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Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:58 pm
by ryanfury
Hi everyone, long time fan and supporter (my real account is not tied to this one)

been thinking about the most scenes i've ever enjoyed since watching porn and i must admit Giorgio's scenes (particularly interracial) seems other worldly.
From the way the performer performs and the non ego in his style, and the things these girls do for him... I'll never forget Lyndsey Olsen drinking her own yellow piss!
How do you tell a woman "I want you to drink your own pee" before a scene and she agrees?? While pee scenes is not for me, the blackbuster series is unparalleled
in its excellence. He also listens to his fans and makes adjustments! Anyhow enough of my words. Here is my top five porn directors of all time:

1. Giorgio Grandi
2. Rocco Siffredi
3. Jay Sin (before the tranny stuff)
4. Luis
5. Greg Lansky

Any opinions??

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:10 pm
by dap-addict
Doing wet is just a genre and payed more $$$. Girls agree or dont.

For me, I am a huge fan or Giorgio Grandi, but maybe Jean-Yves LeCastel is still bigger for me.
Its difficult to compare 1998 and 2018, though.

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:17 pm
by blublubeacha
Big fan too. The greatest? Yes. if you are a pervert like me. He shoots some of the hottest ass/anal/DAP stuff

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:06 pm
by ryanfury
dap-addict wrote:Doing wet is just a genre and payed more $$$. Girls agree or dont.

For me, I am a huge fan or Giorgio Grandi, but maybe Jean-Yves LeCastel is still bigger for me.
Its difficult to compare 1998 and 2018, though.

I agree how could i forget JYL. Definitely in my top 10

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:05 pm
by Iddaoeeok
No he isn't.

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:10 pm
by blublubeacha
Iddaoeeok wrote:No he isn't.
:)

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:16 pm
by hjohjole
Dont know about "best of all time". I wouldn't put him above Rocco Siffred for example.
But he just might be the best director that is active right now and he is constantly getting better. Definitely one of the best, have been a fan for a long time.

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:33 pm
by utopiaa
He definitely is one of the best, but hard to say if he is the best of all time. There is some stiff competition there. JYL and Clark in their golden times shot some really great stuff. Same as Jay SIn. Rocco has some great stuff too, but he is more of as hit and miss for me, although he is probably the most well known.

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:10 am
by SimplyStunning
Iddaoeeok wrote:No he isn't.

+1

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:51 am
by Viktor Kjartansson
Yes he is.

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:55 am
by Viktor Kjartansson
Yes he is.

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:25 pm
by bbb13
It's not important to know who is the best. He's an excellent director, that's what counts.

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:13 pm
by xersesxox
Giorgio Grandi is a very good director , and, he does have his own style as well as many good ideas , and, some of them particularly innovative.

I am in opinion we should wait at lest a decade to figure out if it will be considered one of the best ever.

Though, I want to highlight that Giorgio began to work like director with much less resources than his more famous colleagues , and, he has been able to to fill the limits of budget with many good ideas and even in porno the good ideas have a fundamental importance.

Once Martin Scorsese told : It is incredible how Federico Fellini having only the 10 % of my budget can produce so fantastic movies :)


New Porno directors like Greg Lansky do not drive me crazy, though he is the number one for the politically correct porno, but, I must admit he has got a very good technic and an excellent entourage .

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:57 am
by dap-addict
dap-addict wrote:For me, I am a huge fan or Giorgio Grandi, but maybe Jean-Yves LeCastel is still bigger for me.
Its difficult to compare 1998 and 2018, though.

What a nice 1st post on that subject! :)

MrBeeeaM wrote:I watched many LP scenes in the past but I am too shy to post on forums, you know the drill...
I am also a Jean-Yves Lecastel fan, he was the true Master of anal and gapes, far better actor + director than many others at the time and nowadays.

After what I just saw I couldn't resist, I registered only to say this big 'thank you' to Giorgio:

How come nobody noticed (as far as I can tell) that there is a HUGE TRIBUTE to Master JYL in GIO856 starting at 53:20 ??!

