POLL: Would you buy condom only LP scenes in future?

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Would you buy condom only LP scenes of your fave porn girls in the future?

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Never ever!
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Maybe 1 to 4 scenes per month, but my LP shopping would go down rapidly.
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Yes of course, I would buy as much scenes as I do now when performed bareback.
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Postby dap-addict » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:55 pm

Poll question is very actual since after that Nacho HIV craze some LP girls start asking for condom only porn production in the future.
Some even have treated leaving LP and setting up an own condom only website.

Thus let me ask: Would you buy condom only LP scenes of your fave porn girls in the future?
I ask about your fave girls to sweeten that hard and quite sad question I guess.
Imagine you really care a lot for her, you may be even in porn-"love" with her.

Polling options:
Never ever!
Maybe 1 to 4 scenes per month, but my LP shopping would go down rapidly.
Yes of course, I would buy as much scenes as I do now when performed bareback.

1 option.
Poll runs till March 13th, the earliest possible end of Nacho HIV craze inflicted EU porn production shutdown.

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Amber Cute in her 1st LP anal scene @ sz537 (condom altert!).

Now here I can easily vote this time: Me, Never ever!
I have actually 52 LP scenes of my porn-"love" Kira Thorn and if LP decided to shoot her condom only in the future I would buy none of her future DAPs. I'd enjoy the 51 LP DAPs I already have with her. Same for other girls. I'd give LP some time to reflect, 2-3mt and than cancel my subscription. It would be a very sad day but I would do it without a 2nd thought. :(

This I do write well aware of all controversy and also aware that I always lobby a lot with users to become compassionate for those porn girls doing all these scenes for us.
Also I am aware in 2014 I did support a gonzo call for condom only 1st anal scenes in order to catch girls for flus fledged bareback harder scenes later.
Just 1 reason why I think condomized porn isn't the right way and why I won't support it ever: I just read that one of my past porn-"loves" goes to Paris next few days during EU wide porn production shutdown and offers private meetings there. I do hope all is clear. Its also clear in Nacho's case that HIV didnt come from porn but his private risky sex. Condoms are no sense at all in this way, and apart from this economized sex kills all joy of watching it. I might re-train my mind, but as long as they escort still its really no sense. Just just me...
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Postby Homo*_*Eroticus » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:02 pm

dap-addict wrote:Poll question is very actual since after that Nacho HIV craze some LP girls start asking for condom only porn production in the future.
Some even have treated leaving LP and setting up an own condom only website.

It would be interesting to hear what the directors think about this insane situation .... by the way, Nacho was a minor performer in LP(just 20 scenes) and worked only for GONZO studio!!! :cool:

dap-addict wrote: I just read that one of my past porn-"loves" goes to Paris next few days during EU wide porn production shutdown and offers private meetings there. I do hope all is clear. Its also clear in Nacho's case that HIV didnt come from porn but his private risky sex. Condoms are no sense at all in this way, and apart from this economized sex kills all joy of watching it. I might re-train my mind, but as long as they escort still its really no sense. Just me...

I'm sure that the LP team is smart enough to manage properly these collateral activities by the girls..... ;)
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Postby captcrunch28 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:20 pm

I would not consume condom scenes. When I find a favorite star I try to find all her DP scenes (that's what I'm into) but I am somewhat dissapointed when I find those scenes and a condom is involved.

The reason is that porn is about fantasy. It is not common for 2-4 guys to fuck a hot girl casually, that is why it's a fantasy, and that is why we like it. No one fantasizes about putting on a condom before having sex with a hot woman.

I just checked, and I have purchased 1,300 scenes from this site. If LP went for condoms, I would switch to other sites that do not. If the whole industry switched to condoms, I would probably just stick to my personal library and re-live the "good=ol' days" of porn"

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Postby blublubeacha » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:04 pm

during this hiv crisis yes. after that no

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Postby Cynewulf30 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:29 pm

No. Use better testing and blacklist performers who Escort.

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Postby tekaneo » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:30 pm

And the girls are...?

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Postby YumYum74 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:05 pm

Cynewulf30 wrote:No. Use better testing and blacklist performers who Escort.


