang-up on one of them. It's possible to have one lady as an assistant, and have all the guys gang-up on the other. But if some viewers like the assistant lady more than the other, then they are going to be disappointed that the guys didn't gang-up on the assistant lady instead.

For best hardcore, you need to have only one lady and have all the guys go after her. Because this lady is often so busy and so preoccupied with the guys inside her mouth and hands, that she doesn't even know which guys are doing her anal plow. It's like the anal guys are anonymously banging her nice ass. Which makes her look really available for the viewer too. Because this lady wouldn't even know, if the viewer stepped in and also did the anal plow.

When you are 1-on-1 with the lady, then this lady watches you and she knows what you are doing. Which can make you feel self-conscious with her, and impair your performance with her. But when the lady is so busy and so preoccupied with the guys in front of her, that she doesn't know what the guys behind her a doing, then these guys can have some real fun inside her pussy and bum.

It's like you can have uninhibited sex with the lady in this situation. Because the lady isn't watching you anymore, when you nail her. So, you can really let yourself go with her and have your way with her the way you like. This is the big attraction of many guys on one lady action. Some of the guys pre-occupy the lady's attention, which enables other guys to have their way with her the way they want.

Another attraction is that you get to see many penetrations from several different guys, rather just one guy staying inside the lady's ass all the time. Each guy has his own way of fucking. So, you get to see a lot of variation, rather than the same thing over and over again.

And it makes sense from a financial point of view too. Because the lady gets paid a lot more than the guys. So, it doesn't cost much more to have several guys nail her. But when you have two or more ladies in the scene, then this immediately increases the cost in a big way.

Increasing cost might be okay, if it also increases your revenues and your profits. And it works this way for having several guys on one lady. The lady's scene is probably more popular and makes more money, when she takes on several guys, rather than just one. But having two or more ladies in the scene doesn't necessarily make the scene more profitable compared to the cost of making it.

XXX just told the simple true, to have the possibility to release 1on1 and 2on1 DP getting at least the production cost, it increase the number of talent available for more complex scene.
Pls be aware and understand we are also in a moment with limited options, about the girls and even about the boys.

So let's call it a day on this subject now shall we?

Giorgio Grandi wrote:XXX just told the simple true, to have the possibility to release 1on1 and 2on1 DP getting at least the production cost, it increase the number of talent available for more complex scene.
Pls be aware and understand we are also in a moment with limited options, about the girls and even about the boys.

I used to follow this advice, for years, until I realized this:

Buying porn "a la carte" is kinda like buying stocks.
("kinda like" because we don't profit from porn as fans, but anyways)

You don't buy stocks from the best company of the moment,
you buy stocks from the company, that you think many more people will buy stocks from.

Meaning, you don't buy scenes from the new hottest beauty that you like,
but of the one you think, will be the most liked by the community at large, that you still, kinda like.

lol.

I'm not an expert with the stock market, been buying for almost 5 years,
but am at that point in life, where I realized how stupid I was, for not doing so as soon as I could.

Anywho,

Unless I see Neyla Smalls or Mary Rose back, I'm not gonna care about newbies, that's just me.

Eloise wrote:So let's call it a day on this subject now shall we?

Not even a subject of a discussion...I mean ''who buy 1on1 scene is an idiot.'' I stopped there. Not even need to discuss.

magizi87 wrote:

Giorgio Grandi wrote:XXX just told the simple true, to have the possibility to release 1on1 and 2on1 DP getting at least the production cost, it increase the number of talent available for more complex scene.
Pls be aware and understand we are also in a moment with limited options, about the girls and even about the boys.

I used to follow this advice, for years, until I realized this:

Buying porn "a la carte" is kinda like buying stocks.
("kinda like" because we don't profit from porn as fans, but anyways)

You don't buy stocks from the best company of the moment,
you buy stocks from the company, that you think many more people will buy stocks from.

Meaning, you don't buy scenes from the new hottest beauty that you like,
but of the one you think, will be the most liked by the community at large, that you still, kinda like.

lol.

