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When the majority of the models had curves, some actually had bubble butts, some were even PAWG's.

Now 90% are skinny girls, which as much as they are beautiful they are just not as hot as a luscious pawg, like Syren or Kristy, who are simply made for anal.

More PAWG's, more Bubble Butts please!

Me too, time when we had opportunity to see models like Shione Cooper, Carol Wings, Lucie Wilde or Suzie Sun. Good old days.

Models with a body that looks like teenage boys is a massive turn off

Object_O wrote:Models with a body that looks like teenage boys is a massive turn off

this 100%

Object_O wrote:Models with a body that looks like teenage boys is a massive turn off

+1

Totally agree!

Object_O wrote:Models with a body that looks like teenage boys is a massive turn off

Exactly!

More real women, less teenage girls!

I would like to see aletta ocean in LP. Aletta ocean BBC dap is a brilliant idea.

As much as I'd like to see it, I kinda doubt Legal Porno could afford Aletta Ocean.

davebowman wrote:As much as I'd like to see it, I kinda doubt Legal Porno could afford Aletta Ocean.

maybe. But she definitely suits your definition.

Aletta ocean is all plastic, thx but no thx!

I'd love to see more content with likes of Mandy Muse, Candice Dare, and maybe get back Lisey Sweet, she became even thicker recently.

not in the milf theme involved.....sorry boys, but my big onturn is to see how a young tiny girl is able to put the cocks inside....not the question how many cocks hve streched the milf holes before porn....

JosephMerrick wrote:When the majority of the models had curves, some actually had bubble butts, some were even PAWG's.

Now 90% are skinny girls, which as much as they are beautiful they are just not as hot as a luscious pawg, like Syren or Kristy, who are simply made for anal.

More PAWG's, more Bubble Butts please!

Couldn't agree more except I don't believe LP is listening. The are curvy women who are favs on here and it comes down to presentation and the personality of the ones they pick. Oh well...I will continue to ration my purchases so I can spend on and support the curvy models. The old GG scenes had quite a few.

caped.crusader wrote:

davebowman wrote:As much as I'd like to see it, I kinda doubt Legal Porno could afford Aletta Ocean.

maybe. But she definitely suits your definition.

Sorry. It wasn't your definition

JosephMerrick wrote:Aletta ocean is all plastic, thx but no thx!

I'd love to see more content with likes of Mandy Muse, Candice Dare, and maybe get back Lisey Sweet, she became even thicker recently.

Yeah you have got a point.

We want more big natural Boobs like suzie sun. I cancel my premium account because all girls are skinny with little Boobs...

Curvy models are not receiving as much support as slim ones.

YES, more curvy girls!
LOL to the "body of a teenage boy" line....
Sure I love big breasts, and I don't discriminate natural or augmented. But I don't have ANY issue with small even tiny breasts if the girl is curvy in the hips, butt & thigh area! Seriously have been steady frustrated for like the past 3 months when checking daily releases here at LP (Say for the few really true gems that have come out; prob. 15 out of say 3 months x 30 days x 2 studios (That I mainly care about) = 180 . So approx 180 but I'll round down to 150, so 150/15=10% a whopping 10% (favorably speaking)).
I know ultimately the $$$ makes final decision on what gets the O.K. and what gets the "NO GO" but to XXX's last post; OK so curvy aren't getting as much support as skinny, I'd buy that, I browse the model threads, and all super skinny models who are rather/quite new in their LP career's have multiple pages already. Meaning people are posting about them way more often & frequently than all\most others. But to say that the support $ wise (meaning spent in total despite method of purchase) for skinny is 80% (5:1) more that spent on curvy is hard to believe to me. Roughly off the top of my head it seems to be 5 skinny model releases to 1 curvy (if that). And when I'm saying curvy I'm not talking strictly girls like Alex Black, Angel Wicky ect. I'm thinking along the lines of the likes of; Natasha Nice, Luna Star, Billie Star, Isabella Clark & Larger/Curvier than that.
That's almost double the amount. Now I don't have any concrete numbers for revenue or sales or anything, this is just strictly my observation & trying be objective & fair with the estimated numbers. I'd love to be able to see scene sale numbers and do a bit of number crunching (I'm on disability for a broken arm right now and have a ton of time on hand)
Lately here at LegalPorno it seems that recent trends go almost all the way to one side of the spectrum and be damned to rest. Which ultimately is flawed science, too many variables, not enough controls. If all that's put out is one body type/theme/series, people will spend on it eventually even if not originally interested. People will get impatient, buy something that's "best/better" of what's being released as long as it's just a tiny bit more close to their personal taste. I'd assume that members here at LP have made it here for the most part from long time porn interests/viewing, as time goes by you need something more & more to keep your "attention". So it's difficult to watch anything less than/inferior/weaker to LP style porn & stay engaged. People for the most part feel like if they're being charged a monthly fee, that they need to get something out of it that month (Yes I know tickets don't disappear or get taken back). So the same could go for the opposite, if 80% or more of releases were of curvy models, people who aren't really that interested in them would eventually spend on them if that's the overwhelming majority of whats being produced/released simply because they need/want new LP porn! Because let's face it, nothing else come close to LegalPorno. There are others that are decent to good, but typically they're majorly lacking in one aspect or more, and the quality isn't there (camera work, lighting, set design, style/makeup, editing, ect ect).
OK OK I'm getting off my soap box, but I'm leaving on one last insight of mine.
I do realize that you can't please everyone at once, but you can please everyone!
PEACE

