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In 2012-13 sales were basically non-existent.

You can't grab a new girl and throw her into a 10man DAP gangbang right away. They need more "normal" scenes before that.

But our users buy mostly super hard sex which of course makes it very difficult.

More often than not more simple scenes receive very little support and studios simply don't risk it anymore. The ticket system means that only the most wanted stuff is viable.

Most of what was produced years ago wouldn't sell today. There was a huge shift towards high Xon1 + DAP/Piss. Everything else is very risky, at least with euro girls. And then you still want them with 3 monster BBC + DP minimum...

When you do 1 overpaid scene like Tushy with 1 guy of course you can get any girl.

I am against the constant focus on Dap , piss and giant cocks .
If a girl takes 3 to 4 normal sized cocks for Dp action , I´m happy .
Then also alternating between really beautiful ( magazine cover - like Anissa Kate ) and " real " girls from around the corner make a nice mix .

The shift towards extreme content is noticeable. years ago a No Rest For the Ass video looked crazy compared to everything else but today it's just a normal scene.
Giorgio had a huge influence on the direction that porn is going but there was extreme content since the 90's.
Rocco was doing nasty shit when he started shooting for Stagliano, with Kelly Stafford and tons of young, beautiful eastern European models.
Jay Sin was shooting really extreme stuff for LP like fifteen years ago and all his models were gorgeous!

Today porn models are not good looking at all, and it's not only a trend at Legal Porno.
Evil Angel has the same problem with new models, the girls are mostly goth types with tattoos all over their body or chubby girls that are mostly 5/10 looks.
Tushy and Vixen are shooting girls that have the same good looks as LP had ten years ago. Except their scenes are slow and boring.
It seems like porn models are getting spoiled by new studios like Tushy because they are paying them much more than traditional porn salary.
So a Russian girl who used to make 300 bucks for doing a DAP and bukkake for LP is now making like 3000 bucks for doing a slow anal scene with one guy. The result is that these studios are destroying the competition and good looking girls don't want to do a scene for anyone else.

Maybe the reason you didn't get as many sales back in 2012-13 isnt because of the content, but because the site wasn't that well known.
The girls back then were far prettier and there was a good variety of scenes from Milk Junkies, Piss, Kreme, Dap, Dp, gangbang, orgy and lez.
Know it is just constant DAP gangbangs, sure you get better sales then before you were well known, but the qaulity has gone. There is simply no risk taking anymore.

Cynewulf30 wrote:Maybe the reason you didn't get as many sales back in 2012-13 isnt because of the content, but because the site wasn't that well known.
The girls back then were far prettier and there was a good variety of scenes from Milk Junkies, Piss, Kreme, Dap, Dp, gangbang, orgy and lez.
Know it is just constant DAP gangbangs, sure you get better sales then before you were well known, but the qaulity has gone. There is simply no risk taking anymore.

This is mostly true but also girls used to make less money for scenes. Now they are pretty much spoiled because the market is overflooded with 5/10 models, so if you are even a 7/10 looks you have a big chance of shooting for US producers.
Gone are the days when we had Wiska, Alysa, Logan, Prescilla, Cherry Jul, Natasha, Jullie Silver, Sasha Rose etc.. etc.

It has a variety of reasons.
And sure also the one given by xxx. (see below).
Apart from this escorts getting bigger and escort agencies dominating scouting in Russia and Ukraine.
Also EU-accession and freedom of movement in places like Czech and Hungary, also economic prosperity growth of these places in the last 5-6 years.
etc.

Btw, quite often discussed here in other threads.

xxx wrote:You can't grab a new girl and throw her into a 10man DAP gangbang right away. They need more "normal" scenes before that.
But our users buy mostly super hard sex which of course makes it very difficult.
More often than not more simple scenes receive very little support and studios simply don't risk it anymore. The ticket system means that only the most wanted stuff is viable.
Most of what was produced years ago wouldn't sell today. There was a huge shift towards high Xon1 + DAP/Piss. Everything else is very risky, at least with euro girls.

How about that way out, xxx: You closer include DDF into LP and thus you have a working soft, so called "normal", layout for LP. Such content sells again and girls can grow step by step again into LP scenes we have today because they sell today. Vanilla customers thus finance anal hardcore productions.
I am thus forgeing your GlamPorn action into something really useful for LP, too.

I disagree with the main point itself.
I don't think Cherry Jul or Alysa are even as attractive as Jolee Love, Avi Love, May Thai, Kira Thorn or many others who are very active right now.
I think you are viewing the past with rose-tinted spectacles while also viewing your very favourites from the past with the average of today (which is what people have always done with pop music)

Where are the Lucie Wildes, Marina Viscontis, and Shion Coopers now? Angel WIcky is the only really good naturally busty minimum tattoo goddess they shoot.

Sir Noel wrote:I disagree with the main point itself.
I don't think Cherry Jul or Alysa are even as attractive as Jolee Love, Avi Love, May Thai, Kira Thorn or many others who are very active right now.
I think you are viewing the past with rose-tinted spectacles while also viewing your very favourites from the past with the average of today (which is what people have always done with pop music)

I'm sorry but if you don't think Cherry Jul is as attractive as the girls you listed - all of whom are gorgeous - then you need your eyes tested!

xxx wrote:In 2012-13 sales were basically non-existent.

You can't grab a new girl and throw her into a 10man DAP gangbang right away. They need more "normal" scenes before that.