We have these two gorgeous women, Kristy and Dominica, who were only toddlers during JYL's haydays, saying "kuckmaaal" in 2018, with a smile!

Unless I'm mistaken (please correct me if I'm wrong), nobody ever made such a CLEAR reference to the works of Mr Matador himself after so many years!
C'mon, I know many of you consider him as the INVENTOR of gapes, etc, and you didn't see THAT? :)
I believe it's a historical moment where Master Grandi pays his respect to Master Lecastel, and it's soooo coool!

This is a true, warm tribute! Thank you, Giorgio! Thank you!
Excellent scene, beautiful girls, I hope you'll do it more often, maybe with well-endowed (JYL-lookalike) studs yelling "Beeeeeammm" next time! :)

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:50 pm
by guaguancogomez
Is a top director. But even most important is a person that really understand the porn businees. Thats why he has beeen so sucessful.

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:30 pm
by Jocke
How do I know who has directed a scene?

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:41 pm
by Jocke
Is Sineplex Classic by Giorgio?
If so then I say YES!
I have bought almost all of them.

I believe some of the older videos where better like this one : https://www.legalporno.com/watch/189/pissmyassoff_scene_1467
It is a slower less frantic tempo and the models seem hornier. They are focused on the sex act and not on acting or moaning. I also don't like heavy pumping.
It is important to me that the girls are treated with respect and that they are active, not just passively receiving.

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:41 pm
by partychief331
He is awfully good for sure. He loses minor pts from me due to the lack of changes in location/sets but that is nbd. I would love to see mor stuff like the Clockwork series

All time faves:

Giorgio
Rocco
Clark
JYL
Gazzman(I think? I have alot of Private scenes that I believe he is the director and I love the Harmony stuff)

Early favorite was John Leslie. But that is kinda like Styx being your first favorite band. Once you hear Pink Floyd...Styx doesn't have much to offer

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:21 pm
by Giorgio Grandi
Yes, the profit a producer would achieve with 5 scene in 90is is probably the profit a normal producer would achieve now with 15 scenes and with tripe investment on each scene

dap-addict wrote:.. Its difficult to compare 1998 and 2018, though.

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:25 pm
by dap-addict
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Yes, the profit a producer would achieve with 5 scene in 90is is probably the profit a normal producer would achieve now with 15 scenes and with tripe investment on each scene

dap-addict wrote:.. Its difficult to compare 1998 and 2018, though.

:mad: :( :confused:
This said I was aware than JYL had the luck to shoot in the real Golden Age of Europorn, whereas now times have become really hard and only the best new with excellent ideas survive.
Can you maybe tell us how much you usually get out of an average GIO scene?
And how much you'd need to cover investment in the next one?

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:07 pm
by Giorgio Grandi
This is very hard to say, you cant think about "profit for scene", more about profit on 3-5 yearly base. I am not "shooting and selling" but I have investment, depreciation of capital goods, employees, holiday to handle, working permissions, etc. As we are close to the end of the year, I have a clear picture of the situation and it is positive, could be better as several scene did not even reach the production cost, but this is part of the game. Also in the last month we invested in a better logistic, energy saving and electric cars. All of this will give benefits in 2-4 years and some tax cut this year and next year.
This the the power of LP: stability. It gives us the opportunity to run a real company instead than have wandering relationship with distributors/website that change their mind every second day.

If Im a good director, it because LP gives me the opportunity to be so. Also, just to say, LP is handing out in europe a lot of money (through the studios) not only to performers and agency but also a lot of "induced work" which is a consequence of production.
Sometimes I think about the people that point the finger on LP for every single problem in europe just as habit, without to understand how much LP sustains the industry more than anyone else and I ask myself how is possible to be so dam stupid. The production of LP generated more "known models" than anyone else and everyone gets a benefit from this.

dap-addict wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Yes, the profit a producer would achieve with 5 scene in 90is is probably the profit a normal producer would achieve now with 15 scenes and with tripe investment on each scene

dap-addict wrote:.. Its difficult to compare 1998 and 2018, though.

