No respect and no space for pussy-only ladies nowadays

[101mike101]

I found the interview, where Asa Akira is famous for saying that ass is the new pussy now. And she says in this interview that porn-fans are the ones who are now persuading hot chicks to take anal dicks.

Asa Akira said,

if you’re gonna be a really big star, you almost have to do anal now. It sucks for girls who don’t like anal, but it seems to be the reality now. Like, when I talk to fans and stuff, they’re always like, “When is she gonna do anal?” Or if I do a movie with no anal in it, they’re like “Why didn’t you do anal in this movie?” They’re, like, obsessed with it.

https://www.dailydot.com/irl/asa-akira-memoir-qanda/

What Asa Akira describes here sounds almost like sexual harassment. Because some porn-fans are so anal now, that they showing no respect and giving no space for pussy-only ladies nowadays.

I've actually seen something like this happen in another porn forum.

Some guy started a thread asking Natasha Nice to take on the anal guys. (She was pussy-only at that time.) And he was quite serious about it too. Because her urged everybody in that forum to join him in his call to make Natasha Nice an anal girl. And many guys did add their voice for this lady to take on the anal boys.

I didn't think this guy would succeed in his anal campaign. Because Natasha Nice wasn't even participating in that forum. But to my surprise, succeed he did.

Some time after that, Natasha Nice stated taking anal guys inside her sexy butt. She ended up doing 26 anal scenes and 8 DP's. Which is a substantial amount for a lady who previously wouldn't even let the anal guys mount.

Perhaps Natasha Nice didn't read that forum herself. But someone from her agency did read it and told her about it. Because it's their job to keep track of their lady's publicity and promote her among porn-fans.

Apparently, campaigning for a pussy only lady to do anal with guys works, even if you just start some thread in a forum. Ass really is the new pussy now. And you can persuade hot chicks to take anal dicks. But is it ethical to do something like that? Because you aren't even giving the lady a choice. You are just urging her to take on the anal boys.

[IndyPleco]

Bollocks. Natasha Nice was retired for several years before she made her comeback and did anal with Tushy.

It had absolutely nothing to do with this weird lobbying campaign story you’re trying to put forth.

CJ: What’s your favorite position?

Natasha: I’ve been practicing my anal lately and I think doggie is my favorite position right now. It always has been, along with missionary.

CJ: Practicing anal? You did very few anal scenes in your first go round, are you going to do more anal this time?

Natasha: I did a girl/girl anal scene with Asa Akira, it’s on both of our sites, and then a couple solo scenes, which is also on my site. Other than that, I haven’t done any anal scenes. I now have a mini-contract with Greg Lansky for Tushy.com and Blacked.com so I’m going to be doing some anal there. I’m so excited. I’m honored. I’m so honored!

https://interviews.adultdvdtalk.com/natasha-nice/amp/

[CanadianCouple]

Its a business. Girls are not forced to do anal. If they want to make more money and get more bookings and more fans, then they may chose to do anal to increase their income. If they like it too that makes it even better.

Anal sucks if you dont like it, it really sucks. Girls who hate anal and only do it for a paycheck , dont do a lot of anal scenes. Most girls who do more than a couple of anal scenes at least like it to some degree and do it in their personal life. Girls that do a ton of anal have to love it.

Plenty of porn stars in the US are doing very well without anal (Alina Lopez is one example).

Asa is right, but that quote is also from years ago when things were different. There are so many ways to make money now they dont have to rely on booking scenes with directors and companies.

[BlueShadow]

Here in Europe is the opposite... they are manipulated to don't do anal Of course always after they do anal/dp and everything possible in the first shooting with a producer
So, you speak about ethical... in EU it seems that a lot of girls that want to start porn have to give her ass in their first step in porn... in truth they are sent there by agency for that purpouse and the money. They don't even build a career. It's not the main interest of some agency, the main interest is to satisfy the client.

[dap-addict]

Bollocks.

+ 1

I'd say OP is a nice try and thought provoking for sure.
But calling asking for certain acts in porn forums unethical goes really far, actually, even not considering Nice' case. Its like saying users/customers of any service and/or product are not entitled to ask for what they would like to get produced because it fits their needs better.