The more you think about it you start seeing pieces of the puzzle falling into place
I always knew there was something fishy about the new downward trend LP is nose diving through
It all began with the overabundance of models without female sexual characteristics: no thighs, no boobs, no hips, typical of prepuberty boys
then there is this 0-pussy scenes that to me clearly translates this aversion of anything female-like: conception, vaginal / clitoridean organisms, vaginal gapes, to name a few...
and now the advent of Transexual men reiforces points 1 and 2: men taking it up the ass with their dicks dangling up and down.
There's finally a loose connection with the so-called "extreme" (for in effect there's nothing more meek and soft than drinking sea water) act that is pissing a category widely prominent in gay porn.
LegalPorno 2015 vs LegalPorno 2019... two different things... totally contrasting studios

Object_O wrote:The more you think about it you start seeing pieces of the puzzle falling into place
I always knew there was something fishy about the new downward trend LP is nose diving through
It all began with the overabundance of models without female sexual characteristics: no thighs, no boobs, no hips, typical of prepuberty boys
then there is this 0-pussy scenes that to me clearly translates this aversion of anything female-like: conception, vaginal / clitoridean organisms, vaginal gapes, to name a few...
and now the advent of Transexual men reiforces points 1 and 2: men taking it up the ass with their dicks dangling up and down.
There's finally a loose connection with the so-called "extreme" (for in effect there's nothing more meek and soft than drinking sea water) act that is pissing a category widely prominent in gay porn.
LegalPorno 2015 vs LegalPorno 2019... two different things... totally contrasting studios

And why is that? No one is preventing people who like curves to buy these scenes. We still introduce them once in a while. It's fallacious to say that there is less produced therefore there is less support. We are talking about a support per scene not overall. And there are less because they get maybe half of the sales of thin models. Studios know that when they shoot a curvy model they will very likely end up with a straight loss of $$$.

For example this one is amazing in my opinion yet we shot the scene at a loss : https://pornbox.com/application#watch-page/62448

I'm gonna give her more scenes purely because I like curves myself and I think she deserves more. But unless the support for her scenes increases she's not gonna have too many more.

Imo the eastern European curvy girls don't have the same type of body as the American ones. Their bodies don't have the same firmness and curves in the right places. There are a few exceptions, like Marina Visconti and Blanche Bradburry, but mostly they tend to look a bit softer and saggier.

Your link brings us to the best scenes of December....are you referring to Taylee Wood?
By the way, she seems to be your exclusive model!
MY support for her is ON!!!

She didn’t sell well?

She’s 41/184 on that list and only Jessica and Lana Bunny’s debuts rank higher on that list as far as I can tell.

