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I hate the way the porn industry works with fixed patterns. why no-nonsense moron insights prevail everything's, everywhere in the world
everyone is afraid of innovations (Even if it is to combine these two different points of view)
But is this still possible for LP

Imagine LP makes movies like this

What the fuck?

Please no.

Mister Ananas wrote:What the fuck?

Please no.

hehehe why no
this is freedom of thought. Maybe the world will change if we say it without fear of voicing your dreams.
But I just want to add innovation to LP

I'm not censoring your thoughts. I just don't want to see this and have expressed that openly here. Freedom of thought goes both ways.

"Those who do not want to see exotic seas. Can't understand what it means to swim in exotic seas"
It's good to think of unusual things. Maybe one day it will happen and the strange will be wonderful

That quote is utterly meaningless.

It could be a bus filled with male actors from Gonzo or Giorgio,

enters beautiful woman, develops into a gangbang.

I mean, it's a start, swap the white room for a bus, what's the big deal?

Remove the censorship, hairy bush, women more or less naked by the end.

Doesn't have to be completely japanese style IMO, lol.

magizi87 wrote:It could be a bus filled with male actors from Gonzo or Giorgio,

enters beautiful woman, develops into a gangbang.

I mean, it's a start, swap the white room for a bus, what's the big deal?

Remove the censorship, hairy bush, women more or less naked by the end.

Doesn't have to be completely japanese style IMO, lol.

The big deal is camera work and camera angles. Now we have to keep up with a camera man that can't keep up with all the action already and moving 6 to 10 men into the back of a bus is challenging. It will turn out as a chaotic 45 minute scene where the viewer won't be able to tell what's going on lots of hairy legs blocking the view and who is who and such. Most of all I really HATE thes requests to make this site look like all those other flanker sites BangBros, Bangbus etcetera. For all that crap: GO THERE.

Like much Japanese porn, this "molester" theme is a creepy abuse/rape fantasy for weak men. Hope LP/Pornbox/Analvids/etc. never stoops this low.

But if an LP studio wants to shoot proper consensual porn in a vehicle, IMO that's fine. Doesn't have to be creepy low rent nonsense like "bangbus" or it's many imitators.

Elodie wrote:

magizi87 wrote:It could be a bus filled with male actors from Gonzo or Giorgio,

enters beautiful woman, develops into a gangbang.

I mean, it's a start, swap the white room for a bus, what's the big deal?

Remove the censorship, hairy bush, women more or less naked by the end.

Doesn't have to be completely japanese style IMO, lol.

The big deal is camera work and camera angles. Now we have to keep up with a camera man that can't keep up with all the action already and moving 6 to 10 men into the back of a bus is challenging. It will turn out as a chaotic 45 minute scene where the viewer won't be able to tell what's going on lots of hairy legs blocking the view and who is who and such. Most of all I really HATE thes requests to make this site look like all those other flanker sites BangBros, Bangbus etcetera. For all that crap: GO THERE.

I'm also concerned about the final result: I don't even like orgies in a regular studio, the more in a bus, where you have no space to shoot properly. A bus could be however a nice setting for a 1on1 up to 3on1.

MaTrAxX22 wrote:I hate the way the porn industry works with fixed patterns. why no-nonsense moron insights prevail everything's, everywhere in the world
everyone is afraid of innovations (Even if it is to combine these two different points of view)
But is this still possible for LP

Imagine LP makes movies like this

I think porn-scenes might become more interesting to watch, if porn-actors and actresses start out fully clothed. Because guys undressing the lady is a kind of strip tease, which is interesting rather than frustrating.

Traditional strip-tease doesn't work well in porn. Because it looks like the lady is denying you the sight of her pussy, tits, and ass. She is revealing them to you a lot slower than you would like. Which makes it frustrating to watch. So instead of watching the strip-tease, you reach for the fast-forward button and get past it as soon as you can.

But when guys come at the lady and start grabbing her pussy, tits, and ass. Then this isn't just a strip-tease anymore, as these guys are undressing her. They are enjoying her feel and arousing her with their foreplay. Which is something the viewers might want to do with her too, before they take her pussy and ass with their cock. This is interesting, rather than frustrating.

It's extremely unlikely, as they'd need to get hold of a bus for the set. Even outdoor scenes are incredibly rare, so this is pretty much a non-starter.

I just don't see what it adds. It's nice to get out of the studio once in a while and shoot in alternative locations, but the inside of a bus is not a great choice. It's a very cramped environment for the crew to use and would be pretty difficult to light effectively. I'm not a fan of the "molestation" theme either. First of all, it's creepy, and second of all, I don't understand this weird JAV obsession with rape, incest, tentacle monsters, etc. It's all bullshit that distracts from the action and it's really, really fucking fake anyway, so who's actually getting off to it? I think it's their way of compensating for the retarded government ban on showing uncensored genitalia in pornographic images.

avanfurwet wrote:Like much Japanese porn, this "molester" theme is a creepy abuse/rape fantasy for weak men. Hope LP/Pornbox/Analvids/etc. never stoops this low.

But if an LP studio wants to shoot proper consensual porn in a vehicle, IMO that's fine. Doesn't have to be creepy low rent nonsense like "bangbus" or it's many imitators.

From a 'western' point of view. Lets' say that Japanese porn (and eroticism) is very... peculiar...

You say this low...it depends...a lot of western adult pornstar did JAV videos, also with this thematic of ''molester on a train/bus'' (there is a category only for that...) for instance Mia Malkova. And she is a well know adult model with a lot of followers/fans.

..But this don't mean that she is ok with being molested on a train for real XD

I'm very disappointed with evil-pineapples stand.