Ethical production would rather be making sure during process of shooting girls can always opt out if its too much for them etc. This btw. is standard of almost all porn productions in EU and Russia, and hopefully also in US and Latin America.

[grey00owl]

It's obvious that there's a great demand for Anal by now, especially on this site, that not for nothing has specialized in this content. Anal sells. There are also Pussy fans here who always demand for DVP, but the vast majority is mainly interested in anal. I think that an only Pussy scene would never reach the fisrt positions of the sales charts. However it's not true that no-anal models have no space and get no respect here: there's a lot of scenes, mostly from OTS without any anal, for my annoyance, and nobody speaks disrespectfully about those actresses.

[101mike101]

Bollocks. Natasha Nice was retired for several years before she made her comeback and did anal with Tushy.

It had absolutely nothing to do with this weird lobbying campaign story you’re trying to put forth.

I can't say for sure what happened in Natasha Nice case. I just know that some guy started that thread urging her to do anal with guys. And then some time later, she did go anal with guys in a big way.

The thing about it all is that this pressure to do anal with guys never goes away for a pussy-only girl. Because as Asa Akira describes it, porn-fans nowadays aren't even asking if the lady will do anal. They are asking when she will do it. So, they aren't giving her any choice. It's like she must take on the anal boys.

I don't think you can say for sure that such constant pressure to do anal with guys had no influence on Natasha Nice. Perhaps one anal campaign in one forum didn't do it. But when the lady keeps hearing ass and anal all the time in her interaction with porn-fans. Then this is what creates such an anal atmosphere that ass becomes the new pussy.

Perhaps a single attempt to get a pussy-only lady to do anal with guys isn't guaranteed to work. But sexual harassment isn't just about doing it one time. It's about doing it again and again, until the lady gives in and spreads her cheeks for anal dicks.

But my main point isn't whether pressuring Natasha Nice to do anal with guys worked or not. It's fact that some guy started it and other guys joined him in urging Natasha Nice to do anal with guys. This is the kind of thing Asa Akira was talking about in her interview. It's just an example of what she said.

Asa Akira says that this kind of constant pressure for ladies to do anal with guys is working. That's why ass is the new pussy now. It's like ladies nowadays shouldn't even bother going into porn, unless they are willing to spread their cheeks for anal dicks. Because once the lady enters the porn business, then she will need to do this anyway. Or else she won't have much success in her porn career.

[BlueShadow]

You give too importance on what ''fans'' say.
BTW the best way is to be anal friendly and doing anal and vaginal regardless.

Look Adriana Chechik (among others)... I don't think she's ever heard anyone tell her when she's going to do anal LOL
In Europe some selfish producer says that doing too much anal and DP for any production the models have no future and are finished. Yep... It's not a real rule, like it's not a real rule to say that if a model doesn't do anal she can't be successful. Period.

[101mike101]

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But calling asking for certain acts in porn forums unethical goes really far, actually, even not considering Nice' case. Its like saying users/customers of any service and/or product are not entitled to ask for what they would like to get produced because it fits their needs better. ...

I didn't call it unethical. I put it as a question. Because I'm not sure about it myself.

In normal life in non-sexual situations, sexual harassment is definitely wrong. But in porn, the lady creates and maintains a sexual relationship with any fans who like her. It's a visual kind of relationship, where fans only get to watch her debauch. But sexual it is, nonetheless.

Perhaps what happens in porn for pussy-only ladies isn't really sexual harassment.

Because it's not just one guy, who is vocal and persistent in asking the chick to take anal dick. It's many guys. Her repeated anal requests happen because many guys want to see her do anal, and each guy is asking her for himself. So from a one guy's point of view, this isn't sexual harassment at all. Because you just ask the lady one time to take anal guys inside her sexy butt, and you leave it at that.

The porn-lady has a sexual relationship with many guys, practically with all the guys who have seen her porn-movies and like her. So, there is nothing improper at all about these guys talking sexually to her and about her.

When the lady has a sexual relationship with many guys, rather than just one. Then it's only inevitable that she is going to get a lot of repetition in her interaction with her guys. Repetition is inherent in her one to many relationship with her guys. So, perhaps this isn't sexual harassment at all for the pussy-only girl.

