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Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:06 pm
by lamboka
Dos anyone know something more? In today news there is info, that some 6 people from company Netlook are in police custody and that they have about 18 girls saying that they were forced to shoot porn (out of atound 1600 that were filmed)


Because I saw hundreds of CZC videos, I highly doubt that it is forced sex, but I am interested if someone with more behind-the-scene knowledge shares some info with us.

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:17 pm
by sarsastrid
lamboka wrote:Dos anyone know something more? In today news there is info, that some 6 people from company Netlook are in police custody and that they have about 18 girls saying that they were forced to shoot porn (out of atound 1600 that were filmed)


Because I saw hundreds of CZC videos, I highly doubt that it is forced sex, but I am interested if someone with more behind-the-scene knowledge shares some info with us.


How about posting that "info" here?

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:31 pm
by BlueShadow
https://www.seznamzpravy.cz/clanek/policie-zakrocila-v-nejvetsi-ceske-pornofirme-devet-lidi-je-ve-vazbe-112697
From the article:
"However, they did not prove anything criminal to the owner or his co-workers."

This says all.

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:37 pm
by BlueShadow
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Nothing to do with LP, but no miss chance for others gratuitous accusations.
Take note.

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:28 am
by Iddaoeeok
Something I've noticed Woodman often does is to accuse or condemn others of doing exactly what he's doing, quite a common trait with sociopaths I believe. There's something of an element of 'hiding in plain sight' about this tactic.

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 am
by Ab.cad90210
Controversial post but what’s so bad about PW? For example one of the popular threads here for years was dirty anal. PW did that with GOLDIE who was on LP first and one of the hottest ever LP girls in history.

He made her do not just dirty anal but dirty ass to mouth! It’s not fake but the real deal. Yes he’s not the most inventive but there’s no fake dubbed sound, no fake stuff and I can never critique him after that.

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:58 am
by Ab.cad90210
There’s literally no other mainstream dirty ass to mouth scene. This just happens to be with the hottest girl in porn. If anyone can please post screenshots.

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:12 pm
by BlueShadow
Ab.cad90210 wrote:Controversial post but what’s so bad about PW? For example one of the popular threads here for years was dirty anal. PW did that with GOLDIE who was on LP first and one of the hottest ever LP girls in history.

He made her do not just dirty anal but dirty ass to mouth! It’s not fake but the real deal. Yes he’s not the most inventive but there’s no fake dubbed sound, no fake stuff and I can never critique him after that.

Regarding fake dubbed sound...watch some old scenes and listen the fake slap sound... At some point he stopped to do that, was starting to become too evident, even for the most idiot members XD
But of course you speak without know.

PS
We have understood, you like shit. De gustibus.

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:53 am
by 101mike101
lamboka wrote:Dos anyone know something more? In today news there is info, that some 6 people from company Netlook are in police custody and that they have about 18 girls saying that they were forced to shoot porn (out of atound 1600 that were filmed)


Because I saw hundreds of CZC videos, I highly doubt that it is forced sex, but I am interested if someone with more behind-the-scene knowledge shares some info with us.


I've used Google Translate to read the English translation of the news article about it. And the article says,

According to verified information, the List of News received the testimony of eighteen girls who described what was actually happening at the casting. In short: they called or wrote off an advertisement that looked like a casting for models with a reward of several thousand crowns, and then they got a contract signed on the spot - but most of the girls didn't even read it properly.

The contract stated that it was a casting for porn. With the fact that non-compliance with the contract, ie refusal to shoot, can result in a large fine. According to the police, the girls were persuaded to have sex, some were said to be afraid of the unfamiliar environment and coercion, and preferred to allow themselves to be gone. According to the testimony, the cameraman also forced others physically.

During later interrogations with the police, the girls described that they felt helpless and did as the cameraman told them. Then they got several thousand on hand, and according to criminal investigators, the company then edited the record so that it looked like the girls wanted sex themselves.

