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I Wonder how much does the models earn for a scene? Is it over 1tk dollars or under 1000 dollars??

10 dollars/euros per hour

katy_ass-addict wrote:10 dollars/euros per hour

Do you know that, and how long does the film?

joke

About $3.50

yeah. better guess

Rarely below $1000.

I wonder if they are paid a flat rate, or if they get any royalties?

I think it's about $1,000 to $1,500 depending on the model. The model's popularity would give her some bargaining power.

wonder how much an a class celeb would cost

I think this year I can count the girl I paid under $1000 with the fingers of a single hand

Giorgio Grandi wrote:I think this year I can count the girl I paid under $1000 with the fingers of a single hand

But what is the normal salery?

It'd be interesting to know how much a model would pay for an agent and the impact of the agent on the model's paycheck as well as how far an agent would impede on how far the producer would like to go on her
It'd also be relevant to know the share of LP's models managed by an agent... my guess is 100% and to contrast such a production with studios' recruiting semi-amateur models who are totally independent
The reason I'm querying about these is that I wistfully regret the golden era 2006-2010 when producers grabbed cheap smoking hot Czech pussies and bang them till they reach scrap salvage value

Average now is over 1800$ for me, but the concept of "normal" doenst mean anything, technically any model/agency can ask how much she wants and its up to the producer to agree or not (someone uses the other way around, something like "I have this budget", this means most of the time the model is underpaid).

Cut of the agency is paid from the producer: 20%. Its true the model pay agency fees to the agency as well, but she get benefits (Fly Tickets, Accomodations, Driver, etc.) at the end of the year there is no profit on this.
Also you need to understand that to scout a exclusive model cost in average 3000-4000$
The 2006-2016 era was characterized by very well done recruiting of unknown models, now most of so called "recruiters" are digging social network for models that are already in the industry. A bunch of parasites that they even consider this thought almost "aggressive" and "not educated". Fuck them.

Now when you scout a model and she makes a social account, she gets hammered from any side from what i call "social hookers" (use search in the forum, I wrote already about this), Its almost pointless for a model agency to scout a model as you need to fight for keep her working for you. This bring to less models, lower prices and a big head hake.

Last: scenes are previously agreed with the agency (and the model), so when for instance a girl goes on stage for attempt a DAP, she knows about this very well. Producer can not really force anything different that what previously agreed (at least I work in that way, but I know someone doesnt do in this way though)

damn!!!
almost 2 thousand dollars in one scene only??

really?
if a girl do 3 scenes in a week, she can afford a salary of almost 25 thousand dollars in a month??
man!!!
thats a lot !!!
with all respect!!!

Giorgio Grandi wrote:Average now is over 1800$ for me, but the concept of "normal" doenst mean anything, technically any model/agency can ask how much she wants and its up to the producer to agree or not (someone uses the other way around, something like "I have this budget", this means most of the time the model is underpaid).

Cut of the agency is paid from the producer: 20%. Its true the model pay agency fees to the agency as well, but she get benefits (Fly Tickets, Accomodations, Driver, etc.) at the end of the year there is no profit on this.
Also you need to understand that to scout a exclusive model cost in average 3000-4000$
The 2006-2016 era was characterized by very well done recruiting of unknown models, now most of so called "recruiters" are digging social network for models that are already in the industry. A bunch of parasites that they even consider this thought almost "aggressive" and "not educated". Fuck them.

Now when you scout a model and she makes a social account, she gets hammered from any side from what i call "social hookers" (use search in the forum, I wrote already about this), Its almost pointless for a model agency to scout a model as you need to fight for keep her working for you. This bring to less models, lower prices and a big head hake.

Last: scenes are previously agreed with the agency (and the model), so when for instance a girl goes on stage for attempt a DAP, she knows about this very well. Producer can not really force anything different that what previously agreed (at least I work in that way, but I know someone doesnt do in this way though)

Thank you for the feedback. It shed light on lots of technical aspects, especially that's a business model (finding gigs, community managing, accommodation-travelling stipends, etc as an all-in-one package) I'm totally unfamiliar with.
That new trend where social media head hunters probe for girls is kind of creepy knowing the intensity of scammers on the web

2000$ is really cheap for a model
i thought you pay her at least 25 K per scene

s3tr wrote:2000$ is really cheap for a model
i thought you pay her at least 25 K per scene

25k per scene?? No company would survive that. 2k is perfectly reasonable.

