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This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:26 am
by headhunterbastard24
so is this page serious ? Do you really pay $30 for a membership that doesn’t allow you to do anything other than pay for to watch every scene

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:36 am
by David92506
I hear you!

Today I joined DDF Network via a review site and was directed to this site.
On the review site, it says there are 13 sites that come with the subscription. Where are they?
It claims there are over 15,000 scenes. On this site, there are under 8,000 scenes
And I didn't get the advertised discount price.
I asked for a refund but they won't give it.
Curse this site and curse the review site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:57 am
by ExtremePornFan
1893 free scenes

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:58 am
by ExtremePornFan
sorry I think there is more that just what I have not viewed

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:08 am
by avanfurwet
Pornbox 2020-03-16.jpg

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:10 am
by avanfurwet
I'm not a member of any DDF package so IDK if the >18,500 scenes showing in my Pornbox is the same as theirs.

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:51 pm
by Giorgio Grandi
headhunterbastard24 wrote:so is this page serious ? Do you really pay $30 for a membership that doesn’t allow you to do anything other than pay for to watch every scene


membership website killed the porn industry all over the years, without to share with performers nothing but a little % of profit, bringing the industry to a point where talents are less and less and where good talents do not even perform for anything else then their own channels on Of and MV (where you buy content for insane price, even more expensive that LP).
you can not pretend to pay 30$ membership for a website with $50k monthly budget for the updates and the same money for a website with $200k
In few words, a Ferrari 812 do not cost as a Ford 150

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:39 pm
by Evil_Del
I love when people create multiple accounts and start to talk to themselves to make their thread live :D

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:24 pm
by Jocke
Thank you Giorgio for the clear speak. I was assuming the same but wasn't certain.

I don't mind paying a fair price for my porn and LP produce content you cannot get on subscription sites (yet). I like the idea that I contribute to people who makes my life nicer.

I have seen some other attempts at creating pay per scene sites but which doesn't have unique content and I expect them to fail. Content quality and directors listening to feedback is key.

Keep up the good work!

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:12 pm
by xxx
David92506 wrote:I hear you!

Today I joined DDF Network via a review site and was directed to this site.
On the review site, it says there are 13 sites that come with the subscription. Where are they?
It claims there are over 15,000 scenes. On this site, there are under 8,000 scenes
And I didn't get the advertised discount price.
I asked for a refund but they won't give it.
Curse this site and curse the review site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The 15 DDF sites are all included in Porn World. The missing scenes are old ones that will be added soon under a "DDF Archive" studio.

This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:24 pm
by Alexxx
Please clarify to me. I wanted to buy membership on the site of DDFNetwork, but as I see it now works under the Pornworld brand and redirects to Pornbox.
At Pornbox, you can buy full access to Pornword Studios for 1, 3, or 12 months.
Explain:
1) Does it include unlimited downloading of all videos on the site or only online viewing?
2) Not all videos have been transferred yet. Will absolutely everything that was before be transferred to DDF? Will I have access to new videos during my membership?
3) Do I need to be a member of LegalPorno to buy membership in Pornbox?
4) Where is it best to buy membership: on the DDF website, on the Pornworld website or directly from Pornbox?

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:27 pm
by xxx
1) Does it include unlimited downloading of all videos on the site or only online viewing?

The Porn World membership is a traditional membership with full access to watch and download. It gives you access to the entire catalog as well as new scenes as long as you are a member. On the other hand, if you buy PornWorld or other scenes in PornBox individually or in packages (pay-per-scene), they remain accessible indefinitely.


2) Not all videos have been transferred yet. Will absolutely everything that was before be transferred to DDF? Will I have access to new videos during my membership?

Yes we are moving everything. Only some old scenes are left there but are being transferred. We found out that even on the old DDF site a bunch of links were broken...


3) Do I need to be a member of LegalPorno to buy membership in Pornbox?

No you don't. LP doesn't even have "Legalporno exclusive" memberships. You can buy the LP scenes with tickets, preferably (including ticket memberships). Those tickets can be used to buy any scene in Porn Box, including DDF/PW scenes. Porn Box is a general clip store. Expect to see way more scenes there in the near future.

When you buy a Porn World membership. You can access the content from your individual Porn Box LIBRARY. Porn Box also has a store to buy more scenes if you wish but you are not obligated to use it. You can just browse your personal library and ignore the other parts of the site.


4) Where is it best to buy membership: on the DDF website, on the Pornworld website or directly from Pornbox?

They are identical.

