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Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:47 pm
by dap-addict
I have no statistics, but most LP girls are still from Russia.
And this 7 years after Putin drove SOS (Sineplex) and GIO (nr4ta) into exile in Prague and with xxx help they found LP, the most successful porn provider of the past decade.

Local girls got an important share of course, but Prague models were pretty spoiled in 2012, and sometimes I think too many still are today.
Some of them dont turn up on set, some call in 15min before to inform they can't come because their dog feels ill etc.
Some agencies started even legal action against some of these individuals because losses get out of hand.

On the other hand, EU porn started with Ukrainian imports around 2002 in Budapest, a few years later also Russian talent started to flock into the Southern porn capital. If I recall right the sadly forgotten French EA genius director Christophe Clark was the first deal breaker here.

Now, to make it clear: Good performance on porn set and reliability (to turn up at work, take tests serious etc) doest depend on nationality and passport of course!
Its basically about work ethics.
And of course certain types of girls are more asked for than others, for instance Slavic type in Europe over latin/Spanish or Scandinavian/German features.

Now 2016 it was I think that Proxy Page moved from US to Amsterdam and than to Prague and she started those US porn girl imports basically.
Positive side effect was enlarging user basis to US market.
Meanwhile LP has an own small studio in LA, a contract guy in Miami and transfers more and more US girls for 1-3 porn work weeks to Prague.
LP directors have highly praised US girls professionally, plus of course is also that once they are in Prague they do wanna work there because thats what they flew over for.
Very seldom US girls in EU show themselves as flakes - really opposed to local Czech/Hungarian girls.

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Avi Love - the most successful US import in 2018 so far.

Bts, sales based amonst Prague shot scenes in 2018 so far proportions are such in top 10 selling scenes:
US imports: 3
local Czech girls: 2
Russian imports: 2
EU imports (GB, E, I etc): 1

These are some basic facts.
Ideally we'd discuss what we think of Czech/Russian-Ukrainian/US girls respective performance, on-set presence and overall esthetics.
And ideally LP directors would come here and show us their POV why they book less and less local Czech girls and more US girls instead etc.

What do you think?

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:53 pm
by blublubeacha
i really like us girls. i also like euro girls. i think a good mix is the best for lp

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:18 am
by Iddaoeeok
I love Czech girls but there's less of them these days :( . Historically the problem with Russian models is that they had a tendency to vanish after a few scenes or else do a enormous number of scenes of variable quality in a relatively short space of time, get totally burned out and then vanish, Ukranian women are :eek: :eek: :eek: :p :p :p :p . I'm generally not interested in US girls.

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:35 am
by Angel Eyes
Maybe because I live in U.S., I prefer just about anything to U.S. girls. ---at least Caucasian girls that is. For me, U.S. girls seem too vanilla. Of course, when it comes to exotics (Asian, Ebony, Latina), I'll take them from wherever we're lucky enough to get them. :D

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:18 am
by drevokocur66
Iddaoeeok wrote:I love Czech girls but there's less of them these days :( . Historically the problem with Russian models is that they had a tendency to vanish after a few scenes or else do a enormous number of scenes of variable quality in a relatively short space of time, get totally burned out and then vanish, Ukranian women are :eek: :eek: :eek: :p :p :p :p . I'm generally not interested in US girls.


Spot on.

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:39 pm
by ayrtight
Bring all types of girls --- other EU countries , Asia , Latinas , Beurettes etc

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:04 am
by iucundavi
I adore the Slavic girls on LP, particularly the dark-haired East Slavic (Russian, Ukrainian, etc.) women, although I appreciate that LP is featuring more American & Latina girls!

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:06 am
by fric-geyyger
I do not like US girls! Their enthusiasm in sex is absolutely unnatural in my opinion. They are like robots, and even not of high quality!

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:16 am
by Ichimaru
Personally, I am strongly against the use of more American models on LP. When I want to watch American talent I look to American producers such as evil angel or Jules Jordan.

When I subscribe to European producers I want to watch European talent. As to what part of Europe they come from I don't care as long as they are young and attractive.

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:32 pm
by Ichimaru
Saint Petersburg did seem to be like the new Prague or Budapest for a so Putin is the biggest enemy to euro porn at the moment lol.

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:15 am
by mr mystica
East european girls are by far the best. Porn where crap before 2002 (wich is you said was the small start of the east european, russian teenage beauties- era in porn).
Think about it. How many new girls can compare themselfs to Sasha Rose, Abby, Nessa Shine, Stacy Snake, Henessy, Jasmin (Sandra), Jessica Miller, Foxi Di, Lilo, Tanata, Lili Lamour, Alice Miller and i can go on forever. Just look at sites like Teencore and see the list.