When the video appeared on pornographic sites and was recognized by friends and family, some of the girls stated that they had suicidal tendencies. Others preferred to move from the Czech Republic or their city for a while, others ended up in school.
https://www.seznamzpravy.cz/clanek/poli ... zbe-112697


I found some of their videos at porntrex.com by searching for CzechCasting at this website. And it looks voluntary in these videos.

But then the article says that the agreement these ladies signed threatened them with large fines, if they didn't have sex. Which might be illegal, if that's what the agreement says. Because consent for sex can be withdrawn at any time, and a contract that says the lady can't withdraw her consent is probably against the law.

When the contract doesn't comply with the law, then this contract is null land void. Which means that the company didn't have a valid contract with these ladies for its porn-shoots with them. And this opens up a whole can of legal worms.

But then the article also says that these ladies were recognized by their friends and family in their porn videos. So, these ladies were probably under pressure to say that they didn't do this voluntarily in order to excuse themselves and preserve their friend and family relationships. So, their complaints to the police might not be entirely voluntary either. These ladies might've made up a story for their friends and family, and then their friends and families pressured them to complain to the police. And these ladies had to do to keep their stories consistent and believable for their friends and family.

There is one thing about this whole thing I don't quite understand. Because in the videos I've seen, the guy is having unprotected sex with the ladies. And it's not just any kind of sex. You can hear the slapping sounds, when this guy pounds. This guy is like a rock, and he really does these ladies with his cock.

So, these ladies must've had to get screened for HIV and other STDs before their porn shoot. This is the standard practice in porn. And if they got screened for sexually transmitted diseases, before their porn shoot, then they must've known that they were going to have sex.

This is just circumstantial evidence. But this is something I don't quite understand. It doesn't make sense that these ladies signed their contract on the spot, and then they had unprotected sex right away, without any testing or screening for sexually transmitted diseases. Perhaps this is what happened. But it doesn't make sense that neither the company, nor the ladies, nor the media appear to be concerned about this issue.

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:26 am
by BlueShadow
Apart the fact that there are many videos where the girls only do SOLO. So, it also a possibility. So... they can also do that if they don't want do sex in front of a camera. Of course for a B/G there are more money...

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:40 am
by BlueShadow
For instance this girl:https://czechcasting.com/tour/preview/czech-casting-natalie-3333/

I would have liked to see her in a hardcore scene ... but she just got undressed.
And it is the same girl that you can see on another Casting site, the one of the French producer, with the name of Natalija, from 2009... and from what he says on the forum seems instead she have done 'something' with him... and most likely she was also caught in camera without the girl knowing anything. There is nothing to see because the girl did not want, the same she has done for Czechcasting ... so ... I believe that if they really don't want to be seen while having sex in front of a camera they can....

At this point the police should investigate everywhere to find out what really happens to these casting, I speak in general. The same thing happened for MOMpov and Girlsdoporn. ...

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:04 pm
by geralt_
I think this is a good thing.

Being a porn model should be the girls' own free choice, no forcing or co-ercion. Also just because the girl looks ok and willing on camera doesn't mean she is forced to do it and maybe outright scared that she will be punished if she comes off sad on cam.

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:15 pm
by BlueShadow
https://avn.com/business/articles/legal/czech-republic-police-raid-czechcasting-offices-arrest-ten-885084.html

''Czech police said in a release. “The persons were to have precisely divided roles and an agreed division of activities.

“These included transporting women to the casting site, concluding written contracts for the performance of artistic performance, verifying the age of majority of applicants, conducting personal interviews, removing any barriers, persuading women to engage in various sexual practices, often involving themselves.''



Mmh... looks familiar.
And??
So, persuading girls to perform sexual practices is a crime? Interesting...
'cause there are a lot of videos on the net in where the girls first say no, and then... And why in those videos is voluntarily and can't be the same for the Czechcasting videos? LOL

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:11 pm
by dpconnoisseur1


Sorry @BlueShadow, this is totally off topic but I had to agree and say OMFG Natalie is gorgeous with a beautiful body :o She is the type of model that makes me InstantBuy a hardcore scene. Wow, now back to the topic!!!