Another issue to think about is the fact that pussy-only ladies in porn almost never say a firm 'No', when asked about having anal sex with guys in an interview. So is it really sexual harassment, when the lady has said that she will do anal in the future, but she is not yet ready now? Or she might say 'maybe', without saying for sure that she will do it in the future. Or she might say that she isn't sure if she should do it or not. Which sounds like she is still deciding, and with some encouragement from her fans, she might spread her cheeks for anal riding.

A lot of pussy-only ladies encourage their fans to fantasize about their buns. And in this situation, even one guy persistently badgering the chick to take anal dick isn't necessarily sexual harassment. Because the lady is just playing mind-games with her fans. She expects them to fall for her buns. And she isn't surprised at all that some guy got addicted to her cheeks and became obsessed with her taking on the anal dicks.

I think sexual harassment happens only when the lady says a firm 'No', but guys keep asking her anyway. Which almost never happens in porn. Because almost no ladies say a firm 'No'.

So perhaps it's OK for an anal porn-fan to openly fantasize about a pussy-only lady taking on the anal guys, after she says that she will do anal in the future.

One such example is Serenity Taylor. She is pussy-only now. But she has said very recently in an interview that she will do anal in the future. Her picture and her interview, you can check out below:

https://interviews.adultdvdtalk.com/ser ... ylor-teen/

[viewer2]

Its a business. Girls are not forced to do anal. If they want to make more money and get more bookings and more fans, then they may chose to do anal to increase their income. If they like it too that makes it even better.

Anal sucks if you dont like it, it really sucks. Girls who hate anal and only do it for a paycheck , dont do a lot of anal scenes. Most girls who do more than a couple of anal scenes at least like it to some degree and do it in their personal life. Girls that do a ton of anal have to love it.

Plenty of porn stars in the US are doing very well without anal (Alina Lopez is one example).

Asa is right, but that quote is also from years ago when things were different. There are so many ways to make money now they dont have to rely on booking scenes with directors and companies.

Fully agree. Btw, I wonder how it is that in the US, pussy only is much more widely accepted than in Europe (also in the percentage of scenes released, you find much more pussy only in the States).
Anal indeed has become the norm in Europe.

[101mike101]

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Look Adriana Chechik (among others)... I don't think she's ever heard anyone tell her when she's going to do anal LOL
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Even Adriana Chechik doesn't do anal in all of her films. She has done quite a few pussy-only films too. You can check out her filmography at the link below:

http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=a ... hechik.htm

So, porn-fans can ask Adriana Chechik about her pussy-only films, why she didn't do anal in there? Such a question assumes that she should've done anal, but she didn't do it. Which is a disappointment.

This is kind of questions porn-fans were asking Asa Akira, even though she did a lot of anal with guys in many of her films. That's what she says in her interview.

So, even an anal lady can't escape porn-fans who want to see 0% pussy and all-anal between her buns.

[101mike101]

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Plenty of porn stars in the US are doing very well without anal (Alina Lopez is one example)
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Alina Lopez has been asked in an interview, if she will do anal. And she said yes. You can check it out at the link below. It's close to the end of her interview, at the bottom of the page:
https://interviews.adultdvdtalk.com/alina-lopez/

So, I'm not even sure if anal porn-fans going after her buns and asking to take anal dicks between her sexy ass-cheeks can be considered sexual harassment.

This lady has said that she will do anal for sure. So, this lady is practically teasing anal dicks with her sexy ass-cheeks, every time she takes a guy with her pussy for a cowgirl ride.

[dap-addict]

....
But calling asking for certain acts in porn forums unethical goes really far, actually, even not considering Nice' case. Its like saying users/customers of any service and/or product are not entitled to ask for what they would like to get produced because it fits their needs better. ...

I didn't call it unethical. I put it as a question. Because I'm not sure about it myself.

You OP answers to your question make it clear, think, no?

But is it ethical to do something like that? Because you aren't even giving the lady a choice. You are just urging her to take on the anal boys.

