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American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:38 am
by analaficionado
As sort of a fun topic, what do you all like about the American models and the European models and what don't you like? Which are your favorite to see performing?

For example, I like that the European women are way more open to filthier sex than the American models. That means deeper, harder anal and more over the top kind of stuff that's super great to watch. On the other hand though, I don't like the European aesthetic. The girls look like old school Lara Croft, pointy, while the American girls are definitely curvy, with huge asses. I also like that American girls are a little more diverse, whereas the European girls tend blend in a little bit. Honestly I think can only tell some of Russian girls apart by their gapes and not their faces :p Overall I like the European work ethic :p but I'll always love an American ass!

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:37 am
by avanfurwet
Why does it matter where a model comes from? It's just porn. You like who you like.

And both Europe and America are big enough talent pools to contain every kind of model.

Plus, do you discriminate between North and South America? What about Asian girls? Australian girls? etc.

The possibilities are endless. Thankfully. :D

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:30 am
by Jocke
Which European model is filthier than Anastasia Rose? Objectively I cannot find any differences. The US models do great piss scenes too when they come to Europe.

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:18 pm
by Iddaoeeok
European.

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:24 am
by wmazo
Definitely European or anything non-American. Most tend to have natural bodies, natural tits, and less tats.

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:18 am
by kinlan
European more rough style lovers, American girls more vanilla style. But you can find some real porn industry "diamonds" in USA like Kendra Lust or Rose Monroe ;)

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:34 am
by dap-addict
Jocke wrote:Which European model is filthier than Anastasia Rose? Objectively I cannot find any differences.

The difference is European models do all that much faster.
Why wait 5 years for a DAP, if you can have it within 5 porn scenes, or even at once?

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:58 pm
by Moxoxo
dap-addict wrote:
Jocke wrote:Which European model is filthier than Anastasia Rose? Objectively I cannot find any differences.

The difference is European models do all that much faster.
Why wait 5 years for a DAP, if you can have it within 5 porn scenes, or even at once?

And then get lost because it don't sell. A slow start is always better, but not my business ;)

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:59 pm
by magizi877
I prefer Euro girls because subjectively, they are prettier.

BUT,

if I take into account things like performance, kink and charisma, latinas all the way, xD

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:23 pm
by bkmsegagodi
For me European
Since I have been watching LP content, it has taught me about how Euro women are so sexy and gorgeous. And most Euro women are very submissive.

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:39 pm
by PrinceOfGapes
It's interesting a couple of years ago I would have said hands down European. But now some of my favourite performers are american like Anna De Ville, Charlotte Sartre, Lydia Black, ... . I always thought that American girls couldn't perform as intense scenes, or couldn't gape as well as european models. I am very glad to have been proven wrong.

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:43 pm
by PrinceOfGapes
Just to add to my previous post, I think both are great these days.

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:22 am
by mydirtydigs151
I'm a straight white guy.
I find something in all nationalities and cultures appealing; If I find a woman attractive, she's attractive...to me; regardless of what she looks like to others or where she's from.
Sometimes the not-so-specials from both side of the ocean can be personal bombshells, even if they never do the hardest of acts.
* or in contrast: Legend and Hall of Famer Annette Haven, regardless of how gorgeous she was...never did the real nasty stuff..so she wasn't even close to my favourite.
I have no bigotries to my porn consumption. I'm not partial to just blondes or brunettes etc...though I do seem to prefer petite women in general.
I don't watch gay or trans-porn (but am not bothered by them).
I don't have any particular fetishes or fixations needed in porn, some visualizations and acts are obviously personally more exciting and attractive.
I do collect and have something of everything from all around the world. From vanilla to some B&D and even a little S&M.
Bi-sexual women turn me on....I don't watch enough Lesbian porn.
Though there are exceptions...I tend towards natural bodies and looks. The only time I find glam 'appealing' is in porn. But that's part of the costuming (which I could do without).
I don't get the whole nails and shoe fixation/fetish in porn (or real life) though. So impractical to real-life and comes off as high maintenance to me.
There generally is a different feel, both emotionally and visually between modern Americana and Europa's porn and both have their appeal.