A lot of girls (majority) do escorting.

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Postby drevokocur66 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:13 pm

Why would I spend money on that? Not just LP, but any porn site.
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Postby Dudemeister » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:13 pm

No way, can't watch it. Dorcel is unwatchable because of the condoms, even though I like most of the girls and outfis.
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Postby blublubeacha » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:30 pm

without a condom is always better. sexy female rectum wrapped around hard cock without condom is the best feeling in the world.

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Postby Object_O » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:08 pm

Zero risk is an utopia. There is an insignicant risk with any means of protection
Condoms on porn scenes do break at times
Good use of PCR has proved efficient by shielding the industry for decades
Plastic porn is a lobby promoted by dipshits (especially French and Brazilian studio)
Studios like Dorcel, J&M, Woodman Casting produce garbage porn owing to that piece of cold insipid rubber

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Postby Ultra-Gape » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:46 pm

I voted 'Never ever' as it's closest to my thoughts.

If in a few years all new porn made by all producers used condoms then I would probably buy it. Whilst I have a choice between scenes with condoms and scenes without, I will exclusively buy those without. Possibly I should feel differently but being honest I know this is what I'll do.

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Postby Angel Eyes » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:06 pm

I'd like to think I was a 'maybe' but, being honest with myself, the true answer is 'never'.
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Postby lubor » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:35 pm

What we are talking about? Things are very simple. Porn industry cannot survive without the money. We are consumers and we are paying this money! Do you know anyone, who is not buying videos because there are not condoms? I do not know anyone. How many people you know, who is not buying videos because of condoms? 99% of my friends, who are real porn fans. This is the answer! Sex with condoms is not porn. This is not a question about attitude.This is a question about taste. As consumer if you want to drink whisky, you will not buy the milk! You know milk is not a whisky. If you want to watch real porn you will not buy the educational material of safe sex. Real porn fans are supporting industry with their own money. It is very easy to say - I have no problems with condoms ... but not to buy videos. This is most important. Condoms will lead porn industry to bankruptcy! Everybody has rights to use condoms. No questions! The only question is about the choice. If someone is afraid to fuck without condoms, what he or she is doing in porn industry? Porn always will be risky occupation. This is a wrong opinion that fans will not have a choice if condoms becomes mandatory. We have our old collections. We can buy porn everywhere. I am ready to buy porn even at Africa if this stuff will be condom-free.

But... our stars are more courageous than someone thinks.

Porn star Jessica Darlin after HIV scare in 1998:
"I don't like condoms. I never have. I admit I will not use a condom until they become absolutely mandatory, and even then I would probably just quit. I love bareback sex, and I got into the business knowing the risk. I have always been willing to take the good with the bad. I got into this business because until lately there record regarding HIV was close to perfect. I believe that the fans are smarter than the industry gives them credit for being. The fans know that unprotected sex is a death sentence in today's society. We aren't immortal. We are fantasy. If we weren't providing fantasy a lot more cases of rape and AIDS would pop up due to sexual frustration. Sex can be fun, but sex can be dangerous. A lot of things are both of those things. If we stopped doing everything that was dangerous our lives wouldn't be worth living."

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/casey-calvert/why-i-dont-want-condoms-a-porn-performers-perspective_b_5425635.html

Casey Calvert 2014. "... Right now I very rarely use a condom at work. If the company requires it (which some do), or if my scene partner would prefer it, I don't argue. But let me make it very clear that I prefer shooting without them ... "
" ..The scenes filmed under the requirements of A.B. 1576 will simply not be as good as the scenes we film now, and the porn audience is extraordinarily particular. There is very little loyalty. If they aren't completely satisfied with the product, they will go somewhere else. They don't want condoms, and they do not want lackluster scenes ... "
"...Just like stunt workers or professional athletes, we risk our health for the purpose of entertainment..."

http://www.stripperwriter.com/elle-xmag-bonnie-rotten-interview.htm

Bonnie Rotten 2015. "Here’s the thing, people are always going to shoot without condoms. They are. They’ll find away to do it. We all test. If you’re clean when you go to set, you don’t need a condom. Nobody likes condoms. Me as a performer? I hate them. Nobody LIKES condoms. When you work with certain condom-companies, it’s very uncomfortable. You’re doing anal, you’re doing DP, and the condoms are irritating to the skin. On top of that, what does a condom really do? Tell us that you don’t have to be tested or clean? Just throw a condom on a jump in the scene? It’s basically saying to us that we aren’t responsible; if the condom breaks, there’s an STD. Besides, the guy has to pull the condom off to cum on your face. That defeats the purpose anyway."