Are sales that bad?

xxx wrote:For example this one is amazing in my opinion yet we shot the scene at a loss : https://pornbox.com/application#watch-page/62448

I'm gonna give her more scenes purely because I like curves myself and I think she deserves more. But unless the support for her scenes increases she's not gonna have too many more.

I have a hunch and believe it's a good one: that porn industry is no different from fashion industry
The industry being ruled, shaped and directed by a bunch of elites who fancy 1m80 anorexic models
Ergo; them getting > 1m80, < 45kg women parading on the runway make them trendmakers and subsequently market makers
Consequently, they control and induce the sales they desire
If those elites whims and wishes shifted to curvalicious beauties, they undoubtedly would influence sales on these new criteria
If LP featured more models with healthy Body Mass Index I would bet a million customers' affinity would converge towards this novel offer trend

Object_O wrote:Models with a body that looks like teenage boys is a massive turn off

Absolute agreement. But it's not just LP, it's the whole business. Skinny flat girls everywhere.

Object_O wrote:Models with a body that looks like teenage boys is a massive turn off

Especially when they have a dick.

Well, we want variation don't we? We also want different scenes for different tastes.

I myself want to see the range from small tit Megan Venturi to curvy Taylee Wood. I bought the scene linked to, to test out.

However this thread and the conspiracy theories about everything turning gay is just ridiculous. Sure I know you don't like trans content, but to claim there is nothing else is just wrong. Grow up!

For sure, variety is the best, otherwise everything ends up feeling the same.

xxx wrote:I'm gonna give her more scenes purely because I like curves myself and I think she deserves more. But unless the support for her scenes increases she's not gonna have too many more.

On a more general note, I do hope that producers aren't too hasty on judging new girls on sales from one scene only. I know it's a business, so obviously you don't want to rebook girls who aren't selling, but when I choose to buy a scene there are multiple factors involved - not just 'is the girl hot'. I've only got x amount of time and money, so I may be trying to pick from between a dozen promising looking scenes, and it could be something really small I see in the trailer that tips my final decision on which one to actually spend tickets on: do I like the outfit, does the girl keep her shoes on, is there a piledriver position, does it end with a facial or an internal cumshot etc. So if I don't buy a girl in her first scene, I could still end up going for her in a second scene, if the style of the whole thing is more to my tastes.

Same here!
Since I have this wet addiction it took a long time for me to discover Kristy Black. Now I want to buy her non wet content too.

I don't only want to buy wet content, but I don't want to miss any either and then my tickets are gone! I have already done two 120 refills. Damn you LP, you are breaking my budget, lol!

xxx wrote:For example this one is amazing in my opinion yet we shot the scene at a loss : https://pornbox.com/application#watch-page/62448

I'm gonna give her more scenes purely because I like curves myself and I think she deserves more. But unless the support for her scenes increases she's not gonna have too many more.

Add quality wet content, it will have support.

Object_O wrote:I have a hunch and believe it's a good one: that porn industry is no different from fashion industry
The industry being ruled, shaped and directed by a bunch of elites who fancy 1m80 anorexic models
Ergo; them getting > 1m80, < 45kg women parading on the runway make them trendmakers and subsequently market makers
Consequently, they control and induce the sales they desire
If those elites whims and wishes shifted to curvalicious beauties, they undoubtedly would influence sales on these new criteria
If LP featured more models with healthy Body Mass Index I would bet a million customers' affinity would converge towards this novel offer trend

LOL wtf are you on about, man? Elites? What elites? Jesus, you'll be blaming George Soros next for the lack of girls with big boobs on LP, what a joke!

Iddaoeeok wrote:

Object_O wrote:I have a hunch and believe it's a good one: that porn industry is no different from fashion industry
The industry being ruled, shaped and directed by a bunch of elites who fancy 1m80 anorexic models
Ergo; them getting > 1m80, < 45kg women parading on the runway make them trendmakers and subsequently market makers
Consequently, they control and induce the sales they desire
If those elites whims and wishes shifted to curvalicious beauties, they undoubtedly would influence sales on these new criteria
If LP featured more models with healthy Body Mass Index I would bet a million customers' affinity would converge towards this novel offer trend

LOL wtf are you on about, man? Elites? What elites? Jesus, you'll be blaming George Soros next for the lack of girls with big boobs on LP, what a joke!