But our users buy mostly super hard sex which of course makes it very difficult.

More often than not more simple scenes receive very little support and studios simply don't risk it anymore. The ticket system means that only the most wanted stuff is viable.

Most of what was produced years ago wouldn't sell today. There was a huge shift towards high Xon1 + DAP/Piss. Everything else is very risky, at least with euro girls. And then you still want them with 3 monster BBC + DP minimum...

When you do 1 overpaid scene like Tushy with 1 guy of course you can get any girl.

Tushy is the most boring shit I have ever seen. Sure, chicks are hot, but that is it.

If you like watching hot girls anal tip fucked at a agonizingly slow pace... Tushy is for you.

If you like sterile scenes with way too many cuts... Tushy is for you.

If you are busy, or in a hurry, the scenes are easy to fast forward... Tushy is for you.

If it is late night and you can't sleep, or want to comatose yourself on a Sunday afternoon... Tushy is for you.

Did I miss anything?

JimmyDee wrote:About five to six years ago, the babes on this site were smokin hot . I'm talking two, three fit, skinny Russian girls in every video. This is going back around the time of the White Shit and PMAO series.
Ever since then I've noticed a downward curve in the babes department. I mean, and in all fair honesty, looking at today's New Scenes page, out of twenty four vids, the only one that has a good looking lass is the one with Janice Griffith, and maybe Stella Cox if you're in to 6-es and 7's.
Will this trend continue down the slope of no return, and if so, for how long? One, two, three years?

Do LP have some grandiose plans to refresh the talent pool?
Who is to blame? The producers or the agents? Maybe both?

I have a big hope that LP will rise again to the level of circa 2012. The way it was when gorgeous babes were doing awesome, nasty, raunchy shit.
Now it seems, we either get gorgeous or raunchy. Not both at the same time.

You forget how bad the economy was around 2013.

Bad economy = hot waitresses and hot girls in porn doing nasty things.
Good economy = Milfs, ugly waitresses, mediocre porn talent and a lot of soft core and pussy only garbage.

You will have to wait for the economy to take a piss again. Good news is, we are overdue for a recession. 2023-2025 should be some awesome time for porn. (my prediction)

dap-addict wrote:It has a variety of reasons.
And sure also the one given by xxx. (see below).
Apart from this escorts getting bigger and escort agencies dominating scouting in Russia and Ukraine.
Also EU-accession and freedom of movement in places like Czech and Hungary, also economic prosperity growth of these places in the last 5-6 years.

Forgot to mention that Ukraine/Belarus/Russian citizens are meanwhile invited in masses to EU for "normal" work which creates also additional other options for porn.
Also traveling has become pretty common and cheap. Thus porn studio offers to travel to nice sandy beaches and interesting towns in Western Europe are not that attractive anymore.

drevokocur66 wrote:

xxx wrote:In 2012-13 sales were basically non-existent.

You can't grab a new girl and throw her into a 10man DAP gangbang right away. They need more "normal" scenes before that.

But our users buy mostly super hard sex which of course makes it very difficult.

More often than not more simple scenes receive very little support and studios simply don't risk it anymore. The ticket system means that only the most wanted stuff is viable.

Most of what was produced years ago wouldn't sell today. There was a huge shift towards high Xon1 + DAP/Piss. Everything else is very risky, at least with euro girls. And then you still want them with 3 monster BBC + DP minimum...

When you do 1 overpaid scene like Tushy with 1 guy of course you can get any girl.

Tushy is the most boring shit I have ever seen. Sure, chicks are hot, but that is it.

If you like watching hot girls anal tip fucked at a agonizingly slow pace... Tushy is for you.

If you like sterile scenes with way too many cuts... Tushy is for you.

If you are busy, or in a hurry, the scenes are easy to fast forward... Tushy is for you.

If it is late night and you can't sleep, or want to comatose yourself on a Sunday afternoon... Tushy is for you.

Did I miss anything?

Tushy should be the only porn legally allowed. Its has a very intimate and romantic-like vibe. Like sex should be. Not a bunch of circus acts, pissing, and spitting, dap and tap etc. wtf .

skeeter23 wrote:

drevokocur66 wrote:

xxx wrote:In 2012-13 sales were basically non-existent.

You can't grab a new girl and throw her into a 10man DAP gangbang right away. They need more "normal" scenes before that.

But our users buy mostly super hard sex which of course makes it very difficult.

More often than not more simple scenes receive very little support and studios simply don't risk it anymore. The ticket system means that only the most wanted stuff is viable.

Most of what was produced years ago wouldn't sell today. There was a huge shift towards high Xon1 + DAP/Piss. Everything else is very risky, at least with euro girls. And then you still want them with 3 monster BBC + DP minimum...

When you do 1 overpaid scene like Tushy with 1 guy of course you can get any girl.

Tushy is the most boring shit I have ever seen. Sure, chicks are hot, but that is it.

If you like watching hot girls anal tip fucked at a agonizingly slow pace... Tushy is for you.

If you like sterile scenes with way too many cuts... Tushy is for you.

If you are busy, or in a hurry, the scenes are easy to fast forward... Tushy is for you.

If it is late night and you can't sleep, or want to comatose yourself on a Sunday afternoon... Tushy is for you.

Did I miss anything?

Tushy should be the only porn legally allowed. Its has a very intimate and romantic-like vibe. Like sex should be. Not a bunch of circus acts, pissing, and spitting, dap and tap etc. wtf .

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