Cherie Deville 2016. "„The real thing is everyone knows the dangers of unprotected sex. We take those risks every time we go to work.”
„I can’t think of a job that has no risks at all. Even someone with a desk job can get carpal tunnel syndrome or cervical spine issues. I accept the risks of this job. I would like the government to respect that I am allowed to do as I chose with my body.”
„We use our bodies to bring joy and entertainment to the viewer!"

We always had courageous stars. Real heroes! It does not matter, where they will work! STDs and condoms will never win. Never!

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Postby pornlover_holland » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:37 pm

lubor wrote:What we are talking about? Things are very simple. Porn industry cannot survive without the money. We are consumers and we are paying this money! Do you know anyone, who is not buying videos because there are not condoms? I do not know anyone. How many people you know, who is not buying videos because of condoms? 99% of my friends, who are real porn fans. This is the answer! Sex with condoms is not porn. This is not a question about attitude.This is a question about taste. As consumer if you want to drink whisky, you will not buy the milk! You know milk is not a whisky. If you want to watch real porn you will not buy the educational material of safe sex. Real porn fans are supporting industry with their own money. It is very easy to say - I have no problems with condoms ... but not to buy videos. This is most important. Condoms will lead porn industry to bankruptcy! Everybody has rights to use condoms. No questions! The only question is about the choice. If someone is afraid to fuck without condoms, what he or she is doing in porn industry? Porn always will be risky occupation. This is a wrong opinion that fans will not have a choice if condoms becomes mandatory. We have our old collections. We can buy porn everywhere. I am ready to buy porn even at Africa if this stuff will be condom-free.


I totally agree with you. I am a porn fan for many years now and I am always watching condom-free porn. When I chat with other porn fans they also like their porn without condoms. Condom-free porn is the only real porn in my opinion. Flesh on flesh contact between the cocks of the guys and the pussy/asshole of the girl. If you wanna be a pornstar you have to accept that you can't use condoms. If you don't like that, you must find another job. So when LegalPorno start shooting porn again it has to be without condoms as always.

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Postby teammelee15 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:57 pm

Remember when California back here in the US made porn condoms only years ago? Ya...how did that go over....They just moved production across state lines...because NOBODY including the producers and consumers WANTED IT!

What scares be is GG has stated in the past he is all for using condoms....so ya....scary

If LP did do condoms no doubt it would hurt their sales I dont think anyone of us could say otherwise. But for some of you to say I would go elsewhere for my porn I LOL at you because even you know thats dumb to say....Where you going to go to get this type of content? Different planet? Get real with yourselves....

I voted never like many of you but in all reality if from here on out they were condoms only for the rest of time. I and you will buy SOME of their scenes dont kid yourself. WIll you buy as many...no. But dap_addict to say that you wouldnt buy anymore scenes and just wack off to all those Kira Thorn videos of the good ole days. LP will shoot a newer/hotter girl down the road and you will be all about her condoms or not. So to say you would not buy anymore scenes....again get real.

Just ask yourself this boys...Your given 2 options.

1-LP becomes a condom only site from here on out to stay in business because nobody including producers, the girls, and guys WONT shoot anymore porn do to the scare of becoming Nacho..Which basically ends your career and F$cks your life.

2-LP releases ALL the porn that they have backed up and NEVER release another new scene EVER again, and just remain a site like VideoZ that just stays up selling all their OLD porn....

Now dont get me wrong I am 100% against condoms...but we got to be real with the situation here...
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Postby lubor » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:02 pm

Of course, this is very sad, what happened with Nacho, but ... this man knew, what he was doing and he knew the risks, what he was taking.