I'm not an expert with the stock market, been buying for almost 5 years,
but am at that point in life, where I realized how stupid I was, for not doing so as soon as I could.

Anywho,

Unless I see Neyla Smalls or Mary Rose back, I'm not gonna care about newbies, that's just me.

Nothing you wrote makes any sense at all.
Unless you're venture capitalist, buying stakes in a hundred start-ups in the hope that one unicorn will pay for 99 write-offs, you're just playing lucky dip with stocks.
I would advise you to stop buying stocks, but most professional "money managers" have no clue either, so I say buy whatever you like, maybe you'll get lucky.

I think you should buy whatever porn you like with the beauties you like, newbies or not.

Newbie beauties who make porn may not come back. Many reasons.
But if not enough customers buy their scenes they surely will not get booked again.
Up to us if we hope to see them again.

Giorgio Grandi wrote:XXX just told the simple true, to have the possibility to release 1on1 and 2on1 DP getting at least the production cost, it increase the number of talent available for more complex scene.

Giorgio, OP was neither about number of studs nor porn sex acts, but number of girls in each scene. OP wants 2 or more girls every scene. Poll is useless the way its phrased, not as such.

A.bcad90210 wrote:We tried and failed. We’ve had multiple polls with HUNDEREDS of votes here about anal creampie to other girls mouth gangbangs - and we’ve been left with terrible 1 girl with 1 or multiple guy scenes. We’ve had many threads to bring the old LP back with 2 girls sucking each other’s Gapes, multiple creampie to mouths (not this bullshit with 1 creampie in part 1 and a couple of facials in part 2. My solution is instead of regular facials - 1 cum in mouth then spit into gape, then fart onto face, 10 times for each scene. Use a card like GGG/666 so no cum wastage.

The only reason we are in this situation it’s too many idiots buying 1 girl scenes which makes 2/3 girl scenes less profitable. That’s why GG used to introduce 10/10 girls like Kira Thorn by getting them to suck 10 anal creampies out of a prolapsing asshole, and now we start with 1-1 by GG’s own admission because “ The market changed” and people will now buy 1-1 scenes. GG said himself that releasing a 1-1 scene then would have zero sales.

So I propose we change the market back; for the old-school 2015-2018 hardcore fans to boycott all 1 girl scenes. even 1 girl gangbang scenes boycott. Only buy scenes with multiple anal creampies to other girls mouths. That would solve the problem. Who is with me? Also if XXX is reading I can invest some money to make a few scenes. Please PM if xxx is reading.

Spot on. At this moment it's mostly 1 girl vs 4 guys. Boring shit over and over again.

Back in the days we had 2 vs 2, 3 vs 3, 2 on 4 etc. Especially Sineplex had hot scenes with multiple gorgeous girls!

It's time to go back in the days!

101mike101 wrote:I don't think having two or more ladies in the scene works that well. Because you inevitably start to feel that one of the ladies is hotter than the rest. So, you want to see all of the guys gang-up on her and really nail her. And you feel a little disappointed that the lady you really like doesn't get all the attention she deserves.

Fully agree.
I prefer, by far, 1 girl scenes. I must be an idiot...

viewer2 wrote:

101mike101 wrote:I don't think having two or more ladies in the scene works that well. Because you inevitably start to feel that one of the ladies is hotter than the rest. So, you want to see all of the guys gang-up on her and really nail her. And you feel a little disappointed that the lady you really like doesn't get all the attention she deserves.

Fully agree.
I prefer, by far, 1 girl scenes. I must be an idiot...

No you're not.
With every incline in the amount of ladies the camera-work DEclines simultanuously.

What i like:
1 girl 1 guy
2 girls 1 guy
2 girls or more 1 guy
2 girls or more 0 guys

Why? Because i want to focus on the girl(s) and feel the fantasy of being that guy not needing to share them with someone else. That makes sense to me. But a boicot is stupid. Think and feel for your self.