:mad: :( :confused:
This said I was aware than JYL had the luck to shoot in the real Golden Age of Europorn, whereas now times have become really hard and only the best new with excellent ideas survive.
Can you maybe tell us how much you usually get out of an average GIO scene?
And how much you'd need to cover investment in the next one?

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:40 am
by zeusanalfreak299
No he isn“t! The are people like Luis who have the potential to become some day...

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:48 am
by science.education
He is by far the best ever for wet scenes I just wish he would do way more of them...

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:15 am
by Jocke

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:22 am
by dap-addict
dap-addict wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Yes, the profit a producer would achieve with 5 scene in 90is is probably the profit a normal producer would achieve now with 15 scenes and with tripe investment on each scene

dap-addict wrote:.. Its difficult to compare 1998 and 2018, though.

:mad: :( :confused:
This said I was aware than JYL had the luck to shoot in the real Golden Age of Europorn, whereas now times have become really hard and only the best new with excellent ideas survive.
Can you maybe tell us how much you usually get out of an average GIO scene?
And how much you'd need to cover investment in the next one?


Giorgio Grandi wrote:This is very hard to say, you cant think about "profit for scene", more about profit on 3-5 yearly base. I am not "shooting and selling" but I have investment, depreciation of capital goods, employees, holiday to handle, working permissions, etc. As we are close to the end of the year, I have a clear picture of the situation and it is positive, could be better as several scene did not even reach the production cost, but this is part of the game. Also in the last month we invested in a better logistic, energy saving and electric cars. All of this will give benefits in 2-4 years and some tax cut this year and next year.

So we will have you here also in 2022-3 still. Great! :D :cool:
Btw whats the deal with electric cars?
How many?
:) :confused:

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:38 pm
by Giorgio Grandi
I will be happy to be here until xxx say so, than I will probably move on and close the "porn chapter" of my life. I strongly doubt I would continue my job in porn with someone else, I had what I would have called in the past "the opportunity of a life" a couple of years ago with a major American company, but I decided to stay with LP as LP is the real opportunity. That american company watched what I shoot for LP and I became enough good for them, but just few month before I wasnt.
So I believe I got this opportunity because of LP, xxxbelieved in me long before I started the Giorgio Grandi studio.

I think loyalty makes the difference in any industry, I am not going to make a mistake on this,

When I will have time I will write here my first contact with xxx, it was smt special.

About electric cars: we already got a Nissan Leaf, base model and "ex-demo", nothing fancy and for a good price, our old skoda is almost death. Yesterday we closed a deal for a second one, but today they just told me the delivery time changed, so I dont exactly know how we do it.

dap-addict wrote:So we will have you here also in 2022-3 still. Great! :D :cool:
Btw whats the deal with electric cars?
How many?
:) :confused:

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:27 pm
by dap-addict
Wow, Nissan Leaf! :)
How does it perform in town traffic? Over-land?
You buy them because it means also tax refund by Czech gvt, yes? Does it pay?

Giorgio Grandi wrote:I will be happy to be here until xxx say so, than I will probably move on and close the "porn chapter" of my life. I strongly doubt I would continue my job in porn with someone else,
(...)
I think loyalty makes the difference in any industry, I am not going to make a mistake on this,

Loyalty is the core!
If they treat you fair, you treat them fair, you try to do your best and get the best in return.
I'll never understand why so many people dont get those simple rules of good business. :mad: With porn models you sure can sing a sad song about... :( Some are just too young, some never learned work ethics... The more important is to have a biz partner being really fair, helping you to grow and let you just make a good job! :)

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:54 pm
by Kaderon
ryanfury wrote:1. Giorgio Grandi
2. .
3. .
4. .
5. Greg Lansky




Probably the two biggest names when it comes to copy & paste porn. But at least GGs stuff isn't so completely boring.