So.....Legalporno aside:

Based on what I consume as porn these days:

- Africana/Black-American: I have types that I find sexy and appealing. I enjoy the contrast and the pink. I like a reversed double-stuffed oreo cookie.
* Wish there were more really-dark, black girls in porn...translates to good contrast in photos. I like Black on Black vids as well.
Not my go to porn, but I've always searched it out regularly.

- Americana: Women tend to be more vocally encouraging, which adds to the edge. Yes, vocals can sometimes go overboard, but the raunchier vids tend to have a bit more energy vs. modern Euro with the same content.
* Generally, I find the American women becoming less submissive and more engaged and sexually open in the scenes. Censorship laws have retarded American sexual expression for a long time and it can show through over compensation.
America is due for more Afro-american women in porn to balance out the BBC on little white chicks trends, but it also provides a decent racial diversity across the board.
Though I don't have tattoos....The suicide Girl look appeals my punk and slightly kinky/alt side.
Getting too old for the school-girl fantasy now, but I'm a dirty old man.
Enjoying the Milf movement and the recent influx of women with diverse ethnic mixed-backgrounds.

- Asia Far-east/south: I like a good asian cowgirl. Can get my fix from US-Asians. Wish my fav JAV starlets would work with western men or released all uncensored content lol.
* I find JAV/Thai etc anal and dp's to have a certain naughty-taboo feel to them.

- Asia South: Wish there were more Indian/Pakistani. Skin tone, luxurious black hair, pink. The most rare and exotic in porn; especially when it comes to hardcore.
* They can be exceptionally attractive, even when not the prettiest.

- Aussie: I enjoy Abbywinters etc,. Find their naturalistic ways, hairy pussies and nudism 'refreshing' and accessible in feeling and context.
* Good for the girlfriend bringing over her girlfriend for a 3some fantasy.

- British/UK: Close to home...wish there was more appealing content around these days.
* I enjoy fish & chips and a strong, high-test, dark-malted brew. I eat the lemon after I finish the meal.
Whychwood brewery produces some fine flavours and I like their theme elements.
Any woman who likes the legendary music and ambience of Hawkwind, has a special place in my heart.

- Canadian: I'm a Canuck, so I always check out our beavers and am of course a little more excited about them to begin with....Adds to accessibility fantasy.
* Wish that we produced more homegrown and strange brews. Strangely, Canada is/was the porn hub of the world.....I really liked the original Doghouse days; they were really on to something.
You know you watch too much smut, when the vocals in curling stand-out in a porn kind of way.

- Europa: I find to be a more 'sensual' visual fantasy (regardless of acts or raunch level), and provides my foreign/slightly exotic fix (reminding me of my desire to travel and to learn other languages).
* Generally, euro-porn is less big-dickcentric, which I also find grounding. I do enjoy the female's euro-submissiveness that tends to be portrayed, but wish there was more involvement and vocalizations.
Euro 'teenagers' have more of a nymph appeal than american, but American 'teenagers' evoke a more 'accessible' fantasy.
However, Europa's 'ugly-ducklings' can often have the most sexual prowess and euro-girls need to be reminded of their naturally raw beauty.
Enjoying the euro-Milf movement.

- Francais: The French have always made appealing and stimulating porn. Quebecois also has their gems. I wish porn visually showed more of the female La peitie-mort and contractions.
* I don't seem to mind condoms in porn from France (they bother me in US content), that says a lot to its appeal.

- Mexicana: Eye-catchers...The best middle-of-the-road body types and exotic sex appeal; seemingly mixing asian bodies with the middle-east/Indian look. Dirty talk in spanish is sexy.
* Hispanics tend to have a certain skin-tone the kind of fit-but-fleshy body-type and pussy/mons/perineum I really find visually appealing. I like spice.

- Middle-East: What can I say? .... Beurettes are the bomb! I tend to keep an eye open for these exotic dishes. Hijab porn has its naughty appeal.

- Nordic: A different feeling and fantasy for me from regular euro. Caters to my ancient viking bloodline. Make better camgirls.