[drevokocur66]

There is plenty of respect and space for pussy only ladies, it just doesn't make money. She can do all the pussy only she wants, but people are not willing to pay for it. There is so much free porn, that you don't need to pay for it. So bottom line is, are people willing to pay/support the content? Anal, deep throat, piss and other niche products may have a smaller audience than just regular sex, but the difference is, they are willing to support the content, and that is the difference. So stop crying crocodile tears because you are not willing to do content that makes money. Go get a regular job.

[drevokocur66]

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But calling asking for certain acts in porn forums unethical goes really far, actually, even not considering Nice' case. Its like saying users/customers of any service and/or product are not entitled to ask for what they would like to get produced because it fits their needs better. ...

I didn't call it unethical. I put it as a question. Because I'm not sure about it myself.

You OP answers to your question make it clear, think, no?

But is it ethical to do something like that? Because you aren't even giving the lady a choice. You are just urging her to take on the anal boys.

She has a choice of getting a regular job.

[101mike101]

You OP answers to your question make it clear, think, no?

But is it ethical to do something like that? Because you aren't even giving the lady a choice. You are just urging her to take on the anal boys.

I said the reason why it's a question, and why I'm not sure. This isn't an answer to my question. This is the reason why I'm asking the question.

It doesn't make sense just to say that your aren't sure for no reason at all. Because if you have no reason to be unsure, then you might as well be sure. The default is to be sure, unless you have a good reason not to be.

I've thought about it some more and read some porn-star interviews online, when I've been answering other people's posts here. And now I realize that a lot of pussy-only ladies are encouraging anal guys. Because a lot of them say in their interviews that they will do anal in the future, even though they aren't yet doing it now.

So, when porn-fans are urging pussy-chicks to take anal dicks, then they are just doing what these ladies expect. And there is no disrespect. The lady might actually want to acquire a sizable anal audience of guys, who are waiting for her to take anal dicks between her cheeks, before she does it. Because she will likely have better sales and make more money, when she prepares her fans for anal between her buns.

And when fans are asking anal ladies about their pussy-films, why they didn't do anal there? Then such a fan is just showing his passion and enthusiasm for her sexy bum. He means to say that he really likes her nice ass in an anal kind of way. Which is a complement, rather than disrespect.

Porn-ladies and their fans have a special kind of relationship. Because porn-ladies are encouraging their fans to fantasize about them sexually. And porn-fans do it, because they get off on it.

When a guy organizes an anal campaign to persuade some pussy-chick take anal dick, then he might get off on just doing that, even if the lady isn't persuaded to be anally penetrated. This is called active participation. And this is something porn-fans need to do to keep their interest going. Because passive watching will eventually become boring. So, porn-ladies actually need to encourage their fans to be active like that. Or else, these fans might lose their interest in the lady's pussy and butt.

[101mike101]

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She has a choice of getting a regular job.

I don't think this is true for ladies in porn. Because there are no rules and no laws that prohibit discrimination against people based on their sexual history.

So, these ladies need to hide their past from their employers, their landlords and other such things. And when they are discovered, then they are often fired and expelled.

To avoid this kind of insecurity and potential disaster, a lot of porn ladies need to find work in something related to sex and porn. This is the only way they can feel secure and sure.

This is one of the reasons why some porn-stars and porn-studs commit suicide at the end of their porn-career. They can't perform in porn anymore. And they have no future outside of porn.

https://www.mic.com/articles/66025/porn ... here-s-why
https://therooster.com/blog/how-much-do ... our-future
https://www.breezejmu.org/opinion/porn- ... 02631.html

So, if you are in a position to help a porn-star do something else, when she or he wants to leave the porn industry, then your help would be much needed and appreciated. Because such help and opportunity is an exception rather than the rule. For most former porn-stars, there is no opportunity and no future outside of the sex industry.

[drevokocur66]

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She has a choice of getting a regular job.

I don't think this is true for ladies in porn. Because there are no rules and no laws that prohibit discrimination against people based on their sexual history.

So, these ladies need to hide their past from their employers, their landlords and other such things. And when they are discovered, then they are often fired and expelled.

