Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:20 pm[spam]
Most cases its either lack of sales, too high fees or on-set manners in a broader sense.
Don't know Ellen Betsy's case, though.
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:20 pmRe: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:44 pmRe: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:49 pmedit: Re-booked by GIO, thus all ok with her work ethics. 
Maybe she was out for some time?
Maybe some doubtful non-porn activities...
Anyway, I feel sad for her wanting to perform more but not getting porn work. She may be a victim im this years US import policy, though. There is just limited number of shooting slots.
Maybe she was out for some time?
Maybe some doubtful non-porn activities...
Anyway, I feel sad for her wanting to perform more but not getting porn work. She may be a victim im this years US import policy, though. There is just limited number of shooting slots.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:37 pmdap-addict wrote:Most cases its either lack of sales, too high fees or on-set manners in a broader sense.
Don't know Ellen Betsy's case, though.
This.
But I would add 2 more :
Over the years, there are so many models to keep track of, that we may forget about some of them for real so reminders are always welcome.
And, even though we have some pretty good tools to help evaluate them, model selection is not perfect because we have more users now and growing so newer models tend to have higher ratings (pushing down older models that may deserve "revisiting").
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:43 pmProducers do forget of some models, specially who doesn’t sell very well and who doesn’t sell very poor. “Middle level models” than maybe can increase their rank. I should create myself a tool for this.
The main issue if that “model agencies” don’t the the job (mean to take care of remind a producer about a model, her new look, send me pictures, etc).
The main issue if that “model agencies” don’t the the job (mean to take care of remind a producer about a model, her new look, send me pictures, etc).
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:07 pmIf producers are not calling, you need to better yourself. Just like any other business, your product needs to be wanted. There is competition and you need to compete.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:54 pmdrevokocur66 wrote:If producers are not calling, you need to better yourself. Just like any other business, your product needs to be wanted. There is competition and you need to compete.
As I see it the 'product' is the girl. Ultimately, the agency should be doing a better job of promoting their models... After all, isn't that the purpose of having agency representation and giving them a cut when a model works? Takes some of the stress off of the model finding jobs and having to promote herself.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:08 pmProblem is there is hardly any good agencies left anymore.
Social Network hunters have destroyed that market, too.
Its all effects of broadband internet and lacking work ethics.
Social Network hunters have destroyed that market, too.
Its all effects of broadband internet and lacking work ethics.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:06 pmPersonally, I got tired of requesting models.
It felt like talking to a wall.
DPconnoisseur still does it.
And many others who are more perseverant than me. lol
I think it would be very helpful to us, the fans, that producers
diligently speak when they agree with our request for a model and do call her,
but for some reason they couldn't book her. The specifics can remain a secret.
Or that they are not going to try because her previous scenes underperformed. Or whatever.
But there needs to be some communication between fans and producers.
There needs to be a middle ground where we know we are being listened to.
It felt like talking to a wall.
DPconnoisseur still does it.
And many others who are more perseverant than me. lol
I think it would be very helpful to us, the fans, that producers
diligently speak when they agree with our request for a model and do call her,
but for some reason they couldn't book her. The specifics can remain a secret.
Or that they are not going to try because her previous scenes underperformed. Or whatever.
But there needs to be some communication between fans and producers.
There needs to be a middle ground where we know we are being listened to.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:09 pmI forgot to mention that Petra managed to get MIna back,
probably because her model thread is disproportionately popular compared to her old scene count, 2 scenes.
And now that she is back, she was a sales success.
I THINK if you listen to the fans most of your scenes will be a sales success.
We are basically telling you what we want to buy. lol
probably because her model thread is disproportionately popular compared to her old scene count, 2 scenes.
And now that she is back, she was a sales success.
I THINK if you listen to the fans most of your scenes will be a sales success.
We are basically telling you what we want to buy. lol
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:12 pmmagizi87 wrote:Personally, I got tired of requesting models.
It felt like talking to a wall.
DPconnoisseur still does it.