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Postby lubor » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:07 pm

teammelee15 wrote:

I voted never like many of you but in all reality if from here on out they were condoms only for the rest of time. I and you will buy SOME of their scenes dont kid yourself. WIll you buy as many...no. But dap_addict to say that you wouldnt buy anymore scenes and just wack off to all those Kira Thorn videos of the good ole days. LP will shoot a newer/hotter girl down the road and you will be all about her condoms or not. So to say you would not buy anymore scenes....again get real.

Just ask yourself this boys...Your given 2 options.

1-LP becomes a condom only site from here on out to stay in business because nobody including producers, the girls, and guys WONT shoot anymore porn do to the scare of becoming Nacho..Which basically ends your career and F$cks your life.

2-LP releases ALL the porn that they have backed up and NEVER release another new scene EVER again, and just remain a site like VideoZ that just stays up selling all their OLD porn

Now dont get me wrong I am 100% against condoms...but we got to be real with the situation here...


No! Do not lie to yourself. Kira will fuck bareback for LP again and will do DAP and even anal creampies. She is one of the TOP models and earned the good money. She is famous with her high-risk stuff and she knows that this is the way, how to earn this good money. If she will retire, new hot bareback rider, DAP queen and creampie mistress will come as soon as possible. This is how this industry works for our money! What do you think? 3 or 6 months ago Kira did not know the risks of unprotected sex? Do STDs are something new? Does this is the first time she read something about HIV? Bullshit. She knew these risks all the time and she knowingly took these risks every time she fucked bareback in front of the camera. Everytime! Of course, emotions are emotions, but tomorrow you need to earn the money. Anyway, this is the first HIV case with famous porn actor in Europa. First time in 30 years. This is very sad, but this is not the reason for panic. Condoms...? What about Derrick Barts story? You can search in the net! This man worked with condom. Does condom rescued him? No!

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Postby teammelee15 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:18 am

lubor wrote:
teammelee15 wrote:

I voted never like many of you but in all reality if from here on out they were condoms only for the rest of time. I and you will buy SOME of their scenes dont kid yourself. WIll you buy as many...no. But dap_addict to say that you wouldnt buy anymore scenes and just wack off to all those Kira Thorn videos of the good ole days. LP will shoot a newer/hotter girl down the road and you will be all about her condoms or not. So to say you would not buy anymore scenes....again get real.

Just ask yourself this boys...Your given 2 options.

1-LP becomes a condom only site from here on out to stay in business because nobody including producers, the girls, and guys WONT shoot anymore porn do to the scare of becoming Nacho..Which basically ends your career and F$cks your life.

2-LP releases ALL the porn that they have backed up and NEVER release another new scene EVER again, and just remain a site like VideoZ that just stays up selling all their OLD porn

Now dont get me wrong I am 100% against condoms...but we got to be real with the situation here...


No! Do not lie to yourself. Kira will fuck bareback for LP again and will do DAP and even anal creampies. She is one of the TOP models and earned the good money. She is famous with her high-risk stuff and she knows that this is the way, how to earn this good money. If she will retire, new hot bareback rider, DAP queen and creampie mistress will come as soon as possible. This is how this industry works for our money! What do you think? 3 or 6 months ago Kira did not know the risks of unprotected sex? Do STDs are something new? Does this is the first time she read something about HIV? Bullshit. She knew these risks all the time and she knowingly took these risks every time she fucked bareback in front of the camera. Everytime! Of course, emotions are emotions, but tomorrow you need to earn the money. Anyway, this is the first HIV case with famous porn actor in Europa. First time in 30 years. This is very sad, but this is not the reason for panic. Condoms...? What about Derrick Barts story? You can search in the net! This man worked with condom. Does condom rescued him? No!


What are you talking about dude? Im not saying that their wont be girls/guys that WONT use condoms....Thats not what I am saying. I am saying IF LP makes it POLICY that they will USE condoms in all scenes with all guys and girls. Not oh I hate condoms and I know the risk so f#ck it....Jeez
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Postby Object_O » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:40 am

teammelee15 wrote:
lubor wrote:
teammelee15 wrote:

I voted never like many of you but in all reality if from here on out they were condoms only for the rest of time. I and you will buy SOME of their scenes dont kid yourself. WIll you buy as many...no. But dap_addict to say that you wouldnt buy anymore scenes and just wack off to all those Kira Thorn videos of the good ole days. LP will shoot a newer/hotter girl down the road and you will be all about her condoms or not. So to say you would not buy anymore scenes....again get real.