- Russian block: It would behoove me to learn Russian (and its strangely dyslectic cyrilics).
* Russian porn has always been attractive and appealing. I little extra kudos if there's seemingly mongolian/exoticness mixed in.
The Teencore and early Sineplex days were exceptional. Kudos to early Private video mags.
Probably makes up the majority of the one-hit wonder diversity in my library over the years.

- South Americana: Tan-lines, perky titties, clits that poke out. usually vocal...what's not appealing. Beach volley-ball anyone?

- I watch my share of (general) 'interracial' porn made up of all mixings.

***Any genetic diversity, that adds to any nationality's exoticness is somehow more attractive, regardless if 'pretty/beautiful' or not.


So strictly speaking of Modern (standard but raunchy) DP material that I personally like:
- I pay way more attention to the woman's face and expressions now than I used to. This will make or break a scene.
* So I suppose: the woman's (genuine) pleasure expression and release, is what I'm looking for now, compared to than 30 years ago when I was far more objectifying the sex act alone and less fantasy oriented.

Regardless of who or where the content is from...I usually find the vids where the starlet is doing more work to get herself and the guy(s) off to be the most appealing.
- Women who play with their clits, nipples, tits and guides the stud's cock in and has endurance while straddling cowgirl.... all add to my experience.

Males with gusto and women who genuinely express pleasure in giving and receiving are always the most effective, regardless of how vanilla/smutty the scene or looks of the models.
- So I suppose I consume more modern Americana(s) because of this; The "Classic" Private, Euro-raunch etc., were like that. They come off as more raw; the women tend to fuck and suck back and vocally/physically express more... so I have more personal content (There is also far more available to choose from).
- Obviously, my favourite euro scenes are just as exciting to me, but the fantasy gets translated from a sensual desire, into sexuality.

I kind of think that in many ways: the two distinctive styles between Euro and Americana has flipped (yet mixed here and there) over the last 30some years.
It definitely was different when there was no internet, when only tapes and dvds could be rented or bought.


P.S.
*There was more of a distinction pre and early 2000's when it came to levels of raunch and look to the video;

- Things changed once censorship laws got updated here, and it started to even out as far as: finger insertion, spanking the female, anal, DP and smutty porn goes.
- Teeny Exzesse, Magma, C17, DBM Video, Private etc., became my (under-the-counter) go to from Europe...Videos with fisting in them especially caught my eye.
* And I loved the dark hair and bushes of the euro-wenches (which looked great in all that bubblegum-neon jazzercise gear).
- I found early U.S. content to have a bad-girl thing about it and Euro's content took Swedish Erotica to the next level of raunch in style and looks; even if sometimes a little more teeny/bubblegum.
- There was WAY more crossed-over leg dp's performed on both sides of the pond. The true classic dp position now under-utilized!
- And also more 'finishing the job' money shots (especially euro-content). I like it when the girl jerks the cock all over her face and the wantonness and appreciative acceptance it portrays.
* By doing so....It also ixnayed any element of degradation issues.

.........And then Evil Empire took off.
Generally, I traveled between Private, Ana/Diabolic and Evil Empire type content: back when I peddled porn and sold dildos for a wage at a shop; and made a clear distinction between the genres to my patrons.
- Private had been revolutionizing the visualization and genre (dp) porn, in a clean, classy and refined manner, but still hard and raunchy in format. Perhaps translating to be more female friendly. Also.... Kudos to Dorcel.
- Empire was revolutionizing gonzo, taking Euro-raunch, Americanizing and improving it. The American 90s-00s was probably the biggest change in smut and started to overtake Euro-raunch.
If more Euro material had been available, I would have consumed it just as much.....then along came Sineplex which was another complimentary flavour/genre of anal/dp porn.

If I were to compare what flavours I find appealing, it's easier to use magazines styles from yesteryear that I liked to compare:
- Americana is Hustler/Oui/Penthouse
- Europa is Highsociety/Swank/Private
Whatever showed pink, and/or went just a littler harder/kinkier....I was attracted to.
Typically, euro content had more 'mature' looking models (many seemed to be milfs), which is still appealing.
Shaved pussies were rare(r) in porn and therefor added a little extra kink. Today, a bush can do the same thing.

In a nut-shell....I like both Europa and Americana content relatively equally.
They provide complimentary content and shouldn't try to compete against each-other.
Whoever advances their camera technology and picture quality, tends to have the upper-hand in visual stimulation though.

