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I hope they don't keep getting American girls in seen it all before with them and they bore me to be honest and I think they are over the top with there moans at times I'm not saying the girls are ugly they're certainly not but seen them all before I came on this site to see hot Euro girls myself

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definitely agree. I'm wildly into european girls. seriously into them. and almost always (90% time) prefer them to american performers. more beautiful, more character and generally far bolder and more passionate anything-goes in their performances.
but as a caveat i would say that (personal opinion) it seems only LP gets the best performances out of them. and when an LP girl leaves LP for another euro company i very rarely follow them. non-LP euro porn generally still behind US.

best of the rest are dorcell ('who turned out the lights?') productions.
a lot of former LP girls appear there (anna polina, kimber delice, nataly gold, etc) and they always present their women superbly. tbh they are second to none for that (according to my preferences). I'm seriously fetishy for that classic 1950s high-class parisian call-girl look, and the dorcell girl look (immaculate hair/make up, black silk and chiffon dresses, fine-den seamed stockings, killer patent louboutin stilettos, etc) is as good as it gets on those terms.
LP can be quite hit and miss (subjective, others love it so not dismissing it). but gym kit etc really not for me. and i'm a big Ria fan but that 70s abba jumpsuit she wore in clockwork i couldn't wait to see gone. I appreciate it was a 1970s parody. maybe that's just me being boring.

but the 'dark = arty' thing ruins dorcell scenes for me. they are almost always in half light or shadow and it almost never works.
high contrast & underexposed works in erotic photography because you can light ad-hoc to a static pose, so important detail is not lost. and you can also burn-in and dodge-out wanted/unwanted detail in post production.
but when people are moving that approach rarely suits its purpose, and far too often crucial detail gets lost in the shadows.

and obviously, the action itself is always far tamer than even the softest LP. when i see anna polina (who was superb at LP) in a dorcell it's like watching someone use a ferrari for a milk round. A criminal waste of potential. she never gets out of first gear in a dorcell (and only sometimes in a tainster). anna can run men down to jelly in performances any time she chooses, so it's almost sad to see her trundling through limp dorcell scenes if you found her through LP.
obviously it's her choice (LP is a tough gig and not for all). and if she is happy working at a softer level, all good.
but dorcell wastes her best, imo.



as to all other euro productions, i find other stuff like GGG, MDH, PSS, fake agent etc so cheap and trashy as to be unwatchable. maybe people go there for trashy but it's not for me.

as to the states (for sake of comparison) the major problem i have with a ton of american porn is that far too much seems to favour psychodrama over physical action. titillating the subconscious at the expense of sheer flesh-on-flesh physical content.
i'm a big fan of alex grey but (apart from a couple of scenes for mrstrokesxxx) pretty much everything she has done over the last year has been a variation of cheerleader, babysitter, step-daughter, etc. ankle socks and lollipops.

i'll leave it to individual members to speculate about what that might reveal about the american sexual psyche, or at least alex's place in the american porn market (megan rain and others in same situation). but to me it seems that a lot of it is basically aimed at middle-aged men who fantasize about fucking their daughters friends, frankly. maybe that's where the money is and obviously the business follows the money.
but too often that 'psychological element' is racked up to compensate for some pretty lame an uneventful action. as if US porn punters are more intersted in getting off on the idea than the spectacle.

happily euro porn doesn't really go there (even when it's a comperably weak in production values). the action is the action, not the mind games. and i want action. that's a major US v euro porn difference that leads me to favour the european.

so this post has wandered off at a bit of a tangent (it's the weekend) but basically... yeah. give me LP euro girls morning, noon and night.
the superb anna polina at LP when she used to really go for it...

I have said it numerous times so for the sake of sounding like a broken record, European girls, specifically Eastern European ones, will always be my preference and for so many reasons. They do subtle charm and straddle that shy/slutty dynamic better than any. I am loathe to critiscise my own, as there are some beautiful women in this country but having travelled extensively in Eastern Europe, the women just tend to be in much better shape, physically and how they present themselves. I belong to a peer group of girls who tend to keep themselves in shape, even the yummy mummies but I think thats quite rare. Fitness and health and how to maximise one's natural beauty seems to have been forgotten. Probably generational as English women in the 1960's were lauded for being the most beautiful of the lot.

They just look great on camera, they really do. I look at the likes of Arwen and Belle just to name two and its like watching supermodels be incredibly dirty for your convenience. They also seem to have a sense of liberation in regards to sex and are fearless with it x

Still, I am happy to see some kind of mix but LP's bread and butter MUST always be Eastern Euro performers. I'd lose interest if the demographic change anymore than it did x

When you are at the top of one bussines which i believe is the case of LP at this moment, you start to believe that you are a genius and you can do what ever you want and be successful. I cant hardly understand why having young beautiful and willing to do anything (almost) europen young girls, they deceided to import women in the middle of their carrers to do "normal stuff". If people are buying and prefering this last movies instead of other ones with let me suppose (arwen gold, lita phoenix, dominica or kira thorn among many others) this means that Im out of the general preferences of the market. But, believe me, do not believe that succsess is here to stay just because you have been in the past.