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:32 am
by BlueShadow
dpconnoisseur1 wrote:


Sorry @BlueShadow, this is totally off topic but I had to agree and say OMFG Natalie is gorgeous with a beautiful body :o She is the type of model that makes me InstantBuy a hardcore scene. Wow, now back to the topic!!!

Yep. Why they didn't coerced (persuaded? Seems that for the police is the same thing...) even her (like all the other 1600)?? Fuck... :rolleyes:

*sarcasm*

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:28 am
by stevemcgee3
Wow, I like her!

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:26 pm
by BlondeBBC
Iddaoeeok wrote:Something I've noticed Woodman often does is to accuse or condemn others of doing exactly what he's doing, quite a common trait with sociopaths I believe. There's something of an element of 'hiding in plain sight' about this tactic.


Donald Trump does that all the time, and he is, just like Woodman, a 100% narcist!!!

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:32 am
by murderinc82
BlondeBBC wrote:
Iddaoeeok wrote:Something I've noticed Woodman often does is to accuse or condemn others of doing exactly what he's doing, quite a common trait with sociopaths I believe. There's something of an element of 'hiding in plain sight' about this tactic.


Donald Trump does that all the time, and he is, just like Woodman, a 100% narcist!!!

OMG! we have a winner, Orange man bad syndrome.

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:04 pm
by BlueShadow
https://www.xbiz.com/news/253574/czech-company-netlook-denies-casting-couch-content-charges

The statement, received by XBIZ this afternoon, denies the charges, alleging that “during the production and distribution of erotic material, no one from Netlook or cooperating persons has committed any illegal actions.”

The Netlook statement stresses that “each actress received an agreed financial reward for taking photos and filming,” “most of the actresses were interested in shooting more materials and participating in other erotic projects,” “everything took [place in] a professional studio” and that there were pre-scene filmed interviews with the models.

The company also claims that “the actresses had their personal belongings at their disposal, including mobile phones” and they “could call anyone at any time, tell anyone from the production [about] her disagreement, or end the photo shoot or filming immediately.”

The company contends that they have video instances of actresses stopping the shoot and being free to leave at any time, but that none of the models accusing the company before Czech authorities “disagreed” at the time of shooting.


Netlook calls its productions “fully professional, complying with all applicable laws and complying with all international standards for the production of erotic material.” The company also points out that “casting couch”-type videos “are only a small part of Netlook’s productions,” and that the scope of the business also includes activities outside of adult entertainment.

“As part of the Czech casting project, almost 2,000 videos were shot without any problem,” the statement reads, “so it makes no sense to jeopardize the entire work of Netlook and the company's name internationally by forcing a few actresses to participate in the production involuntarily. It should also be emphasized that the demand for the position of actresses was high and the interest significantly exceeded the production capacity.”

The statement concludes with the company’s conjectures about what they call “the real motivation” for the models to come forward, and citing a previous instance of police oversight over their operation.

“Several actresses have approached the police in the past,” Netlook explained, “who have repeatedly inspected the process of producing erotic material, but nothing illegal has ever been found. In one such case, the case ended up in court, where in the first instance there was a final immunity from criminal liability in full, because the court did not find anything illegal about the method of the production of erotic material.”

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:08 am
by 101mike101
BlueShadow wrote:https://www.xbiz.com/news/253574/czech-company-netlook-denies-casting-couch-content-charges

The statement, received by XBIZ this afternoon, denies the charges, alleging that “during the production and distribution of erotic material, no one from Netlook or cooperating persons has committed any illegal actions.” ....

The accusing ladies say that they were persuaded to sign a contract which they didn't fully read and understand. And then this contract was used to threaten them with large fines, if they didn't have sex with the guy for their porn scenes. That's why they did it.

The company says that they didn't do anything illegal. But this is something for the court to decide. The contract itself might not comply with the law. Which would make the contract null and void and open up the company and its workers to all kinds of legal liabilities.

There is a saying that you don't know the truth, until you hear both sides. But in this case, hearing both sides isn't enough, you also need to read the agreement these ladies signed and the laws that are applicable to such agreements.

Re: Czechcasting police raid

PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:43 am
by BlueShadow
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