Just ask yourself this boys...Your given 2 options.

1-LP becomes a condom only site from here on out to stay in business because nobody including producers, the girls, and guys WONT shoot anymore porn do to the scare of becoming Nacho..Which basically ends your career and F$cks your life.

2-LP releases ALL the porn that they have backed up and NEVER release another new scene EVER again, and just remain a site like VideoZ that just stays up selling all their OLD porn

Now dont get me wrong I am 100% against condoms...but we got to be real with the situation here...


No! Do not lie to yourself. Kira will fuck bareback for LP again and will do DAP and even anal creampies. She is one of the TOP models and earned the good money. She is famous with her high-risk stuff and she knows that this is the way, how to earn this good money. If she will retire, new hot bareback rider, DAP queen and creampie mistress will come as soon as possible. This is how this industry works for our money! What do you think? 3 or 6 months ago Kira did not know the risks of unprotected sex? Do STDs are something new? Does this is the first time she read something about HIV? Bullshit. She knew these risks all the time and she knowingly took these risks every time she fucked bareback in front of the camera. Everytime! Of course, emotions are emotions, but tomorrow you need to earn the money. Anyway, this is the first HIV case with famous porn actor in Europa. First time in 30 years. This is very sad, but this is not the reason for panic. Condoms...? What about Derrick Barts story? You can search in the net! This man worked with condom. Does condom rescued him? No!


What are you talking about dude? Im not saying that their wont be girls/guys that WONT use condoms....Thats not what I am saying. I am saying IF LP makes it POLICY that they will USE condoms in all scenes with all guys and girls. Not oh I hate condoms and I know the risk so f#ck it....Jeez


Your option 1 up there is pretty much gonna end like option 2... I mean a blend low traffic website selling content at least 50% of viewers no longer consider porn material because of the rubber fuck
Don't underestimate market dynamics... producers move things to set up their own entities with their own rules and budget restriction. I would bet a new avant-garde studio shall move somewhere to produce even harder, rougher, rubberless high quality content

At any rate, I believe this thread is missing the point that the Nacho Vidal issue if confirmed highlights the fact Elisa test should be ditched and the whole industry should use RNAse PCR tests or more stringent techniques to screen performers even if they are more expensive and necessitate an increase in video/movie pricing

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Postby teammelee15 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:12 am

^^ Or stop hiring Dudes that do Gay porn as well....Like Bo Sins for one...

These guy performers for LP honestly shouldn't even be banging other girls on the side outside of the studio/GF or wife. That would cut down on a lot. I mean how do they even have the time/interest in banging Non Porn girls anyway?

Make them sign a contract that they cant have sex with others while working. Or since their last STD test.

The girls...well that would be tougher but same thing cant have sex since last test type of deal.

No way to make sure they are 100% abiding by it but...

God anything but watching condom porn ffs....
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Postby MayFan » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:07 am

I think the poll speaks for itself. There are ways to keep models safe, even when doing high risk scenes. I don't spend my money on porn with condoms.

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Postby magizi877 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:48 pm

For models and actors who do escorts, I would say yeah, condoms are a good idea.

But, I wouldn't buy such scenes.

Like, I wouldn't even search for them via free streaming websites, lol.

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Postby ZiziMinuscule » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:39 pm

If these condom-only scenes feature my favourite models, of course I would buy them. I want to support my favourite models.
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Postby davebowman » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:58 pm

I would never buy condom scenes - they are unwatchable boner-killers to me, and completely destroy the fantasy of 'great sex'.

If testing procedures need to improve, then I'm all for that - I don't want the actors involved taking unnecessary risks. But whilst this latest news has been shocking, I think people need to remember that such occurrences are very rare these days, and not to over-react and suddenly demand condoms in every scene.