IMO one problem with LP is that everything is put in the same shop window.

So if one director does something different, then all the people who like things just the way they are get worried that it's all changing and they won't get what they want any more.

e.g. When Joachim Kessef introduced his cuckold line there was a lot of hate. But nobody has to buy it if they don't want to.

In reality there are always different styles and genres of porn being produced within LP. IMO the IV series, and now Proxy's American imports, are additions and brand extensions, not replacements for the core strengths of LP in Euro porn.

And hopefully more US customers will come to LP and see what else is here, sales will be good, and then the business will grow and there will be more money to hire more Russian and European talent.

Somebody said success is not here to stay just because you are successful today. That's true which is why LP need to experiment with new things at the same time as maintaining their existing successful model.

I definitely prefer European girls, but, I'm sure American girls are good for business, also lots of people seem to like them, so be it then.

I also prefer European, especially Slavic girls. They are cheaper and better looking than American models who were bringed by LP. Unfortunately we can see a strong lobby for hiring US girls. I bet we have a lot of US members here and they demand US actresses. US market is really big and LP know that. Mixes is nothing wrong but I hope that LP will stay mostly for European Slavic beauties .

As an American, my preference for performers generally skews towards Europeans (Hungary being #1 I believe). That pretty much explains why I'm a current paying member here. However, I still like the American performers (and amateurs) as well. If anything, I'm probably 70-30 split or so. It pretty much depends on what mood I'm in. Also, the industries are quite different in terms of rawness and style still - which is definitely a great thing.

The hyperbole regarding LP bringing in talent from the west is unfounded. When you look at the sample, Europeans dominate this site today and will continue to do so going forward. This will always be LP's bread and butter, but it doesn't hurt to venture out to the other countries. It is just LP diversifying their portfolio. Plus, the earlier works (before becoming LP) had a few American performers as well.

Just from my personal perspective, I don't look at nationality when I look for porn. I first look for attractive, sexy, and naughty women. To get straight to the point - If I think you'll look hot getting fucked, then I want you on this site (or others).

This forum has an odd bias against the USA for some reason (#NotEveryone).

SuperImp wrote:As an American, my preference for performers generally skews towards Europeans (Hungary being #1 I believe). That pretty much explains why I'm a current paying member here. However, I still like the American performers (and amateurs) as well. If anything, I'm probably 70-30 split or so. It pretty much depends on what mood I'm in. Also, the industries are quite different in terms of rawness and style still - which is definitely a great thing.

The hyperbole regarding LP bringing in talent from the west is unfounded. When you look at the sample, Europeans dominate this site today and will continue to do so going forward. This will always be LP's bread and butter, but it doesn't hurt to venture out to the other countries. It is just LP diversifying their portfolio. Plus, the earlier works (before becoming LP) had a few American performers as well.

Just from my personal perspective, I don't look at nationality when I look for porn. I first look for attractive, sexy, and naughty women. To get straight to the point - If I think you'll look hot getting fucked, then I want you on this site (or others).

This forum has an odd bias against the USA for some reason (#NotEveryone).

As I said multiple times here, I'm not aginst US girls, but I would like to see TOP stars from USA, the prettiest girls, not average. It would be really nice to get for e.g. Romi Rain, Kendra Lust, Ariella Ferrera or Luna Star. I agree with you nationality it's not imortant .

"This forum has an odd bias against the USA for some reason (#NotEveryone)." And vice versa some of users are too agressive and demand only US girls and are disrespectfull for other who have different opinion. I was called a racist becasue I prefer and like models in Slavic types more than latina ...

I am sorry, you are looking in the wrong place. LP is not looking for you as a customer. LP is now "mainstream" and a politically correct site, so please act accordingly. Buy what we offer, and do not complain.

guaguancogomez wrote:When you are at the top of one bussines which i believe is the case of LP at this moment, you start to believe that you are a genius and you can do what ever you want and be successful. I cant hardly understand why having young beautiful and willing to do anything (almost) europen young girls, they deceided to import women in the middle of their carrers to do "normal stuff". If people are buying and prefering this last movies instead of other ones with let me suppose (arwen gold, lita phoenix, dominica or kira thorn among many others) this means that Im out of the general preferences of the market. But, believe me, do not believe that succsess is here to stay just because you have been in the past.

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Kriss1986 wrote:
As I said multiple times here, I'm not aginst US girls, but I would like to see TOP stars from USA, the prettiest girls, not average. It would be really nice to get for e.g. Romi Rain, Kendra Lust, Ariella Ferrera or Luna Star. I agree with you nationality it's not imortant .