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:31 am
by davebowman
Giorgio Grandi wrote:
headhunterbastard24 wrote:so is this page serious ? Do you really pay $30 for a membership that doesn’t allow you to do anything other than pay for to watch every scene


membership website killed the porn industry all over the years...


I have to wonder though - if this is truly the case, how come so many other sites still seem to happily survive on the old monthly membership model? Brazzers, Evil Angel, Tushy, Drilled, XEmpire, Jules Jordan, True Anal, Analised, 21 Sextury etc etc - how do all these other sites mange it?

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:52 am
by avanfurwet
davebowman wrote:I have to wonder though - if this is truly the case, how come so many other sites still seem to happily survive on the old monthly membership model? Brazzers, Evil Angel, Tushy, Drilled, XEmpire, Jules Jordan, True Anal, Analised, 21 Sextury etc etc - how do all these other sites mange it?

Hard to move members off the old model?
Members resistant to pay-per-view in this era of "free-to-view" tube sites?
Easy to collect $30 per month recurring memberships that people can't/won't cancel?
Possibility slowly to reduce costs (frequency and quality of updates) while continuing to collect same monthly income?

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:13 pm
by Giorgio Grandi
davebowman wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:
headhunterbastard24 wrote:so is this page serious ? Do you really pay $30 for a membership that doesn’t allow you to do anything other than pay for to watch every scene


membership website killed the porn industry all over the years...


I have to wonder though - if this is truly the case, how come so many other sites still seem to happily survive on the old monthly membership model? Brazzers, Evil Angel, Tushy, Drilled, XEmpire, Jules Jordan, True Anal, Analised, 21 Sextury etc etc - how do all these other sites mange it?


You did not read all I wrote:
"membership website killed the porn industry all over the years, without to share with performers nothing but a little % of profit, bringing the industry to a point where talents are less and less and where good talents do not even perform for anything else then their own channels on Of and MV (where you buy content for insane price, even more expensive that LP)."

Several website turned in clip store, at least partially (kink.com for example). I know more are planning to go in this direction. Even tubes sells separated scenes giving a cut to the producers. Modelhub, xvideo red
Remember many website use very aggressive strategy using cross-sales, sometime even ridiculously aggressive. This bring maybe 20-30% more profit on the top of regular sales.
I know at least a couple of the websites you names are going through a difficult period, lack of cash. When you see an american website start shooting more and more in Europe, means something doesnt work anymore as it was working before. Euro girls do not sell in USA market as americans.

Small websites are in terrible crisis, take FAQ for instance, their contents are for sale as not exclusive content and even intentionally uploaded on tubes (full scenes)

than the cost of content, take for example 21sex: a week of their updates cost probably as one single day on LP

The adult industry doesnt have enough performer to fulfil the demand of content, because in general the payout for female performer is too low and there is no volume of scenes as before.

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:00 pm
by avanfurwet
Giorgio Grandi wrote:You did not read all I wrote:
"membership website killed the porn industry all over the years, without to share with performers nothing but a little % of profit, bringing the industry to a point where talents are less and less and where good talents do not even perform for anything else then their own channels on Of and MV (where you buy content for insane price, even more expensive that LP)."

Several website turned in clip store, at least partially (kink.com for example). I know more are planning to go in this direction. Even tubes sells separated scenes giving a cut to the producers. Modelhub, xvideo red
Remember many website use very aggressive strategy using cross-sales, sometime even ridiculously aggressive. This bring maybe 20-30% more profit on the top of regular sales.
I know at least a couple of the websites you names are going through a difficult period, lack of cash. When you see an american website start shooting more and more in Europe, means something doesnt work anymore as it was working before. Euro girls do not sell in USA market as americans.

Small websites are in terrible crisis, take FAQ for instance, their contents are for sale as not exclusive content and even intentionally uploaded on tubes (full scenes)

than the cost of content, take for example 21sex: a week of their updates cost probably as one single day on LP

The adult industry doesnt have enough performer to fulfil the demand of content, because in general the payout for female performer is too low and there is no volume of scenes as before.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:08 pm
by robinluca13
Are all videos included with the pornworld subscribtion or only a few? If not everything is included, is there some kind of subscribtion model for the other studios as well?

Re: This website has gotten ridiculous

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:19 pm
by xxx
robinluca13 wrote:Are all videos included with the pornworld subscribtion or only a few? If not everything is included, is there some kind of subscribtion model for the other studios as well?

Everything is included but the scenes are not permanently saved in Pornbox like with PPS.