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Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:14 pm
by dpconnoisseur1
The poll is not to get rid of one or the other but more to see where members would like more of a focus. I believe any site without a constant influx of newbies is going to die a slow painful death but as I say that how much is too much. LP is niche site that caters to more demanding audience wanting to see beautiful models do DP, DA, DV and more so except for that rare special model 1on1 scenes don't sell well. With that point in mind do we prefer a greater focus on new or proven models. The assumption is that the proven models can deliver on all the niches LP members enjoy while the new model would have some struggles. I know that the assumption doesn't always hold up as Giorgio keeps finding models like Tera Link or Monika Wild that are willing and can do it all.
Newbies - defined as new to intense sex acts, not young
Proven - defined as known to have done and can handle intense sex acts, not old

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:13 pm
by harbriarose
I really think LP needs a balance. So much newbies girls makes the site boring and it's not fault of the girls. Newbies can't get pushed so much her limits, that will transform the site in a raping one, not cool at all. On the contrary, so much hardcore proven performers can make the site boring too, because the scenes will turn repetitive, and again, that's not fault of the girls. The fault comes for the scene release schedule and following that, the shooting schedule could affect also.

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:49 pm
by dpconnoisseur1
Obviously striking a balance is best but more often than not I get tired of seeing so many unforgettable while missing more special newbies like Lady Dee Imageor not being able to get enough of a proven performer like Blanche Bradburry.Image

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:52 pm
by dpconnoisseur1
Poll is very even across the choices, so no real extrapolation can be made of member preference right now.

Image I thought LP customers would have strongly leaned towards one of the categories :cool: Image

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:06 pm
by magizi877
IMO, as of right now, a little bit over half the movies released should have a known girl and the other
slightly smaller half should have a newbie.

Cause if you take a look at the data, all 3 options have about 1 / 3 of the votes.
But one of the options, the third one says "I don't really care who does it, as long as "X" act is performed"
So that third option is NOISE, it doesn't matter. You want to know the ratio of Newbies vs Proven.

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:08 pm
by cliffwolcott
Newbies, definitely.

It's much more interesting.
The proven performers:
it's just "ok, I exactly know what to do, how to place myself, where to look, etc...' it's more "I come to shoot, we do it, I take my money, done".

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:09 pm
by harbriarose
70% proven performers - 30% new performers. What do you think?

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:50 pm
by Kriss1986
As long as girl can provide act at highest level I don't care if she is newbie or proven. But I would like also to avoid situation of "one scene" actresses.

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:06 pm
by dpconnoisseur1
magizi87 wrote:IMO, as of right now, a little bit over half the movies released should have a known girl and the other
slightly smaller half should have a newbie.

Cause if you take a look at the data, all 3 options have about 1 / 3 of the votes.
But one of the options, the third one says "I don't really care who does it, as long as "X" act is performed"
So that third option is NOISE, it doesn't matter. You want to know the ratio of Newbies vs Proven.


I hear you and understand the point you are trying to make but I disagree with your assessment of the 3rd option being noise. My reasoning, not caring is valid and means your satisfied with the current output and ratio LP produces of New and Proven performers whatever percentage it currently is. Ask me a couple of months ago and that would have been my choice but now with more models seeming to be one and done, reduction in scenes released and/or forgettable performers IMO (I won't give names) and I have gotten annoyed. So now I wonder why not more content of those proven performers (my vote) and those special newbies that (1) draw a buzz from the thread or (2) get great sales of their 1st released scene (making sure to take the niche into consideration).

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:57 pm
by cliffwolcott
I would add it's always better IMO to discover newbies rather than confirmed ones

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:43 am
by DoubleOrNothing
I'd judge a girl on 4 things:

1) Novelty
2) Ability
3) Looks
4) Sluttiness

I would ideally like to see

Scene 1) DP
Scene 2) double anal
Scene 3) something extreme like triple penetration, piss, etc.

If she only scores on novelty, then I''m not interested if she doesn't start doing extreme stuff fast, e.g if she won't do a double anal second scene.The novelty wears off quickly unless you're willing to up the ante with every scene. Plain, boring and prudish (by LP standards :D ) are not worth more than one DP.

If she's a great performer, on the other hand, then I'd give her a bit more time, enjoy her "ssofter" (by LP standards :P) scenes and hope she's willing to do more extreme stuff.