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Postby Object_O » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:54 pm

magizi87 wrote:For models and actors who do escorts, I would say yeah, condoms are a good idea.

But, I wouldn't buy such scenes.

Like, I wouldn't even search for them via free streaming websites, lol.


Very much so true: as much as I enjoy rough porn, even sampled selections featuring rough DP/DAP/TAP with actors wearing condoms (I shall repeat that these are often featured on French studios like J&M, MSTX, WUNF, WCX [rough amateur style] and professional ones like Dorcel...), I don't even care clicking on play after spotting condoms on the preview / screenshots

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Postby teammelee15 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:23 pm

So one point that hasn't been made about the whole condom deal is that it's not even a viable option for performing DAP anyway....Which is 90% of this site.

What I mean by that is 2 guys wearing Rubber causes so much friction on both the guys dicks and the ladys bum that it's hard to perform the act in a meaningful way.

Unless you use A LOT of lube or just one guy wears a condom and the other doesn't. Rubber on rubber doesn't really work...I know because I have tried all 3. Nothing is better then skin.

So how would condoms even work in the first place? It's pretty much like having sex in the pool...it doesn't work because its wayyyyy to much friction.
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Postby teammelee15 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:30 pm

Also what scares me if they ever did decide to go condoms only is that we will see what LP did with the piss bang a few years ago....

They will mix non-condom videos in with new condom videos VERY slowly....To keep the "wont buy condom crowd" coming back to their site everyday. So like 95 condom scenes vs 5 non condom scenes a month :eek:

So we will see like 1-3 non condom scenes a month and will take years for them to release the girls that they already shot...Like they did with the piss ban over 2 years....We got 1 scene a month...if that. Until they released them all.

God help us if that happens because I REALLY want to see some girls scenes yet to be released.
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Postby Ultra-Gape » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:51 pm

lubor wrote:Porn star Jessica Darlin after HIV scare in 1998:
"I don't like condoms. I never have. I admit I will not use a condom until they become absolutely mandatory, and even then I would probably just quit. I love bareback sex, and I got into the business knowing the risk. I have always been willing to take the good with the bad. I got into this business because until lately there record regarding HIV was close to perfect. I believe that the fans are smarter than the industry gives them credit for being. The fans know that unprotected sex is a death sentence in today's society. We aren't immortal. We are fantasy. If we weren't providing fantasy a lot more cases of rape and AIDS would pop up due to sexual frustration. Sex can be fun, but sex can be dangerous. A lot of things are both of those things. If we stopped doing everything that was dangerous our lives wouldn't be worth living."

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/casey-calvert/why-i-dont-want-condoms-a-porn-performers-perspective_b_5425635.html


It's possibly worth highlighting that 20 years after the original quote was written, it is thankfully no longer really true that unprotected sex is a death sentence (if it ever was).

teammelee15 wrote:If LP did do condoms no doubt it would hurt their sales I dont think anyone of us could say otherwise. But for some of you to say I would go elsewhere for my porn I LOL at you because even you know thats dumb to say....Where you going to go to get this type of content? Different planet? Get real with yourselves....

While this may be true for many who post here it is not universally true. It very much depends exactly what sort of content people are after. I buy porn from other sites as well and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

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Postby Tom71 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:50 pm

There is a french site named explicite-art.com, they shoot their stuff mostly with condoms and I must say, I like it very much because the girls are beautiful and they do most of the nasty stuff I don't really care for the condoms, it's fine for me when they use them. I don't know why actresses and actors should take a higher risk just for my entertainment, so I would accept, if more companies would use condoms. Of course I would.

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Postby pornlover_holland » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:42 pm

Tom71 wrote:There is a french site named explicite-art.com, they shoot their stuff mostly with condoms and I must say, I like it very much because the girls are beautiful and they do most of the nasty stuff I don't really care for the condoms, it's fine for me when they use them. I don't know why actresses and actors should take a higher risk just for my entertainment, so I would accept, if more companies would use condoms. Of course I would.


In France there is a law that when you want to show porn on television (on Pay TV off course) condoms must be used in the vid. That is the reason why sites like Marc Dorcel and Explicite Art are using condoms in their vids, because they also wanna show their vids on pay tv.