No. You are the joke!
The fashion industry has already been prosecuted by the WHO, Spanish, French and UK governments to ensure BMI of models is above 18
But its okay to be a troglodyte

Object_O wrote:No. You are the joke!
The fashion industry has already been prosecuted by the WHO, Spanish, French and UK governments to ensure BMI of models is above 18
But its okay to be a troglodyte

Congratulations on being able to spell troglodyte, you didn't answer my question, what elites?

Iddaoeeok wrote:

Object_O wrote:No. You are the joke!
The fashion industry has already been prosecuted by the WHO, Spanish, French and UK governments to ensure BMI of models is above 18
But its okay to be a troglodyte

Congratulations on being able to spell troglodyte, you didn't answer my question, what elites?

The exasperating kind just like in the movie The devil wears prada
Its only when they are invited to speak out on the media you realize how they are disconnected to reality faced by lay people

+100 for bubble butts!

It's A very interesting post. I think there are several reasons why curvy girls sell less, three in particular

First: the LP consumers. A good part of them only like women with teenage bodies. They don´t like women with curves nor women with big natural tits nor women with big saggy tits nor women with big butt nor tall women from 60 to 70 kg of weight nor chubby women nor fat women nor obese women nor women with stretch marks postpartum and a long et cetera. In summary: they don't like most women, only a specific part, includes skinny, slim, extreme thin and anorexic.

Second: many of the girls with curves in LP are rookies or little experience in extreme anal sex. It is very difficult that a new little experienced girl to sell. If you don't offer her the opportunity to continue. How do you expect that roockie girl to make scenes with better sales?

Third (and my apologies if I insist on this): In LP the curvy and chubby girls appears much more frequently with her torso covered than the skinny girls. Look at the scenes of Carol Wings and Katlein ria in Gonzo, the scenes of Angel Wicky, Proxy Paige, Syren De Mer in GIO or more recently the scenes of the new girls with curves in IV. If you cover (censor) her breasts, belly and butt, sexual attributes of curvy women, her scenes will sell less. A curvy girl with torso completely naked sell more that with torso covered. If a girl with curves has to wear clothes, just norma tights or similar and high heels. Nothing of stockings with garter belt, the garter belt covers the beautiful butt and belly of many girls with curves, ruining the scene, nothing of a stupid skirt that covers her belly and corset, bra or other only during the intro; removes this clothes before the action.

The issue that says curvy girls sell less is not a robust statement
Just show me the evidence: statistics that prove such a statement
To begin I'd like to know how LP generates categorical variables Curvy vs not curvy and how they manage to extract these sales metrics
Data mining is my everyday job and I would love to analyse that

Object_O wrote:The issue that says curvy girls sell less is not a robust statement
Just show me the evidence: statistics that prove such a statement
To begin I'd like to know how LP generates categorical variables Curvy vs not curvy and how they manage to extract these sales metrics
Data mining is my everyday job and I would love to analyse that

They don’t have to prove anything to you. If you don’t believe xxx when he says he likes curvy models so he gives them a chance now and then, but it still needs to make business sense, then that’s your problem and yours alone.

JosephMerrick wrote:Exactly!

More real women, less teenage girls!

I've got news for you, teenage girls are very popular in porn, not just on LP. Not my personal preference you understand.

IndyPleco wrote:

Object_O wrote:The issue that says curvy girls sell less is not a robust statement
Just show me the evidence: statistics that prove such a statement
To begin I'd like to know how LP generates categorical variables Curvy vs not curvy and how they manage to extract these sales metrics
Data mining is my everyday job and I would love to analyse that

They don’t have to prove anything to you. If you don’t believe xxx when he says he likes curvy models so he gives them a chance now and then, but it still needs to make business sense, then that’s your problem and yours alone.

Dude if you cannot deal with rational argumentation and criticism STFU who the fk are you LP's lawyer