And many others who are more perseverant than me. lol
I think it would be very helpful to us, the fans, that producers
diligently speak when they agree with our request for a model and do call her,
but for some reason they couldn't book her. The specifics can remain a secret.
Or that they are not going to try because her previous scenes underperformed. Or whatever.
But there needs to be some communication between fans and producers.
There needs to be a middle ground where we know we are being listened to.
We avoid acknowledging it because you know people like Woodman would pull out their entire catalog of fake "proofs" (like the recently 100% fabricated Whatsapp discussion with himself posing as Mina) and focus on these models to prevent them from coming here.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:21 pmThat makes sense, for models who are yet to work for LP.
But it kinda doesn't for models who have been here before.
I used to mostly request LP to bring models back. As in they know LP.
And are probably less inclined to believe lies from PW about LP (Hopefully)
I mean, why not give PM a try,
remember that guy who kept requesting Suzie Q? the one from Russia, scouted by SOS?
he kept requesting her dutifully for years!
Ah simple message "we tried and it didn't worked out" would have probably helped.
But it kinda doesn't for models who have been here before.
I used to mostly request LP to bring models back. As in they know LP.
And are probably less inclined to believe lies from PW about LP (Hopefully)
I mean, why not give PM a try,
remember that guy who kept requesting Suzie Q? the one from Russia, scouted by SOS?
he kept requesting her dutifully for years!
Ah simple message "we tried and it didn't worked out" would have probably helped.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:05 pmLOL Yeah, I remember that guy too! He was committed to Suzie Q too. As for myself I just will keep asking and hope the model shows back up I gave up on acknowledgement by LP a long time ago.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:51 pmxxx wrote:magizi87 wrote:Personally, I got tired of requesting models.
It felt like talking to a wall.
DPconnoisseur still does it.
And many others who are more perseverant than me. lol
I think it would be very helpful to us, the fans, that producers
diligently speak when they agree with our request for a model and do call her,
but for some reason they couldn't book her. The specifics can remain a secret.
Or that they are not going to try because her previous scenes underperformed. Or whatever.
But there needs to be some communication between fans and producers.
There needs to be a middle ground where we know we are being listened to.
We avoid acknowledging it because you know people like Woodman would pull out their entire catalog of fake "proofs" (like the recently 100% fabricated Whatsapp discussion with himself posing as Mina) and focus on these models to prevent them from coming here.
xxx, he's a cancer to not only LP. Interesting is he gets so many even uknown girls to do anal for him in contrast
with LP where if a girl has a chance to shoot for you and her sales are not the best, she has no other chance. Take Kizzy Sixx for example.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:19 amEvery man and his dog seems to be following me on [spam] for a long time now so when I retweet things that are either brand new or not been seen for a while, it almost 100% appears on a forum post within hours. It's all good, mostly, although sometimes some folk are a wee bit too hasty to start a thread for a babe who I've not long followed.
Aside, when I saw Ellen's tweet yesterday I gathered it would be as simple as just retweeting it. And it was
Aside, when I saw Ellen's tweet yesterday I gathered it would be as simple as just retweeting it. And it was
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:01 amA shame if Ellen can't get any work she's absolutely gorgeous.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:02 am[spam]
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:08 amAngel Eyes wrote:drevokocur66 wrote:If producers are not calling, you need to better yourself. Just like any other business, your product needs to be wanted. There is competition and you need to compete.
As I see it the 'product' is the girl. Ultimately, the agency should be doing a better job of promoting their models... After all, isn't that the purpose of having agency representation and giving them a cut when a model works? Takes some of the stress off of the model finding jobs and having to promote herself.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:20 amRight, drevokocur66, but most agencies are not working anymore really.
In social network age girls have to promote themselves, too.
And fans sure do a good thing reminding studios of girls.
In social network age girls have to promote themselves, too.
And fans sure do a good thing reminding studios of girls.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:28 amBtw, Ellen Betsy is from Dec 15th in Bp on porn work tour.
She has at least two agencies claimed to be amongst the best remaining in Europe.
Looks like she doesn't trust them. Or her tweet is just to help get her schedule full really.