The salary of the models sound good, if you consider that the bulk of them are between 20-30 years old.
If per say, a model does 1 scene per week and gets paid $2,000 USD per scene, that amounts to $104,000 in one year. (before tax)

We know that for LP, usually a bunch of them, do 2 or 3 scenes per one week.
If they keep that up most of the year, working for other productions, their salary is much higher than 104 thousand per year.

If you read Giorgio's comments about why they don't like models to post their status on social media,
because they start -working side jobs-. You know most of them, are super busy people. Making as much money as they can.

For instance, Nelly Kent said she already has done like 100 scenes and she's been in the business less than a year.

Most of us, don't make 100,000 USD per year, when we are in our 20's.
And if we are lucky, we don't work more than 40 hrs per week.

You guys are funny...

Firstly, I want to say that I’m shocked and will pay much more respect to the porn-actresses allover the world.
I really thought the average are between 3-5k USD. I thought 2k USD are the minimum, which normally get everyone for first scenes. And I expected that raw DAP scenes bring someone like Arwen easily 10-12k USD.

Secondly, in my opinion salaries of 104k USD a year are for a pornstar definitely not as high as a lot of you might think. They don’t get this money for 45-50 years like an experienced engineer, financial analyst, lawyer, manager or doc.
The active career time of many of them lasts only a few months. A few months where most of them do extreme sex. They get DAPed, pissed, slapped, spitted, manhandled. I think the lucky ones are these who challenges hundreds of scenes over many years to buy real estates and save enough money for bad times. All other do have serious problems. All these things they do are still taboo in our „official“ society. Especially in many eastern european countries, where they loose their image completely. The risk is high to loose the contact to family members, friends, etc. I think its also hard to find a „normal“ job after that. And I’m sure there are no social benefits on top to the salery e.g. insurances for health, retirement, unemployment.

I hope that many of them do enough money with escort, social media, fan-products/services, or marry rich guys. Because they go literally through hell.

We guys are lucky having the opportunity to jerk off and don’t give a shit on this problem.

Good night

zeusanalfreak299 wrote:You guys are funny...

Firstly, I want to say that I’m shocked and will pay much more respect to the porn-actresses allover the world.
I really thought the average are between 3-5k USD. I thought 2k USD are the minimum, which normally get everyone for first scenes. And I expected that raw DAP scenes bring someone like Arwen easily 10-12k USD.

Secondly, in my opinion salaries of 104k USD a year are for a pornstar definitely not as high as a lot of you might think. They don’t get this money for 45-50 years like an experienced engineer, financial analyst, lawyer, manager or doc.
The active career time of many of them lasts only a few months. A few months where most of them do extreme sex. They get DAPed, pissed, slapped, spitted, manhandled. I think the lucky ones are these who challenges hundreds of scenes over many years to buy real estates and save enough money for bad times. All other do have serious problems. All these things they do are still taboo in our „official“ society. Especially in many eastern european countries, where they loose their image completely. The risk is high to loose the contact to family members, friends, etc. I think its also hard to find a „normal“ job after that. And I’m sure there are no social benefits on top to the salery e.g. insurances for health, retirement, unemployment.

I hope that many of them do enough money with escort, social media, fan-products/services, or marry rich guys. Because they go literally through hell.

We guys are lucky having the opportunity to jerk off and don’t give a shit on this problem.

Good night

Totally agree with you.

Is sad but nowdays girls to be called for a new scene have to do really crazy things that have to be painful and hard to handle mentally. The costs associated with becoming famous and beyond this, their videos and photos remain accesible from any part of the world 24/7 for the rest of their lives.Girls fees as explained by GG remain the same as 10 years ago. And only a very few are so pretty or willing to do crazy stuff to shoot more than 50 videos for "big porn companies" such as LP or DDF.
I believe that for a woman is better to Escort because she remains unknown and when she leave only a few knew about her work. Gone are the days (beginning os the century) where girls at least make little fortunes working for PRIVATE or EVIL ANGEL and this videos where today would be considered vanillas light. Is even worst for many girls that only shoot 2 or 3 videos and then leave. Is sad but the most important part of porn Bussiness (Young Woman mainly) enter and leave the industry not in a good way.

