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This poll is inspired by Belle Claire and her recent post retirement fans interview she posted on Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKEaOnTc0rs
part 1, minute 10.55ff Belle talks openly about a known fact hidden by lots of porn studios: Many girls doing porn have actually quite violent sex fantasies, which however are not shot by todays porn studios anymore. In the 1990ies such more fake forced sex scenarios were widely shot in the US and in Italy for instance, also Private used to shoot such fantasies, but than it stopped in a move to make porn more mainstream early new Millennium.

Instigated by that fans interview of one of the most welknown Europorn girls of new generation I wonder whether maybe time would be ready to go back to a few scenes in that fake forced mood?

Its clear of course that all is just prior to the porn shot agreed upon by consenting adults and the girl(s) involved always have a safe word to stop the scene at any moment when it gets too much for them. Also setting would be like in 1990ties US films that first girl resists of course, but later she enjoys whats done to her because secretly she wanted it anyway.
Ideally such new LP videos would have a 15-20secs pre-trailer stressing that forcing girls to sex is one of the most hideous crimes that needs to be punished most severely.
Also it needs to be said that LP founder philosophy is voluntary hot anal hardcore porn only, no fake forced stuff and very little bdsm. It thus would mean a LP philosophy change.


from Belle Claire's model thread:

Wotan29 wrote:

dap-addict wrote:Some main quotes of part 1:
- effect for private life? - I discovered i like anal. And it didnt effect my health at all.
- I did just what I liked to do, all I did I did because I liked it. (...but some things are not possible.)- I am a very romantic person.
- I am shy and I am stubborn. I never do anything I dont won't to do and there is no way of making me to do such a thing I dont want to do.

Most hard aspect:
Crazy fans requests, fans calling me a 'whore' or 'dirty'.
Thats actually what a lot of us more frequent posters say here all the time: Show these ladies your respect!

There's a very interesting part in about middle of that part 1 when asked about her sexual fantasies she didnt have time to enact in porn, Belle is confession she has very violent sex fantasies, really much stronger than the hardest hardcore she ever did. She says she doesn't wanna talk in detail about those fantasies, but they were still there, even though she didnt want that stuff to happen in RL.
Its a really intriguing part for all those who watched her manhandle BTS @ GIO for instance. It reaches out to a level usually denied because of a PC self-control of porn, also in EU.

In my opinion the word "fake" in the poll question is a bit misleading. As you pointed out, everything in a scene has to be consensual and to be agreed on before the scene - and the girl has always a safeword to stop the scene. But if a girl is into it and even enjoys very rough treatment, I wouldn´t call it "fake" forced. I don´t want to see obviously faked stuff, in the best case it´s real - and if the girl likes it I even like it more.

Apart from that, the poll result so far speaks a clear language...

Reduced polling to 10 days.
I think its enough to give a good picture.

Wotan29 wrote:In my opinion the word "fake" in the poll question is a bit misleading. As you pointed out, everything in a scene has to be consensual and to be agreed on before the scene - and the girl has always a safeword to stop the scene. But if a girl is into it and even enjoys very rough treatment, I wouldn´t call it "fake" forced. I don´t want to see obviously faked stuff, in the best case it´s real - and if the girl likes it I even like it more.

Apart from that, the poll result so far speaks a clear language...

I think you misunderstood me.
And I hope you are the only one!

It has to be fake forced of course as forced sex is the most hideous crime against women - and needs to get punished most severely.
What would be depicted in these new LP films would be fake forced sex of course, but not more fake as all porn is compared to RL.

Wotan29 wrote:Apart from that, the poll result so far speaks a clear language...

Result is even clearer now.
Which shows that additional explanation or faked and forced was needed.

I've not voted as I'm not quite sure where my view fits.

I like the intensity of rougher scenes, but if the acting is such that they give the impression that the woman isn't truly consenting to what is happening then I feel uncomfortable/turned off. Watching the trailer of the Belle Claire scene mentioned that looks fine, but a scene where she was say walking down a street and then grabbed to look like she was being raped I would definitely not be into.

Ultra-Gape wrote:I've not voted as I'm not quite sure where my view fits.

I like the intensity of rougher scenes, but if the acting is such that they give the impression that the woman isn't truly consenting to what is happening then I feel uncomfortable/turned off. Watching the trailer of the Belle Claire scene mentioned that looks fine, but a scene where she was say walking down a street and then grabbed to look like she was being raped I would definitely not be into.

I would love to see fantasy forced sex movies, but even though I like this sort of media,
which is under represented in live action porn, but there is plenty in other forms of porn.
if the scene is too realistic looking, it would make me feel "uncomfortable/turned off" as Ultra-Gape puts it.

I think the best way to produce this sort of movie. would be to sprinkle some realistic looking elements,
mixed with a lot of role-playing "fun" elements, but without overpowering
the normal gonzo style sex scene.

Like, in the end, it still has to be mostly about the sex, but with some situational context to make it erotic.
If it's just a "situation" it shouldn't require much dialogue, if any at all, this would keep the scene simple in the gonzo way.

I agree with magizi.
Especially some Italian films of even the early 2000 were over-realistic and thus not watchable at all, at least for me.
There should be a pretty fast jump to make clear the girl is actually enjoying the attack, it has to be playful and very clear so from the start.

At 39 still a bit little votes.
Thanks for casting you vote, anyway!

Can we try to get 10 more votes, please!
I mean result so far is very clear.
Not much controversy really either, so times have changed obviously and time is right for a new LP product.

Still about 1,5h to vote!
Please do so!
Indication of the voting sample is very clear, though!

FWIW, I voted no.

Also in the minority here. It makes me uncomfortable and turned off, even knowing it's fake.

Angel and Yum, did you listen to Belle Claire's interview?
She just is open enough to talk about it, that sets her apart.
Rest depends on way its enacted and filmed of course.

I have not, to be honest. I’ll try to have a listen tonight.
Not sure it will change my point of view, but you never know.