If she's really good looking, I'd give her the most leeway IF she's willing to learn, and really keep her around if she does go on to extreme stuff. A prime example would be Timea Bella. She started off pretty awkward, but it was worth it in the end. That's why I'd still give my left nut to see Goldie shoot more scenes.

Of course any girl who scores on all of those things is pure GOLD *cough* *cough*/

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:49 am
by DoubleOrNothing
cliffwolcott wrote:I would add it's always better IMO to discover newbies rather than confirmed ones


On one hand, yes, but on the other if the newbies aren't shooting scenes like this:

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I want to keep the golden oldies around.

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:41 am
by Ass2Die4464
All about the proven girls for me! I like seeing the new wave of scenes that include DP, DPP, DAP and TP and I doubt a newbie will be capable of that in their first scene which is a skip for me! I agree fully with the below:
DoubleOrNothing wrote:If she's really good looking, I'd give her the most leeway IF she's willing to learn, and really keep her around if she does go on to extreme stuff.


I'm not saying every girls has to do the scenes I described above but it is a sure way to get my money. It is to expensive to buy some of these newbie 1on1 scenes or other tame scenes as compared to other sites. I skipped these girls even though they are my type because I'm not going to waste six tickets getting vanilla scenes that I can get the same scene type 5x cheaper on other sites.

Sofy Soul https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32094/ ... oul_sal013
Jessica Lincoln https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32023/ ... yle_sal012
Via Lasciva https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32119/ ... pov_sal016

I consider LP price per scene an indication of a more demanding member base taste. Something that truly believe 9 of 10 times are performed better by proven performers! Although skinnier than I normally like give me the beauty, sophistication and performance of an Arwen Gold and Belle Claire any day over a newbie with there deer in headlight stare.

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:25 am
by DoubleOrNothing
Ass2Die4464 wrote:All about the proven girls for me! I like seeing the new wave of scenes that include DP, DPP, DAP and TP ...

I'm not saying every girls has to do the scenes I described above but it is a sure way to get my money.


IMO a DP is absolutely mandatory, no exceptions.

Filling multiple holes simultaneously is what MMF group sex is all about, and MMF group sex is the heart and soul of hardcore porn.

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:59 am
by magizi877
I'm just saying, that's how I would read the poll, if it were up to me: 9 days would be scenes with proven girls, 1 day would be newbie. Maybe even 19 scenes proven, 1 scene newbie. :cool:

Just look at the dudes, they are great because they do this ALL the time. That's how you get good at motor skillz. Repetition.

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:16 pm
by Kriss1986
magizi87 wrote:I'm just saying, that's how I would read the poll, if it were up to me: 9 days would be scenes with proven girls, 1 day would be newbie. Maybe even 19 scenes proven, 1 scene newbie. :cool:

Just look at the dudes, they are great because they do this ALL the time. That's how you get good at motor skillz. Repetition.


It makes sense :).

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:10 pm
by seedfeeder
DoubleOrNothing wrote:
cliffwolcott wrote:I would add it's always better IMO to discover newbies rather than confirmed ones


On one hand, yes, but on the other if the newbies aren't shooting scenes like this:

Image
I want to keep the golden oldies around.


I'd say "Horses for Courses". Meaning: Both are important. Of course I always want to see fresh talent and watch them develop. But dont start too early. If a girl can't even handle airtight - forget about her. On the other side I really love to watch well trained sluts that over what I want to se: Anal Fisting, Prolapse, DAP, TAP, Spitting, Squirting Pissing....

Re: Newbies VS Proven performers

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:10 pm
by Kriss1986
seedfeeder wrote:
DoubleOrNothing wrote:
cliffwolcott wrote:I would add it's always better IMO to discover newbies rather than confirmed ones


On one hand, yes, but on the other if the newbies aren't shooting scenes like this:

Image
I want to keep the golden oldies around.


I'd say "Horses for Courses". Meaning: Both are important. Of course I always want to see fresh talent and watch them develop. But dont start too early. If a girl can't even handle airtight - forget about her. On the other side I really love to watch well trained sluts that over what I want to se: Anal Fisting, Prolapse, DAP, TAP, Spitting, Squirting Pissing....


Always the most important is quality and action at highest level :).