To avoid this kind of insecurity and potential disaster, a lot of porn ladies need to find work in something related to sex and porn. This is the only way they can feel secure and sure.

This is one of the reasons why some porn-stars and porn-studs commit suicide at the end of their porn-career. They can't perform in porn anymore. And they have no future outside of porn.

https://www.mic.com/articles/66025/porn ... here-s-why
https://therooster.com/blog/how-much-do ... our-future
https://www.breezejmu.org/opinion/porn- ... 02631.html

So, if you are in a position to help a porn-star do something else, when she or he wants to leave the porn industry, then your help would be much needed and appreciated. Because such help and opportunity is an exception rather than the rule. For most former porn-stars, there is no opportunity and no future outside of the sex industry.

Problem is, regular job comes with regular pay and no fame benefits. If I Was hiring, I could care less if they did porn in past or not, but can they handle the normal "boring" life? Girls can continue to cam, and so can the men, the platform is there, just takes work and self discipline.

[101mike101]

Problem is, regular job comes with regular pay and no fame benefits. If I Was hiring, I could care less if they did porn in past or not, but can they handle the normal "boring" life? Girls can continue to cam, and so can the men, the platform is there, just takes work and self discipline.

The problem at most job sites is that there are many people working there and not just one. So, if you are manager at McDonald's or some place like that, then you might not have any objection against hiring a former porn-star. But some of the co-workers and the owner might disagree. And if it becomes widely known that a former porn-star works there, then you will probably get all kinds attention from people who aren't customers and who have nothing to do with this business.

So to avoid this trouble, the former porn-star gets fired, and everything goes back to the way it was before.

That's how most discrimination against former porn-stars works. You just need to have some vocal minority who doesn't like it. And they disrupt the business, until the former porn-star gets fired.

But what you say about performing sex-work on cams and other such things is true. Because it's sex-related. So, being a former porn-star is actually a plus, rather than a negative.

The problem is only when people want to leave the sex-industry and do something else unrelated to sex. Which some people need to do, either because they aren't mentally and psychologically into it anymore. Or they physically get old and aren't sexually attractive enough any more to make good money in the sex industry. Or porn-studs might lose their ability to maintain good erections for their scenes because of health reasons or something else.

[netzerkaiser]

The problem at most job sites is that there are many people working there and not just one.

The only thing I'll add there, is that a lot of these ladies end up in coffee houses & bars owned / rented by the types that are producing pornography. I know this from experience living some years ago in a town / city near Prague over 10 years ago. It was only when I returned home & was browsing internet that I recognised her in a Rosenburg AlCaporno vid (its so strange, you can identify someone by their walk so easily). There was a sexual tension between us but she spoke only Czech & my Czech was very limited, what a lovely sad eyed lady. I wish her happiness. But it probably fixated me on having an interest in pornographic history. I'd imagine if you know your stuff & if you had the money to spend a year floating around Prague or Budapest, AT THAT TIME (mid-late 00's) you'd find hundreds of these cases. 12 years on again, I'm guessing many are still there but unrecognsiable from their glory days of late 90' - 00's. This is the thing - most girls in those days, no doubt thought the video or dvd was ony ever going to be accessed by old raincoats. Nowadays they all should be aware of power of internet. What I find counters the trend is why so many beautiful or pretty young American girls choose porn, especially "rimming stuff" etc... its like, do they know what they're doing to their future? I find it a bit distressing but also a turn-on, if it makes any sense.

[Pineapples Studio]

Doing porn is a choice. Nobody is forced to do it. The same goes for any of the acts featured in porn. There are certainly incentives to do things like anal (including higher pay, more voracious bookings and fan interest, etc.), but nobody is forced to do it. The social stigma against sex workers is a real problem and a valid point for discussion, but has no relevance to your point about anal.

There is always a choice and anal is not a requirement to be successful in this industry. Don't allow your impression of this industry to get caught in "the LP bubble". Just because this place is an anal-focused community, that doesn't mean the entire industry has the same standards. There are plenty of consumers out there who can't stand it.

[101mike101]

.... What I find counters the trend is why so many beautiful or pretty young American girls choose porn, especially "rimming stuff" etc... its like, do they know what they're doing to their future? I find it a bit distressing but also a turn-on, if it makes any sense.

