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I am just a customer but due to my interest in the scene i made some interesting contacts that are telling me some details of the biz.
And i am just wondering.

So a biz friend of me tried to book a girl trough an agency. An agency he worked with before without problems.
Agency needed a week (!) to tell him "Can't reach her, will try something else, maybe she has a new mail address or so". After 3 days more he canceled, he searched her on [spam], wrote her a mail and 2 hours later the booking was fixed. Was it too much for the agency to look on [spam] for the girl because maybe her mail address has changed? The result is: No money for the agency.

But he told me more stories. That an agency wrote "Girl is X is unreliable". But after checking with other agencies this was just a lie do to a personal beef. But why is the girl still in the list of the agency? Just to spread lies?

And so on and so on. He told me that he prefers to book manually meanwhile because agencies would cause more problem than they solve. And if a girl doesn't show up - in the end the agencies doesn't pay the travel cost even if the agency mediated the deal. Sounds strange to me! Is that true?

Are this stories true? And if yes, why are the agencies (or at least some) are acting that strange?
And what for do you need an an agency if you can write a mail to a girl directly in 10 minutes?

Agents often have their own agendas that do not match the best interest of the models.

xxx wrote:Agents often have their own agendas that do not match the best interest of the models.

$$$

It can also be the agent considered that to perform for your friend I not in the interest of the model/industry (example:
-poor website
-producer that shoot content that are more a way to fuck the girl than to make money
-content that goes on website as [spam]
-previous girls complaining about the production
Plenty of reasons, without you publishing the names this topic is another pointless conversation about nothing.

Well, there are 2 examples basically:
a) agency seemingly unable to contact girl within 10 days for a job.
b) agency calling a girl "unreliable" cause of personal agent-girl beef.

Basically to me it looks like that agency got unreliable, worse than it was before for that customer. To conclude that all agencies are the same and book directly only looks like an over-reaction. But for sure with Tw, Fb, IS etc. agencies have to work harder to get their listed girls enough jobs and play $$$ in for the agency as well. Wondering what agency he's talking about.

Giorgio Grandi wrote:without you publishing the names this topic is another pointless conversation about nothing.

I don't have names and they aren't needed because more about structures that are often the same. Because when i read this:

Giorgio Grandi wrote:It can also be the agent considered that to perform for your friend I not in the interest of the model/industry (example:
-poor website
-producer that shoot content that are more a way to fuck the girl than to make money
-content that goes on website as [spam]
-previous girls complaining about the production

a lot of beef in the industry i read on EBI or ADT (and that is only the stuff going public) makes more sense. Because what you describe is "PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE" behavior. When i get you right, instead of having balls and tell somebody "Sorry, we can't work now because i don't like your website" some agencies seem to blame it on the actress or act as if they would be unreliable to make him moving away. Like a woman who is afraid to cancel a date and instead act as strange as she can to put off the lover away from her, doesn't show up etc.

Let's make a simple fictional story with it:
- Agency 1 doesn't like the website and is acting unreliable instead of telling the truth
- Customer moves to Agency 2
- Agency 2 likes the website, booking passes trough
- At the booking the customer is asking the girl what is going on with agency 1
- Girl is angry because she needs the money and has no problem with the website and has nearly missed the shooting

And then everybody is going on EBI and beefing each other and nobody knows what is going on. And all that just because it's not possible to just
tell somebody "Sorry, we can't work with you atm because of abc. Fix it, then come back. You are welcome"

Giorgio Grandi wrote:It can also be the agent considered that to perform for your friend I not in the interest of the model/industry (example:
-poor website
-producer that shoot content that are more a way to fuck the girl than to make money
-content that goes on website as [spam]
-previous girls complaining about the production
Plenty of reasons, without you publishing the names this topic is another pointless conversation about nothing.

agent you say? Nah..

IMHO , the so called "agencies" are the fault here, they don't care about anything but money, but are stupid enough to not
figure out how to make them by building stable relationship with a model in the first place over a longer period of time.
So some girls are fed up and choose to prefer their own personal promotion on social networks. More money for them hassle free. For producers there is always a risk by contacting model directly, especially those who just started or it's for their own website, not even talking about not publishing it - like Giorgio says.

Nonetheless Giorgio, there should be no freakin reason for an agency to refuse to supply a girl for content that goes to [spam] like website. What's the difference between LP and other websites based on content uploading agreement including [spam]? IMHO NONE!