She has at least two agencies claimed to be amongst the best remaining in Europe.
Looks like she doesn't trust them. Or her tweet is just to help get her schedule full really.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:39 pmAngel Eyes wrote:drevokocur66 wrote:If producers are not calling, you need to better yourself. Just like any other business, your product needs to be wanted. There is competition and you need to compete.
As I see it the 'product' is the girl. Ultimately, the agency should be doing a better job of promoting their models... After all, isn't that the purpose of having agency representation and giving them a cut when a model works? Takes some of the stress off of the model finding jobs and having to promote herself.
Agencies work with what they have. Even the shiniest turd, is still a turd. At the end of the day, it is your job to better yourself. Work on your looks, learn new skills, be eager and willing to try new ones. If you have a niche, exploit it. Make yourself pleasant and easy to work with. Strive to communicate and network with others. If people like working with you, they will let others know. I think Monika Wild is a fantastic example. She worked extremely hard on herself, and it paid off. Not all girls are fuckable out of the box, most have to put in a lot of work. Most producers will shoot a girl if she is new, but after that, you need to offer more. Make yourself wanted.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:54 pmxxx wrote:And, even though we have some pretty good tools to help evaluate them, model selection is not perfect because we have more users now and growing so newer models tend to have higher ratings (pushing down older models that may deserve "revisiting").
That's very good point! Have to say especially in the model threads the amount of suggestions is overwhelming.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:10 pmLet's pour a new glass of wine - girls are looking for work by themselves for YEARS!
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:45 amIf LP shoots scenes with Ellen Betsy, I'll be first in the queue to buy them.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:38 pmGiorgio Grandi wrote:Producers do forget of some models, specially who doesn’t sell very well and who doesn’t sell very poor.
Could have other reasons than thought
I am a customer for years...but i don't buy scenes where the girls are wearing clothes and shoes during the shoot !! I avoid them! Porn is not a fashion show! It's fine to introduce girls with lingerie, but during the sex i want to see the full body, her feet....everything! So LP missed hundred of sales (!) just from me!
And as i have seens some girls were only filmed with clothes...! And my friends think about this the same....
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:15 pmmagizi87 wrote:remember that guy who kept requesting Suzie Q? the one from Russia, scouted by SOS?
Lot of guys actually (me included
), but you talk about Teschio. BTW, that question must be in forum's top 5 most frenquently asked & unanswered.
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:47 amwtf? My precious post has disappeared?
Re: Girls abandoned by producers!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:57 pmHere's a little list of "abandoned" girls I think might be worth re-evaluate:
Afina Kisser
Alexxa Vice
Alysha Rage
Angel Karyna
Annie Wolf
Ashley Woods
Becky Berry (retired?)
Bree Haze (not really, but almost)
Cara Wolf
Carla Rosa (France)
Di Devi
Eloa Lombard
Helena Moeller
Jessi Empera
July Sun
Kate Sottile (retired?)
Kathy Anderson (no more anal?)
Kiara Gold
Lady Bug
Lyen Parker
Mila Milan
Nicolette Noir (she made comeback recently)
Nikky Dream
Rossella Visconti
Sara Ray (Spain)
Susana Melo
Suzie Sun (retired?)
Tatiana Swank
Venus Hills (retired?)
Vittoria Dolce
Afina Kisser
Alexxa Vice
Alysha Rage
Angel Karyna
Annie Wolf
Ashley Woods
Becky Berry (retired?)
Bree Haze (not really, but almost)
Cara Wolf
Carla Rosa (France)
Di Devi
Eloa Lombard
Helena Moeller
Jessi Empera
July Sun
Kate Sottile (retired?)
Kathy Anderson (no more anal?)
Kiara Gold
Lady Bug
Lyen Parker
Mila Milan
Nicolette Noir (she made comeback recently)
Nikky Dream
Rossella Visconti
Sara Ray (Spain)
Susana Melo
Suzie Sun (retired?)
Tatiana Swank
Venus Hills (retired?)
Vittoria Dolce