I'm gonna draw a parallel to the act of murder,
murdering, is horrible. murdering is cowardly, murdering is wrong. etc,

but through the eyes of an artist, it can look cool, it can be a story of sacrifice and bravery, etc.

It is just a matter of making it look good, and perspective.
like... movies about murder, are the best selling movies. these movies make billions, lol.

Just because no one has made a molester movie,
that makes you think "huh, I guess it can be sexy"
doesn't mean, nobody can't do it.

It's kinda like, pissing or prolapse porn. I just don't get it, but other people do.

I'm just mind blown, when people come up to the forum
to say "wouldn't be cool if..."

and directors shoot them down without ever trying.

ugh!

Just because I don't like it doesn't mean others won't try it. I'm not trying to censor anybody and I think people should have the right to express themselves freely. If someone else produces this type of content, I will not hold them to account over it.

I'm simply saying that I personally do not see the appeal, I personally do not want to see it, and I personally will not produce it. I cannot and would not attempt to control the actions of others.

magizi87 wrote:I'm very disappointed with evil-pineapples stand.

I'm gonna draw a parallel to the act of murder,
murdering, is horrible. murdering is cowardly, murdering is wrong. etc,

but through the eyes of an artist, it can look cool, it can be a story of sacrifice and bravery, etc.

It is just a matter of making it look good, and perspective.
like... movies about murder, are the best selling movies. these movies make billions, lol.

Just because no one has made a molester movie,
that makes you think "huh, I guess it can be sexy"
doesn't mean, nobody can't do it.

It's kinda like, pissing or prolapse porn. I just don't get it, but other people do.

I'm just mind blown, when people come up to the forum
to say "wouldn't be cool if..."

and directors shoot them down without ever trying.

ugh!

Disagree. I think it's a dumb idea to make "molestation" scenes in western porn.

Just because you can do something doesn't make it a good idea. It's not rocket science. Abusing people is wrong. Exalting sex crimes is not cool or sexy.

If you make a film about the bad consequences of murder, or rape, or stalking and molesting women, IMO that's legitimate storytelling.
If you make a film glorifying such acts you risk inspiring idiots to try their luck against unwilling victims because they think it's "cool" to abuse people.

Most people watch horror movies to be horrified. But I don't think they fantasise about the ghastly events depicted on screen actually happening to them, nor that they would inflict this on others. They are voyeurs titillating themselves by watching someone else's misfortune.

Most people don't watch porn to be horrified. They watch porn to get excited. Maybe they fantasise about participating with the people in the porn they watch.

That's why some of these Japanese porn scenes seem to me so very wrong. They enact creepy immature molestation/rape sex-crime fantasies of inadequate salarymen.
People should be horrified by sex crimes, not excited to fantasise about committing sex crimes themselves.

Somehow these creepy porn fantasy genres seem to thrive in regimented, compliant, law-abiding Japanese society.
Maybe the salarymen mostly keep their guilty fantasies to themselves and don't try to act them out?

But IMO promoting these ugliest and creepiest Japanese genres of "entertainment" in the more chaotic liberal west is a very bad idea.
We already have huge societal problems with real-life abuse by idiots including domestic violence, stalking, date-rape, revenge porn, etc. etc.
We already have perps trying to blame porn in their defence, claiming their behaviour was inspired by porn and they "thought it was OK" and their victims would "enjoy it really".
Porn producers are already targets for zealous public prosecutors and religious/conservative politicians seeking to make a name for themselves.

Why would you set out to make things worse?

avanfurwet wrote:Disagree. I think it's a dumb idea to make "molestation" scenes in western porn.

Just because you can do something doesn't make it a good idea. It's not rocket science. Abusing people is wrong. Exalting sex crimes is not cool or sexy.

If you make a film about the bad consequences of murder, or rape, or stalking and molesting women, IMO that's legitimate storytelling.
If you make a film glorifying such acts you risk inspiring idiots to try their luck against unwilling victims because they think it's "cool" to abuse people.

Most people watch horror movies to be horrified. But I don't think they fantasise about the ghastly events depicted on screen actually happening to them, nor that they would inflict this on others. They are voyeurs titillating themselves by watching someone else's misfortune.

Most people don't watch porn to be horrified. They watch porn to get excited. Maybe they fantasise about participating with the people in the porn they watch.

That's why some of these Japanese porn scenes seem to me so very wrong. They enact creepy immature molestation/rape sex-crime fantasies of inadequate salarymen.
People should be horrified by sex crimes, not excited to fantasise about committing sex crimes themselves.

Somehow these creepy porn fantasy genres seem to thrive in regimented, compliant, law-abiding Japanese society.
Maybe the salarymen mostly keep their guilty fantasies to themselves and don't try to act them out?

But IMO promoting these ugliest and creepiest Japanese genres of "entertainment" in the more chaotic liberal west is a very bad idea.
We already have huge societal problems with real-life abuse by idiots including domestic violence, stalking, date-rape, revenge porn, etc. etc.
We already have perps trying to blame porn in their defence, claiming their behaviour was inspired by porn and they "thought it was OK" and their victims would "enjoy it really".
Porn producers are already targets for zealous public prosecutors and religious/conservative politicians seeking to make a name for themselves.

Why would you set out to make things worse?

You can't be serious.

How many people watch gangbang porn and actually participate or organize a gangbang....

watching an action movie, where murder is "cool" does not transforms the viewer into killers....

playing a "violent video game" does not turns people, regardless of age, into violent people...

watching actors, key word, actors, role-play ANYTHING,
doesn't make the act being portrayed any better or worse than what it is,
regardless of its nature...