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:22 am
by Giorgio Grandi
Most of USA girl already have a base of followers/customers that newcomers do not have or that in general euromodels do not have

So, I am at the point that a milf looking american girl would sell better than her "hypothetical double" from Czech. On this you can add that whatever doesnt have DAP with a new comer doesnt sell properly unless the model is very, very cute (Nicole Black level).

All the rest is small talk

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:37 am
by getitnow408
Gosh, I am very sad to hear that because I would very mush hesitate to buy an American teen (so fake) and I would never buy an american milf scene
well I guess Euro Porn has become US retirement home porn and it's disapointing even though I understand fully your reasoning from a financial standpoint

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:59 pm
by dap-addict
Giorgio Grandi wrote:On this you can add that whatever doesnt have DAP with a new comer doesnt sell properly unless the model is very, very cute (Nicole Black level).
All the rest is small talk

Still, isn't it cheaper to scout a reasonably cute Ukrainian teen willing to DAP in her 1st porn scene than import a high priced US MILF or near milf?

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:26 am
by Iddaoeeok
Seems like American porn consumers want to see American girls - or rather American women, to be more accurate - why that should be, I have no idea. Giorgio is only following where the money is, which is entirely sensible from his point of view, but is a dead end for those of who find US porn and pornstars, with some notable exceptions, largely unbearable. The opening up of LP to the American market is financially a triumph but, in virtually every other regard, is a disaster.

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:04 pm
by VBT_2
European earlier, USA now.

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:42 am
by Ichimaru
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Most of USA girl already have a base of followers/customers that newcomers do not have or that in general euromodels do not have

So, I am at the point that a milf looking american girl would sell better than her "hypothetical double" from Czech. On this you can add that whatever doesnt have DAP with a new comer doesnt sell properly unless the model is very, very cute (Nicole Black level).

All the rest is small talk


Ok, I can see why you are doing it. I guess all I can say is that it is sad that there are not more girls like Nicole Black.

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:22 pm
by Baiken
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Most of USA girl already have a base of followers/customers that newcomers do not have or that in general euromodels do not have


lol

<url removed>

one month ago : 200 followers ...(i remember)

now : 10 000 followers :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

how ???

simple... she shoots for tushy... :p That's because Greg lansky's frequently the one behind their success

newcomers ? you're the one behind their success !

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:23 pm
by cliffwolcott
I don't know, there are nice sluts all around the world.
However, I agree about girls in Czech or Russia are magnificient.

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:10 pm
by ayrtight
Favourite girls worldwide : South America , then Indian Subcontinent .


___ More frequent in porn , according to my taste :

Us girls ( great bcuz of Latina and Native american admixture )

Spanish girls ( great bcuz of Moorish admix )

Hungarian girls ( great bcuz of Romani/gyp... and Turkic admixture )

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:47 pm
by kidloco2
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Most of USA girl already have a base of followers/customers that newcomers do not have or that in general euromodels do not have

Isn't this the reason why even solid performing newcomers have low sales? That would be very alarming phenomenon that the content itself and girls' looks are not the key factors when deciding which scene to buy. :eek:
That's unheard from my porn experience, but it's in context with social media popularity being the decision factor.

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:24 am
by Ichimaru
I just find it sad that porn produced in Europe is increasingly featuring us performers. For me watching European talent was always the differentiating factor. That being said I did become a huge fan of American performer Avi Love through LP.

However, I did make my first Avi love purchase thinking she was European because of her green eyes and overall European look about her. She had not been brought to my attention through any of the American produced content I watch.

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:52 am
by kidloco2
^Did you notice US girls in EU made scenes perform much closer to European porn than EU girls performing in US made scenes?

Kinda intersting. Oh, BTW there's nothing like native American, every American has something in blood from Europe.

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:37 pm
by dap-addict
Well, there are native Americans (Indians), but very very few in porn; think I came across 1 native american mixed girl so far. I am not an US girl specialist, though. ;)

But more important true is for sure that US girls working in EU shoot harder porn scenes than back home. :cool:
While EU girls working in US nowadays do usually much more vanilla scenes. :(

Re: Czech vs. Russian/Ukrainian vs. US-girls

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:04 pm
by kidloco2
Examples like Anna de ville, Samantha Rone, Syren or Ivy prove there are awesome us girls without typical us girl "drama queen" attitude. IMHO not even
most of them are like this. They're quite normal.