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:00 pm
by Giorgio Grandi
Im not sure as we got it yesterday, we need time. For sure we save about $1000/month on fuel

dap-addict wrote:Wow, Nissan Leaf! :)
How does it perform in town traffic? Over-land?
You buy them because it means also tax refund by Czech gvt, yes? Does it pay?


Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:03 pm
by dap-addict
:cool:
Is it a town car only or does it also drive fine outside Prague on motorway?

Giorgio, thanks for your clear words about loyalty! Cant wait for that story how you met xxx first time.

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:56 pm
by magizi877
1000 Euros on fuel? A month?!

Holy shit, lol. Were you driving a Bugatti?

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:31 pm
by Giorgio Grandi
Here the diesel is about 1.45$/lt.

magizi87 wrote:1000 Euros on fuel? A month?!

Holy shit, lol. Were you driving a Bugatti?

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:22 pm
by Jocke
Come on!

I'm giving you praise for these fantastic scenes and you respond about your Nissan Leaf!!!

Please tell us instead about the shooting, the girls and the follow up :)


https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34799/ ... nal_gio851

https://www.legalporno.com/watch/34805/ ... ial_gio853

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:41 am
by kidloco2
olie wrote:Yes he is.


That's a very subjective view, although one way or the other, one can't talk about porn without saying "Giorgio Grandi". That's for sure. So yes.

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:45 pm
by dap-addict
dap-addict wrote:For me, I am a huge fan or Giorgio Grandi, but maybe Jean-Yves LeCastel is still bigger for me.
Its difficult to compare 1998 and 2018, though.


An Italian reminder of JYL's famous kuckmal style: :D :cool:
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Hopefully even more of this porn school @ GIO soon!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:55 pm
by blublubeacha
giorgio is the greatest porn director of all time because he shoots TAP scenes

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:04 am
by CanadianCouple
You guys should consider Mason in your top 10 list. She filmed some amazing DAP scenes with girls that don't do DAP and didn't do many outside of with Mason.

SHe makes good porn and gets a lot out of the girls.

She is in my top 5 for sure.

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:39 pm
by greenfunk727
Giorgio is certainly one of the best. What I like about Giorgio is that his style has evolved and improved. He loves anal porn and he sees what works, what fans like and responds to feed back. I think to make the best porn you need to re-watch a scene and analyse the scene, not just shoot and forget. I think that GIO does this and has over the past few years come from making good porn to starting to become a legend. Let's see what the future holds but I hope GIO continues to push boundaries.

People on this thread have talked about JYL and the kuckmal. I loved his work and his kuckmal really got me in to anal porn but GIO is now on a different planet compared to that. Where as before you had maybe a DP and some gape shots you now have 7on1 Double anal gangbangs with 0% pussy etc. The porn that is being made now compared to the past is the difference between a student movie vs a Hollywood blockbuster & GIO is fucking Disney and paramount all rolled in to one.

GIO without doubt makes the best gape porn and for that sir, I salute you :cool: :D

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:35 pm
by dap-addict
Very good post, green funk!
Of course JYL and GIO are two very different stages of porn. But than JYL's Matador series for Private and what Andy Casanova now starts shooting for GIO or Giorgio Grandi could take over from Andy inspired by him and JYL could be closer actually.
Of course in terms of DAP content we have not max. every third scene a DAP like in Matador but basically every scene = DAP with GIO, but what I am talking about is still caring to include JYLs kuckmal tricks into GIO's new videos. I am talking about classical kuckmal rollbacks, exposing gapes helped by the girls well groomed fingers and fingernails etc.
Here there is still something to learn from JYL.

Re: Is Giorgio Grandi the greatest porn director of all time?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:56 pm
by Giorgio Grandi
Andy directs only the scene with Acting, but as she is around on the stage and we have programs in italy, he makes some pictures of girl with his t-shirt for marketing purpose.