It's not about how much you want to pay the models, but how much people spend on the scenes.

xxx wrote:It's not about how much you want to pay the models, but how much people spend on the scenes.

Yes and not. The financial solvency of consumers might be the most important factor, but it´s not the only one which can influence the profitability significantly. And in the end the wages/salaries of employees, also. That´s simple ecomnomics. Every long-term oriented successful business invest a certain amount of the revenue in research & development, analytics, portfolio management, etc. especially to find out what the business is doing right and what not. So, companies can focus on the most profitable products and services.

I don´t need to explain all this here...

But if you look on LP, there seems to be a lot of space for improvement. It´s only my opinion, but I can´t understand two major things from my logical perspective.

1. A bestseller scene are the perfect proof, how camera-work should be, which "must-have"-sex positions should be included, and which emotions, body postures and behavior should be considered to encourage consumers to buy the scene. Unfortunately, a lot of scenes here reflect the opposite. Diversity can be very important, that´s why Amazon is now the most valuable company in the word. But LP is for me something like Ferrari. This company doesn´t produce e-cars, vans, trucks, busses, etc. They are focused only on sport-cars, which a lot of their rich fan-society would buy. Maybe, they produce also a bike, just to experiment and see how sales will develop, but the focus stay on sport-cars. So, why LP is not focusing much more all the aspects which made scenes to bestsellers?

2. The most extreme scenes here show us, that a porn actress with a well trained asshole can get max. four cocks in their holes (TAP+mouth). But there are "these" 10/20/100on1 scenes... One more inefficient aspect. We the management doesn´t rather cut some guys off, and invest these money in better camera work, better actors, more scenes, instead?

Thank you and good night, Sir!

xxx wrote:It's not about how much you want to pay the models, but how much people spend on the scenes.

Did you meant to say, how "many" people spend on the scene?

I would not mind to spend 5k for good girl doing 4on1 DP/DAP, but I would pretend she doesnt work around for less money that what I paid (and its doable). If the LP system for the revenue of studios will change a bit as I heard it could, than I will probably start to offer that kind of money to girls that at now would not even consider porn (20 scenes year multiplied 5k would open doors that now are totally close with some girl that would have potential).
Price in tickets would increase though, but wont really be much. Maybe 20-30%, but this will bring talents that otherwise wont even consider porn as a source of incoming.

Its probably a matter of time

I wonder if you guys can crunch the numbers
So instead of getting 48 tkt a month from the membership
We get less, but at the same time scenes don't cost 5 tkt, but like 1 or 2?

Im glad that the girls earn upwards of 2 k.

Cause the female models on this site really deserves getting well paid for doing crazy things in front of the camera because if it wasn't for them it would be no scenes.
Aside from the girls getting well paid they should also be respected and viewed as human beings, some guys here make me want to get a barf bag viewing the girls as subhumans that deserves to get annihilated, destroyed, humiliated, enjoy girls being in pain it sickens me.

Giorgio Grandi wrote:Average now is over 1800$ for me, but the concept of "normal" doenst mean anything, technically any model/agency can ask how much she wants and its up to the producer to agree or not (someone uses the other way around, something like "I have this budget", this means most of the time the model is underpaid).

Cut of the agency is paid from the producer: 20%. Its true the model pay agency fees to the agency as well, but she get benefits (Fly Tickets, Accomodations, Driver, etc.) at the end of the year there is no profit on this.
Also you need to understand that to scout a exclusive model cost in average 3000-4000$
The 2006-2016 era was characterized by very well done recruiting of unknown models, now most of so called "recruiters" are digging social network for models that are already in the industry. A bunch of parasites that they even consider this thought almost "aggressive" and "not educated". Fuck them.

Now when you scout a model and she makes a social account, she gets hammered from any side from what i call "social hookers" (use search in the forum, I wrote already about this), Its almost pointless for a model agency to scout a model as you need to fight for keep her working for you. This bring to less models, lower prices and a big head hake.

Last: scenes are previously agreed with the agency (and the model), so when for instance a girl goes on stage for attempt a DAP, she knows about this very well. Producer can not really force anything different that what previously agreed (at least I work in that way, but I know someone doesnt do in this way though)

But if so may don`t want it to be like this and the consequenses by itself tell us that the system was better before. So why not change it....?

Giorgio Grandi wrote:I would not mind to spend 5k for good girl doing 4on1 DP/DAP, but I would pretend she doesnt work around for less money that what I paid (and its doable).