"This forum has an odd bias against the USA for some reason (#NotEveryone)." And vice versa some of users are too agressive and demand only US girls and are disrespectfull for other who have different opinion. I was called a racist becasue I prefer and like models in Slavic types more than latina ...

Your original post is fine. My reply was directed at the general tone of the forum. I wouldn't pay too much attention to those users calling you a racist - You'll get a lot of drive-by posts here that eventually lead no where and just random call outs. That or the ones that get upset fast because someone doesn't share their same interest (or lack thereof).

The beautiful Slavic's will remain dominant on this site. I doubt LP will ever go away from that formula, especially since they are based in CZ. As long as women continue to film adult content, we should be good. Although from what I've seen, it's not a healthy stream as it was in earlier years unfortunately. I think this applies all around to everyone.

SuperImp wrote:

Kriss1986 wrote:
As I said multiple times here, I'm not aginst US girls, but I would like to see TOP stars from USA, the prettiest girls, not average. It would be really nice to get for e.g. Romi Rain, Kendra Lust, Ariella Ferrera or Luna Star. I agree with you nationality it's not imortant .

"This forum has an odd bias against the USA for some reason (#NotEveryone)." And vice versa some of users are too agressive and demand only US girls and are disrespectfull for other who have different opinion. I was called a racist becasue I prefer and like models in Slavic types more than latina ...

Your original post is fine. My reply was directed at the general tone of the forum. I wouldn't pay too much attention to those users calling you a racist - You'll get a lot of drive-by posts here that eventually lead no where and just random call outs. That or the ones that get upset fast because someone doesn't share their same interest (or lack thereof).

The beautiful Slavic's will remain dominant on this site. I doubt LP will ever go away from that formula, especially since they are based in CZ. As long as women continue to film adult content, we should be good. Although from what I've seen, it's not a healthy stream as it was in earlier years unfortunately. I think this applies all around to everyone.

Economy based. The worse the economy the hotter and more motivated the girls, and vice versa.

SuperImp wrote:

Kriss1986 wrote:
As I said multiple times here, I'm not aginst US girls, but I would like to see TOP stars from USA, the prettiest girls, not average. It would be really nice to get for e.g. Romi Rain, Kendra Lust, Ariella Ferrera or Luna Star. I agree with you nationality it's not imortant .

"This forum has an odd bias against the USA for some reason (#NotEveryone)." And vice versa some of users are too agressive and demand only US girls and are disrespectfull for other who have different opinion. I was called a racist becasue I prefer and like models in Slavic types more than latina ...

Your original post is fine. My reply was directed at the general tone of the forum. I wouldn't pay too much attention to those users calling you a racist - You'll get a lot of drive-by posts here that eventually lead no where and just random call outs. That or the ones that get upset fast because someone doesn't share their same interest (or lack thereof).

The beautiful Slavic's will remain dominant on this site. I doubt LP will ever go away from that formula, especially since they are based in CZ. As long as women continue to film adult content, we should be good. Although from what I've seen, it's not a healthy stream as it was in earlier years unfortunately. I think this applies all around to everyone.

Thank you for understanding and I know that your post wasn't against me, so all is ok . On this board we have few trolls but we should left this and focus on main topic. Also I understand your point of view or at least I'm trying to do it. I'm 100% into Slavic beauties but also it would be nice to see some of TOP of US girls. What's your opinion about Romi Rain? I think at this moment she is the best of American stars, Romi is on TOP, has a great body, face of an angel and her skills are pro. I wish to see her in few great scenes for LP, first DAP that could be a something.

drevokocur66 wrote:I am sorry, you are looking in the wrong place. LP is not looking for you as a customer. LP is now "mainstream" and a politically correct site, so please act accordingly. Buy what we offer, and do not complain.

I agree - Mainstream and very boring!!!

Kriss1986 wrote:

SuperImp wrote:

Kriss1986 wrote:
As I said multiple times here, I'm not aginst US girls, but I would like to see TOP stars from USA, the prettiest girls, not average. It would be really nice to get for e.g. Romi Rain, Kendra Lust, Ariella Ferrera or Luna Star. I agree with you nationality it's not imortant .

"This forum has an odd bias against the USA for some reason (#NotEveryone)." And vice versa some of users are too agressive and demand only US girls and are disrespectfull for other who have different opinion. I was called a racist becasue I prefer and like models in Slavic types more than latina ...

Your original post is fine. My reply was directed at the general tone of the forum. I wouldn't pay too much attention to those users calling you a racist - You'll get a lot of drive-by posts here that eventually lead no where and just random call outs. That or the ones that get upset fast because someone doesn't share their same interest (or lack thereof).