I've read an interview of Serenity Taylor, who is 19 and who started doing porn just 2 months ago. She just finished High School, and porn is her first full-time occupation.
https://interviews.adultdvdtalk.com/ser ... ylor-teen/

The interviewer asked her why did she decide to get into the adult industry? And she said that she likes having sex. So, she might as well do something she likes and get paid for it.

In USA, a lot of people are told to choose a line of work that they like and are passionate about. And it's natural for people to like sex, including porn-sex. Because having sex is biologically pleasant, provided that it's done well.

So logically speaking, she has good reasons for choosing to be a porn-star. And people at her age don't usually think much about their distant future, when they will be in their 40s, 50s, 60s, and so on. Because this is outside of their experience so much, that it's hard for them even to imagine it. That's why they don't think much about such distant future. It's not that they don't want to think about it. They just can't do it well, due to their lack of experience in life.

I also think it's hot that she has decided to join the porn industry and become a porn-star. Because she has a nice, big, sexy ass. And she has already said in her interview that she is going to do anal with guys. Her anal would be something to see. And eventually, she might even end up here at LegalPorno taking on the anal guys. Although, her body type doesn't seem to be popular at this website. Which I find a little hard to understand. Because she has the kind of cheeks that naturally attract anal dicks.

I suspect that she will probably end up doing a lot of interracial porn with black guys. Because she has the kind of body type that many black guys are naturally attracted too. They are the ones who can really appreciate her sexy ass-cheeks with their big dicks.

It's of course regretful that many former porn-stars end up without much of a future. But I don't blame the porn industry for this or the ladies themselves for choosing a 'bad' line of work. I blame society for treating people like this based on their sexual history. Culture, society, anti-sexuality, and double-standards. That's what I blame.

[101mike101]

Doing porn is a choice. Nobody is forced to do it. The same goes for any of the acts featured in porn. There are certainly incentives to do things like anal (including higher pay, more voracious bookings and fan interest, etc.), but nobody is forced to do it. The social stigma against sex workers is a real problem and a valid point for discussion, but has no relevance to your point about anal.

There is always a choice and anal is not a requirement to be successful in this industry. Don't allow your impression of this industry to get caught in "the LP bubble". Just because this place is an anal-focused community, that doesn't mean the entire industry has the same standards. There are plenty of consumers out there who can't stand it.

So, are you saying that it's OK anal porn-fans to go after pussy-only buns and urge pussy-chicks to take anal dicks?

This discussion is more about the behavior of porn-fans, rather than porn-stars. So, although what you say about porn-ladies having a choice is true, I don't see how this says anything about porn-fans going after pussy-only buns.

And I am not sure if I agree that ass is no longer the new pussy. Perhaps at some porn places, pussy is still pussy and ass is still ass. But this definitely isn't true at the LegalPorno website. Here ass is the new pussy, and the new ass is double-anal (DAP), as Asa Akira has said in her interview.

[netzerkaiser]

Thanks Mike, you're a good egg.

RE: the Czech thing, I figure I'll head for entire month next spring / summer PG. The summers so beautiful, the Tatra's, the towns unspoilt by WWII bombings... & you'll never know who's serving you in local delicatessan / coffee shop!

[Pineapples Studio]

So, are you saying that it's OK anal porn-fans to go after pussy-only buns and urge pussy-chicks to take anal dicks?

That depends on what you mean by "going after" them, but there is nothing wrong with asking. Harassment is always a bad thing. I think you would need to look at each request on a case-by-case basis to determine if that is happening.

And I am not sure if I agree that ass is no longer the new pussy. Perhaps at some porn places, pussy is still pussy and ass is still ass. But this definitely isn't true at the LegalPorno website. Here ass is the new pussy, and the new ass is double-anal (DAP), as Asa Akira has said in her interview.

That was my point, though. This is an anal-dedicated site. You're getting a very skewed point of view here.