Most porn fans prefer porn without condoms, so it is very easy. If you are a pornstar you must be willing to have sex without condoms. Porn directors know that and that is why they mostly shoot porn without condoms. There is a demand for condom free porn so it is perfectly logical that lots of condom free porn is produced.

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Postby dap-addict » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:22 pm

teammelee15 wrote:These guy performers for LP honestly shouldn't even be banging other girls on the side outside of the studio/GF or wife. That would cut down on a lot. I mean how do they even have the time/interest in banging Non Porn girls anyway?

Because it isn't payed that well for instance!
So some might do another scene outside of those 2 for LP that day, a private set for instance or even a gay4pay scene.
Remember girls are getting payed 2 to 5 times more in this job!

Btw, 80% is clear, but a bit low still, isn't it?
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Postby dap-addict » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:50 am

dap-addict wrote:Btw, 80% is clear, but a bit low still, isn't it?
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Its less than 10% pro-condom,though.
Forgot about 3rd option. :confused:
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Postby dap-addict » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:44 am

Still 8%
Not much to build a profitable biz on.
Question just is if all providers offered condom only, what would happen than?
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Postby CanadianCouple » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:04 am

I have tried to give condom porn a chance; and I just can't get up for it . Even if it has my favorite performers or is a super hard gonzo scene.

The industry has been quite good with HIV when measured with the number of performers and scenes. But they are falling BACKWARDS BECAUSE:

1 - HIV positive performers can pass their tests with undetectable viral loads. There is a test that will still confirm HIV, but the US industry won't use it (hm, i wonder why).

2 - There is a huge move by the gay side of the industry to get their guys into straight porn. The problem with this is HIV positive men are welcome in gay porn, and they do bareback scenes with HIV negative men on a regular basis. THey have the "undetectable viral load" to lay claim to; but if someone even fucks up on medication for a day they can spike and be transmittable. They also have very haphazzard testing and mostly don't. So you have men coming in, acting like they are new talent, who could have HIV or at least have been exposed to it. It is not discrimination to call out the gay porn industry for being reckless with HIV transmissions. I honestly don't understand why there is this big push for crossover talent in the US. They make good money in gay porn (more than guys make in straight porn).

3 - August Ames made one tweet about how she wouldn't work with crossover guys because they have HIV in their gay talent pool, and she got hammered for it to the point she killed herself. The gay side of the industry is trying to take over in some way and it is unfortunate.

4 - There are plenty of rumors of this guy and that guy having HIV but st ill performing and passing tests (Nacho was one of them). As long as you can keep that viral load down, you can pass and perform

5 - male talent go down to South America and bang the trannies. Now , I love having sex with tgirls too. But in Brazil and Columbia, they are fucking hot, but most of the sex workers there will bareback anyone for the right price; and thus, have epidemic HIV rates among them. Thai ladyboy sex workers also are very high HIV rates because, again, they will bareback easily for the right price. Male performers are used to bareback fucking so they go down to these places and go for it.

Its messy

But the bottom line is ,condom porn doesnt sell a ton; it is a niche audience. People use condoms in the real world because they HAVE TO, not because they want to. So, when fantasizing in porn, they don't want to see stuff they don't like.

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Postby dap-addict » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:53 pm

CanadianCouple wrote:condom porn doesnt sell a ton; it is a niche audience.

7% currently.
Not the smallest niche! ;)
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Postby teammelee15 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:38 am

CanadianCouple wrote:I have tried to give condom porn a chance; and I just can't get up for it . Even if it has my favorite performers or is a super hard gonzo scene.

The industry has been quite good with HIV when measured with the number of performers and scenes. But they are falling BACKWARDS BECAUSE:

1 - HIV positive performers can pass their tests with undetectable viral loads. There is a test that will still confirm HIV, but the US industry won't use it (hm, i wonder why).