How pretend that?
How is that doable?



For non-US rookies I dont see a possibility to get payed more than 2k. And for east European girls 0,9 to 1,3k is absolutely fair payment and actually very good money.
DAP based. piss not included.

D.A., there are several euromodels, even russians, that in my wallet are listed at $2000...

Of course!
But as written I am talking about rookies, newbies etc.

Depending on where I hire, I'm from Mexico and here I've seen people who pay less than $ 500 for the full movie, of course, I also imagine that it should depend on the person who does not think it's the same to hire a stranger to Kendra Lust

geralt_ wrote:Im glad that the girls earn upwards of 2 k.

Cause the female models on this site really deserves getting well paid for doing crazy things in front of the camera because if it wasn't for them it would be no scenes.
Aside from the girls getting well paid they should also be respected and viewed as human beings, some guys here make me want to get a barf bag viewing the girls as subhumans that deserves to get annihilated, destroyed, humiliated, enjoy girls being in pain it sickens me.

Well said. This is a hard, physical job and many of the attitudes here stink.

20-40k per year profit for girls guaranteed for GIOs TWM agency exclusives.

I think about what Giorgio said, 2k$ for one day job is quite good money

2k is top model payment for DAP and piss, rather than the average I guess.
But more important is that GIO can guarantee these girls a decent income over at least 1-2 years. 20-40k for max. 6mt EU work stay is really a nice sum for girls flying in from Russia or Ukraine! Plus tickets and hotel/room payed. Thats what I'd call fair work conditions!

wylka1 wrote:I think about what Giorgio said, 2k$ for one day job is quite good money

Yeah and well deserved. I mean having your orifices stuffed beyond what one even could think is physically possible, having super rough sex, the issue of the fact that your video will be up forever online. So if a girl wants to do some scenes in her 20s and then changes her way of life they are still going to be there.

geralt_ wrote:

wylka1 wrote:I think about what Giorgio said, 2k$ for one day job is quite good money

Yeah and well deserved. I mean having your orifices stuffed beyond what one even could think is physically possible, having super rough sex, the issue of the fact that your video will be up forever online. So if a girl wants to do some scenes in her 20s and then changes her way of life they are still going to be there.

Well, in my opinion, I would be really satisfied if I earn this amount of money for such short time. I understand this is not for everybody, but how much scene can girl do for LP ? maybe 5 to 10 per year, plus lot of jobs for other productions etc. how long can girl stay in porn business ? maybe 5 years ? During this period I will have enough money to quit, in fact my videos will be there forever, that's true, but there is lot of porn almost everywhere, so I think after for example 10 years my videos will be forgotten etc. I will have no problem with doing this job, but this is just my opinion, maybe I am wrong.

wylka1 wrote:

geralt_ wrote:

wylka1 wrote:I think about what Giorgio said, 2k$ for one day job is quite good money

Yeah and well deserved. I mean having your orifices stuffed beyond what one even could think is physically possible, having super rough sex, the issue of the fact that your video will be up forever online. So if a girl wants to do some scenes in her 20s and then changes her way of life they are still going to be there.

Well, in my opinion, I would be really satisfied if I earn this amount of money for such short time. I understand this is not for everybody, but how much scene can girl do for LP ? maybe 5 to 10 per year, plus lot of jobs for other productions etc. how long can girl stay in porn business ? maybe 5 years ? During this period I will have enough money to quit, in fact my videos will be there forever, that's true, but there is lot of porn almost everywhere, so I think after for example 10 years my videos will be forgotten etc. I will have no problem with doing this job, but this is just my opinion, maybe I am wrong.

who are you? where are you from? how old?

skeeter23 wrote:

wylka1 wrote:Well, in my opinion, I would be really satisfied if I earn this amount of money for such short time. I understand this is not for everybody, but how much scene can girl do for LP ? maybe 5 to 10 per year, plus lot of jobs for other productions etc. how long can girl stay in porn business ? maybe 5 years ? During this period I will have enough money to quit, in fact my videos will be there forever, that's true, but there is lot of porn almost everywhere, so I think after for example 10 years my videos will be forgotten etc. I will have no problem with doing this job, but this is just my opinion, maybe I am wrong.

who are you? where are you from? how old?

I think someone should be asking you the same questions.