But to ask me to compare who I like better is an impossible task.
I will note: It seems people (at least from this forum) from the Europas, come off as far more bigoted and bias against the N. Americas than we are of Europa content.
Perhaps it just cultural diversity differences,
But I'm kind of over the female submissive only part of modern Euro-porn. I think enjoying a healthy mix of a female prowess and submissiveness is a good balance.
I have no desire or ego need to personally just be a Top.
I want to see a woman fuck and not just be fucked.

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Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:06 pm
by meher.malekshahi
European.
Why?
All the American girls just can't shut up during a scene.
It's all the same text.
Oh my God
Oh my Goddd
Oh my GODDD
I love the way your cock feels in my ass
It feels GOOD
It feels SOOO GOODDD
Oowwwhh that is deep
That's DEEP
That is SO DEEPPPP (appearently hitting the sigmoid colon how the fuck should I know)
And so on and so on and so on...
Totally fed up with this vocal shit recurring in every scene the do.

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:45 pm
by Lotto
American are hotter. European are more extreme. So I watch models of both groups who are attractive and nasty.

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:11 pm
by maurice070
I prefer European girls. Most of them are more natural, slim and fit compared to American girls who are most likely are on fastfood diets...

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:16 pm
by Object_O
Used to worship Euro pornstars back in the 2010s, but today 2020 admittedly US actresses rule in terms of performance
The only few Euro pornstars that match epic CZ legends (like Lucy Lee, Julie Silver, Janet Alfano, Melisa Black, Jennifer Dark, etc.) are milfs (Cathy Heaven, Sindy Rose, Brittany Bardot, Vicky Sol, Jolee Love, Blanche B, ...)
The young ones are boring to watch or your eyes see them but your mind forget the scene the instant you close the player
Nelly Kent sounded promising but then her DP shootings suddenly turned very rare
As of today only models like Lauren Philips, Angela White, the newbie Febby imprint a vivid image of their proactive performance on your mind
I say that based on a long-term perspective performance-wise

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:47 am
by dap-addict
Object_O wrote:The only few Euro pornstars that match epic CZ legends (like Lucy Lee, Julie Silver, Janet Alfano, Melisa Black, Jennifer Dark, etc.) are milfs (Cathy Heaven, Sindy Rose, Brittany Bardot, Vicky Sol, Jolee Love, Blanche B, ...)

Looks you are as nostalgic for Czech Golden Age 2000-5 as I am! :)
Could you elaborate that bit?
Who today in performance reminds you of Melisa Black?
Who of Janet Alfano?
Who of Julie Silver?
And who of Lucy Lee?

Personally I find some younger Russian and Ukrainian LP girls close to Lucy Lee actually, more than some LP MILFs - in terms of performance I mean, not appearance.
Nicole Black for instance.

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:39 pm
by Object_O
You are right regarding Nicole Black she could be one of them legends. She lies on par with Kira Thorn and the reason I didn't voice them up is probably due to a personality thing: might be they don't have some of the aforementioned Milf's charisma. Milfs tend to be chatty like US models and I like that... Now if you are deep into Jennifer Dark, you'll notice she babbles gibberish stuffs on scenes to the point a female US producer amicably told her to cut the crap. She kept vocalizing nonsensical stuffs like: "I'll break your dicks and munch them like mashed potatoes..." dunno if she was high while shooting but I found that alluring coz I thought she probably really meant it and bet she would very likely do it if we was in some other multiverse

Megan Venturi has a deep effect on me. So do Mina and Sara Bell
These chicks fuck like Nymphos and that calls for tremendous admiration for they are passionate about their gig

What I deliberately skipped in my previous post, so as not to mess with producers, is: the likely reasons behind's the 2005-2010 golden era were resource-based:
stakeholders from agencies to directors like Raul Christian had the unique skillset and know-how to push the models to the extreme
It's the story of having all the right people at the right time and hence it's reasonable to conclude replicating such a perfect planet alignment is a tough one

Re: American Models vs European Models

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:08 pm
by geralt_
A mix is the best. There's room for all sorts of models.