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I had a look back through Timea Bella's scenes just now and what surprised me was how less varied the output has become in terms of multiple girls in a scene.
To his credit Giorgio occasionally gives us a 3 girls scene but the Gonzo studio never ventures above two girls now and hasn't for a couple of years. I looked back and saw some epic 3 girl, 4 girl and even a 5 girl scene.
These cost more to shoot but I cannot believe that these were somehow viable in the days of SZ 200-600 when the site had less members than it is now, a few years on, and we assume many more scenes sold.
How about once or twice a month a 3 or 4 girl scene?

They were not viable. Everything that's not supported enough will disappear.

No more 3 or 4 girl scenes (not to mention no more MFF scenes) -- that's why I can't find much to buy on LP these days and so I either end up buying old Sineplex stuff or, in most cases, looking elsewhere. It's a niche market that very few sites are serving these days.

Sir Noel wrote:How about once or twice a month a 3 or 4 girl scene?

Expecting that kind of variety from Gonzo studio is WAY optimistic. They have been making the exact same 3 on 1 DP scene for years now and they are not going to stop anytime soon. They just dont care.
At least you multi girl fans will get one Christmas orgy scene per year.

hjohjole wrote:

Sir Noel wrote:How about once or twice a month a 3 or 4 girl scene?

(...) They have been making the exact same 3 on 1 DP scene for years now (...)

Exactly. No wonder I'm bored with it all.

xxx wrote:They were not viable. Everything that's not supported enough will disappear.

Except for DP scenes. They will continue to be pumped out on a conveyor belt no matter how bad they sell.

I have asked the same question. It seems for some strange reason that men prefere to look at many men and one girl than the other way around.... It doesn`t make sense to me, but what is pop is what will come around.
The argument that two girls costs more than one doesn`t make any sense aither since having multiple guys in a scnene seems to not be a problem...

xxx wrote:They were not viable. Everything that's not supported enough will disappear.

I would rather hear about a price increase for niche / expensive scenes rather than this.
LP already getting more and more boring, and 2019 doesn't sound any better.

If they really cannot be made to NOT make a loss then so be it but there is a difference between making a loss and not being viable.

Ford make many motor cars, not just winnow their range down until only their best selling vehicle remains. Surely scenes which catch they eye and attract people to the site (such as the Christmas orgies) cannot be measured in terms of viability purely on the costs vs direct revenue?

Though this is a business and I understand that xxx has to be brutal in terms of doing what works for him and not for us as we have to be brutal, not buying scenes out of good faith or to support the site but on the same cold calculations of self interest.

xxx wrote:They were not viable. Everything that's not supported enough will disappear.

Does that mean piss is here to stay? It certainly has enough support.

Sir Noel wrote:If they really cannot be made to NOT make a loss then so be it but there is a difference between making a loss and not being viable.

Ford make many motor cars, not just winnow their range down until only their best selling vehicle remains. Surely scenes which catch they eye and attract people to the site (such as the Christmas orgies) cannot be measured in terms of viability purely on the costs vs direct revenue?

Though this is a business and I understand that xxx has to be brutal in terms of doing what works for him and not for us as we have to be brutal, not buying scenes out of good faith or to support the site but on the same cold calculations of self interest.

If it's easy to just shoot anything and and at least break even why do you think all these new studios disappear? You guys have no idea what you are talking about. We produced countless scenes for the sake of variery and to support models we felt deserved more work. But ultimately if the support is only one sided, it stops. You think you're smart because you can use torrents? You just destroy the things you love.

Multiple girl scenes are not dead but we do them more carefully.

Also, if we keep growing you will see more variety because we might actually reach a point where we really can shoot almost anything and at least break even. But that's not the case at the moment.

too many girls ruin the scene imo. too much happening on screen.

xxx wrote:

Sir Noel wrote:If they really cannot be made to NOT make a loss then so be it but there is a difference between making a loss and not being viable.

Ford make many motor cars, not just winnow their range down until only their best selling vehicle remains. Surely scenes which catch they eye and attract people to the site (such as the Christmas orgies) cannot be measured in terms of viability purely on the costs vs direct revenue?

Though this is a business and I understand that xxx has to be brutal in terms of doing what works for him and not for us as we have to be brutal, not buying scenes out of good faith or to support the site but on the same cold calculations of self interest.

If it's easy to just shoot anything and and at least break even why do you think all these new studios disappear? You guys have no idea what you are talking about. We produced countless scenes for the sake of variery and to support models we felt deserved more work. But ultimately if the support is only one sided, it stops. You think you're smart because you can use torrents? You just destroy the things you love.

To be clear, I did NOT mean "not buying scenes" in terms of sourcing them via torrents instead but rather only picking to buy scenes based on want rather than to support the producer etc. Case in point, however much I like the idea of the Brazil trip the two trailers I have seen so far suggest the lighting and setup is not as good as I'd expect. I'd be buying those scenes to support the idea, not because I really wanted the scenes.

xxx wrote:They were not viable. Everything that's not supported enough will disappear.

What do you exactly mean with "not supported enough"?

I am pretty sure xxx means"not bought enough"

Yeah, obviously, but what's the criteria? Any particular revenue or % of scene costs?

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Excellent. Thanks for the suggestion. Just the kind of scene I love.

VictorH33 wrote:

ElJab78 wrote:Sure do miss the triple stackers series. One of the best is this scene:

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