The beautiful Slavic's will remain dominant on this site. I doubt LP will ever go away from that formula, especially since they are based in CZ. As long as women continue to film adult content, we should be good. Although from what I've seen, it's not a healthy stream as it was in earlier years unfortunately. I think this applies all around to everyone.

Thank you for understanding and I know that your post wasn't against me, so all is ok . On this board we have few trolls but we should left this and focus on main topic. Also I understand your point of view or at least I'm trying to do it. I'm 100% into Slavic beauties but also it would be nice to see some of TOP of US girls. What's your opinion about Romi Rain? I think at this moment she is the best of American stars, Romi is on TOP, has a great body, face of an angel and her skills are pro. I wish to see her in few great scenes for LP, first DAP that could be a something.

I'm happy that you like Romi Rain and post here that you want to see her at LP. It's fine that you think she's the prettiest and the best.
Perhaps her model thread is a good place to bring attention to her after this thread is finished?

Some other things have been said in this thread that I would argue against:

1. The current Americans at LP are "average" and "not the prettiest".
That's OK if presented as somebody's personal opinion of what they like, but it's not a fact. Everybody will have their own favourites.

2. Russian or European girls are "prettier".
Again it's opinion, not fact. American girls are mostly descended from Europeans. And there are pretty girls in every country.

3. European girls are "cheaper" and that's a good thing.
I bet those poor Asian girls some guy was spamming here recently get paid peanuts, if they're paid at all by their pimps. That's not a good thing.
What is good about the LP sales model is that scenes can be priced individually so if some girls charge more, then the ticket prices for their scenes can be adjusted and the customers can decide whether to pay the price. It's not a perfect system, but there is some flexibility, and it can allow the rates of pay for European and American models to move closer together over time as supply and demand balance out.

Slightly worried by what appears to be an obsession of Russian models with having those plastic duck lips. Facial surgery, particularly nosejobs seem to be creeping into the European scene too.

I'm happy that you like Romi Rain and post here that you want to see her at LP. It's fine that you think she's the prettiest and the best.
Perhaps her model thread is a good place to bring attention to her after this thread is finished?

Some other things have been said in this thread that I would argue against:

1. The current Americans at LP are "average" and "not the prettiest".
That's OK if presented as somebody's personal opinion of what they like, but it's not a fact. Everybody will have their own favourites.

2. Russian or European girls are "prettier".
Again it's opinion, not fact. American girls are mostly descended from Europeans. And there are pretty girls in every country.

3. European girls are "cheaper" and that's a good thing.
I bet those poor Asian girls some guy was spamming here recently get paid peanuts, if they're paid at all by their pimps. That's not a good thing.
What is good about the LP sales model is that scenes can be priced individually so if some girls charge more, then the ticket prices for their scenes can be adjusted and the customers can decide whether to pay the price. It's not a perfect system, but there is some flexibility, and it can allow the rates of pay for European and American models to move closer together over time as supply and demand balance out.

I like Romi very much, she is just awesome . Realy pretty lady with great body and awesome boobs . In her thread I wrote few posts but I wasn't sure if it will change something, anyway we can try ask for her and show that we are interested to see her at LP.

1. The current Americans at LP are "average" and "not the prettiest".
That's OK if presented as somebody's personal opinion of what they like, but it's not a fact. Everybody will have their own favourites.

Maybe I choosed wrong words. It was only my personal opinion. I think US as a whole, have a lot of prettier and better girls than those presented at this moment here. I hope it's more clear now.

2. Russian or European girls are "prettier".
Again it's opinion, not fact. American girls are mostly descended from Europeans. And there are pretty girls in every country.

Yes it's also opinion, we can of course argue and try present pics, etc. to proove which country have better girls but it's not a point. Personal I prefer Slavic type of beauty generally, but it doesn't mean that I'm not interested with other types of comeliness. As I said I really like Romi and few others.

3. European girls are "cheaper" and that's a good thing.
I bet those poor Asian girls some guy was spamming here recently get paid peanuts, if they're paid at all by their pimps. That's not a good thing.
What is good about the LP sales model is that scenes can be priced individually so if some girls charge more, then the ticket prices for their scenes can be adjusted and the customers can decide whether to pay the price. It's not a perfect system, but there is some flexibility, and it can allow the rates of pay for European and American models to move closer together over time as supply and demand balance out.

Ok maybe this statement wasn't the best argument from customers perspective . However it is a different when you can buy scene with good action where play European girl for e.g.3tkt and scene with action at the same level with American girl for 6tkt. Of course nobody will force us to pay high amount of tkts for scene, it's personal decision so I will live it and not argue .

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I recognize that european women are spectacular, but if you see the mexican sexy girls I'm sure your change of opinion... amazing videos!

Slavic girls are amazing, but sometimes US ones are great as well.