[dap-addict]

a lot of these ladies end up in coffee houses & bars owned / rented by the types that are producing pornography. I know this from experience living some years ago in a town / city near Prague over 10 years ago. It was only when I returned home & was browsing internet that I recognised her in a Rosenburg AlCaporno vid (its so strange, you can identify someone by their walk so easily). There was a sexual tension between us but she spoke only Czech & my Czech was very limited, what a lovely sad eyed lady. I wish her happiness.

I think Czech society is much more open than US society. And to be honest maybe those sad eyes you remember were just the way you wanted to see it than. I say this because many porn users have an in-bread guilt culture bias against porn workers we have to get rid of first.
Walking around Prague and beyond today you may spot some ex-porn girls from time to time of course, not only in bars, but I'd rather think they just live their life as I do live mine and we all have better and worse days.
And about sad eyes I see a lot of sad eyes with married bank counter ladies for instance in Czech. Just saying.


Anyway, back to OP I honestly dont see anything bad asking the pussy only porn girls for anal, and I also see nothing bad asking the LP anal girls for DAP (or piss or both). Its my consumers interest and her AND ONLY HER to decide wheter she wants to do it or not despite all fans interest in her doing so.
Only limit I see with outspoken non-anal/non-DAP/non-wet girls - Florane Russel comes to mind or Nicole Black. Vero Leal already is playing with her fans and DAP and I actually count on her doing it in 1-2y if she's still in. Pussy only girls I dont know because they dont hit my radar, sorry. Anyway even with outspoken non-goers there are ways to ask or suggest in a nice way what you'd dream about them doing on a porn set, and pro porn girls learn to cope with that.

[netzerkaiser]

I think Czech society is much more open than US society. And to be honest maybe those sad eyes you remember were just the way you wanted to see it than. I say this because many porn users have an in-bread guilt culture bias against porn workers we have to get rid of first.

Sorry DAPAddict, it was only after I'd come from home CZ I had retospectively identified lady as porn actress... otherwise I'd have been in like Flynn, as they say (or at least tried

[dap-addict]

I understood that, netzerkaiser. Too bad you didnt ID her straight away.
Anyway, in Czech they work in bars etc after as you wrote. Its nothing special to have a porn job past. That makes Czech society so great actually. They take almost all with a distance.

[netzerkaiser]

I understood that, netzerkaiser. Too bad you didnt ID her straight away.
Anyway, in Czech they work in bars etc after as you wrote. Its nothing special to have a porn job past. That makes Czech society so great actually. They take almost all with a distance.

You're so right. A wonderful place, & friendly, like Polish people.

[dap-addict]

But in Poland porn job is still social stigma.
In Czech not, thats the difference.
In Germany also not, no problem I think. At least in Berlin. You do your job for money and than you move on.

[netzerkaiser]

But in Poland porn job is still social stigma.
In Czech not, thats the difference.
In Germany also not, no problem I think. At least in Berlin. You do your job for money and than you move on.

100% agreed. & you know the weirdest part? Hungary. Hungary post-2008 might be like Poland whereas before, was crazy as Czech. Even Slovakia was never as full on as Czech. I'm inclined to link this to the Catholic factor in Hungary, Slovakia & Poland, whereas CZ was Lutheran, & of course the communist influence in all three cannot be denied. I know Hungary better than most, if ony the Bukk / Eger / Miskolc / Salgotarian region... beautiful churches, a deep sense of historical pride against overwhelming forces... & the most gorgeous unique language imaginable. It seems like the porn thing in Hungary was borne out of necessity with post-cold war poverty far more than in Czech? You have an opinion on this brother?

PS: How these countries aren't perenially poducing cycling champs is beyond me... hilly as fuck!

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Hungary is not as catholic as you think. Its pretty half half, but in Czech religion is less important for sure.
Hungarian porn biz after 2008 did many mistakes, most they allowed fees to run berserk while girls didnt offer something that special anymore. They also ignored Russian and Ukrainian talent pool for too long. They were dwelling on fame of Golden Age 1990-2000. Prague already seemed to die as porn production place after around 2005, but than they were re-born like phoenix. They have the generosity to include Russian and Ukrainian talent pool, they are more open, more relaxed again.

Generalizing very much: Czechs know they have to work hard, Hungarians think ppl owe them something.
Applies for girls turning 18yo and considering how to earn money of course, too.