2 - There is a huge move by the gay side of the industry to get their guys into straight porn. The problem with this is HIV positive men are welcome in gay porn, and they do bareback scenes with HIV negative men on a regular basis. THey have the "undetectable viral load" to lay claim to; but if someone even fucks up on medication for a day they can spike and be transmittable. They also have very haphazzard testing and mostly don't. So you have men coming in, acting like they are new talent, who could have HIV or at least have been exposed to it. It is not discrimination to call out the gay porn industry for being reckless with HIV transmissions. I honestly don't understand why there is this big push for crossover talent in the US. They make good money in gay porn (more than guys make in straight porn).

3 - August Ames made one tweet about how she wouldn't work with crossover guys because they have HIV in their gay talent pool, and she got hammered for it to the point she killed herself. The gay side of the industry is trying to take over in some way and it is unfortunate.

4 - There are plenty of rumors of this guy and that guy having HIV but st ill performing and passing tests (Nacho was one of them). As long as you can keep that viral load down, you can pass and perform

5 - male talent go down to South America and bang the trannies. Now , I love having sex with tgirls too. But in Brazil and Columbia, they are fucking hot, but most of the sex workers there will bareback anyone for the right price; and thus, have epidemic HIV rates among them. Thai ladyboy sex workers also are very high HIV rates because, again, they will bareback easily for the right price. Male performers are used to bareback fucking so they go down to these places and go for it.

Its messy

But the bottom line is ,condom porn doesnt sell a ton; it is a niche audience. People use condoms in the real world because they HAVE TO, not because they want to. So, when fantasizing in porn, they don't want to see stuff they don't like.


^^Good Post. But HOPEFULLY the industry will learn from this whole Nacho deal and STOP using GAY men in STRAIGHT porn from now on....I know a few of GG's guys at least in the past have done gay porn. Hopefully if they still are GG tells them to quit that gay sh#t or their out of a job.

As a women shooting for straight porn I sure as hell wouldn't want some guy banging a bunch of dudes on the side/work then banging me. Speaking as a man of course....But you get the point.
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Postby CanadianCouple » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:58 am

^I don't have an issue if the guy has permanently LEFT gay porn; and is passing industry standard testing for several months. Where the problem really lies is guys wanting to go back and forth; do some straight scenes, go do some gay scenes with potentially HIV positive partners; do some gay escorting, and back and forth. If the person has permanently left gay porn; they are at the same risk level as any other performer in strait porn. If they are still dipping into both industries, then they are a higher risk.

It's complicated, but from what I see, the gay industry in the US seems to be trying to take over straight porn by bringing in performers and getting into management positions in production companies. They lie about guys pasts and even try to present them as being new to porn. If you try to speak up, you get labeled a bigot and so forth.

I think gay porn is fine, being gay is cool. But this isn't a sexual orientation issue. It is an issue of risk factor. If you are willing to bareback HIV positive performers; you are a high risk person and someone should have freedom to say "no thanks".

Gay porn needs the same testing as everyone else. BUT THEY WON'T. Because most of their talent pool would evaporate as soon as they implemented this. They won't even mandate HIV performers can only be with HIV performers; they just let anyone fuck anyone.

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Postby JayJams » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:43 am

Voted no.

A lot of lines of work have inherent dangers. People take the jobs with the risk cuz the money is good, easy (compared to other jobs), it may be fun enjoyable (porn star), and added side benefits (travel, pension, lots of sex, etc.) that make it worth it. Most jobs that have a bit of risk, have safety protocols, etc., even so though, once in a while, something happens.

With everyone sticking each other in everyone's holes, and body fluids abound (and providing us with some amazing porn), I would say the overall record of incidents is pretty low in the porn industry. But again, because of the nature of it, once in a while something is bound to happen, and that is something you acknowledge going in.

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Postby drevokocur66 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:12 pm

JayJams wrote:Voted no.

A lot of lines of work have inherent dangers. People take the jobs with the risk cuz the money is good, easy (compared to other jobs), it may be fun enjoyable (porn star), and added side benefits (travel, pension, lots of sex, etc.) that make it worth it. Most jobs that have a bit of risk, have safety protocols, etc., even so though, once in a while, something happens.

With everyone sticking each other in everyone's holes, and body fluids abound (and providing us with some amazing porn), I would say the overall record of incidents is pretty low in the porn industry. But again, because of the nature of it, once in a while something is bound to happen, and that is something you acknowledge going in.


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