[netzerkaiser]

Thanks for kind thought out response. Catch ya later.

Cheers.

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Hungary is not as catholic as you think. Its pretty half half, but in Czech religion is less important for sure.

Absolutely. And also Czech is not Lutheran at all (to respond to the previous poster. It's rather atheistic, but never was Protestant.
Also Hungary cannot be compared to Poland religionwise.

It's a question of mentality, religion has little to do with this.

[netzerkaiser]

Hungary is not as catholic as you think. Its pretty half half, but in Czech religion is less important for sure.

Absolutely. And also Czech is not Lutheran at all (to respond to the previous poster. It's rather atheistic, but never was Protestant.
Also Hungary cannot be compared to Poland religionwise.

It's a question of mentality, religion has little to do with this.

Fair enough. But baroque Hungarian churches are plentiful & utterly beautiful. Worth a visit to country for, alone.

[viewer2]

Hungary is not as catholic as you think. Its pretty half half, but in Czech religion is less important for sure.

Absolutely. And also Czech is not Lutheran at all (to respond to the previous poster. It's rather atheistic, but never was Protestant.
Also Hungary cannot be compared to Poland religionwise.

It's a question of mentality, religion has little to do with this.

Fair enough. But baroque Hungarian churches are plentiful & utterly beautiful. Worth a visit to country for, alone.

That's for sure.
The whole country is utterly beautiful, btw. Shame that it's closed again.

[netzerkaiser]

Absolutely. And also Czech is not Lutheran at all (to respond to the previous poster. It's rather atheistic, but never was Protestant.
Also Hungary cannot be compared to Poland religionwise.

It's a question of mentality, religion has little to do with this.[/quote]

I'm really interested in what you think here, in terms of Polish vs Magyar mentality. Truth is, I love Hungary & am seeing a Polish lady... & I somehow 'categorise' her non-individual characteristics as belonging to 'eastern European Catholic'. I'm really interested in what you think. I'm back on shift in morning, so maybe some time before I get chance to respond, but would genuinely appreciate your input.

Thank you.

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It's a question of mentality, religion has little to do with this.

There is a big influence of religion in Poland and also to lesser extent in Slovakia, but not Czech and not Hungary.
But you are right, mentality is more important.
And important for our subject is porn biz history of both these centers of Europorn production. And at least in the past for Budapest important are all the transilvanian girls, note Sandra Romain, and via Transylvania current Romanian influence like Raul Cristian for instance. In Prague there are less prominent porn personas, except maybe Rosenberg. But Prague is now LP HQ and thus has boosted influence many times as compared to 2005/10.

[dap-addict]

I'm really interested in what you think here, in terms of Polish vs Magyar mentality. Truth is, I love Hungary & am seeing a Polish lady... & I somehow 'categorise' her non-individual characteristics as belonging to 'eastern European Catholic'. I'm really interested in what you think.

Difficult question. I categorize in porn terms rather, because this is the main subject here.
Lets say I want a Magyar lany and a Polish lady to dap for me. Its difficult and very demanding. Magyar girl will do all to avoid such a task but still get as much money as possible. Polish lady will reject porn altogether since it was a sin. But if I convince her still to embark on porn she will rather do her best to perform that DAP fine, because she's ambitious and has good work ethics if payment is right. Magyar lany will do DAP fine for me only if I am lucky. Might sound unfair, but thats it generalized.

[netzerkaiser]

Magyar girl will do all to avoid such a task but still get as much money as possible. Polish lady will reject porn altogether since it was a sin. But if I convince her still to embark on porn she will rather do her best to perform that DAP fine, because she's ambitious and has good work ethics if payment is right. Magyar lany will do DAP fine for me only if I am lucky. Might sound unfair, but thats it generalized.[/quote]

I think I'm with you. Thank you again. Fuck me, slavic grammar is so difficult to master - Russian is easier than Czech or Polish 'cos once you learn the cyrillic, you're sailing.

Magyar? Theres a great free course online from US foreign service insitute, that still holds value to this day.

As I'm sure you well know - when you're there.. alone.. it all helps.